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Drannom

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #405 on: August 13, 2008, 11:40:57 AM »
Shouldn't this be in the "electricity from air" topic somewhere? ;)


Koen1, may be from there, where all your inputs were just like air !

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5172.msg119648.html#msg119648

many topics are missleaded, do not believe what somebody say, we are not alone here, illuminati take care of this forum with many agents

here i have been attacked like never before, just by sending a PM to Koen1 !

take care of you and reconsider everythings

i am leaving this thread again to study electrinium.pdf

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #406 on: August 13, 2008, 01:57:25 PM »
Koen1, may be from there, where all your inputs were just like air !
Well although I guess that is one of your best poems ever,
it makes no sense. Like many of your statements.

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many topics are missleaded,
What's that? Miss Unleaded's sister or something? :D just kidding ;)
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do not believe what somebody say,
Alright, I'll take your advice and not believe what you say. Lol ;)
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we are not alone here, illuminati take care of this forum with many agents
Ah, yes, of course. It's the illuminati that run the world, and we're just hanging on
for the ride and allowing ourselves to be deceived, and whenever we can't make
things stick then obviously the conclusion must be that it's the Illuminati's fault,
and never a flaw on our own part...
I didn't see it that clearly before, but those extremely convincing arguments of yours
cannot be wrong.
LOL ;D

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here i have been attacked like never before, just by sending a PM to Koen1 !
Well if that was really the worst "attack" ever, then you must not have experienced much in your
life so far...
And you also convieniently forgot to mention that I did not start out "attacking" you,
but rather that you started accusing me of spreading false information when that was not
at all the case, and you wanted to speak in secret because you claimed others
wanted to keep the truth hidden or some crap like that...
It is obvious that you cannot claim some moral high ground and accuse others of being
secretive and hiding things, while at the same time you try to keep things secret yourself.
That is like saying "I hate people who hate." It is internally contradictory.
And even worse, you accused me of disinformation not because you had any good reasons
for it, but because you simply did not like what I said. You never showed to have actually
studied any of the related scientific fields, you chose to adopt a hypothesis that was never
proven and of which zero prototypes have been developed in the past couple of decades,
and when I told you in a very elaborate and sincire response why I think that hypothesis
is flawed, you never tried to prove me wrong on any of the actual empirically determined
scientific points, but instead you started shouting "you're a disinfo illuminati reptilian agent"
and more such nonsense.

That is pure false logic and if you don't see that then you're even farther from reality than
I thought you were.
Stick with your pyramid power nonsense if you must...
But consider this: pyramids and Illuminati are like cows and grass, the one is never far from
the other. And since you have a very clear and steady fascination with pyramids as well
as Illuminati, the most simple conclusion is that you are yourself an Illuminati with a
pyramid fixation!
Bet you never realised that, did you? And I bet you're going to throw a fit now in reply, right?

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i am leaving this thread again to study electrinium.pdf
By all means do, but don't forget to study some actual materials science too...
Study the actual scientific properties of elements and their atoms, not some
fantasy "frequency as mass/diameter ratio" that nobody uses. Study crystal
structures of conductors and semiconductors and especially their internal
electron exchange. Study that, and you shall see it does not appear to accord
with the Electrinium hypothesis at all. Perhaps then you'll finally understand
what I tried to explain to you long ago.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #407 on: August 14, 2008, 05:45:16 AM »
Ah, I get it.  Koen 1 is a member of the illuminati.  This makes total sense now.  (Ha ha!!)  This explains all of his hard work, experimentation as well as his help to other experimenters.  This is just exactly what they would do, just to fool us.
Actually, truth be told, I have reason to believe Koen1 is actually Hutchison posting under a false identity just to through us off the correct course.  I would post more but my UFO is here to pick me up again to perform more medical experiments on me. If only they had a dental plan.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #408 on: August 14, 2008, 08:16:37 AM »
Has anyone did any research on this electrinium battery?

 I read the PDF file that Summera was said to have wrote. Some things made sense where as others were to far fetched to believe. It would be interesting to research this more.

 Does anyone have any info on Tesla?s work in regards to this?

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #409 on: August 14, 2008, 08:27:25 AM »
g'day all,

Damn, now I'm really confused.  ;D ;D ;D
Anyway Bill can you give me a ride in your ufo, or am I talking to Tesla ? ;D

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #410 on: August 15, 2008, 02:33:09 AM »
Thanks,Sutra and Abba Rue for that circuit design,if you read the comments (98 of them)posted to that video,not everyone was able to make it work.Some said it did and one said to make it to 40 volts with bigger capacitors(one farad 48 volt).I believe that this circuit can use the output of any stone battery,increase it to useable levels.
So it is useful to this thread.Happy experimenting All!!! Be Careful!!!Triffid

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #411 on: August 15, 2008, 02:46:02 AM »
Sutra,I have been impressed with your efforts here to make a stone battery.I wish more people were like you.Experiment more.Practice lab safety always in the kitchen and the garage.Wear safety glasses.Triffid

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #412 on: August 15, 2008, 03:07:59 AM »
Koen1 i am doing all this to promote electrinium.pdf, now i have reach that goal, and like DClarkson, Jeanna, nightlife, Topgun, many more members will read this text, you were just in my way, see you objectivly in others topics !

