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Offline marianpiti

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #240 on: November 30, 2010, 10:38:25 PM »
Hehe...I am also the type "do it yourself"... I also have busy week at work... I also have a family... but still... You are way too fast when it comes about doing all this...And improvising a CNC is a big deal...I can't afford for the moment...

Thank you,
Marian


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I have a Rover 620 TI... splendid car...but I cant get parts here in Denmark.... I will ask you when I need some things if you can help with this... I will send the money in advance, to be sure you are not stressed about.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #241 on: November 30, 2010, 10:46:52 PM »
Gyula, you are right... first time, they ask me to have contact with Danish Technologic Institute so the patent application get an OK from them. Problem is that in Denmark is nobody to understand magnetism physics. After 6 months, talking and meeting many scientists on high level, I did descoverd that many dont even understand fully how the electric motor works...One professor (3rd as importance in Denmark) from Aarhus University told me directly after one hour, that the only place in Europe where physicists are well prepared in magnetism is east Europe. Anyway...after I told them that a first prototype was ready but got destroyed because it was very very improvised, but very good to prove that I am not crazy, they accepted my application, but I must build a prototype before one year from applications date. It was a shock for me to discover many things, but this is how it is... And another problem is I am not danish...I am romanian...(not gypsy).
Thank you,
Marian

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #242 on: November 30, 2010, 10:58:14 PM »
Hi marianpiti,

Hopefully in your patent application you cleverly avoided any mention of the possibility to run your motor just by permanent magnets, this would be a red flag for the patent examiners to grant you the patent, unfortunately this is so in many countries.


I did, and you are right....many troubles because of that...Many money thrown on meetings with different so called scientists or specialists.


 Or as the worst case, they could say your application demands top secret treatment for good just due to national/military interest or whatever and you can forget it from that moment to utilize it. I hope this never happens to your application.


They never mention about military secrets. Denmark dont have a real army... just something that looks like.


You mentioned the effect that you never tried with magnets earlier, if it is possible to tell: what else does the effect work with,  besides magnets? I am curious...

It is so simple, that only one look  (from somebody that understand how magnets works) on the drawings or the pictures of the prototype and you will do it...
Actualy, Clanzer will ...he is faster and have a CNC. This is why I am reserved.... Only one hint...all magnets are moving. Not all the same...but they are. Actualy there are 2 solutions... The simple one is with all moving...the best ...is with only few moving...but I am not Clanzer, I dont have a CNC :))



Thanks,  Gyula

Thank you, Marian

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #243 on: November 30, 2010, 11:09:12 PM »
Gyula... 2 more hints...

1. from the bible.... A wheel in a wheel...
2. take a closer look on crop circles ... specially those with circles inside other circles... :)


Thank you
Marian

 

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #244 on: November 30, 2010, 11:13:35 PM »
Marian,

Sorry to hear your "adventures" with 'professors', it must have been a bad feeling for you to directly experience their real knowledge... lol

I hope you will have success in building your setup in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for the hints, I will try to ponder on them.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #245 on: November 30, 2010, 11:24:40 PM »
The prototype is ready, but because of an error (the guy who did the parts in his mini-factory made an error), it does producing torque, but is not rotating...like you pushing the wall... you do a lot of work, but there is no work done because the wall didn't move :)... Anyway...last week I did measure the torque from system and is very good...This week I talked with the guy with CNC (not Clanzer :) ) and he will modify the part with error... with no extra costs... So, I hope next week is ready and does rotate.

Marian

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #246 on: November 30, 2010, 11:49:41 PM »
@CLaNZeR,

You're one of the few researchers in these forums who do actual work at that with great skill and determination. I'd like to say to you once again that I admire you for that. You're setting an example for everyone of us how one can achieve goals against all odds finding fun in addition.

Now, regarding the case at hand. I'm having a great deal of trouble getting the basic setup properly made. Even the making of a right axis turned out not to be a straightforward project let alone a close to adequate cam. As I said earlier, one needs watchmaking precision and that so far has never been the case, the least in what I have done so far. Because of lack of equipment and the specifics of the fine mechanics needed most of the time the models are a crude resemblance of what is needed. This time I'm determined to make it closer to what's right. I'm ready with the drum and the arrangement of the magnets and the next step is to make the cam properly. That darn cam is the stumbling block in all those types of devices. Take Torbay's motor or the ramp of Sjack Abeling machine, for instance. Here there's a precision metal abrasion machine (in another town, unfortunately) and I'll see what I can do this week. If not, will continue that in the states. I'm leaving by the end of this week. Will definitely report back here if there's any development in that important aspect (the making of the cam). I think everyone of us should cooperate and share experience as much as possible so that we can facilitate our activity in making a working OU machine.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #247 on: November 30, 2010, 11:52:36 PM »
@marianpiti,

What do you mean when you say you measured the torque? Do you have an actual working machine, although crude, and now you're just asking that guy to make it more precise?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #248 on: December 01, 2010, 02:41:11 AM »
one excuse after the next usually means bullshit.....but not always..shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #249 on: December 01, 2010, 02:48:01 AM »
if I had a working device I would plaster it all over the internet that way there would be no way of being silenced.............if I ever get my wheel to work the last place I would go would be to the patent office.............the oil barons will kill you.......it's time to get rid of the powers that be.......shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #250 on: December 01, 2010, 06:27:24 AM »
@shylo,

You hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what should be done. The sooner the better.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #251 on: December 01, 2010, 08:08:51 AM »
I do have a device physically producing torque, not rotation, because of a wrong component, builded with wrong dimension... Different parts of the device are driven with belts... In the belts I have arround 35 - 40 kg. force. But is only static force, as long cant rotate. The diameter of the device is 75 cm. Every rotation reinitiate the start point. My first prototype did worked few minutes... but I didnt have time to record on video. It was made with glue and wires, and the magnets was little to strong for this kind of construction...so everything got destroyed. Now...you are saying to put all on internet...I was ready to do it first time, but then everybody will know that there is a guy that builded...and they will deffinitivelly serch for me...Now I am sharing with few close friends (engineers). If a car hit me, they will know everything about. And I still think to put on youtube, but I dont think this will help more than keeping my mouth shot.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #252 on: December 01, 2010, 08:35:30 AM »
And to be honest, I am thinking for some time to get in contact with Clanzer...Now I know he has a CNC, and this is verry important...He can do all alone, not like me. At a moment he will have all details to replicate my idea...actually ideas...I did find 4 methods of using magnets and producing mechanic work. Only 2 of them produce enough. The other 2 just like the V gate, produce too little.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #253 on: December 02, 2010, 04:18:19 AM »
SSOOoo.............
Marion,
Perhaps just share one Idea?,We can build it here!!

   It would be fun!![Lots]

   ?
  Chet

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #254 on: December 02, 2010, 08:35:45 AM »
I will... Verry soon I will. I will share few ideas...

 

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