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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #525 on: November 05, 2011, 01:39:50 AM »
Roobert33 isn't  "Mr.Robert H. Calloway"

Really?
Interesting!
Welcome aboard.
Hope you can help.

Please forgive my skepticism but; by all outward appearances, of Mr. Calloway's web site, it would seem he has SOMETHING to do with it even if its not his original engineering.

Are you claiming to be the same Robert33 who built the device and produced the video?

If so then I accept your claim on condition you answer some questions regarding 'your device'.
Should you fail to answer these questions honorably; then my acceptance is hereby withdrawn and you may be judged by all paying attention here.

-Why have you waited nearly a year to create an account and make an appearance here?
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-Why is your device on Mr. Calloway's web site as one of the "projects"?
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-Are you willing to answer some specific questions regarding this device?
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-Are you like those of us trying to help the future of this planet by exploring alternative energy systems?
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Please forgive me for asking all this.

Kindest regards;
Scorch.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2011, 02:13:51 AM by Scorch »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #526 on: November 05, 2011, 02:52:39 AM »
My main interest, right now, is merely to replicate what is in the video before attempting any changes.

As far as I know; nickel is not a ferromagnetic metal.
And nickel plating of the ferrite rods is more likely for appearance, and preservation of the ferrite materials, than actual performance.

I have seen both the videos you linked.
Still waiting to see a self runner.

The challenge you are faced with, by using magnets instead of ferrites, not only will your rotor be heavier, there will be a much stronger pull against the stator and trigger magnets which means the cam will have to work a lot harder typically resulting in a stalled rotor.

Roobert's original design is very lightweight and requires very little attraction to turn the rotor.

Everything I have "shared" is simply my own observations* of the video and what little I know about the behavior of magnets.

*One of the very first things I noticed in the video is a classic "hour glass" reflection on the end of ferrite pieces.
This is strong evidence these are not neodymium magnets. But, in fact, a machined part.

What is amazing to me is that, after 500+ posts, and many attempts to replicate, nobody even mentioned ferrites in this forum for nearly a year.
That is not until I came in here and brought it up.
This despite the fact its right there on Calloway's web site.

And then, suddenly, just a few days after I posted here and provided a couple pictures and ideas, roobert33 magically appears and makes the astounding claim that Robert Calloway is not roobert33...

What should we think about this?
Why this sudden appearance after all this time?
And if its not Calloway's project; why is it on Calloway's web site?
Is he merely another observer of the device video such as I?

Have I said or created something that hits really close to home?
Did somebody pester Mr. Calloway to the point he created the roobert33 account just to make this statement?

I am merely an explorer with many questions; not answers.

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Hi dear Scorch, please find my step by step answers below to you post.
OK thanks, now I understand but , sorry, as far as I am going to get power from dram I need to use Neo magnets at the both sides to have more torque. see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCr3lOhMJCg and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIEJ0vMnhjg and my first try from HDD magnets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsLBikVerE - it is my inexpencive testbase. I am "playing" with this rotor everyday:) It is from the EPP foam. I made it on my own construcrted Foam CNC hardware in 2 min:) I am going to upload new video to my channel MrArrow1961 soon. So, you will be keepposted if come to my Tube sometime..there is my videos about my own used technologies, RC fligths, my Cad software research and results, lot of learning materials about CNC ,Rhino cad's etc. Thanks for watching Sir!OK, understand, thanks for information about the ferrite nesting place:)
Ferrites that are not plated with Nickel will not work in magnetic field effectively based on the known  causes – magnet will pull more effectively if it has in front of it more ferromagnetic metals such as iron, nickel etc.  OKThis ferrites( if I will find nickel plated once)  I will check up at the next project of mine, not at this timeYes agree.Yes agreeThis video is very good demonstration how magnet-magnet V-gate is working. Same effect we have in Roobert33 motor, but less powerful I guess as fаr as we will not have there 2 side V-Gате magnet energy sum, that is my firm belief based on my own experiments with V-gate shape installed magnets and clear, non magnetic ferrites.I put numbers on your question to simplify my answers if you don’t mind Sir:)
1)- My opinion - it is just nice and simple material that was used by Rob33, it is adding weight and nothing doing with mechanical or magnet field balancing.
2) see my opinion above at 1) answer
3) My opinion - If you mean brass short finger insertion into the ply of dram wall, then this is mechanical balancing to get first small moment to pass every time  dram it self like “flywheel”  dead point.
This is most difficult part to find exact place (point) to put it in every new dram like that.
4) each magnet line of at V structure has same pole e.g. let say left side N pole on the top and right side S pole on the top. When you will try to install them from Neo you will get force that will arrest your movements and exact targeting of magnets at their place. So be prepared to stand against of that confrontation force as far as by my calculations gap between the magnets only 2mm for D= ½” magnets. If you are going to use smaller magnets then reduce that gap to minimum to get approx solid magnet line from all magnets. As minimum gap between magnets that less subsidence of polelines between them.
5) see my answer above at point 4)
6) About top magnet - dram North side magnets has to see above same pole – North and dram South V-gate line has to see above same pole – South
About bottom magnet – I am not sure, need to construct my dram to check it, but to run a few steps forward I will copy the same position for bottom magnets to dram as the top one.Not agree:) I made it, its working as I said above, try to use may experience, guess and hope you will become happy to see easy result just with 1 bullet shoot:)Agree, just all magnets or ferrites  has to have sharp same height and other dimensions. Height is most critical staff. Take a note.Well, dear Scorch, V-gate principle IS WORKING, believe me, I am not bad and alive Armenian engineer with old "Soviet" wide knowledge base:)
Thanks for your information and help to me, I really appreciate to communicate with you and be effective and helpful for your project as well with my shared information. Shared info coming only from my own experience, no advertisements , no tricks, not an idea – just from practical working experiments.

