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PaulLowrance

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #630 on: September 18, 2009, 06:15:15 PM »
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/

Great speech. We need more people traveling to conferences giving similar speeches? The more people the better. Don't put everything on his shoulders!

Contact Steven Greer and ask him for advice. I know of a lot of inexpensive ways to get a lot of people, unique people, to attend such conferences.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #631 on: October 12, 2009, 04:06:54 AM »
10/10/09 - Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever
 Physicists at Yale University have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current," a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power source. The team used nanoscale cantilevers, an entirely novel approach, to indirectly measure the current through changes in the magnetic force it produces as it flows through the ring. “They’re essentially little floppy diving boards with the rings sitting on top,” said team leader Jack Harris, associate professor of physics and applied physics at Yale. The findings appear in the October 9 issue of Science. The counterintuitive current is the result of a quantum mechanical effect that influences how electrons travel through metals, and arises from the same kind of motion that allows the electrons inside an atom to orbit the nucleus forever. “These are ordinary, non-superconducting metal rings, which we typically think of as resistors,” Harris said. “Yet these currents will flow forever, even in the absence of an applied voltage.” - Source
http://www.physorg.com/news174222765.html

10/10/09 - Researchers Develop a Penny-Sized Nuclear Battery
 Researchers have begun developing a tiny nuclear battery the size of a penny that could provide power in a smaller, lighter, and more efficient package. Most people probably think of nuclear power that involves fission and the splitting of atoms. But nuclear power can also come from the natural radioactive decay of isotopes such as plutonium-238 -- a much gentler process that has powered nuclear generators aboard spacecraft such as NASA's Cassini probe. "The radioisotope battery can provide power density that is six orders of magnitude higher than chemical batteries," said Jae Kwon, an electrical and computer engineer at the University of Missouri. Kwon and colleagues want to miniaturize such batteries to power micro-devices and nanotech systems. The batteries won't pose any fission-related threats, but engineers do face a challenge in preventing the radioactive decay from damaging sensitive parts of the batteries. "The critical part of using a radioactive battery is that when you harvest the energy, part of the radiation energy can damage the lattice structure of the solid semiconductor," Kwon noted. The researchers hope to get around that problem by using a liquid semiconductor rather than a solid semiconductor. Eventually they also want to boost battery power, shrink its size, and eventually end up with a battery thinner than a human hair. - Source
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2009-10/scientists-develop-penny-sized-nuclear-battery


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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #632 on: October 12, 2009, 02:19:50 PM »
The persistent current could be a major breakthrough in conventional physics. So how much current is it? For years I keep meauring this DC current constant in everything from diodes to piezos that's ~ 10 pA. The current is always higher initially, but settles down to ~ 10 pA. Piezos initial current can be in the micro amps, but settles to this mysterious current of roughly 10 pA.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #633 on: October 12, 2009, 04:31:29 PM »
@Paul,
  Your work is being validated.  Do you have any thoughts on how to concentrate such natural currents to get useable amount of work?

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #634 on: October 12, 2009, 05:21:26 PM »
@Paul,
  Your work is being validated.  Do you have any thoughts on how to concentrate such natural currents to get useable amount of work?

Hi,

IMO there's a good chance this source of energy is what a lot of scientists discovered, such as Tesla, caused by an electric field. It seems just pure DC is not the way to go, since for some reason the current so far always decays to ~ 10 pA regardless how large the device is or what material it's made of. Although, after the device rests for a period of time, the initial current is higher than. A thin piezo element is a few micro amps. Maybe the secret is to switch the load on, off, on, off, etc.

The reason the current is so low in piezo is because of it's high resistance. Piezos & diodes have an intense internal electric field. Diodes with higher resistance, Ro, have a higher internal electric field. Experiments show that diodes with higher resistance produce more voltage.

If we used a man-made electric field (e.g., Tesla's devices), then we could use materials with low resistance, such as Graphite, and maybe this would produce a lot of current. The electric field itself is not in the circuit, as it's used only to produce an electric field. What might be happening is that there is a flow of unknown substance that slowly builds up between the electric field, and this flow can drag the electrons with it.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #635 on: October 12, 2009, 08:47:55 PM »
I did not want to mention some ongoing experiments just yet, but since I don't have the money to make a good version, it's time to show it -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/12/high-voltage-experiments/

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #636 on: October 12, 2009, 09:21:21 PM »
Nice work Paul.  Very impressed with your experiments.  You've essentially shown that this can be done with any conductive material.

