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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 564676 times)

Omnibus

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #465 on: January 14, 2011, 06:29:21 PM »
I know Stefan is not reading this board on a regular basis but I will continue to re-post my open appeal for banning @spinner_MP and any other disruptive individual as long as he (or they) continue to spam this and other threads with their low class insults, contributing nothing to the discussion.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #466 on: January 14, 2011, 06:37:49 PM »
I know Stefan is not reading this board on a regular basis but I will continue to re-post my open appeal for banning @spinner_MP and any other disruptive individual as long as he (or they) continue to spam this and other threads with their low class insults, contributing nothing to the discussion.

Why don't you write directly to Stefan? I can send you his e-mail address.... Or, you are intending to make additional few hundred of BS posts?
SPAM, OU,  Spam, i made it, sPAm,..beyond any doubt, spaM, SMOT is absolutely OU, spam, Einstein is a clown, sPaM.... etc...





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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #467 on: January 14, 2011, 06:43:48 PM »
Like I said, I will re-post my open appeal to Stefan for @spinn_MP to be banned because of his deliberate effort to destroy OU discussions every time he continues to spew his spam (I never complain to Stefan in personal e-mails to him behind peoples' backs).

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #468 on: January 14, 2011, 06:49:53 PM »
Here is an attachment of what I did.

1. Circular Magnet Face up (to ceiling). Vertical Plane. Cylinder = horizontal plane, along table top. Measure Distance engaged = 1.56 inches.
2. Circular Magnet on Edge (Balance it). Horizontal plane. Engaged 2.25"
3. Bar Magnet Face up. Vertical plane. Engaged = 1.54 inches.
4. Bar Magnet Face horizontal. Horizontal Plane. Engaged 2.25 inches.

This works out to a 44% increase/decrease in Magnetic Field strength, relative to distance of engagement.

Hi Chipper,

Thank you for the drawing and the explanation. I will digest it and if I have questions I will ask.

rgds, Gyula

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #469 on: January 14, 2011, 10:56:45 PM »
O.k., This is probably a stupid question or two but here they are:

1. Is the track aligned North South?

2. I always thought that a north pole was slightly stronger than a south pole such as with the earths magnetic field. Sometimes people get confused over what is north and south on a magnet.

Since the south pole of a compass points to the north pole:

A. Are you reversing these to correspont to the Earth's poles

... OR

B. Does your experiment merely prove that the north pole is stronger and spinner is a unlicensed troll?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #470 on: January 14, 2011, 11:29:13 PM »
Observe the Cam closely and you will notice that there are some revolutions where the Cam is not even lifting the upper bar.
Really? Would you like to show the exact point where that happens? Somehow, I'm unable to spot that point where the CAM IS NOT LIFTING THE UPPER BAR, despite my several efforts.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #471 on: January 15, 2011, 12:48:50 AM »
Really? Would you like to show the exact point where that happens? Somehow, I'm unable to spot that point where the CAM IS NOT LIFTING THE UPPER BAR, despite my several efforts.

Look at this link, and watch very closely.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:_Mechanical_Opener_for_V-Gate_Magnet_Motor

It starts in between 1:44 and 1:54. Go to this point in the video and then rewind a couple of times, and you will start noticing a couple of things.

1. The push up height appears to be different through this little window of time. Observe around 1:48 seconds, slightly before, or after. You will notice that the cam barely lifts the bar magnet, then right after the bar magnet will jump real high - inconsistent heights - How can this be?

2. Now that you know what you are looking for let the video run out and you will observe the other things that I mentioned.



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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #472 on: January 15, 2011, 01:04:48 AM »
Chipper you are wrong. Sometimes youtube videos seize up on a slow computer. It is smooth for me and here is a guy that went through frame by frame and add a tone. It is steady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMkeC2ApNO0&feature=related

I have no doubt that is real and possible. He would have most likely taken the video down because of the overwhelming response and maybe got a visit from whoever. One thing is for sure, it appears he did what academics have been claiming is impossible - they call it perpetual motion - dumb asses.

Bedini posted a video of howard johnsons magnetic train.

It only takes one white crow to prove not all crows are black unless your are a programmed academic.

Look what happened to the guy that uploaded video of his flux gate? Google took his account away for figuring out a cool magnet trick.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #473 on: January 15, 2011, 12:28:42 PM »
Like I said, I will re-post my open appeal to Stefan for @spinn_MP to be banned because of his deliberate effort to destroy OU discussions every time he continues to spew his spam (I never complain to Stefan in personal e-mails to him behind peoples' backs).
Lol, you have never complained to any of the site owner's before?    You lying pervert....

Hey, SPAM meister, what exactly are you planning to do about the current situation?
 ;D

Get laid.. and, get yourself at least a basic education...
That's a friendly advice, OmniBot pal...

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #474 on: January 15, 2011, 01:42:50 PM »
Chipper you are wrong. Sometimes youtube videos seize up on a slow computer. It is smooth for me and here is a guy that went through frame by frame and add a tone. It is steady.

Okay I am willing to accept that.
My DSL service isn't the greatest, but until I can verify it for myself, well, I just have to maintain some sense of skepticism.