Hope my post and answers will not disappoint by its content Mr. Robert H. Calloway. This long lasting post was only my tech opinon and I love to know if it will be loved by my namesake - Genius Engineer from Texas Mr. Robert H. Calloway

P.S. If only nickel plated ferrites on dram working with up and down magnets at motor it means for me that Genius Engineer from Texas Mr. Robert H. Calloway show his tuff middle finger up to any fundomental knowledge base man in the all over the World! Thanks Rob!


Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #527 on: November 05, 2011, 12:40:57 PM »
Hi All,
what do you think about this video from
Roobert33:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus

It reminds me of the principle of the Finsrud machine,
but here puts it to work as a real selfrunning permanent magnet powered
motor.

Is this the holy grail we have been looking for ?

It seems to combine magnetic fields and gravity fields to produce
a working magnet motor.

Please comment.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Hi dear Stefan,
as far as you are administrator here and can see almost everything in server communication traffic you are kindly asked to help us and verify - confirm if new user named as “roobert33” is the same person that pass this motor video to you to put it in your youtube channel?

Thanks in advance for help Sir

P.S. to roobert33 - Sorry Sir for such question to forum admin.If you are really Roobert33 then there is no problem for you and it is grate honor for us to see you in this topic even after 1 year!
Dear roobert33 are you English speaking man???
You know we know by heart motor Creator right hand from video. Are you able to make new picture of your right hand and share picture with us to verify your motor owner personality?

If we will not have here any verification from you or forum administration guess nobody will continue communication with you Sir.

Thanks in advanced for right understanding in such verification.I am engineer and need to know if I am speaking with motor author do not loose time and efforts

Truly
Rob
« Last Edit: November 05, 2011, 01:20:34 PM by Arrow »

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #528 on: November 05, 2011, 02:03:01 PM »
Hi, I will answer to your questions, give me a few days. Thanks!

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #529 on: November 05, 2011, 03:30:24 PM »
Hi, I will answer to your questions, give me a few days. Thanks!
Hi again dear Rob, are you able to make new move for 10 min with same motor and upload it to Youtube again?
Why I am asking - at the end I had noticed some RPM auto degradation and then you had stop rotor.
I need to see if it is possible more longer behavior of running rotor.
If I am asking too much from you, then take my deep apology Sir
Truly
Rob
P.S. by the way such new video will be good verification that Roobert33 is the same person with roobert33 here.
If you are in trouble with video huge size for 10 min then I can recomend you to download and install nice, small and free software
here - http://atube-catcher.dsnetwb.com/video/
It has built in video converter (drug and drop window) and able to cut big size videos to very small ones almost without loosing video and audio quality.You just need to choose in video converter this codec, it is Youtube relevant format.
http://s017.radikal.ru/i439/1111/1f/7c2586ad1d54.jpg

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #530 on: November 05, 2011, 04:40:36 PM »
@Arrow
Tomorrow, I will answer your questions, waiting, you can also write to me privately on my channel "Roobert33" on YouTube. This is my...
 http://www.youtube.com/user/Roobert33?feature=mhee
Bye!

