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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #555 on: November 08, 2011, 09:46:52 PM »
And in that short, telephone, conversation I heard him say (hearsay) the following:
#1 He was involved with invention and construction of this motor.
#2 The ferrite rods were nickel plated merely for appearance.
#3 He sold the design. (to an Italian???)
#4 He is under contract which includes a non-disclosure agreement regarding the design specifics.

I informed him that I have a fair understanding of contract law and that I respect his non-disclosure agreement and I did not ask him anymore questions.
The conversation was about about 3 minutes long and I have no intention of bothering him anymore on this subject.

Now everything is clear for me about roobert33 oh my godness Rob, if you read this - Sorry that I had hack your motor. Modeling from non exsiting drawings based on pictures is my passion, sorry again, I did not know that you buy it, but I cant get  back DXF files from internet. I guess you lost motor potential interest, sorry.It is already here, sorry.
I was very angry that did not find it in internet as already open source staff and made reveres engineering works to create its physical dimension that explain all if we are good in magnet physics and calculations...

« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 10:32:51 PM by Arrow »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #556 on: November 08, 2011, 10:00:39 PM »
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Rob, you are logged, I can see, so, we shall forget about new 10min video?
Short and my last question here to you:
Then(it depended from your answer) I will or not will open next details about your motor that you are holding so taff,
I swear, I cant understand you. Motor by this video is compromised to get patent, why you are holding info down, explain it 1 time and I will stop my info about your motor here?

You are playing now not from your team Rob because by your silence about my provided DXF files you are proving its right scale. Do you understand me?

Truly
Rob
Есть русская пословица - молчание знак согласия - There is a Russian proverb - silence means consent... guess you hate me already... sorry
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« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 10:30:34 PM by Arrow »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #557 on: November 08, 2011, 11:04:15 PM »
Maybe I have not explained me well ...
In the previous comment I wrote that I made a copy of the first V-gate in two days.
It understands very well that this my new V-gate is not the original one, even a child would understand.
The first V-gate I have sold it to a person long ago, as a way of mechanical beauty and I couldn't do the photos to it, in addition I can't  make a new video with the breath of the air that turns the toy, I would be certainly bombarded by criticism of YT users.

However, I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone, if so, it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium ...
And you think, I would be now here at the Forum to waste time arguing about it?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #558 on: November 08, 2011, 11:31:13 PM »
Maybe I have not explained me well ...
In the previous comment I wrote that I made a copy of the first V-gate in two days.
It understands very well that this my new V-gate is not the original one, even a child would understand.
The first V-gate I have sold it to a person long ago, as a way of mechanical beauty and I couldn't do the photos to it, in addition I can't  make a new video with the breath of the air that turns the toy, I would be certainly bombarded by criticism of YT users.

However, I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone, if so, it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium ...
And you think, I would be now here at the Forum to waste time arguing about it?

:) <it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium> ...:))))))))

Rob you are thinking now like most of the young Russian guys:) I am glad that you had sold out sensational discovery of the millennium  and I did not harm you with my scaled drawings of it from video - YOU BLESSED!
Now about perpetual motion:
Magnets that working on the rotor charged by human by using electricity and they have natural degradation in calm way N to S pole 1% for 10 years and 7-10% degradation if they will work N pole to N pole
Such type of work of magnets like N to N or S to S produce kinetic energy from metal magnetism that they are charged by human  with power consumption. So that power going to be degredate in 5 years but about 5 years it will run non stop if we will solve mechanical problems of cam axis, ball bearings etc

So, where we have perpetual motion? What can be forever under the SUN Sir?:)Nothing!!!
Next time dont sold such important things without doing marketing of its price!Please:)

So, please count that you sold out my future souvenir structure to Punk and that device will come back to Italia as mass product with E-bay  service and your customer will get crazy to see that they are many! I am sure he can not even evaluate it technically to reproduce:)))))))
But life reproductive. Nobody can stop it  accept nuclear war on the planet or huge comet attacks…that will destroy our planet to pieces.

 OK  You will see soon my gate running, I will give you opportunity to sold next nice motor to you clients:)))))) Grate positive move from me to you don’t you even if you said to me NO? OK:)

Have a nice day, good night guys! I have got now more or less true answer:) completely satisfied, because I understood how Europe guys thinking when they have real discovery of the millennium:))))) Crazy to understand such things but this is already facts!

