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[neptune]

Captain Coler is alleged to have built a device called a Magnetstromapparat, which, using only coils magnets and capacitors could generate up to 12 volts. This was  allegedly investigated by the British Government, and was the subject of a Government report. Has anyone attempted to duplicate this, or know of any duplication? If you go to http://angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/hanscoler.htm  you will see a photo of a replication. The builder obviously went to a lot of trouble. But results are "unknown". Any comments on this?

[neptune]

I am a bit surprised that there has been no interest in this. It occurs to me that this device is the basis for the TPU, and is worthy of further research. Also, it might be easier to start and adjust this thing by feeding a signal from a signal generator at an appropriate frequency.

[c0mster]

@neptune

I tried a replication of the Stromerzeuger.  The information out there is very sketchy. The premise that the electron is a south pole doesn?t seem to conform to physics. Here is a link to a couple videos I did trying to understand the concept. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qII_gsz-7ec  and http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0qBCHjai7Os&NR=1.  I do agree that his experiments and the tpu are one in the same. I am still working on the theory.      

Cam

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Neptune,

I think the reason why you are not getting any big response is not that people here are not interested, it is just that this magnificently built replication of the Coler device does not tell us anything new. The circuit diagram shows exactly the same.

What is needed are data. Without data it is just a pretty picture.

Does anyone know who built this?

Hans von Lieven

[Koen1]

no, but I do know that this company: http://www.magneticpowerinc.com/
apparently has this patent application: http://www.magneticpowerinc.com/pdf/MPI-patentapplication.pdf
which anonymous sources say is strongly related to the Coler devices...
Might be interesting to check out?
Doesn't even look like it's very difficult to replicate...

But as for the Coler devices, no, don't know who built that version.
There's quite some speculation on them, but so far no really succesful replications have been reported... as far as I know.
I think they are in fact more complicated than they seem to be in the descriptions, because the described setup
is quite simple, and should have been easily replicated many times already... My guess is that the description is not
entirely complete, that Coler knew some things from hands-on experience that he didn't actually describe...

[Michelinho]

Hi,

I know this is an old post but I am looking for the English patent translation of the Hans Coler Magnetstromapparat. I have studied the details available on the net and some unsuccessful replications and would like to have a go at it. I have the German patent but my very limited German knowledge is far from enough to make sense of the text and the translation software too crude for such work.

Thanks and take care all,

Michel

[Koen1]

Hi,

I know this is an old post but I am looking for the English patent translation of the Hans Coler Magnetstromapparat. I have studied the details available on the net and some unsuccessful replications and would like to have a go at it. I have the German patent but my very limited German knowledge is far from enough to make sense of the text and the translation software too crude for such work.

Thanks and take care all,

Michel

I suppose the German patent you have is the one with the old German "Reich" stamp on it?
I'm not entirely sure, but I think that is the only patent ever granted since he did his research
during the Reich period.
The only English version I know of are the documents produced by the British intelligence
agency, which is not a patent paper at all, but rather a report of the interrogation and
detailed description of Colers devices. It is said that Coler actually built at least a version
of his Magnetstromapparat for demonstration purposes.

Anway, here is a link to a pdf containing full English descriptions of Colers Magnetstrom-
apparat and his Stromerzeuger: http://www.rexresearch.com/infolios/colerbios.PDF
And here is a zip-file with the same info: http://www.rexresearch.com/zip/coler.zip

I hope this helps?
Are you planning to build a test version?
If so, it would be very interesting to hear how that's going.
Oh, and if so, do keep in mind that when old 1940s texts mention
"permanent magnets", like in this Coler work, they often mean
"permanent" iron magnets, which were quite common before
we started mass producing ferrite, alnico, and neodymium
permanent magnets. Coler seems to use "permanent magnets"
with wires attached to them, which would seem to imply that
the magnets themselves are electrically conductive, and that
seems to imply the magnets were made of iron or alnico,
but certainly not of ferrite. And they didn't have neos yet in his day.
Just some stuff you might want to keep in mind when attempting
replication...

Regards,
Koen

[Steven Dufresne]

@Michel,
Doe the German patent discuss the Magnetstromapparat or the Stromzeuger? If it's the Stromzeuger then I'd be happy to type it into google's translator and make a translation that way. The Stromzeuger is very important to me due to the similarity of the testatika's magnet circuit. Where can I find the patent?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[Michelinho]

! Steven,

The one I am looking for is the Magnetstromapparat, the German patent shows completely different design with shunts and a make/break that are not shown in all the sites I have visited. I have not seen a patent for the Stromzeuger.

I want to try it because I think I may know why it's working and how come the hexagon. I was told that the Magnetstromapparat looks similar to a snowflakes and the magnetic flow should be projected outside of the hexagon and that it would not work with neo so I am making iron magnets to test the theory. I saw one nice reproduction but the guy made it too nice with metal and copper traces all over the board and also he did not use the deflecting magnets in the center of the hexagon.

A software translator won't work, the phrases don't make much sense.

Take care,

Michel

[Michelinho]

More pictures.