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #531 on: November 05, 2011, 05:58:23 PM »
@Arrow
Tomorrow, I will answer your questions, waiting, you can also write to me privately on my channel "Roobert33" on YouTube. This is my...
 http://www.youtube.com/user/Roobert33?feature=mhee
Bye!
Dear Rob, I don't know how much private mesages in Tube account, so my mail is drvatson@yahoo.com
This is really private way to communicate.Open for communication with any one from here, and ready to share 100% my info and results.No problem, because this is my position to the relevant companies that closed all this staff from all of us!
If I will get result on 100% then it (tech staff drawings ets) will be pass cloning on 100% procedures for everyone free of charge on 100%.
such things must be open source as powerfull UNIX OS ets...
I have been at your tube account about 20 days ago before coming here to this forum and have seen your experiments with high voltage etc.
Thanks for information, I will wait.
Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #532 on: November 05, 2011, 11:54:03 PM »
As far as I know; nickel is not a ferromagnetic metal.
And nickel plating of the ferrite rods is more likely for appearance, and preservation of the ferrite materials, than actual performance.
Hi dear Scorch, here below link to photo materials from one of my docs that telling about Nickel, Cobalt and Fe is a ferromagnetic metals. http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1111/6b/f6cc89595f1b.jpg

Mean time I want to share my works progress - I had completely destroy my first try rotor as far as 10% of magnets at my rotor degraded up to almost zero. So, my devise for future - never let them connect without gap it is killing magnets very fast(in my case 2 weeks) Problem was at the same pole magnets physical connection between the magnets when I had glue them up to foam dram.Now I decided to start from simple flat V-gate model and here is my works progress. http://s017.radikal.ru/i403/1111/aa/107794fb6ea5.jpg
I must find relevant gap between the magnets from HDD that I have as far as I dont have good    
Magnetic Field Viewer Card it is becoming hard work:(
I found this one in the net.Do you think if this is right choice to buy?
http://www.teachersource.com/ElectricityAndMagnetism/EddyCurrentsAndMagneticFields/MagneticFieldViewerCard.aspx


Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #533 on: November 06, 2011, 12:31:28 AM »

I understand what you are saying about nickel.
This is not a concern for me right now.

Just trying to replicate what I see in the video without changing anything but also not prepared, at this time, to special order any nickel plated ferrites, not without specifications including dimensions and the specific ferrite formula that was used.
This would be a good question for roobert33. Another question I have: Is the trigger/switch (Bottom magnet) spring loaded?

As far as the magnetic film card is concerned, it seems to be a good price and should help you find the lines of force.
And, yes, neodymium magnets can be very powerful and they are also very brittle and easily damaged if allowed to snap against each other.
So, don't do that thing!  ;)

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Hi dear Scorch, here below link to photo materials from one of my docs that telling about Nickel, Cobalt and Fe is a ferromagnetic metals. http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1111/6b/f6cc89595f1b.jpg

Mean time I want to share my works progress - I had completely destroy my first try rotor as far as 10% of magnets at my rotor degraded up to almost zero. So, my devise for future - never let them connect without gap it is killing magnets very fast(in my case 2 weeks) Problem was at the same pole magnets physical connection between the magnets when I had glue them up to foam dram.Now I decided to start from simple flat V-gate model and here is my works progress. http://s017.radikal.ru/i403/1111/aa/107794fb6ea5.jpg
I must find relevant gap between the magnets from HDD that I have as far as I dont have good    
Magnetic Field Viewer Card it is becoming hard work:(
I found this one in the net.Do you think if this is right choice to buy?
http://www.teachersource.com/ElectricityAndMagnetism/EddyCurrentsAndMagneticFields/MagneticFieldViewerCard.aspx


Truly
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #534 on: November 06, 2011, 02:29:45 AM »
Before talking about me and my videos, I wanted to clarify a very important thing, I'm not "Mr. Robert H. Calloway," I don't know this gentleman and I don't even know what he does, I'm Italian, while this person is of Texas!