MY GRATE THANKS TO ALL ROBERT'S names THAT MADE THAT discovery of the millennium and sold it without thinking about general people:)

now as fas as all things are clear I want to help you to evaluate your mistakes in pics that you show US:))

1. magnets - not the same shape and not such shiny like in video:)
2. rotor axi - in real one its screw - here simple rod - guess aluminum:)
3. rotor axi has nuts to support camshaft in pics they are absent:)
4. rotor brass in original one more narrow than in this pics:)
5. camshaft - very unique shape in original - here we can see toy, sorry:) "half moon" shape can not work like cam shaft. Camshaft cut fresh, do not polished, do not have prints on it of sliding works...:)
6. in original video we can see some kind of brass or magnet color support for spring - here in this pics support is diff. by its height and diametr:)
7. in original video spring more wide and from thin metal - here just toy without calculations:)
8. round support of motor is solid one - here we have hole in the center:)
9. top magnet supporting wood bar thin in original - here we have thick one :)
10. right side black pipe to drive "Г" shape wooden bar changed - this will never work - too much friction metal to metal, too much area coming together:)
11. ball bearing central ring in original small as 10-11mm here we have much more bigger.:)
12 side wooden supports are completely different from original one.:)
13. brass rotor balancer on ply not at the right side in pics, you glue ply not from correct side:)
14. magnet below - not double one but I think from very specific print on brasspart supports that magnet - you took it from real one
it was under the sliding and has print on it,you did not made second same part:)
15. all gaps between magnets in original motor less than in pics:)
16. the line where 4 magnets in line - line not the same like in original (important V-gate thing compomized in pics creator of toy was in harry:)))))))
NICE TOY IT WAS:)

Come to my YT and see if someone risking to say 1 bad word about your sold motor. Am I God or DEVIL? They are scare of me?:)))))))))))))
No Sir! I just explane all in Russian and everybody educated or not stops thinging that this is perpetual motion motor.
If some one will say there that is perpetual motion motor then I will smash that person in 1 sec with all my power of knowledge and connections to
science! I have only positive reaction there Sir, Why you sold it out nobody knows - only you! If you get 1 good JEEP car price for it then I am glad and in the same time very sad of you because your new JEEP or new house will vanish in time under the SUN!But you lost your name on the stones of Earth!

<I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone,>
WOW! You sold not working V-gate rotor ?:)
OK Rob as you said, as you said Sir, I believe that you can find there damm idiots, grate form you:) You earn free and easy money!
I am very proud that I know you!

Regards
Rob
Классно выкрутился молодец! Вы не шахматист!
« Last Edit: November 09, 2011, 01:34:42 AM by Arrow »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #559 on: November 13, 2011, 01:22:32 AM »
Its merely a question.
He, Robert Calloway, told me he sold the design but did not elaborate.
So I asked, in parentheses, to this general audience; "To an Italian???"

It's all very mysterious and roobert33's accusation that people at PESN are lying; still remains.

One thing I think I know; the original video came from youtube user "roobert33"
And a roobert33 DOES have a youtube account that was created in late 2008.
And the lab in his OTHER videos appears to be the same lab as the recent photos he attached here.
And the hands, in both the original video and his recent pictures, are VERY similar.

So, in my opinion, roobert33 has established a certain level of credibility to his claim that he was involved.
As far as whether, or not, such a device is possible? Or the effects in the original video can be duplicated by ANY means?
This remains yet to be seen.

I would love for roobert33 to make another attempt to just duplicate the pose of his hand as it is in the original video (like it is in your cad file).
I am not sure; but I think I see a similar "light area" scar behind the thumb.

roobert33 does not need to go through all that trouble to prove the device can be faked.
I did not, and do not, dispute the device can be faked. In fact I am not trying to take any position at all.

But a photo of his hand that can be MATCHED with the original video hand would certainly add even more credibility to his claim that PESN information is false.
And that he was involved with the original invention and video.

Is perpetual motion possible?
Doesn't this depend on your definition of perpetual motion?
If you claim the orbits of electrons in atoms, and the orbits of bodies in a solar system are slowly decaying, over billions of years, then NO, perpetual motion is NOT possible.

