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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 444746 times)

Offline Omnibus

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #255 on: December 02, 2010, 08:55:43 AM »
I will... Verry soon I will. I will share few ideas...

Please don't share ideas. If you don't have a working self-sustaining device to show and have third parties replicate all else would be useless waste of forum bandwidth.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #256 on: December 02, 2010, 08:57:34 AM »
This is why I was saying ... I will...soon... After I test my ideas, I will share. Or not :)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #257 on: December 02, 2010, 10:16:50 AM »
So, where is the good explanation of the device at hand?
For instance, you know Einstein's "theory" exists in the focus of some mainstream circles and from that you conclude it cannot be wrong.
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Don't demand from others what you yourself are unable to provide, always replacing constructive answers by ad hominem argumentum, even against Einstein.
I understand special relativity, it is not very complicated. If you understood it too, you would recognize Einstein's genius; not a question of academic recognition but of intelligence.
Relativity perfectly explains our observations. If SR was wrong, electromagnetism would also be wrong because both are linked, and mechanics would also be wrong because electromagnetism is fully compatible with mechanics.
The nonsense that you attribute to others is your lack of understanding and your discourse against them personally is that of satisfied and vindictive ignorance.


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #257 on: December 02, 2010, 10:16:50 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #258 on: December 02, 2010, 10:29:48 AM »
Don't demand from others what you yourself are unable to provide, always replacing constructive answers by ad hominem argumentum, even against Einstein.
I understand special relativity, it is not very complicated. If you understood it too, you would recognize Einstein's genius; not a question of academic recognition but of intelligence.
Relativity perfectly explains our observations. If SR was wrong, electromagnetism would also be wrong because both are linked, and mechanics would also be wrong because electromagnetism is fully compatible with mechanics.
The nonsense that you attribute to others is your lack of understanding and your discourse against them personally is that of satisfied and vindictive ignorance.

Restrain from spewing nonsense and don't clog th thread with unrelated stuff and gibberish. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #259 on: December 02, 2010, 12:54:15 PM »
@omnibus

It seems that the idea you have is way better than ours.

Would you be so kind as to esplain it with schematics and graphics?
The whole community will appreciate it very much.

Jesus

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #259 on: December 02, 2010, 12:54:15 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #260 on: December 02, 2010, 01:44:00 PM »
@omnibus

It seems that the idea you have is way better than ours.

Would you be so kind as to esplain it with schematics and graphics?
The whole community will appreciate it very much.

Jesus

All these ideas are basically the same. They are trivial and what's needed is to work on the practical matter of making a demonstrable device. This is what I'm working on right now and I don't think it's necessary to report on every step of my activity. You may have noticed that I post technical details only when it aopears that there's something important to share. So far, as I said, I'm stuck with making the cam properly. The rest is ready (as is usually the case). Will post details when there's a development in this respect.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #261 on: December 02, 2010, 02:12:01 PM »
There is a way to seem that you are doing something and just show words that seem cool as an answer.

But a good schematic or graphic will stir the other inventors mind and can help you with your problem.

Jesus

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #262 on: December 02, 2010, 03:07:10 PM »
Omnibus....my idea is not like all the rest... I am aware that with static magnets you cant get results (ex: Perendev idea). The only way to make magnets work as we want is to syncronize them and mentain an unbalanced system all the time (if possible) or as long possible in order to produce more constructive work than consumed or non-constructive work. I did tested many, many configurations and I can say that only syncronizing the magnets in order to reproduce as long as possible the unbalanced state of the system can generate constructive mechanic work.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #263 on: December 02, 2010, 03:11:08 PM »
Omnibus....my idea is not like all the rest... I am aware that with static magnets you cant get results (ex: Perendev idea). The only way to make magnets work as we want is to syncronize them and mentain an unbalanced system all the time (if possible) or as long possible in order to produce more constructive work than consumed or non-constructive work. I did tested many, many configurations and I can say that only syncronizing the magnets in order to reproduce as long as possible the unbalanced state of the system can generate constructive mechanic work.

Everybody knows that. Where's the model?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #263 on: December 02, 2010, 03:11:08 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #264 on: December 02, 2010, 03:19:16 PM »
There is a way to seem that you are doing something and just show words that seem cool as an answer.

But a good schematic or graphic will stir the other inventors mind and can help you with your problem.

Jesus

Here's a pic of what I've done so far. As you can see the drum is made of a soda can cut with a Dremmel tool and pairs of magnets placed spirally. You can also see the stator magnet. All is self-explanatory, I hope. With a very slight effort the stator magnet is lifted at the right moment and then let go. That done repetitiously causes the drum to turn. The thing that has to be done is to have the turning of the drum invoke that lifting and the hope is that the work for lifting the stator, when everything is positioned right, will be less than the work to overcome the magnetic barrier if there were no lifting. That hope is based on the evident fact that there is an obvious asymmetry between the force of gravity and the magnetic force. Force of gravity falls with the square of distance (it is practically constant in the studied case) while magnetic force falls with the cube of distance. To take advantage of that asymmetry, however, and make a demonstrable device one has to have watchmaking skills and infrastructure and that's what I'm struugling with at this moment.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #265 on: December 02, 2010, 04:15:03 PM »
Hello All,

I'm not sure if this fact has been focused on.

The Larger the Wheel,
                             the more Kinetic Energy can be Stored in the Wheel,
                                                                                      the more Energy would be available for moving the Stator.


Best Regards,
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #265 on: December 02, 2010, 04:15:03 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #266 on: December 02, 2010, 05:09:42 PM »
Omnibus... in my opinion you are on the wrong way if that is your model. About my prototype, wait just a little and you will see it. Everybody will see it.

The Observer... I dont want to be rude, but this is basic physics. Now, my question is... How do you plan to put some energy in your big radius device (and heavy)
in order to have some kinetic energy into the system. This is the challenge...

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #267 on: December 02, 2010, 05:30:28 PM »
Marian,

Yes it is basic physics, but sometimes it's good to say it in plain language.

All I am saying is that a bigger wheel, with more mass will have more energy to move the Stator.
If somebody has mentioned that, then sorry for repeating.

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P.S. The Energy that Moves the Wheel comes from Unpaired Electron Infinite Spin (UEIS) present Ferromagnetics.
        I'm a big fan of  UEIS providing  Free Energy. ;o)~

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #268 on: December 02, 2010, 05:59:13 PM »
The Observer...
In my opinion, the word infinite is wrong understood. In my opinion infinite don't exist. Everything is limited in time and space... I am not sure about god, but all the matter and material things are limited. And also the universe. I also believe perpetum mobile is impossible just because of the meaning...producing energy without energy. First, we must find a place in the universe without energy. And this is not possible...not for us, now...To test perpetum mobile you need a place with zero energy. There are many philosophic theories, I have also mine. If reality will prove I'm wrong, then I will accept the fact and I will reconsider my opinions. This is also available to your electron. :)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #269 on: December 02, 2010, 06:11:17 PM »
Hello All,

I'm not sure if this fact has been focused on.

The Larger the Wheel,
                             the more Kinetic Energy can be Stored in the Wheel,
                                                                                      the more Energy would be available for moving the Stator.


Best Regards,
                     The Observer


While the part about the larger heavier wheel being able to store more energy is true, you left out the most important part of the equation, and that is it also takes a lot more energy to get it spinning in the first place.

Bill

 

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