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Author Topic: ORBO Technology Now Available To (Technical) Public - Any takers for €399?  (Read 15356 times)

Offline AquariuZ

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Taken from http://www.steorn.com/skdb/oedu/

Orbo Evaluation and Development System

For electronics and electrical engineers and specialists in magnetics and physics

System Comprises

    * 12 month Developer License
    * 12 month SKDB Membership
    * 1 Orbo Evaluation and Development Unit (OEDU)
    * 1 USB memory stick with test data

Orbo Evaluation and Development Unit will be shipped within 28 days of purchase
OEDU Features and Applications

    * Evaluate the core principle of Orbo Technology, which is that a time-variant magnetic interaction leads to a non-conservative energy result
    * Modify key parameters that adjust performance and efficiency
    * Prototype and develop products driven by Orbo Technology

Orbo Technology Developer License and SKDB Membership

    * Access the SKDB and its e-Learning modules to learn about Orbo and how to use it
    * Learn how Orbo technology works and how to build devices
    * Typically for electrical and electronic engineers, research and development teams, and specialists in magnetics and physics
    * Collaborate online and establish multi-disciplined research teams
    * Commercialisation requires separate license
    * Annual License and Membership

Download the brochure http://www.steorn.com/images/orbo-evaluation-and-development-unit-brochure.pdf

OEDU Support in the SKDB

    * User manual
    * Bill of materials
    * Board layout
    * Data analysis support
    * Optimisation support

Required Equipment and Skills

    * Proficiency in the use of a digital oscilloscope and associated data capture and analysis
    * Access to a 4 channel digital oscilloscope with a minimum bandwidth of 200MHz, minimum record length of 100,000 data points per channel and the ability to export the raw data
    * Two Passive Probes with a minimum bandwidth of 200MHz
    * One Differential Probe with a minimum bandwidth of 200MHz
    * One Current Probe with a minimum bandwidth of 200MHz
    * Access to Microsoft Excel 2010
    * Electrical measurement skills
    * Experimental data analysis skills

Please note the requirements.

AZ

PS: On the homepage there are now three engineers who claim to have measured 300% overunity.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HKTYrVjEGY

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Offline happyfunball

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So sick of the Steorn con.

Offline AquariuZ

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So sick of the Steorn con.

Easy enough to verify now I´d say.

Appearantly you get a solid-state setup to test for yourself.

AZ

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Easy enough to verify now I´d say.

Appearantly you get a solid-state setup to test for yourself.

AZ

Easy perhaps? Perhaps not.

Check out the equipment requirements. The 200MHz diff. and current probes are most likely out of reach by the majority. It's now easy for Steorn to say something like: "We're sorry you were not able to achieve COP>1 as we have, but you were not using the required equipment to make the measurements."

And to a certain degree, they would be correct. However, the question that still remains, at least in my mind is, has Steorn etc. really made accurate measurements, and is their test setup conducive to such?

We'll only know the answer to that if and when the information is publicly revealed.

.99

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PS: On the homepage there are now three engineers who claim to have measured 300% overunity.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HKTYrVjEGY

ROFLMAO  :D :D :D :D

Oh yeh...soooooo much overunity they can't even run a red LED load and the device itself unless a battery remains attached.  Still drains batteries but umm...OU?? 

Steorn is a pathetic little con.

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Easy perhaps? Perhaps not.

Check out the equipment requirements. The 200MHz diff. and current probes are most likely out of reach by the majority. It's now easy for Steorn to say something like: "We're sorry you were not able to achieve COP>1 as we have, but you were not using the required equipment to make the measurements."

And to a certain degree, they would be correct. However, the question that still remains, at least in my mind is, has Steorn etc. really made accurate measurements, and is their test setup conducive to such?

We'll only know the answer to that if and when the information is publicly revealed.

.99

I hear what you are saying and must agree. What I am really hoping is that someone in here is equipped and willing to risk some money on this and start a thread.

This is as public as it gets, they are sticking their necks out with this one.