I try to answer your questions ...
A year ago, when I realized my video of the "V-gate" and I posted it on YT, I not remotely imagine that it would have been criticized on both my video and on my person. But, if there have been criticisms and maybe there will still be, all this have deserved myself, as the above video is not true, it was just a bad joke ...
Also a year ago, after sending my video on YT, Mr. Stefan "overunitydotcom" wrote me and telling me, if I gave him the permission to post my video on his channel and I answered yes!
After a week though, I realized the grave error of my video and I immediately erased it from YT. But it was too late....
On the same day I wrote back telling Stefan that my video was not good and that was just a bad joke. So, I told him that the "V-gate" revolved with a reel that I had inside my shirt ....
When I wrote to Stefan, I had a confused mind for that my video, because in those days I didn't know who meet first in private messages, criticism and to the many questions posed to me by persons on the operation of the "V-gate". But the most challenging for me was having to give explanations about the coil that I had inside the shirt, but I could not answer them, because the history of the coil was invented by me ...
Without thinking, the first thing that came in my mind was to write to Stefan telling him the story of the coil. But, in reality, I had to tell him precisely the truth that the device was powered by a jet of compressed air!
I do not know why I behaved that way!

I really like to do experiments on "free energy" and I'm not totally against it or to put a spoke in the wheels to people who have the same idea ... It 'a very beautiful and fascinating thing for those who perform research on this topic.
If I wrote just now, after a year, it's only for the fact that "Mr. Scorch" has made a perfect copy of my "V-gate" in great detail and I can only praise him ^ __ ^
I also wrote, because I deeply regret deceiving people who trust of success on the idea of my "V-gate" and also to avoid to waste time for something that doesn't work. Unfortunately, my "V-gate" doesn't work with the pull of the magnets, the rods placed upon it are aluminum.
I only hope that one day someone will find the solution for a truly innovative and reliable mechanism ...

Greetings to All ...

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #535 on: November 06, 2011, 02:59:55 AM »
Thanks for the "man up"[confession]
Robert33

I remember speaking with Mr. Calloway back when this all happened,.......... you are not him!

He"s a nice fellow from Texas that says this type design does work!!
We have another member here Ehrfinder he has one that works like this but he's not sharing?

Have a good life Bud!

Chet

PS
I just remembered   ,There is a man that lives close to me William Landon Jr. an aerospace engineer [retired]
He has a device he has been trying to patent for several years now [there's a thread here somewhere]

A magnet motor
He told me if he's had no luck by December to stop by and see him and we'll have a nice long Open source[I hope ] talk!

Which I will of course share here.......

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #536 on: November 06, 2011, 03:37:52 AM »

I only hope that one day someone will find the solution for a truly innovative and reliable mechanism ...

Greetings to All ...

:) Well, I dont know where is the true or other things with the air or etc...but this guy in video really running it...yes by hands , constructed buy kid who is playing with magnets - but principle the same...look at its traction power, even at this badly made not balanced motor it is powerfull without any mesurments...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVzJwKhN0os

very "nice" bla bla forum of confenssions from you guys...:( good and vulgar trick !
Now we have Italian man with his motor here (I had look to his tube channel and catch his right hand "configuration" etc., that was on first video 1:1 his hand guys... after 1 hour I am reading here confession that motor is fake...Roobert 33 not Roobert 33... what is going on here guys???Shall I believe to my eyes or such fake confessions? Where is the motor of Mr. Calloway guys? sold to punks?:)))) I guess you will find the next trick answer...some people here are very creative to bla bla...
Air runnig aluminium motor?:))) ROFL where is the blades, props and wings roobert 33? Why it is not flying in the air?:), I have seen your hand Sir at your tube, and motor video has the same right hand... what elese you can say as confession that you dont want to share its simple structure? no problem, keep it for your kids to say our FATHER made it for world but big uncle took it away... I will find out structure of motor myself in 2 weeks:) Too late guys...read this US patent http://s004.radikal.ru/i208/1111/ea/b76c13f4b637.tif

Well prepared fairy tale is here guys, nothing else - thanks a lot for "grate support" to understand what is going on in this forum.Now I can understand why economic crisis on the world...People start to lie by ton..no trust - no money...no alien ideology as USSR and its communism, no war,no enemy, no targets...we need such targets to pump pokets of punks with money dont you?:))) Thought I live in the old USSR country of not frighted fools..Guess it is already all of the world in this situation...guess self distruction going to happen on the planet to kill lazy-bones not creative idiots...they are too many as insects on the planet...

