Are there any suggestions as to the SPACING of these magnets along a five degree V-ramp?


Scorch.


PS: OU web form still double spacing everything as I use GOOGLE CHROME.

Hi dear Scorch,
I can only recommend you go with us with this drawing logic http://www.sendspace.com/file/f6fosn
Magnets are arrived and  we had start to read them.Our works started!
http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/1112/21/b3f54aefa1ec.jpg

You are asking the most good question when asking about the gap between magnets.
So, our conclusions are the following in this issue:
-gap shall not be less than 2.3mm and no more 3mm when you are using 10mmx5m Neo magnets
Why it is good question - you need to read your own magnets pole force outlines by the magnet viewer as I had show on video below and some pics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ILhuvs_TI
http://i026.radikal.ru/1112/8f/1cfbaa1b320c.jpg
 http://s017.radikal.ru/i413/1112/1b/7eaf2f3cfefc.jpg
 http://i058.radikal.ru/1112/8a/379666c2b063.jpg
 

Why you need to read - pole force outlines shall become almost a straight line with just a little "wow" as digit 8. As much outline are straight and do not have "wow" that much V-track will be more powerfull, but here we have warring - do put magnets more close than 2.3mm because huge magnet force degradation will come soon.in gap 3mm it is will lost its magnetic force in 1 year about on 7-10%.Every 1mm additional in gap prolonging the life of magnets on about 2-3% after 2.3mm but you are loosing moment of rotor by increasing of that gap.

To show what I mean by "wow"( sorry for that crazy word, I dont know other to explane in english) , and how outlines of fields are becoming almost straight when you are using neo magnet by mentioned dimensions and gap - hope you can take my (our) advise Sir!

Our news in project progress now already will come soon!


Truly
Rob

Interesting, I also thought about arranging magnets in phi distances etc., but didn't try many experiments. Magnets are a bitch somehow... but maybe there is a way to make permanent magnet motors work with phi maths as a base.

just a little info update  A note from Howard R.Johnson about V-gate
Iput on comments torrent file to download full movie(670mb)
it has russian translation of movie,sorry
truly
rob

Hi guys, we made Howard R.Jonson patent 5.402.021 gate magnets not full and rough setup and have got this, shown below picture. Amazing field structure, now we have to think how to use sinwave form magnets fields at the gate and rotor.This investigation will go in parallel with general V-gate one as far we never saw such fields before and nobody here told us about such nice picture. Here we are a bit pity because we are starting to think that you are covering very valuable info.

Guess nobody here who are reading this topic want and need to see us successive in this magnet rotor project. If this is true we will stop supply further info to you guys, sorry. We are waiting your help if you know how to use sinwave magnet fields to get rotor running.

Is there anybody here that can explane why Howard R.Jonson gate not provided or explained us as better solution to construct magnet rotor ?
 
http://s61.radikal.ru/i172/1201/82/7c6064b2b32a.gif   - view part of magnet setup from patent

http://s017.radikal.ru/i434/1201/81/af9fb17a8a4f.jpg  - our ruff setup of megnets  based on patent drawing

http://s017.radikal.ru/i442/1201/1c/6040280a5eac.jpg - magnet fields structure

Truly
Rob
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P.S. see our new flat V-gate that can take 1kg load
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDM60mY4vlA
There are only 20 magnets 6x6x15mm neo magnets and general old HDD magnet because it has very interesting to us pole structure.
New gate has approximation of number of magnets.We learn how to reduce magnets, make larger gap between them and do not lose cinetic energy from gate.
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i do you know what size of magnets he used

i´m trying to build on

PLEASE : i nead my answer as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you

Hi hund4444
Welcome on board and Merry Christmas!

First of all I recommend you to read pages from 34 up to this one.http://www.overunity.com/10034/new-permanent-magnet-motor-on-youtube-from-roobert33/510/


If you will still be agree after examinations of such huge forum topic info  to construct this motor then take my drawings in Cad DXF format and try to construct.http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzamud It is revers engineering result of video and in scale 1:1.Based on this drawing rotor magnets have 1/2x1/2x1/2 size.64pcs and also it has 1 bar magnet... and one bottom magnets. Up to now I am trying such magnet size and did not get relevant result!.