Think of it this way: If a serious lab would take this offer on and not be able to reproduce it they would quickly stop selling these "kits" when that same lab would start crying "fraud". That would be the end of Steorn.

Just wanted to make the members aware of the fact that it now can be tested if so desired, pity I do not meet the requirements (at all) or else I would most definitly test it myself.

AZ

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ROFLMAO  :D :D :D :D

Oh yeh...soooooo much overunity they can't even run a red LED load and the device itself unless a battery remains attached.  Still drains batteries but umm...OU?? 

Steorn is a pathetic little con.

E-Goose

So why would three engineers with verifiable backgrounds lie on camera?

Did they measure wrong? Where they tricked by Steorn? Risking their reputations over a stunt like this?

Things to contemplate...

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I hear what you are saying and must agree. What I am really hoping is that someone in here is equipped and willing to risk some money on this and start a thread.

This is as public as it gets, they are sticking their necks out with this one.

Think of it this way: If a serious lab would take this offer on and not be able to reproduce it they would quickly stop selling these "kits" when that same lab would start crying "fraud". That would be the end of Steorn.

Just wanted to make the members aware of the fact that it now can be tested if so desired, pity I do not meet the requirements (at all) or else I would most definitly test it myself.

AZ

I would buy the kit etc. if they would rip up my NDA should I be able to clearly and irrefutably demonstrate the device is COP<1.

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I would buy the kit etc. if they would rip up my NDA should I be able to clearly and irrefutably demonstrate the device is COP<1.

.99

I´m not sure a NDA is required? 

Maybe for the online SDK membership, would make sense.

But image COP>1 ....on your own workbench...

Lol. Trying to wet appetite.  8)

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I´m not sure a NDA is required? 

Maybe for the online SDK membership, would make sense.

But image COP>1 ....on your own workbench...

Lol. Trying to wet appetite.  8)

I am fairly certain it is required.  ;)

Perhaps some enterprising individual could propose this idea to Stefan:

Use some of the overunity prize money to buy one kit etc., and select one qualified individual from this forum to receive it and perform the testing? Of course they would also have to sign the NDA, so that disqualifies me.

.99

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Stefan, what do you think of all this?

If you applied for a kit would they give you one?

You are probably well known to them by now...  ;D

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So why would three engineers with verifiable backgrounds lie on camera?

Did they measure wrong? Where they tricked by Steorn? Risking their reputations over a stunt like this?

Things to contemplate...

AZ

Listen very carefully because what I have to say will make your life simpler.

Actually those things what you stated for me are not worth contemplating...WHY?  ...because people say things and I cannot read minds or intentions of folk....this is for God to deal with.  What I deal with is COLD HARD FACT.  Everything else is just blah blah blah and a whole lot ego stroking.

You asked "why these men risk reputation??"  Look, I could tell you that MAYBE they have been bought out or that they are gullible or that they are just plain incompetent and didnt read the instruments correct BUT FACT #1 is that I dont know these 3 men so I can't say and FACT #2 is that it really doesnt matter.  Think of this though....why do LEGITIMATE very reputable doctors and scientists go on the stand as expert witnesses (in law courts) and 'sell out' for either defense or prosecutor??  Both the defense and prosecution expert cannot be correct!  It's all a matter of where your principles lie and where you will put your 'white and black lines' (truth and false).  Sadly for many in this world it is all shades of grey.  HOWEVER as I said...this is all subjective, I dont care what these 3 men said...I dont know them...so I look to the facts.  So...we ask...what are the facts??

Fact#1 - Steorn has claimed OU (now twice...one with E-Orbo which is mysteriously shelved and now solid state)
Fact#2 - Steorn has repeatedly promised public OU (with load) demonstrations, virtually ALL have been cancelled at the last minute for some lame excuse and the few public demos have only ever been accompanied by science type Power Point presentations with graphs of 'supposed proof' LOL.  Graphs my dear....are NOT...I repeat NOT proof!!
Fact#3 - With the thousands of replicators Earthwide...NOBODY can run a load and even recharge a battery with this Steorn trash let alone take the battery off and have it run itself.  IF IT WERE TRUE OU, you would have ample power to fill caps on the front end.  I have seen true OU and when you do, there is no doubt, the circuit literally starts choking on the excess.