If you claim perpetual motion only has to last AS LONG as the orbits of electrons in atoms, then YES, perpetual motion IS possible and it is being DEMONSTRATED, every day, in the form of electron orbits in atoms.

Just REMEMBER, what does electricity DO inside a conventional motor?
It merely creates a MAGNETIC FIELD of FORCE.

Do we need a flow of electricity to have a very STRONG magnetic field of force?
Does the existence of a neodymium permanent magnet answer this question?

Have you seen a demonstration of Ed Leedskalnin's magnetic holder?

This is a simple device that continues to maintain a magnetic FORCE after electricity is REMOVED.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwws-LlBGNU

If a strong magnetic force remains, after it's source of ENERGY is removed, what do you call IT?

If a conventional electric motor merely uses switched, or alternating, magnetic forces to operate, is it possible to build a motor that uses some OTHER means, besides electricity, to switch, alternate, or GATE the magnetic forces?

As far as this replication is concerned; I still need to do more fabrication.
I have not done anything since throwing together, in one afternoon, what you see in my pictures.

Next in line, for me, is to map out the V-Gate on a paper stencil that can be transferred to my aluminum rotor.
I also plan to fabricate a brass rocker and still looking for additional materials to accomplish this.

That is all for now.

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Dear Scorch I did not understand this #3 He sold the design. (to an Italian???)
can you explane it?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #560 on: November 13, 2011, 10:17:18 AM »
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Maybe I have not explained me well ...
In the previous comment I wrote that I made a copy of the first V-gate in two days.
It understands very well that this my new V-gate is not the original one, even a child would understand.
The first V-gate I have sold it to a person long ago, as a way of mechanical beauty and I couldn't do the photos to it, in addition I can't  make a new video with the breath of the air that turns the toy, I would be certainly bombarded by criticism of YT users.

However, I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone, if so, it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium ...
And you think, I would be now here at the Forum to waste time arguing about it?



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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #561 on: November 13, 2011, 11:03:48 AM »

Next in line, for me, is to map out the V-Gate on a paper stencil that can be transferred to my aluminum rotor.
I also plan to fabricate a brass rocker and still looking for additional materials to accomplish this.

That is all for now.

}:>
Dear Scorch, thanks for your comments and video, if someone need to read about this video go  and read this - http://www.scribd.com/doc/242432/Ed-Leedskalnin-Magnetic-Current-Illustrated

I am not already focused on sold things like this motor on video etc "basta".We are loosing time with all these long explanations because perpetual motion is NOT possible. If people still can "see" it then they have to study phisics better to find out  the real things why they can see  such  behaviour from physical things. If study phisics not brings result - it means we still need to develop fundamental phisics to understand things better and deeper. Actually, Man has to be not smart and/or intelegant to claim such patents from officials if "it" is not supported by fundamental phisics.

Simple and short advise to anyone here to protect their new inventions - find relevant fundamental phisics words to explane your inventions and protect yourself and your inventions.Dont try to elevate the Earth mass to your shoulder - just do your best for people with new inventions, start trust to your eyes and knowledge  to trust people. Start allocate money to put your inventions into mass production if you trust to things that you can see as working cakes of sweet:) Avoid all crazy words about free energy and God will open mind of mass people to accept your inventions.Up to now nobody in the world knows exactly why planes are flying.
There are billions of pages and innovations about aerodynamics, but when you want to construct new airplane by its structure all fundamental guys asking 1 thing - construct, fly, if everything will go OK then we will support you and find relevant words for your invention with million pages of base even if it is argue with aerodynamics rules:)... good prove of my words is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONIsc1zRWpA

See also NASA new concept below - it is now already flying in my apartment in small scale:) Do I need to know exactly why it is flying? No! Dose anybody need to write million pages to explane it's flight? It is fling good and I dont care else:) I am just creating staff and giving to relevant guys as the gift!If they will to share money from new OK, if not, I will live further with my new inventions... I will change guys who took my new and did not pay to me - no problem, I am able to earn money from air because I have friends, good friends:) Patents are sucks...sick and tired of that papers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPgAdHPWoU


