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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 445277 times)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #225 on: November 29, 2010, 11:20:30 PM »
Complete nonsense.
EDIT: Furthermore; The ramp is also working like a hoist which exchange force with time. It require less force at greater time to roll a 1 ton car up a gentle uphill, but if the end of the hill are suddenly terminated into a steep hill, none are able to keep that car from falling down. SMOTS do the same thing. Using less force but greater time to roll the ball uphill. Where the ramp are terminated, the gravity stright down are a much greater force, and the ball will escape.

It makes absolutely sense.

I fully understand if its hard for you to admit you're wrong, but still denying facts, and base your "facts" on whishful thinking is not better.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #226 on: November 29, 2010, 11:31:17 PM »
EDIT: Furthermore; The ramp is also working like a hoist which exchange force with time. It require less force at greater time to roll a 1 ton car up a gentle uphill, but if the end of the hill are suddenly terminated into a steep hill, none are able to keep that car from falling down. SMOTS do the same thing. Using less force but greater time to roll the ball uphill. Where the ramp are terminated, the gravity stright down are a much greater force, and the ball will escape.

It makes absolutely sense.

Vidar

What the hell is this gibberish all about? There's one more person, posting here from time to time, capable of uttering similar gibberish and how good it would be if threads such as this one can be kept clean from that nonsense. This field of research is in desperate need of bright capable brains, especially of such skilled in making precise devices and not of laborious posters, such as the one above, having no clue what their own posts mean.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2010, 12:16:57 AM »
I know you dont like me, but please stop clogging this thread with nonsense, lies, and offencing language towards me and other people you dont like. It will not help neather you, me, or anyone else. Start watching your language, and allow other people than you alone to determine what is true or not, and what is good ideas or not. You are not in charge here. Have that in mind too.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2010, 12:16:57 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #228 on: November 30, 2010, 12:35:38 AM »
I know you dont like me, but please stop clogging this thread with nonsense, lies, and offencing language towards me and other people you dont like. It will not help neather you, me, or anyone else. Start watching your language, and allow other people than you alone to determine what is true or not, and what is good ideas or not. You are not in charge here. Have that in mind too.

It's not that I don't like you personally. I don't like aggressive nonsense. Especially aggressive nonsense such as the one you and that other individual are spreading which interferes with the discussion, thus making it non-productive. You should not only watch your language but should curb "theorizing" about things you don't understand because in this way you're taking up the space of others who may contribute towards the so much needed positive outcome. That's the reason why gibberish such as yours should be nipped in the bud no matter who's in charge. Enough is enough.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #229 on: November 30, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
Oh please! How would the outcome of this forum become if only dreamers, wishful thinking should rule the discussion?
I'm not stupid, if it's that what you think - even if also I wave dreams and wishes. My last 'theories' in this thread are very trough tested in real life. End of this discussion. Your attitude really makes me sick. I'm out of here - you win....

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #230 on: November 30, 2010, 09:31:00 AM »
What the hell is this gibberish all about? There's one more person, posting here from time to time, capable of uttering similar gibberish and how good it would be if threads such as this one can be kept clean from that nonsense.
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It's not that I don't like you personally. I don't like aggressive nonsense....  You should not only...

"aggressive nonsense" is for you what you don't understand, i.e. more than 80% of the scientific and technical matter on this forum.
You always call "gibberish" good explanations of phenomena, even Einstein's relativity. You ignore and deny the rational and scientific methodology and knowledge. You are unable to oppose by logical, intelligent and constructive argumentation, so your only referential is your satisfied ignorance and your dialog method is personal attacks against people much more relevant than you.
Your aggressive behavior on this forum is a shame.



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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #231 on: November 30, 2010, 09:59:23 AM »
"aggressive nonsense" is for you what you don't understand, i.e. more than 80% of the scientific and technical matter on this forum.
You always call "gibberish" good explanations of phenomena, even Einstein's relativity. You ignore and deny the rational and scientific methodology and knowledge. You are unable to oppose by logical, intelligent and constructive argumentation, so your only referential is your satisfied ignorance and your dialog method is personal attacks against people much more relevant than you.
Your aggressive behavior on this forum is a shame.

So, where is the good explanation of the device at hand?

