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scorpio

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Perpetually rotating wheel
« on: December 01, 2010, 08:42:41 PM »
Hi,

I was in Austria in the spring. I have seen this machine work in the Technical Museum of Vienna. I went there first in 2003. At the time, was there and it worked.

Here is a video from the machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHQ33OFljOg

and photos:
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TinselKoala

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 09:26:26 PM »
And here is a description of the device, with a picture of its builder, along with other perpetual motion machines that he has made.
Many science centers around the world have one of these machines. There's one in the Ontario Science Centre as well.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/art.htm
Scroll down to David "Dedalus" Jones, where you will see a picture of the above device at the Vienna Science Museum.
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scorpio

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 11:10:38 PM »
Yes, I read. But I have no idea how it works. Perhaps the night watchman change the batteries at night.  :)
...Or not...?
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TinselKoala

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 02:24:50 AM »
Quote from: scorpio on December 01, 2010, 11:10:38 PM
Yes, I read. But I have no idea how it works. Perhaps the night watchman change the batteries at night.  :)
...Or not...?

I've spent hours staring at the one in the Ontario Science Centre. I think it is one of the ones pictured on the link I gave, or a close relative. It's pretty cool. I think it's powered by compressed air that comes in via one of the transparent plastic support pieces and then is channeled up a hollow frame member. It would only take something like a small aquarium pump to keep it turning, and the pump could be located under the floor or even in a light fixture.
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derricka

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 08:45:04 AM »
Are you absolutely SURE about that TK?

Excerpt from "I, Fraudulous" by David "Daedalus" Jones:
"I complicated it with a number of cunning distractions, each designed to lead the scientific mind along one or other of several false trails."
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scorpio

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 10:13:10 AM »
The structure consists of a glass or acrylic sheet. Can be seen below. No tubes or wires do not go forth from the floor. The cabinet is completely transparent from all sides.
The wheel goes to the edge of a tube, but there are no paddles on the wheel to rotate in the air. Not hear any sound.
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FatChance!!!

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 12:12:47 PM »
This is not OU and based on the stirling effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
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nievesoliveras

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 02:49:44 PM »
I think that OU is already done. It is that its more profitable to let the people without it.

Jesus
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scorpio

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 05:09:34 PM »
Quote from: FatChance!!! on December 02, 2010, 12:12:47 PM
This is not OU and based on the stirling effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine

No, this is not Stirling engine because of the large gap between the piston and cylinder. How would the heat energy? The rotating wheel is needed to keep a few watts. This can not be achieved with air at room temperature.
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Paul-R

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 06:05:46 PM »
Quote from: derricka on December 02, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
Are you absolutely SURE about that TK?

Excerpt from "I, Fraudulous" by David "Daedalus" Jones:
"I complicated it with a number of cunning distractions, each designed to lead the scientific mind along one or other of several false trails."
Have you come across Daedelus' column in London's "New Scientist" magazxine?
He wrote some fabulous stuff up to the 80s or so. There is a book:
http://www.amazon.com/Inventions-Daedalus-Compendium-Plausible-Schemes/dp/0716714124/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291309436&sr=1-9
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Hugo Chavez

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 08:27:23 AM »
the inventor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf7czii7dH0

they are fake/ perpetual motion artworks.
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Omnibus

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 12:21:22 PM »
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Hugo Chavez

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 01:16:18 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on December 09, 2010, 12:21:22 PM
His are.
do continue... I'm listening...  do you have one that works?
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Low-Q

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2010, 12:14:29 AM »
What are the heatsinks for? There are one on each side of the motor. Inside there, a "needle" entering and exits. Stirling engine after all?

Vidar
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FatBird

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Re: Perpetually rotating wheel
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2010, 01:47:24 AM »
Thank you for posting the great photos & Video.
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