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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 499233 times)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #495 on: January 20, 2011, 07:33:04 AM »
Hi  all , the problem with this devise is that it is always designed to work on a single plane.A spherical design , that is shaped like the earths magnetic field is where the answer lies. The closer to the poles the tighter the field, the closer to the equator, the more the field spreads out.If somebody could show how to put coils around the earth, to produce AC, I think it could be replicated, since I already have a sphere that mimicks the earths magnetic field.Although my sphere has only 8 poles , but could be increased to as many poles as you want or need.I believe the earth has unlimited poles ,it depends on your point of perspective...............shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #496 on: January 20, 2011, 07:50:22 AM »
also the sticky spot that causes so much problem is offset by the design itself, the farther you get from the axis ,the more the field spreads out ,automatically stairstepping the sticky spot.As the magnetic field expands the collapsing field behind it, can add to the up coming opposite ........this only works till you hit the equator , then every thing reverses..............just thinking out loud ....shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #497 on: January 21, 2011, 12:03:58 AM »
Shylow:

So, are you suggesting that we should build a PMM the diameter of the earth at the equator?  Please, I am not making fun here, I just want to understand your post.  Tesla once said that, we could build a ring around the earth, and suspend it temporarily while being built but then, gravity would hold it in place and then, it would float independent of the earth's rotation and we could extract tons of power from it.  Maybe this is not related to what you are posting but....your idea sounds interesting to me.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #497 on: January 21, 2011, 12:03:58 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #498 on: January 21, 2011, 01:32:25 PM »
Hi Bill, I'm saying that we should build a shpere shaped rotor, because with this shape the field starts very tight at the top ,but as you go down around the outside of the ball the field spreads out ,then starts to get closer again as you pass the equator. The rotor I have is eight poles 4n, 4s, ns very close at the axis, ns at the equator ~2" apart. Draw a ball ,now draw two lines all the way around at 90 deg. to each other ,all the norths one side of the lines (4), all the souths on the other side..........shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #499 on: January 22, 2011, 06:19:22 PM »
As I said earlier, instead of just theorizing about it, it is preferable to start actually doing hands on research on these devices independent of whether or not one would meet with instant success. This process is necessary to gain more knowledge and to fine tune the directions in which success may be achieved. 

Independent of the fact that excess energy can be produced and that's confirmed indisputably by experiments such as the one shown in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqXJbwpNRo , that excess energy is so small that some ingenious way has to be found to utilize it for the purposes of continuous rotation. One thing we learn over and over again is that there are no known methods of efficiently transforming rotational excess energy into translational. These were the problems met by everybody who tried to replicate Torbay's device, these are the problems in this device and in any other device where the negative feedback is to be achieved by transferring excess energy into translational energy. Of course, one possible way to go is find ways to increase the amount of excess energy produced and it may be argued that that's what @Roobert33's device does. It may be but I don't see how (even with that additional lever at the bottom). Thus, probanly one lesson that we should learn is that any device requiring transformation of rotational excess energy into translational is doomed practically (it may make sense theoretically but there's no way to achieve it in a real world, friction-prone model). As a matter of fact these are the same problems we're meeting with when trying to make gravity motors.

Also, due to the same friction-loss arguments, doomed is the attempt to use for the purposes of continuous rotation the excess energy produced in one direction for inducing translational motion in a perpendicular direction, as in the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqXJbwpNRo video.

So, one obvious direction we should pursue is to find conditions for natural asymmetries (recall that natural asymmetries were found in the theory of electricity that lead to OU) in the fields such that the excess energy of the translational motion be used directly in the construction providing continuous spinning. There are may failed attempts in this respect, using mu-metal shielding but that doesn't mean that can't be done. If someone feels there are fundamental reasons why that can't be done he should lay out these reasons and not just reject the idea verbally. So far, I don's see such fundamental reasons. Mybe those who like to use the Maxwell3D simulation or even the 2D simulation can help in this respect.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #500 on: January 22, 2011, 06:22:54 PM »
In view of the above I'm intending to take down the two videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrgTTmHGMQ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jftQS2ClBm8) from youtube. It seems to me they served their purpose. If anyone thinks I should keep them there let me know.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #501 on: January 23, 2011, 02:46:22 AM »
If that magnet was much smaller, but had the same strength as a big one you got there, the two experiments would ended up with the very same result.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #502 on: October 20, 2011, 03:25:25 AM »
Hello dear people, sorry for my English, I am new, and from Armenia.
Regarding the watched video and device have got an idea to use Bedini circuit but a bit changed - no primary batt in it and instead of it to use Roobert33 magnetic motor field from every magnet at one side by adding to Bedini's circuit second coil with rectifire and capacitor under that magnets - energise it by that .Just hope this will help to turn it more efective if it is not fake demosntration.Target is crazy:) as far as such coils shall not create additional magnetic brakes when charging Bedini's circuit "output" catacitor and discarge that capacitor at the next stage to batt at the end by high (about 400v) DC voltage pulse.This is a draft idea and it is need to be tested.