We've still got the issue of minimal power generation, but it looks like you've cracked the code on tapping what appears to be an endless power supply (although we can't get much yet).

Mentally I'm thinking about how do we focus as much of this energy as possible to get some usable watts.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #637 on: October 12, 2009, 11:47:35 PM »
Usable power would be nice. The best so far per thin shielded piezo element is a flash of an LED one or two times per day.  :'(

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #638 on: October 15, 2009, 04:01:40 PM »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #639 on: October 20, 2009, 03:17:24 PM »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #640 on: October 20, 2009, 03:30:01 PM »
I hereby name the electrical current obtained from Diodes/Piezos the "Paul Lowrance Effect".

Great research Paul!  Really appreciate the updates.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #641 on: October 20, 2009, 03:44:08 PM »
Thanks! It's an ancient idea. Back in the ... what, 1950's they did a bunch of theoretical work on diodes, but their diode models had so many holes it was like Swiss cheese. We can say that now because we know a lot more about diodes than in the 50's. Anyway, it doesn't matter because it appears the produced DC current & voltage is not due to Johnson noise rectification.

I'm telling you, there is something weird going on in our society. Some kind of freakish control. LOL, have the Martians infiltrated us.  ;)

I recall handing my professor in Electronics class a copy of the Bruce DePalma report, and the look he gave me was priceless. It was not a look of, "You're crazy."  It was not a look of, "Give me a break."  It was a look of, "We should not be reading this!"

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #642 on: October 20, 2009, 03:52:29 PM »
If anyone knows a EE or physicist, then maybe they would be interested in replicating this. The diode or piezo cost less than $2. A small thick Hammond diecast Aluminum chassis is ~ $7.

EE's & physicists have replicated the claim. It's real! The voltage levels are high enough. Now for the final goal of getting the current high enough.

The only person that has verified my claim, so far, and willing to say it publicly is Tom Valone, but then again he's no a skeptic. The other scientists are (or were) skeptics, but they have everything to lose by going public. They want to be 100.0000000% certain this is real.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #643 on: October 21, 2009, 04:57:15 PM »
10 picoAmps?

Had you considered that the piezo works in reverse.  When it gets sound vibrations it generates a voltage and current.  Try exposing the piezo to loud sound and see if the current goes up...

In a Project Camelot interview Dr. Arthur Neumann (Henry Deacon) talked of a small crystal device that continuously generated direct current via the Casimir Effect.  I think that this has been revisited time and again through out the 20th century.  Henry Moray and Tesla were doing it in the early part of the 20th century.  Their knowledge got passed around and various other country's researchers got involved, in secret of course.  Then we see the technologies emerging in the late 20th century with Arthur Summera's Electrinium document.  Then there is John Hutchison's work with a random mix crystal cell.  There are a lot of people chasing this little crystal.

I think you need a very well organized compound (several elements) crystal to achieve this effect with a usable current and standard voltage (like 1.5 Volts).  It will probably need something akin to semiconductor quality crystals which need to be grown in a special high temperature environment.  But, once you get the process down, and go into mass production, despite the high front end expenses, you could make a mountain of money with a product like this.  Permanent Batteries?  Everybody is going to want them, and a lot of them...


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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #644 on: October 21, 2009, 09:10:45 PM »
The only person I'm aware of that *might* know the actual secret to getting the current up would be Marcus Reid. John Hutchison seems to take more of an Intuitive approach, but IMO Intuition without concrete logic is inefficient. So Hutchison  probably has some good chemical recipes to make good batteries that never die, but how much power do his batteries produce? A few milli amps? We need a lot more, at least 0.1 amps, no?

So what I'm trying to do is understand the secret behind the 10pA mystery. The shielded piezos produce plenty of voltage, over 3 volts. It's DC current that's lacking. My first experimental stab at going beyond the 10pA DC limit is to place sufficient inductance between each shielded piezo element. The reason for doing so gets into theory, so I won't bore anyone with theory right now, but basically the inductance is to isolate the Thermal noise between elements. If this works, then a possible solution for the Electret batteries that Hutchison & Marcus make could be to add some good magnetic powder to the mix (e.g., Fe) with the Electret power mix. The powered Iron would help isolate thermal noise between a lot of the microscopic Electret particles.

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