Nothing is free in our space and galatics guys because there was 1-st big boom that starts all in our universe and universe itself and it is the only overunity energy! If some one not agree with unic universe and God overunity - go and kill yourself to find God "secrects" and make your own univers:) I dont care personally.... I am not able and dont have such wish to argue with God if you are Gods here!You are too big as sky to see you personally and talk to argue:)

Stop using empty words - words are weapon to make our life better!
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I want to be helpfull to you in fabrication works and deduct all those many words here to get our own result:)
So dear Scorch, to help you go forward faster with drawings mapping - here below I upload video of one Russian RC champ - very easy technology, that show how we are putting laser toner lines from paper to metal or wood to make RC plane models, I guess there is no matter where it can be used It is really good mapping technology of scaled drawings even to metal for further fabrications in  1:1 scale. You need aceton and mirror laser prints on paper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwxKE63QkMI

Thank you for your communication with me.I really appreciate it!!!

Truly
Rob
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 03:47:27 PM by Arrow »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #562 on: November 13, 2011, 11:08:17 AM »
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Dear wings, please, explane your emotions Sir?:)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #563 on: November 13, 2011, 06:47:44 PM »
I love this channel guys and want to share it with you to show how nice our Earth from space by on line video cam from MIR space station and why we have to keep her happy with our works and life style.
Also see comments in my YT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZMWeSGfV8
link to Johnson Space Center on line space video cam. copy and paste to your browser.
mms://a1709.l1856953708.c18569.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1709/18569/v0001/reflecto­r:53708

Truly,
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #564 on: November 13, 2011, 07:15:42 PM »
I do have hard copies of Ed's books on my shelf as well as the Passels Information Network book, about Ed, titled: "How to read his writings".

I actually have no concern; when the current state of physics says: "Perpetual motion is impossible".
Just as I have no concern; when the current state of physics (of the PAST) says: "Heavier than air, powered, flight is impossible".

None of these things are relevant if I can still tap into the forces of the universe and build a device that gives the APPEARANCE of 'perpetual motion'.

Just because I, and physics, can't explain how Ed built, and lighted, his castle doesn't mean he didn't do it.

You are correct in stating there is no reason to continue such a philosophical discussion. If the orbits of planets, for billions of years, is not considered to be 'perpetual motion' then whats the point of discussing any farther?

On the other hand, Ed could still tap into whatever energy keeps the planets in orbit, and use this energy to levitate, and perfectly balance, 30 ton blocks of coral and also keep his generator spinning.

So WHAT is IT?

If we can't call it "perpetual motion" then lets just called it: "Unexplained Continuous Motion". (Explanation to come at a later date when science finally catches up to what Ed (and the Wright brothers) accomplished. :)

Thank you for your advice on transferring an image but I am planning a simpler approach.

This device gives me the impression that it really should be a demonstration TOY that anybody can build. Therefore my goal is to try and keep it as simple as possible. This way, if it actually works, anybody else can throw one together and pass on the knowledge.

My plan to "map it out" is to use nothing more than a piece of paper, the width and length of the rotor surface, a ruler, and a little basic math.

Simply based on how many ferrites will fit into a V-Shape pattern with spacing somewhere around half the diameter of the ferrites. It simply needs to look good, and symmetrical, and hopefully replicate whats in the original video.

Once this is drawn on paper, using my pen, I will make a hole for the position of each ferrite. Then simply lay the paper on the rotor and use my pen to place a marks on the rotor. Then I can attach ferrites.

This is all accomplished by 'dead reckoning' with no complicated math or fancy engineering procedures.
A picture, in my mind, I then build with my hands.

Just like your video of the unusual aircraft that doesn't look like it will fly.
All I need to know is that I can create an airfoil shape by simply attaching a board, and all the wiring, on top of a totally flat wing. Doesn't matter if its aerodynamically efficient as long as I create a low pressure differential on top of the wing and build a relatively balanced aircraft. And even balance is not super critical because control surfaces can compensate to a certain extent. Therefore pigs, and lawnmowers, can fly! :)

And, in the case of this device, all I need to know is that a V-Shape concentrates magnetic force. Which has been in front of my face all my life. Try picking up some nails with a magnet. Ever wonder WHY they always "stick" the strongest at the POINTS of the nails instead of the heads where there is actually more, ferrous, mass?