Trully,
Rob
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #503 on: October 24, 2011, 10:48:12 PM »
Hi,
please help with info.
is that true that neodinuim magnets getting old (degradating)  at such working way as it is shown on the video and loosing its magnetic power on 7-10% per year?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #503 on: October 24, 2011, 10:48:12 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #504 on: October 25, 2011, 12:47:56 AM »
Hi,
please help with info.
is that true that neodinuim magnets getting old (degradating)  at such working way as it is shown on the video and loosing its magnetic power on 7-10% per year?

Off course cause that is the great secret of monkey bussiness  :D  :D  :D  :D

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #505 on: October 25, 2011, 01:19:43 AM »
Hi,
please help with info.
is that true that neodinuim magnets getting old (degradating)  at such working way as it is shown on the video and loosing its magnetic power on 7-10% per year?

Not quite.   It would take temperatures above 170 deg F or an extreme pulse to degrade a Neo mag. With Neo's you should get many many years of use out of them.  ;]
No monkeys here.  ;]

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #505 on: October 25, 2011, 01:19:43 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #506 on: October 26, 2011, 03:27:55 AM »
It appears this thread is pretty dead with no posts from January to October but I am here to see if there is any possibility of learning anything more.

From what I can determine; this appears to be a relatively simple device to replicate and, YET, nobody has actually built the same thing!
Even CLaNZeR appears to have it wrong including the lack of lightweight design, ferrite pieces, single bar magnet on top and trigger magnet on bottom... All MISSING from his build.

Is the right place? Is there another, more up to date, thread on this device?

After doing a quick review of Robert Calloway's page regarding this motor, I see KEY ingredients that MUST be included:
#1 Rotor is ferrite rods; NOT magnets.
#2 Top magnet is SINGLE bar.
#3 Helper 'trigger' magnet at bottom.
#4 All lightweight, non-ferrous, construction materials.

See:
http://www.callowayengines.com/msg3.htm

I have done a word search through this entire forum and NOBODY has used the word: "ferrite"!

How can this be?
Robert's page CLEARLY states: "... the rotor wheel is not made or covered with magnets. It is made with ferrite pieces."
Did he write that AFTER January when nobody was paying attention?

I come here with the questions:
What type of ferrite has a polished, shiny, appearance?
What PARTICULAR ferrite material/formula is suggested?
What dimensions might be suggested for the ferrite pieces?
How many ferrite pieces were used?
Are there off-the-shelf ferrite rods that might be suitable?
What are the dimensions of the top & bottom magnets?

Some of you are pretty good at dissecting video in your attempts to debunk it.
But can you examine the video and try to answer some of my questions regarding the materials used?

Please respond.

Kindest regards.


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #507 on: October 26, 2011, 01:16:29 PM »
Not quite.   It would take temperatures above 170 deg F or an extreme pulse to degrade a Neo mag. With Neo's you should get many many years of use out of them.  ;]
No monkeys here.  ;]

Mags
Hi dear Mags,
Sorry for my English Sir,
with your temperature statement I am agree  on 100%, but I am not agree with statement that magnets will not have degradation from pulse operation as far as even short pulse of same pole such as N to N or S to S will change structure of magnets pre magnetized metal domens any way. I had call to one of the famous Russia Res. Institutes in Moscow who are busy with super conductivity (SRI of High Temperature ) research and had conversation about neodymium magnets with one of the famous engineers(he was a friend of my friends) - I was advised and informed that magnets getting old at static work at position N to N pole or S to S and loosing about max. 7-10% per year... also it depends of course from the gap of two magnets, as mush it is close and small - that much the magnets degradations become faster.
I am interesting about that and want to know if anyone here measured by digital gauss meters degradations speed in 1 year of such systems? What is the results? I am sure US Patents 4151431 working from 79 year, there must be results. Very interesting to know such information  to calculate such motors life time to next magnet change time when degradations will rise to 20% level.

Grate thanks in advance for future information!

Truly,
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #508 on: October 26, 2011, 01:34:31 PM »
Off course cause that is the great secret of monkey bussiness  :D  :D  :D  :D
Hi, I am sorry I don’t know what is the meaning of "monkey business" but I want to say here that this motor not braking The law of conservation of energy  as far as it is using magnet accumulated energy which was preliminary “pumped” to the rare-earth threw (metal) by electrical energy impulse that was pre generated by human created different AC power plants or otherwise. If you are not agree with this statment then it is very interesting to know your positon and tech explanations about The law of conservation of energy and artificially created by human magnets behavior.
Truly,
Rob

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #509 on: October 26, 2011, 03:30:14 PM »
The law of conservation of energy and artificially created by human magnets behavior.
No it's not. The conservation of energy is a basic law of nature and it has nothing to do with human interaction. 8)
Being a law of nature means it cannot be broken in any way, at least not by humans knowledge of today.
Every proper test performed since the dawn of physics points to physics being 100% correct and magnetism is 100% conservative.
No free lunch here....please move on folks....  ::) ;D ;)

 

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