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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 409777 times)

Offline maw2432

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2010, 11:22:24 AM »
I am now just waiting for the next part of the story.... where some men in black came by and told him to tell everyone it was fake and they took the motor away.     

Anyway,  I still think it would make a great desktop kinetic energy toy if he could get the coil and battery hidden inside.... maybe a fake base.   

Bill

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2010, 12:33:05 PM »
Hi, Skeptics.
This guy speaks. You can ask him where, how and why he hides the tiny horses which move his motor.  Calloway V Gate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCr3lOhMJCg&NR=1&feature=fvwp

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2010, 12:39:55 PM »
Hi, Skeptics.
This guy speaks. You can ask him where, how and why he hides the tiny horses which move his motor.  Calloway V Gate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCr3lOhMJCg&NR=1&feature=fvwp

The "Tiny horses" you speak of is simply the motion of his hand. Everything you see in that clip is legit, no free energy though, the "energy" is coming from him moving his hand up and down to get past the sticky point.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2010, 12:39:55 PM »
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Offline Qwert

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2010, 12:59:16 PM »
The "Tiny horses" you speak of is simply the motion of his hand.
Exactly! And this same function in Rooberts', is the moving frame. The wheel functions as a flywheel. When you take away the flywheel from four-stroke Internal Combustion Engine, it won't work. More:http://www.callowayengines.com/index.htm
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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2010, 01:25:32 PM »
Exactly! And this same function in Rooberts', is the moving frame. The wheel functions as a flywheel. When you take away the flywheel from four-stroke Internal Combustion Engine, it won't work. More:http://www.callowayengines.com/index.htm
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but this isn't a four-stroke ICE... and not all engines need flywheels. ;)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2010, 01:25:32 PM »
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Offline Qwert

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2010, 01:51:31 PM »
but this isn't a four-stroke ICE... and not all engines need flywheels. ;)
Right! It's not ICE. And your argumentation is not backed by real experiments, it's just theorization. That's why modern science is always backed by real experiments. Anyway, to my knowledge no ICE exists without flywheel; even Wankel has one.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2010, 01:55:47 PM »
Right! It's not ICE. And your argumentation is not backed by real experiments, it's just theorization. That's why modern science is always backed by real experiments. Anyway, to my knowledge no ICE exists without flywheel; even Wankel has one.
so what's your point? this vgate thing is not a 4stroke ICE... it's not even similar. ::)
ok, so to your knowledge no ICE exist without a flywheel, so what... is this vgate thing an ICE? there are other piston engines that do exist and do run without a flywheel. here is some experimentation to back my argument... ::)
http://home.ctlnet.com/~robotguy67/classic_cars/air_engines/V-Twin/air_engines.htm
you can post your mea culpa anytime. ;)

even wankel... oooohh.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
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Offline ramset

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2010, 02:18:56 PM »
QWert
I agree, calloway has to be where Robertto started on his trip to madness!
Seems like it should work!

We loose experimenters all the time this way!
They Go nuts!
I really can't blame them ,The little gray cells get soft!

A consequence of seeking OU.
We've seen this before and we'll see it again!
Maybe we should start a 12 step group for some of these poor addicted souls?

I know what I want for Christmas
A "calloway" !!
Gotta try it!!

Chet


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2010, 02:48:42 PM »

even wankel... oooohh.
My point is, that you can't say anything for sure until you make a real experiment on real subject. And your behaviour guys, is theorization only. I believe that you know that there are some examples in real world where something works against rationality or against human judgement.
Pneumatic motor is not an ICE and not an engine; it works on already energized air, like electric motor works on previously created electric current. Also a "motor" cannot be called an "engine" since "engine" always resembles a generator and "motor" never. And this kind of machine (Roobert's) can be called a generator since it does not rely on earlier created energy. That's why I compare it rather to the ICE and not to the "electric motor".
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And why four-stroke ICE? With human rationality it should not work since three strokes of four are idle, even worse, one of those three is "compression": in fact, it would not work without energy conserving flywheel.
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2010, 02:51:56 PM »
Stephan,
PLease ask Roberto to come here!
Tell him we understand!!

Some of your friends would like to play with his idea!!
Or just send us a PDF on what he has done to date!

You have to at least ask him!!
For Christmas  ;D

Chet

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
Chet:

Great idea.  This, at least, might give us an insight into his mindset.  This design is elegant and well built, so what I want to know is, did he try, and try this and it did not work?  Or, was this a red herring from the start?

And, if so, why?

We all might just learn something that might help us in the future.

Bill

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2010, 05:22:49 PM »
And now it seems I wasted my time yesterday, adding sound to the original video to time the speed, just to learn that Youtube was broken so I couldn't upload....  :D
Well, today Youtube works again and if you want you can check out my video here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMkeC2ApNO0
Draw your own conclusions  ;)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2010, 05:47:14 PM »
And now it seems I wasted my time yesterday, adding sound to the original video to time the speed, just to learn that Youtube was broken so I couldn't upload....  :D
Well, today Youtube works again and if you want you can check out my video here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMkeC2ApNO0
Draw your own conclusions  ;)

Nice job Jubjub.

Actually, if you listen to the beeps carefully, you will see that the rpm is fairly erratic throughout, as I mentioned before.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2010, 05:51:56 PM »
I spent quite a bit of time on this idea several years ago and from my tests I believe this is possible and probably genuine.  I'm still not convinced it will have enough torque to do much work (yet), but I believe this design would run until something wears out.  If the wheel were much larger that would help and using more powerful magnets would give more torque as well.  Once the torque is there, it's just a matter of adding some gearing to get a generator up to speeds needed to provide some useful power generation.  ;D

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2010, 06:03:08 PM »
GoldenMean
Are you sterlinga's brother?
Only kidding!!

Stephan, Please get more info from Roberto!!
Chet

 

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