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Author Topic: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison  (Read 524005 times)

dimbulb

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #960 on: June 24, 2011, 01:52:19 AM »
thanks kelvin and pirate,
amazing how close the thread got to the real ingredients.
I am wondering if these can be run in parallel ?
I thought he said running in series  need to keep them even
that is the voltages equal.
if in series connecting 20 and doing a dc to dc step down
is one way to get current.

nightlife

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #961 on: June 24, 2011, 03:10:47 AM »
 This is the break we have been looking for. I'm off to lab. Great things to come.

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #962 on: June 24, 2011, 03:53:53 AM »
I'm only to pleased to help out with anything i see on the subject, i found Johns new YouTube site a few months ago and have been watching for a video that might tantalize or hint on the mixture in the cells he makes but was blown away when he just came out with it.

i myself am going to try some long thin copper tubes as cells, am eager to try different lengths of copper pipe with galvanized wire centre as in this case being the cathode, i think the copper outer pipe will naturally become the anode,   

ian middleton

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #963 on: June 26, 2011, 05:41:09 AM »
G'day all.

I can't seem to get the youtube to work. Can someone please throw me a list of ingredients JH uses.

regards Ian.

ian middleton

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #964 on: June 26, 2011, 03:17:25 PM »
G'day all, again.

I finally got the video up. Certainly takes acting to a new level anyway. I don't think JH has done his cred any favours but hey he was kind enough to share his methods.

There was not alot in there we didn't already know so I think for most of the "cell builders" here, it will be case of fine tuning what we already have. The calcium carbonate seems to be one of the ingredients in the Marcus Reid cells only he used it in the form of Calcite. Same stuff.

Anyway good luck guys, but remember don't expect Amps out of these things.

Cya all soon.

Kind regards  Ian.

nightlife

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #965 on: June 26, 2011, 05:18:30 PM »
 You have to remember that the smaller they are, the more powerful they are.
 There is still much testing needed to be done but atleast we are on the right path now.

dimbulb

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #966 on: June 27, 2011, 07:00:22 PM »
The JH video can actually show how much silver and galena to add by using a nail file and steady pressure
has anyone confirmed that smaller is more powerful?
Could it be that as the size increases beyond a point there are diminishing returns.

I cannot help but think the two surface areas or electrodes don't need to be cylinders.
It might be easier to use small rectangular foils sandwiched in layers ? 

While the mixture is cooling the voltage is applied followed by another layer and so on
finally wrapping in tape.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 07:27:43 PM by dimbulb »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #967 on: July 05, 2011, 04:44:57 PM »
Hi all I haven't managed to get all the ingredients for the power cell yet but still trying, when i do get it all ready i have been thinking of adding germanium 

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #968 on: July 10, 2011, 02:47:03 AM »
G'day all, back again.
Well am I hoping my stints in hospital are now over, May was a writeoff with 9 days straight on a drip. Anyway for the forseeable future I'm back in production.
I managed to get myself a stone tumbler which I've turned into a Ball mill. Best thing ever.
Just load up your ingredients and let it go for an hour and you are left with completely mixed micron sized powder. And yes it makes better cells.

You will see from the photos that I have made what I call a Test strip.  It's just 2 electrodes side by side and about 2mm apart. The later strips were glue gunned instead of using tape. The good thing about these are you only have to melt a small amout of your mix, saves resources. And now my mixes are a fine even powder this is easy to do.

Now bearing in mind these are only testers and will not produce the same power as a full blown battery but will give you an instant idea of how well your mix will work. The strip in the photo gave 0.938V and happily chugged along at 120uA.

It's interesting to note that JH uses a 2 to 1 ratio of  epsom salts to rochelle salts. I have used for a long time a ratio of 1.74 to 1. JH reads this forum so lets see if he can work out why. Anyway thanks once again John for going "open source", feel free to drop in and talk to us sometime, you would be more than welcome.

Back to biz. I have always been a fan of Marcus Reids cells. He predominately concentrated on a base matrix of sodium silicate. The silicate was doped with some semiconductor material, there are lots to choose from. Now that I have obtained some germanium I intend to use some of that.

The cell I did make however contained all the usual stuff. RS, EP, silicate, pyrites ect.
In addition I added 25% by weight Calcite. Calcite is nothing more than another form of Calcium carbonate. On top of all that I threw in 5% by weight Bismuth.
This cell performed extremely well. 0.93V and put out 1mA for 24hrs. Now it powering the watch. Note however that the voltage drops to 0.25V with a 1Kohm load. It stays at that point indefinately. 0.25/1000 = 250uA.

Now thanks to my automatic grinding system this has allowed me to make many more cells with different mixes. Most of us here already have basic crystal batteries. Some , like mind are over 7 years old and still showing signs of life. My original Pyrite cell will just not die. So I went back over my old notes to see if there were any mixes that I could now "fine tune".

I'm in the process of doing that now and as we speak I've made up 7 test strips of various mixes and currently testing. Things are looking good.
I'll be back with the results shortly.

Cya later
Regards  Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #969 on: July 10, 2011, 02:50:17 AM »
Oops, forgot the test strips.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #970 on: July 10, 2011, 04:30:47 PM »
Ok back for POWER CELLS! nice your back and taking this to next level for free energy.

NickZ

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #971 on: July 11, 2011, 01:57:57 AM »
   Guys:
   For those that can't get or don't want to use chemicals, magnetic ovens etz... I have made this cell out of an old capacitor cell with nothing more than beach sand and cement.  It output 55mA at 1.4 volts when first made and has been powering a red led for months with the help of a totally dead lithium battery that it charged to 1.5 volts using both together can light an led.  Although after 4 months it has lose 1/2 the current and some voltage it still outputs 30mA and 1.2 volts.  24/7. 
The other beer can cells output even more...

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #972 on: July 11, 2011, 04:58:17 AM »
the problem is you're dealing with kilowatts or megawatts you are dealing in milliwatts. very puny results.

NickZ

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #973 on: July 11, 2011, 05:34:34 AM »
   These are small low cost practically free cells that give permanent light.  Not stadium lights, bud.  Nobody is trying to convince you to make them. It is for people that are interested in them,  like myself. Just showing what I've done, so far,  sorry it doesn't output megawatts. What does???

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #974 on: July 11, 2011, 09:10:16 AM »
G'day aii,

Good work NickZ, cement has been a long time favourite of mine too . Have you checked out the earlier posts? How much moisture content do you think is left in your battery?

@ onthecuttingedge, what area of research or interest have you been involved with? We may not be powering the world with these things but they are fascinating nonetheless. Puny output or not, some of these batteries never run out.


Kind regards  Ian