This motor and video is working one! Only one man in the world know it's real sizes and structure and it is not from the long list of people that talking here it is not even Mr. Calloway sorry - because there are no second 10 min same motor working video evidence with creator face in the frames.

Good by guys , you are not serious here!.sorry can not see anymore this forum...

Dear Scorch you have here my e-mail adress, if you need help contact with me...this guys playing with us with our free time to create new I guess.I dont believe to anybody here anymore!

P.S. guys dont even try to play with my address, it its under the huge network monitoring as far as I am active Chief Engineer of largest Telecom IT Data Center in Armenia.I can see everything in the networks as network professional. dont be kids...

Furthermore, dont forget Armenian guys won World Chess Champion sheep 2011...http://rus.azatutyun.am/content/article/24276893.html
We are many here like that our guys smart,this is style of our life! I am proud of that - don’t play "chess" with us in other e.g. mathematics and logical fields!

We are peace-loving nation, creative free and dont like the wars all of our 2790 years of Armenian history


See you in next life:)
Truly
Rob
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #537 on: November 06, 2011, 03:46:04 PM »
Hi Ramset, thank you for your understanding. For me, it was only right to tell the truth.
A greeting  :)

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« Reply #538 on: November 06, 2011, 03:48:03 PM »
Hi Arrow, thanks for your comment!
I'll explain briefly how my video was made.
The pipe that blew air was not visible, carefully positioned on a pole next to and above the "V-gate", so to hide the trick ... I calculated the jet of air to an optimal position to avoid to go nor too slowly nor too fast. The air jet was less than the weight of the "V-gate", the air in any way it could move.
In practice, I had free hands and I could manage the movement ...
And doesn't it seem strange that I put a music on the video to cover up something that could help you discover the trick?
 
I'll tell you frankly, if I could go back to a year ago, certainly now that video wouldn't be viewing on the channel of Mr. Stefan and others ...

I wanted to tell you again, I understand very well that perhaps my story has been bothering you and believe me, also I do not like this thing, though, I had to tell the truth. Sometimes we must also accept the negative facts to go on ...
I've noticed that you are a very intelligent and educated man, you have a lot of passion and desire in the field of "free energy" and surely, sooner or later you'll get something good  ;)
A greeting, bye  :)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #539 on: November 06, 2011, 04:39:29 PM »
Hi Arrow, thanks for your comment!
I'll explain briefly how my video was made.
The pipe that blew air was not visible, carefully positioned on a pole next to and above the "V-gate", so to hide the trick ... I calculated the jet of air to an optimal position to avoid to go nor too slowly nor too fast. The air jet was less than the weight of the "V-gate", the air in any way it could move.
In practice, I had free hands and I could manage the movement ...
And doesn't it seem strange that I put a music on the video to cover up something that could help you discover the trick?
 
I'll tell you frankly, if I could go back to a year ago, certainly now that video wouldn't be viewing on the channel of Mr. Stefan and others ...

I wanted to tell you again, I understand very well that perhaps my story has been bothering you and believe me, also I do not like this thing, though, I had to tell the truth. Sometimes we must also accept the negative facts to go on ...
I've noticed that you are a very intelligent and educated man, you have a lot of passion and desire in the field of "free energy" and surely, sooner or later you'll get something good  ;)
A greeting, bye  :)
Robert, show me new good 10 min video with air pipe pumping style etc, unhide all what you have done as trick, show me not magnetic bar, rotor with metal many nails and I belive to your confession here, no other way as far as I know very well airdinamics, material weight etc. See my topic in RCDESIGN ( 3-rd modeling forum in the world ) to understand my level deep in tech things understanding. http://forum.rcdesign.ru/f82/thread246908.html

Mean time this is only words for me, no evidence even that motor still near you:)
If I will see other motor in tricks demonstration or if you will say that motor terminated, sold because you need money, then it means for me that you dont want to fight  for the true! You are Italian, I know what is going on even in your blood vessel now, I have many Italian good friends. I know your passion Sir! As far as you are able to construct copy of your motor in 6 days - I want to see new video in 2 days ,(november 9-24.00) otherwise this your confession of man who is under the grate moral and physical pressure of stupid punks! I have seen your hands Robert - where is motor??????

Someone? show motor 2-nd time with all unhide tricks? dose anyone have such MAN courage?
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