I see you have added a copy of that video, I showed you the other day, to your youtube page. Glad to see it because, sometimes, these videos disappear and I probably should do the same at my own youtube page.

This video is just another great demonstration of the V-Gate effect.
Just like the V-Gate tracks and cars that many have replicated, it simply uses a series V shaped, ferrous, pieces configured as four, separate, and staggered tracks resulting in a continuous motion as four magnets continuously attract each track of V-gates as they come around.
And it was built using common stuff including a 4" PVC pipe union, CD, CD drive bearing, ceramic magnets and what I assume is just soft iron, V-Shaped, pieces that appear to be some type of horse shoe nails or rail spikes.

See Unexplained Continuous Motion (UCM) video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIx_bq6f3g

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I want to be helpfull to you in fabrication works and deduct all those many words here to get our own result:)
So dear Scorch, to help you go forward faster with drawings mapping - here below I upload video of one Russian RC champ - very easy technology, that show how we are putting laser toner lines from paper to metal or wood to make RC plane models, I guess there is no matter where it can be used It is really good mapping technology of scaled drawings even to metal for further fabrications in  1:1 scale. You need aceton and mirror laser prints on paper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwxKE63QkMI

Thank you for your communication with me.I really appreciate it!!!

Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #565 on: November 13, 2011, 08:14:40 PM »
I do have hard copies of Ed's books on my shelf as well as the Passels Information Network book, about Ed, titled: "How to read his writings".

I actually have no concern; when the current state of physics says: "Perpetual motion is impossible".
Just as I have no concern; when the current state of physics (of the PAST) says: "Heavier than air, powered, flight is impossible".

None of these things are relevant if I can still tap into the forces of the universe and build a device that gives the APPEARANCE of 'perpetual motion'.

Just because I, and physics, can't explain how Ed built, and lighted, his castle doesn't mean he didn't do it.

You are correct in stating there is no reason to continue such a philosophical discussion. If the orbits of planets, for billions of years, is not considered to be 'perpetual motion' then whats the point of discussing any farther?

On the other hand, Ed could still tap into whatever energy keeps the planets in orbit, and use this energy to levitate, and perfectly balance, 30 ton blocks of coral and also keep his generator spinning.

So WHAT is IT?

If we can't call it "perpetual motion" then lets just called it: "Unexplained Continuous Motion". (Explanation to come at a later date when science finally catches up to what Ed (and the Wright brothers) accomplished. :)

Thank you for your advice on transferring an image but I am planning a simpler approach.

This device gives me the impression that it really should be a demonstration TOY that anybody can build. Therefore my goal is to try and keep it as simple as possible. This way, if it actually works, anybody else can throw one together and pass on the knowledge.

My plan to "map it out" is to use nothing more than a piece of paper, the width and length of the rotor surface, a ruler, and a little basic math.

Simply based on how many ferrites will fit into a V-Shape pattern with spacing somewhere around half the diameter of the ferrites. It simply needs to look good, and symmetrical, and hopefully replicate whats in the original video.

Once this is drawn on paper, using my pen, I will make a hole for the position of each ferrite. Then simply lay the paper on the rotor and use my pen to place a marks on the rotor. Then I can attach ferrites.

This is all accomplished by 'dead reckoning' with no complicated math or fancy engineering procedures.
A picture, in my mind, I then build with my hands.

Just like your video of the unusual aircraft that doesn't look like it will fly.
All I need to know is that I can create an airfoil shape by simply attaching a board, and all the wiring, on top of a totally flat wing. Doesn't matter if its aerodynamically efficient as long as I create a low pressure differential on top of the wing and build a relatively balanced aircraft. And even balance is not super critical because control surfaces can compensate to a certain extent. Therefore pigs, and lawnmowers, can fly! :)

And, in the case of this device, all I need to know is that a V-Shape concentrates magnetic force. Which has been in front of my face all my life. Try picking up some nails with a magnet. Ever wonder WHY they always "stick" the strongest at the POINTS of the nails instead of the heads where there is actually more, ferrous, mass?

I see you have added a copy of that video, I showed you the other day, to your youtube page. Glad to see it because, sometimes, these videos disappear and I probably should do the same at my own youtube page.

