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Author Topic: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33  (Read 464915 times)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #165 on: November 25, 2010, 09:56:53 AM »
For the negative thinkers.
I stated very clearly on the schematic that may be yours work better.

Just dont sit there and criticize my efforts. Present your solution to it.

Jesus
Everyone must take criticism. Both constructive, positive, and negative. Everyone must also be prepared to be questioned. That is what life is all about at the end. Nothing wrong with your efforts, but it must be allowed to question yours and everyone elses ideas. There is no better solutions than yours, because no one has ever made a working device - yet.

Continuing doing like me and many others. DO NOT STOP TRYING :)

Whish you all the best, Jesus!

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #166 on: November 25, 2010, 10:44:39 AM »
Hey Jesus!


Your name JESUS The name above every name, the savior of mankind!

DON'T GIVE UP!.

Your ideas are brilliant ok!

Please share them don't imitate me ok  ;D
 
The problem is the sticky spot ok?, i think we have to review the shielding technique. to lessen the sticky one  8)

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #167 on: November 25, 2010, 10:51:24 AM »
Usless blabber. The device under discussion in this thread may not work but not because of the above reasons.

The device doesn't work because of the given reasons (work done due to a potential difference doesn't depend on the path). You should learn physics, in order to understand these reasons or to be able to give yours.


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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #167 on: November 25, 2010, 10:51:24 AM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #168 on: November 25, 2010, 12:46:42 PM »
Can't we just give up the classic V-gate motor? It will never work - at least not how people this far has done it. Maybe a new way of engineering could give the V-gate more hope?

Vidar

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2010, 06:00:17 PM »
The device doesn't work because of the given reasons (work done due to a potential difference doesn't depend on the path). You should learn physics, in order to understand these reasons or to be able to give yours.

Anyone who is interested in contributions in science should ignore opportunistic people such as you. It was explained more than once why despite the fact that the integral of force over a closed path is zero there can be instances where excess energy is produced. Don't waste people's time with your trivialities and try not to interfere with your gibberish in the important discussions such as this one.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2010, 06:00:17 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #170 on: November 25, 2010, 06:08:07 PM »
These motors are not characterized by being V-gate or anything of that sort. What really characterizes these motors is that in addition to whatever their construction might be there is also feedback. There's also another type of perpetual mobiles whereby work done along a closed path in a given conservative field is assisted by work done by a different type of a conservative field. Without such assistance on the one hand or without feedback on the other hit is impossible to construct a perpetual mobile. Indeed, anyone who tries to do the latter (that is, resorting to complicating more and more the construction using just one field without feedback) should ignore such attempts.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #171 on: November 25, 2010, 06:33:18 PM »
It might be true that in short moments exsess energy are produced, but that energy will be consumed in the next moment somwhere else in the loop. If you try to take out that exsess energy in the right moment, there will not be energy left to complete the loop and the system stops.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #171 on: November 25, 2010, 06:33:18 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #172 on: November 25, 2010, 06:37:39 PM »
These motors are not characterized by being V-gate or anything of that sort. What really characterizes these motors is that in addition to whatever their construction might be there is also feedback. There's also another type of perpetual mobiles whereby work done along a closed path in a given conservative field is assisted by work done by a different type of a conservative field. Without such assistance on the one hand or without feedback on the other hit is impossible to construct a perpetual mobile. Indeed, anyone who tries to do the latter (that is, resorting to complicating more and more the construction using just one field without feedback) should ignore such attempts.
Is this something about two different kinds of conservative fields?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10029.msg265129#msg265129

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #173 on: November 25, 2010, 07:34:14 PM »
It might be true that in short moments exsess energy are produced, but that energy will be consumed in the next moment somwhere else in the loop...
You are exactly right! That is the reason why science uses practical experiments even if theory is known. Thus in this project experiments are needed even more, since nobody here seems to know for sure how to calculate/interpret this machine's potential behavior.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #173 on: November 25, 2010, 07:34:14 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #174 on: November 25, 2010, 07:57:40 PM »
Why is this motor still being discussed when the "inventor" admitted using fakery to Stefan?

To me this is like folks trying to make Mylow's motor work.

The design is interesting but obviously flawed or fakery would not have been required to make it work.  I have built hundreds of various magnet motors, or should I say attempted to build, maybe, and hopefully there is a way to do it but I do not believe this motor is it.

Bill

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #175 on: November 25, 2010, 08:03:52 PM »
Sinning again!

New hope to stir the inventors thinking!
Just make sure the sticky spots never meet at the center.

You can also add the two magnet bars at both ends.
I mean one bar for each rotor.

Jesus

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #175 on: November 25, 2010, 08:03:52 PM »
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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #176 on: November 25, 2010, 09:13:47 PM »
Why is this motor still being discussed when the "inventor" admitted using fakery to Stefan?

To me this is like folks trying to make Mylow's motor work.

The design is interesting but obviously flawed or fakery would not have been required to make it work.  I have built hundreds of various magnet motors, or should I say attempted to build, maybe, and hopefully there is a way to do it but I do not believe this motor is it.

Bill

I think you should've put "admitted" in quotation marks unless you really know how this can be faked with a coil in a shirt, as per @Roobert33's "admission".

I think @ has done a marvelous job. It is obvious he has put exceptional effort to find the right conditions and obviously doesn't want to have confused individuals such as some here in this thread to have anything to do with it. To find the right conditions in this instance is like chasing a black cat in a dark room. I whish I knew a systematic scientific method to determine the exact shape of the ramp and not just rely on a hunch as to what it might be. Right now I need that very much because I'm now ready with the rest of a feedback motor in way similar to @Roober33's save for the drum (mine isn't a V-gate; like I said, it needn't be). Feels extremely promising if there were no problems with making that darn ramp (cam). Same old, same old. We have this same problem in all kinds of seemingly different constructions of gravity and magnetic motors or combinations therefof. @Roober33 has done it and it beats me why he isn't in the mood of sharing. It really beats me why anyone would put so much effors (as @Roobert33 has obviously done) and then disappear. Rob from Texas, I spoke to, also told me has has had this type of motor running but didn't feel like going public with it. The main reason is, I think, they feel it isn't practical enough and they won't be able to cut their utility bills with it that's why they lose interest. How wrong and how sad.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #177 on: November 25, 2010, 09:22:25 PM »
As for Mylow, don't bet your life on his fishing line either. You may be in for a surprise. Way back I was betting my life insisting that there couldn't possibly be anything between Clinton and Monika Lewinsky and a friend of mine warned me that that was too much to bet on unless you've witnessed the whole thing from beginning to end.

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #178 on: November 26, 2010, 02:19:02 AM »
Hi all ...I've been working on this for a long time ,long before I even owned a computer...I was suprised when I searched the web and found this site ....so many people doing the same things I've been trying for years..different perspectives'...different angles'....accumulative knowledge will help find the answer,.....not arguing, who's right, who's wrong...To All throw your ideas' "out there".............could be totally whacked, or might be the answer everybodies been looking for........but sorry to say I'm pretty sure this won't work.....build a totally balanced wheel ....then offset the balance.......tried it still won't work ...a sphere is automatically imbalanced...shylo

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Re: New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33
« Reply #179 on: November 26, 2010, 02:22:46 AM »
Am example using @woopy's version.

 

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