If you have budjet about $300 and a bit more for this rotor parts and can wait about 12 days then go to this shop and buy magnets or find our your self relevant on line other shops for good Neo magnets.http://apexmagnets.com/?gclid=CP2Ohs_f96sCFcyHDgod2whdYw

To spent money you have to be sure what you are doing, so, if all this warnings did not stop you then you know what you are doing - wish you good start and good finish in this grate project Sir.

Why all this was written info to you ? because up to know from October 30 2011 we are trying to get good results and only pass the half way of it. Probably you will be more lucky than we are!.

Truly
Rob

the video's and pictures dont describe the gate or show it.. i am curious as to the arrangement of the gate.
and where can one get the fluxx paper at a decent price?

If understood you correct about "fluxx paper" then they are here:
http://apexmagnets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=6
http://apexmagnets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=211
What description format of V-gate you want to see Sir?
Guess you are not able to open/use  DXF format,pity..
Tell me your format, I will prepare file format what ever you need.Just explain what you need to see in detail description of V-gate.

Truly
Rob
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Hi guys, I have got video block from YT administration of this motor video replication and what is the most strange I have got blocked video of my own magnet degradation tool experiment that was started in Oct 27 for 1 year.
I took new video with fresh results regarding the demonstration tool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLj7tjGqTCE
Here the evidence screen shot that YT blocking V-gate motors videos
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5c/975970d2934c.jpg
Here the explanation that I have got from YT after video blocking
Regarding V-gate Rooberto 33 video :Информация о Вашем аккаунте MrArrow1961Участники сообщества YouTube отметили одно или несколько из ваших видео как неприемлемые. Отмеченные видео проверяются командой YouTube на предмет нарушения принципов сообщества. После рассмотрения следующих видео мы пришли к выводу, что в них содержатся материалы, нарушающие наши принципы. Список отключенных видео:Магнитный мотор на  неодимовых 64   3 магнитахПодробную информацию о принципах сообщества YouTube и их соблюдении можно узнать в справочном центре: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486.С уважением,Коллектив YouTube

Regarding my own tool video notification:
Информация о Вашем аккаунте MrArrow1961
Участники сообщества YouTube отметили одно или несколько из ваших видео как неприемлемые. Отмеченные видео проверяются командой YouTube на предмет нарушения принципов сообщества. После рассмотрения следующих видео мы пришли к выводу, что в них содержатся материалы, нарушающие наши принципы. Список отключенных видео:
Инструмент для срав. измерения деградации магнитовПодробную информацию о принципах сообщества YouTube и их соблюдении можно узнать в справочном центре: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486.
С уважением,Коллектив YouTube

Guess Google getting crazy! I will try by my all power of telecom guy to find the person who stop this videos as far as Google has their servers at our Data Center  and we have formal relations with its administration.
I will keep you informed what is going on with google.
If someone from this forum know exactly and formally what is going on then you are kindly asked to explane the real reason - why this videos was blocked?
I will find the true in any way as Telecom guy the man who was done it. But first I want to know this forum community confession, declaration as far as only place where video share was here!

Dear Stefan, you have here not good guys I think, please start works with filtration of such crazy users!!!
I will do my best!Some one going to play games with real fire here, I will fnd the Man! Keep going guys! Do your next moves!

Stefan, sorry we are stopping our team participiation in this forum - not secure place!

Regards & Truly
Rob
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Hi guys. I've read through most of this thread, and I still can't tell if this thing is real or not. Has anyone successfully duplicated this wheel?

If it really works I assume something is being withheld about it's construction. I'm pretty sure the bottom magnet isn't attraction, it has to be repulsion.

I agree the magnets appear to be 1/2" x 1/2". I don't believe they're just iron. The wheel is 4"x 6". The bar is attracting. There has to be more than that going on though.