Those few facts alone are enough for me.  I conducted my own tests and didnt have to get ripped 400 quid to see what a sham this guy is riding.  It's not so much that he isn't on the right path, it's that he actually doesnt understand it at all and rather than taking the high road of continued hard work, he has decided to say "this is it folks!! and sell something that is only a very tiny part of the equation which is essentially useless by itself.

Anyway...you believe what you want.  You have been warned.

E-Goose

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Show me a single functioning 'Orbo' device powering anything. You can't, it doesn't exist. Four years later. The end.

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Listen very carefully because what I have to say will make your life simpler.

Actually those things what you stated for me are not worth contemplating...WHY?  ...because people say things and I cannot read minds or intentions of folk....this is for God to deal with.  What I deal with is COLD HARD FACT.  Everything else is just blah blah blah and a whole lot ego stroking.

You asked "why these men risk reputation??"  Look, I could tell you that MAYBE they have been bought out or that they are gullible or that they are just plain incompetent and didnt read the instruments correct BUT FACT #1 is that I dont know these 3 men so I can't say and FACT #2 is that it really doesnt matter.  Think of this though....why do LEGITIMATE very reputable doctors and scientists go on the stand as expert witnesses (in law courts) and 'sell out' for either defense or prosecutor??  Both the defense and prosecution expert cannot be correct!  It's all a matter of where your principles lie and where you will put your 'white and black lines' (truth and false).  Sadly for many in this world it is all shades of grey.  HOWEVER as I said...this is all subjective, I dont care what these 3 men said...I dont know them...so I look to the facts.  So...we ask...what are the facts??

Fact#1 - Steorn has claimed OU (now twice...one with E-Orbo which is mysteriously shelved and now solid state)
Fact#2 - Steorn has repeatedly promised public OU (with load) demonstrations, virtually ALL have been cancelled at the last minute for some lame excuse and the few public demos have only ever been accompanied by science type Power Point presentations with graphs of 'supposed proof' LOL.  Graphs my dear....are NOT...I repeat NOT proof!!
Fact#3 - With the thousands of replicators Earthwide...NOBODY can run a load and even recharge a battery with this Steorn trash let alone take the battery off and have it run itself.  IF IT WERE TRUE OU, you would have ample power to fill caps on the front end.  I have seen true OU and when you do, there is no doubt, the circuit literally starts choking on the excess.

Those few facts alone are enough for me.  I conducted my own tests and didnt have to get ripped 400 quid to see what a sham this guy is riding.  It's not so much that he isn't on the right path, it's that he actually doesnt understand it at all and rather than taking the high road of continued hard work, he has decided to say "this is it folks!! and sell something that is only a very tiny part of the equation which is essentially useless by itself.

Anyway...you believe what you want.  You have been warned.

E-Goose

The above text shows you don't know what you're talking about so you shouldn't ask people to listen to you.

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I'm very much in favor of Stefan or someone else giving money to provide @poynt99 with the proper equipment to test Steorn claim (I'd add to that also @Omega_0 who was the first to confirm independently Steorn's results), provided Steorn drop their NDA requirement. I'd like, however, to know if such testing is at all possible with even the highest end equipment available. Some of you probably remember the problems I encountered in the Summer when trying to find someone in most reputable universities to measure power input and output of, say, transformers. What I found with astonishment was that no one would touch such measurements with a ten foot pole and when it comes to teaching the students about power balances they do it only with theoretical models, never demonstrating it with proper labs. Many probably remember the intrinsic problems in data processing I encountered during these studies, problems unresolved to this day. These are inherent problems in the very integration procedures and so on because of the digital nature of the signal obtained. Furthermore, I found out that, experiments notwithstanding, there is an inherent possibility for overunity in the very standard theory of electricity -- due to natural asymmetries it turned out that excess energy can be produced thanks to the saving from the input.

 

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