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Author Topic: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell  (Read 51347 times)

Offline b_rads

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2011, 09:43:30 PM »
from the looks of this unit you are easy producing about 3 volts and over 225mah well done that some power for home made battery
Thank you - I will monitor these cells and report back.  This is the first time I have used pennies. 

I posted the Penny Cell Construction and should have include the Conduit Cell Construction at the same time. Sorry!
Brad S

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2011, 09:43:30 PM »

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2011, 09:57:01 PM »
have you tried using the conduit for the outside of the unti and carben for a center elctrode seem to me you are very much copying how batterys work also why do you rap the conduit?

when you was talking about haveing very little ampage the way this would be done is by haveing the positive electrode as small as you can for the givern ampage

basicly what i mean is the less electrode they is the less current will flow from the battery this is how they do it with normal batterys

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2011, 10:03:57 PM »
have you tried using the conduit for the outside of the unti and carben for a center elctrode seem to me you are very much copying how batterys work also why do you rap the conduit?
If I am not mistaken, the conduit only has the zinc coating on the outside - I do not mind giving this a try.  I will report tomorrow on that.  My thinking would be if any voltage does show - then it would be the galvanic effect of the steel in the conduit and not the zinc.  Output levels should tell us.  The coffee filter is used to prevent the cathode (carbon) and anode (zinc) from shorting.

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2011, 10:10:27 PM »
If I am not mistaken, the conduit only has the zinc coating on the outside - I do not mind giving this a try.  I will report tomorrow on that.  My thinking would be if any voltage does show - then it would be the galvanic effect of the steel in the conduit and not the zinc.  Output levels should tell us.  The coffee filter is used to prevent the cathode (carbon) and anode (zinc) from shorting.
Hi Brad
Yes you are correct they only galvinize the outside.
Bizzy


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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2011, 10:13:26 PM »
ok that kind of kills that idea
 
i got to say doing reserch brings up some very strange things i wonted to find images of inside a abttery but instead got a page explaining how femal  toys go wrong and how they can be fixed internet strange place

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2011, 10:22:10 PM »
i got to say doing reserch brings up some very strange things i wonted to find images of inside a abttery but instead got a page explaining how femal  toys go wrong and how they can be fixed internet strange place
Way too funny! 
I was searching for images once (Big Mac).  I understand how embarrasing it can be.
HaHa

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2011, 10:23:40 PM »
big mac i dont ethern wont to attemp that search
Way too funny! 
I was searching for images once (Big Mac).  I understand how embarrasing it can be.
HaHa

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Offline dasimpson

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2011, 10:26:50 PM »
im serching images of copper zinc battery and well no new radical ideas as of yet

zinc and copper plates seem to be the most used idea

the idea goes a long way back because of Baghdad-Batteries but when they were about was befor lightbulbs etc so what the hell were they used for

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2011, 09:07:26 PM »
the idea goes a long way back because of Baghdad-Batteries but when they were about was befor lightbulbs etc so what the hell were they used for
Probably using them to power their ipod - ?????

In the for what it's worth catagory
From: www.corrosionist.com
The Area Effect
The relative area of the anode and cathode has a pronounced effect upon the amount of corrosion that occurs due to Galvanic Corrosion. A small anode (the less noble metal, such as aluminium) joined to a large cathode (the more noble metal, such as stainless steel) will result in a high current density on the aluminium, and hence a high rate of corrosion.
In an electrochemical cell, the anode is the site where electrons are produced through the chemical activity of the metal. The anode is the area where metal loss occurs
The cathode in an electrochemical cell is the site where electrons are consumed. For each electron that is produced at an anodic site, an electron must be consumed at a cathodic site.

Q.  In order to have high current, do we overkill on the cathode side of the battery?

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2011, 11:16:01 PM »
i would say they would be best equal but i guess you would have to experement.
 i know from batterys the smaller the cathode the less current the battery will supply but capacity stays the same
 
thats how i understand it anyway

compare to a battery the zinc anode has for more area then the cathoide

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Re: Copper Zinc Tap Water Fuel Cell
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2011, 11:28:09 PM »
thinking about this now i may know why my earth battery and water battery did not do so well i had more copper then zinc now maybe if i had more zinc then copper i may get better results

 

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