As far as aggressive behavior goes it is your opportunistic behavior that's aggressive. For instance, you know Einstein's "theory" exists in the focus of some mainstream circles and from that you conclude it cannot be wrong. You have no clue what Einstein's "theory" really is and are impudently pushing your ignorance even in threads that have nothing to do with that "theory" (let alone that, being sheer stupidity it cannot have anything to do with any discussion of scientific matters). This is more than a shame. That's impudence and disruptive behavior discussions such as this need the least. That should stop.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #231 on: November 30, 2010, 09:59:23 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #232 on: November 30, 2010, 12:17:11 PM »
Argument Clinic anyone  ::)  ::)
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #233 on: November 30, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »
Hi to all...
I am new as registered user, but it is not first time reading here.
About the V-gate motor I've seen here, in my opinion it is very well posible to work, with few improvments. I hope soon you all will see a real working all magnet motor based on a different principle. The prototype is almost ready, after many problems. It is not so easy to build something without help. And I repeat, this model you are talking here, with few small modifications will work. I did tryied and it can work. The only problem, it is not generating too much mechanic energy. The V gate is not the optimal solution. There is another way to get more mechanical work from a magnet motor.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #233 on: November 30, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #234 on: November 30, 2010, 04:36:59 PM »
@marianpiti:

Can you give us some details as to what your "better-design" is? If the V-Gate is wrong what is the better way?

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #235 on: November 30, 2010, 06:47:21 PM »
I am not saying that is wrong, only that is not good enough... V-gate has limited power, and that power is pretty small. There is another way...I will not tell yet as long is not public. And I am still waiting my patent... When the prototype is ready ( I hope next week) I will make it public. But, as I can tell you, it is a well known effect, but never tried in my way, never tried with magnets...It took 5 - 6 months to understand. It is simple and well known.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #235 on: November 30, 2010, 06:47:21 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #236 on: November 30, 2010, 09:03:29 PM »
Let me apply some facts about such devices:

The energy that appears to "pop" up from nowhere, are actually the work done by the hand in advance. What most people doesn't know (Or just don't admit), is when releasing the steel ball further away from the ramp, it will repell and go backwards. Everyone who have tried this SMOT ramp knows this well - me included.

Vidar

Hi Vidar

Got to agree with most ramps this is the case when using a magnet and not a steel ball.

But with this V-Ramp you do not get this, check out the first video. The ball and magnet ball both get sucked in.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #237 on: November 30, 2010, 10:14:26 PM »
Clanzer, I was following you on youtube for some time...I have a question: how can you get done so many things ? I have many ideas, but not enough money to do what I want; you can get fast almost everything... are you a millionaire ?
Sorry for been so direct, but your capacity to produce different devices amazed me.
And I really like your English :)

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« Reply #238 on: November 30, 2010, 10:30:21 PM »
Clanzer, I was following you on youtube for some time...I have a question: how can you get done so many things ? I have many ideas, but not enough money to do what I want; you can get fast almost everything... are you a millionaire ?
Sorry for been so direct, but your capacity to produce different devices amazed me.
And I really like your English :)

LOL no I am not a millionaire, I have to work away from home 5 days a week and my money I earn feeds, clothes and pays the bills for 5 of us.

I only get the weekends to play and wish I had more time to spend on this.

It is expensive to pay companies to build you things, so learn how to do it yourself. I could not afford to buy my first CNC machine, so I designed one. Then after lessons learnt, I built my bigger one at a really small cost, compared to what a commercial one would cost.

Lots of people spend their hard earnt money on their hobbies, mine just happens to be a bit unusual LOL.

But as long as it stays fun then I will continue.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #239 on: November 30, 2010, 10:38:16 PM »
Hi marianpiti,

Hopefully in your patent application you cleverly avoided any mention of the possibility to run your motor just by permanent magnets, this would be a red flag for the patent examiners to grant you the patent, unfortunately this is so in many countries. Or as the worst case, they could say your application demands top secret treatment for good just due to national/military interest or whatever and you can forget it from that moment to utilize it. I hope this never happens to your application.
You mentioned the effect that you never tried with magnets earlier, if it is possible to tell: what else does the effect work with,  besides magnets? I am curious... :)

Thanks,  Gyula

 

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