I have no doubt that is real and possible. He would have most likely taken the video down because of the overwhelming response and maybe got a visit from whoever. One thing is for sure, it appears he did what academics have been claiming is impossible - they call it perpetual motion - dumb asses.

Now, Now, people have been working on a magnet motor for nearly 1 thousand years, and it appears that no-one has successfully been able to get one replicated.!!
 ;D

Bedini posted a video of howard johnsons magnetic train.

It only takes one white crow to prove not all crows are black unless your are a programmed academic.

Look what happened to the guy that uploaded video of his flux gate? Google took his account away for figuring out a cool magnet trick.

Video's are so easily manipulated, that you can't just go by a video. There has to be a replication to verify these results.

If it is so surely achievable, then why hasn't Clanzer been able to get his working?

Or how about me? I have tried and mine doesn't work either. I am trying my second newer improved build, with slight modifications to better study robert's vtrack/wheel thing. But, I won't be totally shocked if it doesn't work either.

By the way have you tried replicating this thing yet?
 ;)


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #475 on: January 15, 2011, 02:06:30 PM »
First thing, we can't be sure that no one has made these motors in the past. This whole area of OU has been suppressed throughout centuries and we only have very limited info as to what really happened. On the other hand, makin a working one isn't an easy task, we know that from our own experience. It isn't easy because the excess energy produced is small and can easily be overtaken by the losses such as friction. Besides, most of the researchers trying to reproduce these motors work at substandard conditions, on their own limited budgets and that's an significant factor against successful replication. So, we shouldn't dwell on whether or not it has been made before, I think, but indeed try to put efforts into actually making one. We see it's possible, OU has been definitively proven and all we need is some ingenuity and skills in implementing it.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #476 on: January 15, 2011, 02:06:50 PM »
Now, Now, people have been working on a magnet motor for nearly 1 thousand years, and it appears that no-one has successfully been able to get one replicated.!!  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u3fOwkiM7U

I guess you never heard the name Howard Johnson before?

If it is so surely achievable, then why hasn't Clanzer been able to get his working?

Or how about me? I have tried and mine doesn't work either. I am trying my second newer improved build, with slight modifications to better study robert's vtrack/wheel thing. But, I won't be totally shocked if it doesn't work either.

I hate to break the bad news to you, but you probably can't do brain surgery, put a man in space or that matter make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich but other people do it every day.

If you are challenged by watching TV online perhaps you are not the genius you imagined and are incapable of replicating someone else's genius? Worth consideration.

I'm not a magnet head, more an accelerated electromagnetics head. I find Omnibots experiment interesting.
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #477 on: January 15, 2011, 02:11:46 PM »
First thing, we can't be sure that no one has made these motors in the past. This whole area of OU has been suppressed throughout centuries and we only have very limited info as to what really happened. On the other hand, makin a working one isn't an easy task, we know that from our own experience. It isn't easy because the excess energy produced is small and can easily be overtaken by the losses such as friction. Besides, most of the researchers trying to reproduce these motors work at substandard conditions, on their own limited budgets and that's an significant factor against successful replication. So, we shouldn't dwell on whether or not it has been made before, I think, but indeed try to put efforts into actually making one. We see it's possible, OU has been definitively proven and all we need is some ingenuity and skills in implementing it.

Howard Johnson did it with a roll of tape and a toy train. I noticed you had a roll of tape in your video and a little train track. You are almost there Omnibus, keep trying.

There is a guy that made a magnetic shield for one side of a magnet and it is simple how it works. I wonder how far you would get if you used that instead of a steel ball?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #478 on: January 15, 2011, 04:30:12 PM »
I hate to break the bad news to you, but you probably can't do brain surgery, put a man in space or that matter make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich but other people do it every day.

If you are challenged by watching TV online perhaps you are not the genius you imagined and are incapable of replicating someone else's genius? Worth consideration.


Now I see how this forum works. Simply a bunch of people insulting all the others who actually do experiments, and actually build these machines.

Well Adios everyone, I will continue working on my models, and if I get them working, YOU AIN"T EVER GONNA KNOW!!!

I'm out of here.

Never to post again.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #479 on: January 15, 2011, 05:17:14 PM »
Now I see how this forum works. Simply a bunch of people insulting all the others who actually do experiments, and actually build these machines.

Well Adios everyone, I will continue working on my models, and if I get them working, YOU AIN"T EVER GONNA KNOW!!!

I'm out of here.

Never to post again.

I simply corrected your untruthful statements and stated the facts along with evidence.

1. The magnet motor has been invented and gave you a link to watch it work.

2. Pointed out the logical fallacy that since you can't make it work, it must be fake. That is detrimental to the free energy movement - Plenty of people are doing it.

Hopefully the free energy movement is not doomed to failure without your amazing talents.

Here are two more corrections to your final untruthful statements:

1. I do experiments and have been for 30+ years. If you find the truth insulting, you just proved my point.

2. I don't insult anybody that is working constructively in an open and truthful manner. If someone makes untruthful statements about OU devices, I have something to say about that since I want to see people try and succeed.

I didn't insult you, you insulted yourself. All I did was set the record straight.
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