Central Sun give power to all blacks hole shining super light, this super light is transform by our sun, our sun is not nuclear power, then any atoms and molecules get power from super light each second, we are in an ocean of energy, and electinium explain in a simple way all of this

i am not enough good to talk the details , but i am better in understanding than writing

sorry for the mess, this topic should aslo consider military diode, Hutchison began with them ! good clue !

bye

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #413 on: August 15, 2008, 02:10:59 PM »
Koen1 i am doing all this to promote electrinium.pdf,
Great. But instead of spreading the Electrinium gospel that you have decided to believe in blindly,
why do you not try to actually understand material physics?
And why do you feel you must fill this Crystal Cell thread with that Electrinium stuff?
We, the people in this thread who actually do experiments and try to build crystal cells,
have actually studied the Electrinium hypothesis and found it not in accordance
with just about everything known about electrodynamics in solids, or at least not in the
manner described in that pdf. If there were any evidence of it being a valid theory, then
that evidence is well hidden for we have not been able to dig it up. If you do have any
evidence that there is validity to the hypothesis, then please give us weblinks to that.
But I know you don't have that kind of evidence, you just "want to believe" very much.

You may of course "spread the Electrinium gospel" if you like, but please stop trying
to force it on people in this thread, ok? We have read it, and it does not fit into our approach.
For that matter, I still seriously doubt there is any validity to it at all, and not in the least
because the author of that pdf claims to be very close to producing a prototype in the
last parts of the text, yet in the past 20+ years no such Electrinium battery has surfaced
ever, so I get the strong feeling he made it and it didn't work, and he dropped the entire thing.

If you have any good reason to believe it is valid, such as tangiable evidence of the authors
prototype in working order, then of course I will have to admit I was wrong. But so far
there is no indication whatsoever of such a prototype ever having been built nor of it functioning
like the pdf states. If you just want to repeat "read Electrinium.pdf!" over and over again,
please start an Electrinium thread of your own so you don't mess up our crystal cell thread
which, just in case you hadn't noticed it, is not about Electrinium batteries but about Crystal Cells.

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now i have reach that goal, and like DClarkson, Jeanna, nightlife, Topgun, many more members will read this text, you were just in my way, see you objectivly in others topics !
Dude, that doesn't make sense. I was "just in your way"? In your way of spreading a pdf that has been floating around in OU circles for over 20 years?
And you decided you were going to play the Electrinium prophet just because you felt like it? And you decided messing up someones thread over it,
without being able to counter the arguments you provoked, and following it up by accusing that person of being an illuminati reptilian disinfo agent,
was the correct and civil thing to do?
Jeez man, do you really think people aren't smart enough to dig that pdf up themselves? Do you really think they need you to preach it to them?
Well do what you must, but keep it out of our Crystal cell thread please?

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Central Sun give power to all blacks hole shining super light, this super light is transform by our sun, our sun is not nuclear power, then any atoms and molecules get power from super light each second, we are in an ocean of energy, and electinium explain in a simple way all of this
And that is exactly what I meant with "new age quasi-religious pseudo-scientific mumbojumbo". Central suns, black holes shining super light, sure. Have another mushroom won't you? ;) (kidding)
You see, although that sounds like an interesting alternative theory, it is not really supported by any evidence. And it doesn't "connect with" established scientific theories either... so we can't "link in" to for example electrodynamics with it, or at least not in this form, perhaps if some renormalisation were applied...

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i am not enough good to talk the details , but i am better in understanding than writing
hmm well that may be an explanation as to why your insistant posts on Electrinium don't seem to make much sense at all...
... but it could also be that you believe you understand it better than you really do. And that could also be the reason why
you can't explain it well. ... ?
I think things are not so simple as mere harmonic resonance of atoms with some mysterious AC field emitted by our sun,
I believe quantum electrodynamics and material physics on the level of atomic crystal lettices and their electron exchange patterns
are more along the path to follow, and if you study those subjects you will quickly find it is more complex than such a simplified
model as the one used in the Electrinium theory. And it just so happens that science agrees with this, and not with the Electrinium hypothesis.

