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Author Topic: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea  (Read 30987 times)

Low-Q

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2010, 10:56:36 PM »
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Sorry about the Christmas thing, I guess I was just to excited about the concept of operation in general.
I mean, this has to work! Just take into account the only two things that could possibly prevent it from working.

#1 Magnetic remanence.
Once somethings are magnetized, they tend to want to stay magnetized. There are materials used in shielding that do not remain magnetized and would be a good choice to eliminate this problem.

#2 Surface exposure.
If a stack of washers are exposed to a magnetic field in a parallel direction, they will become magnetized in a common direction and repel from each other. The attraction to the magnet also increases due to a larger exposed area to the magnetic field. But in a continuous band or ring, the increased field area does not increase or change the direction, it can only increase the #1 effect.

This shows that the RING MOTOR or your chain motor or several other motors that employ this concept are GUARANTEED to operate!
Oh, don't be sorry :) I think it was very funny myself ;D I just haven't had time to make a comment to it... (It allways feels wierd when you say something, and everyone suddenly goes silent :o)

Anyway, regarting the latest posts, I suggest I link to my other thread on the subject, if that is OK with you (Not that I'm going to ask for your permission :D)

I put the link here, so everyone can follow our brilliant ideas ;): http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10029.0

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2010, 11:28:05 PM »
Vidar,
Maybe one more drawing please?

I don't understand the Christmas Motor,But I like Lumens enthusiasm,and it seems so simple!

Thanks
Chet
I will make another motor-drawing tomorrow probably. I'll go to bed now. I's late (23:27 local time)
Christmas Motor! LOL ;D

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2010, 09:34:38 AM »
I will make another motor-drawing tomorrow probably. I'll go to bed now. I's late (23:27 local time)
Christmas Motor! LOL ;D
late ? no! It's the beginning of the new day ! Time to think ;) After thinking (3 am :P), I like this Christmas motor ;) Anyway, some femm simulations should be done first.

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2010, 11:12:29 AM »
late ? no! It's the beginning of the new day ! Time to think ;) After thinking (3 am :P), I like this Christmas motor ;) Anyway, some femm simulations should be done first.
If you can make FEMM to simulate a N-pole towards you (3D). Maybe an equivalent setup are possible which is supperted by FEMM (2D)

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2010, 01:24:33 PM »
If you can make FEMM to simulate a N-pole towards you (3D). Maybe an equivalent setup are possible which is supperted by FEMM (2D)
That's exactly what I'm currently thinking of - how to rework it to make it a 2D simulation. Still nothing ;/

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2010, 03:08:15 PM »
You can try this?

Those two grey wheels are actually gears with long teeth, but it was too time consuming to make it in Photoshop.

Idea of operation:
The teeth on the left side are facing equal pole and want to go apart.
The teeth on the right side are facing two poles, and wants to approach.

Vidar

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2010, 04:37:32 PM »
You can try this?

Those two grey wheels are actually gears with long teeth, but it was too time consuming to make it in Photoshop.

Idea of operation:
The teeth on the left side are facing equal pole and want to go apart.
The teeth on the right side are facing two poles, and wants to approach.

Vidar

This reminds me of a no back emf idea I had during my homopolar discoveries.The ferro magnetic disc is what should rotate. Orange parts is stationary current wire.The magnets and blocks are also stationary.

The idea was that as the disc wants to rotate to align with the current wire, the stationary magnets adjust its fields. So it will perpetually try to allign with the current wire but never achieve this state.

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Re: Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2010, 09:36:23 PM »
Did some pictures on the paper - unfortunatelly the oryginal "Christmas motor" has sticky point ;] If you start with the setup as drawn on the first picture and don't touch any of the "wheels", the first "wheel" on top will stop just as it is, and the second "wheel" at the bottom will slightly turn right till one of it's arms rests on (touch) the bottom arm of the first "wheel". That's it. Nothing more will happen :(