This video is just another great demonstration of the V-Gate effect.
Just like the V-Gate tracks and cars that many have replicated, it simply uses a series V shaped, ferrous, pieces configured as four, separate, and staggered tracks resulting in a continuous motion as four magnets continuously attract each track of V-gates as they come around.
And it was built using common stuff including a 4" PVC pipe union, CD, CD drive bearing, ceramic magnets and what I assume is just soft iron, V-Shaped, pieces that appear to be some type of horse shoe nails or rail spikes.

See Unexplained Continuous Motion (UCM) video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIx_bq6f3g

}:>

Your idea explained...

"And, in the case of this device, all I need to know is that a V-Shape concentrates magnetic force. Which has been in front of my face all my life. Try picking up some nails with a magnet. Ever wonder WHY they always "stick" the strongest at the POINTS of the nails instead of the heads where there is actually more, ferrous, mass?"   

Less weight at that tip of the nail???  Magnetic force easier to move that end of the nail. 

More to come young weed hopper.

Bill


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #566 on: November 13, 2011, 09:29:08 PM »
Your idea explained...

Less weight at that tip of the nail???  Magnetic force easier to move that end of the nail. 

More to come young weed hopper.

Bill
Hi dear Bill, my English is not so developed to understand the slang.Will you bee so kind to "translate" from English to English
"More to come young weed hopper." is this mean "young spamer"?
Well do you really think and know that nails dose not premagnetized before acting with other magnets by the natural Earth gravity?
Did you measure them before act with other magnets?may I see an video example?

I had mesured and all my 1000 nails was magntized... I want to know by who and how and why if it is not Earth gravity?
Sorry, I dont think that there is only nails end light weight are playing here such "games" with magnets...
guess light mass of domen at th end need less magnet power to be magntized and from that sharp end iron start to be natural magnet under the force of Earth gravity. Nature of planet will never give you chance to avoid in iron domen stright vectors...

I will tell you more, even iron powder (0.1mm small parts) are premagnetized before acting with magnets to show us magnet force lines in future...

sorry for my english

thanks in advanced for help to understand you better.

Truly
Rob
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #567 on: November 13, 2011, 10:11:29 PM »
Therefore pigs, and lawnmowers, can fly! :)
}:>
I really like your sense of humor:) When I will finish all these projects I will try to put on one pig on the fly :)))))))))))))
be sure it will fly from my hands, just I need to be far from that place as far as "pig"  landing will not sussesfull defiantly, but it will be funny to see such flight:)

Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #568 on: November 13, 2011, 10:12:58 PM »
Ok; finally got around to completing some more fabrication. Yay! :)

Turns out its actually easier to map the V than I originally thought.
This because the extra long ferrites are not going to need any spacing along the length so all I needed to make a pattern for is JUST a plain, paper, V. (See images)

And, even if I did need some spacing, I would still just use a plain paper V then use a spacing tool / jig for final installation of the ferrites.

I am a little concerned about the length of these off the shelf ferrites which are 10mm Diameter X 20mm Long. Because of this length, and the radius of the rotor, the ferrites are pretty well pointed away from each other along the length of the V.

Wish I could find something shorter off the shelf.
Might try fabricating a rotor with some smaller diameter ferrites that are shorter.

Anyway; here are the progress photos.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #569 on: November 13, 2011, 10:13:47 PM »
Hi dear Bill, my English is not so developed to understand the slang.Will you bee so kind to "translate" from English to English
"More to come young weed hopper." is this mean "young spamer"?
Well do you really think and know that nails dose not premagnetized before acting with other magnets by the natural Earth gravity?
Did you measure them before act with other magnets?may I see an video example?

I had mesured and all my 1000 nails was magntized... I want to know by who and how and why if it is not Earth gravity?
Sorry, I dont think that there is only nails end light weight are playing here such "games" with magnets...
guess light mass of domen at th end need less magnet power to be magntized and from that sharp end iron start to be natural magnet under the force of Earth gravity. Nature of planet will never give you chance to avoid in iron domen stright vectors...

I will tell you more, even iron powder (0.1mm small parts) are premagnetized before acting with magnets to show us magnet force lines in future...

sorry for my english

thanks in advanced for help to understand you better.

Truly
Rob

"young weed hopper"    is someone who is learning. 

I suggest that you identify the problems with the design then solve those problems. 
First what are the problems?   Try to write them out. 

Bill