You know what, if you understand the Electrinium hypothesis so well, and you are so convinced it works, then why don't you build
a simple Electrinium battery and show me how wrong I was?
Build one, even the simple version you suggested using carbon and iron will do, as long as it produces a certain voltage at a certain amperage
and does not run out, you will have succeeded and I will admit there may be something to the electrinium theory after all.
I may even come to visit you to do some measurements and take some pictures of it, if you manage to build one and will allow me to do so.
But untill you do some hands-on work trying to build one, if you only keep shouting that you believe in the hypothesis, you are not convincing anyone.

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sorry for the mess,
's alright, apology accepted ;)
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this topic should aslo consider military diode, Hutchison began with them ! good clue !
We did discuss the Germanium diodes. Not too much of a clue though. Fortunately we were able to
dig up quite a bit more info than the vague remarks like that one.
We know quite a bit about Hutchisons cells now. And about the related research.
But Hutchison is too busy with his new friend Paris Hilton at the moment to do much research,
and he never was very communicative...
And he seems totally unwilling to share his info with other inventors out of fear of them "stealing" the invention.
Not that he's doing anything with them, but he still refuses to tell people how to make them...

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #414 on: August 15, 2008, 05:14:31 PM »
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I still seriously doubt there is any validity to it at all, and not in the least
because the author of that pdf claims to be very close to producing a prototype in the
last parts of the text, yet in the past 20+ years no such Electrinium battery has surfaced
ever, so I get the strong feeling he made it and it didn't work, and he dropped the entire thing.

Koen1, I could have swore that the author had been found dead at a airport long term parking area?

 We also do have some who claim to have such a battery but they have not reveled what they are made of.

 John does say that his are made of mixtures of intricate crystals.

 I believe MPI claims to have a battery that never needs to charged.

 Based on your comment stating your doubt, you must not have checked the "validity" for yourself. I think it is worth checking out unless we can find a replicable person to say they have and found it not to be as it is said to be.
 This information is not off topic and it does pertain to this thread as well as others like it. It is said to be a crystal that holds and or attracts electricity and that can be used for what we are looking for provided it is what has been stated to be.

 I personally am going to continue to research this crystal and possibly experiment with it.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #415 on: August 15, 2008, 07:59:10 PM »
I've read every post since page 1. Great work guys, however there is soooo much more that you and H are missing....
Yes, this works.....
http://www.geocities.com/athens/olympus/6581/egypt.html

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #416 on: August 17, 2008, 04:03:28 AM »
I have heard that the ark of the covenant was based on an earlier egyptian design
that Moses was privy to as a member of the ruling class.I have heard too that the ark is a capacitor.Since sand is a dielectric Maybe "raiders of the lost ark" was not totally lying to us when they showed us dust (or sand) in the bottom of the ark?Just thinking out loud here.I still have not found a dielectric value for sand,but water has a value about 80.I would think sand have a value higher than that (maybe about 300).
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #417 on: August 17, 2008, 04:35:54 AM »
Sorry,I really don't know what the dielectric value of sand is but the dielectric constant of Strontiun Titanate is 310. I figure that something similar exists somewhere.triffid

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #418 on: August 17, 2008, 01:32:09 PM »
I looked up some dielectric values.That chemical I mentioned is a ceramic and some of those can reach 30,000. Sand might be around 4.2.Still better than glass(1.0).Add water and the value shoots up to 80.0.So instead of just sand holding 2000 volts.Maybe sand and water can hold over 100,000 volts?Just thinking out loud here.triffid

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #419 on: August 18, 2008, 12:09:43 PM »
That is what i was talking about, 

black hole and super light!

there is other links on that,  i found only that one

 http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/11/milewski_describes_magnetoelec.html

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SuperLight is described as the opposite and complementary phase to ordinary light. While electromagnetic radiation - visible light is part of its spectrum - has a strong electric and a weaker magnetic component, in magneto-electric radiation the magnetic component outweighs its electric counterpart.
Milewski proposes a model which sees magneto-electric radiation as the source of gravity, emitted by black holes and traveling at the square of the speed of light. SuperLight has a correspondingly shorter wavelength and higher energy content than ordinary light and is the source of the energy of life, which makes for its connection to the area of healing through increased coherence in organisms.
While physics has tended to exclude life and consciousness from its equations we now have - with Milewski's model - a very real possibility to reach unification with meta-physics, generally considered the purview of faith and religion.

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Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto?electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape.
The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight ? a Dynamic Ether.

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and much more at the link


i think that the Central Sun give power to all black holes !

 to read electrinium go there, (click right to download)

 http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/electrinium.pdf

it explain how Central Sun give power to all atoms and molecules

and when i was talking about military diode (i am still repeating) i didn't mean germanium diode, it's a secret military diode that we can find only i some military devices, thoses diodes are like mini electrinium, Hutchison found them at the beginning, not in germanium not in silicium, in something else

if someone have old military device just test a military diode to see if there is some current going out from them

i do not answer to Koen1, it will be another lost of time, just read electrinium and you will see why