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Author Topic: Ed Gray's Magic Tube  (Read 50095 times)

wings

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2014, 07:54:05 AM »
may be interesting Aron Mukarami motor test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nxsoze9CZ9E

AlienGrey

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2017, 12:52:46 AM »
If any one is interested.
I did find an interesting old video that goes much deeper on this subject concerning
how to generate drive to the tube in question as Tesla reports in one of his reports
that he could not attain zero point energy from his Tesla coil.

please feel free to comment if any one is interested

regards AG

tinman

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2017, 03:18:02 PM »
If any one is interested.
I did find an interesting old video that goes much deeper on this subject concerning
how to generate drive to the tube in question as Tesla reports in one of his reports
that he could not attain zero point energy from his Tesla coil.

please feel free to comment if any one is interested

regards AG

AG

Do you have a clear schematic for the tube driver circuit,and the tube it self.


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forest

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2017, 03:56:16 PM »
So? Where is that video ?  ???


Belfior

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2017, 01:37:19 PM »
Have you read Lindemann's book on free energy and cold electricity?

http://www.teslasociety.ch/info/NTV_2011/free.pdf

I think he explains Tesla's disruptive discharge quite well and says that Gray's invention is just mirroring that. When the 50-100us impulse is fed through the spark gap a longitudinal wave propagates perpendicular to the current. This means it will hit the grid surfaces. Tesla said this would change the "voltage only" pulse to manifest as charge on metal surfaces.

I'm just wondering how big the voltage must the for this supercharging effect to manifest? Is the gap enough to keep the impulse unidirectional pulse train? Add high voltage diode maybe?

tinman

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2017, 01:50:17 PM »
Have you read Lindemann's book on free energy and cold electricity?

http://www.teslasociety.ch/info/NTV_2011/free.pdf

I think he explains Tesla's disruptive discharge quite well and says that Gray's invention is just mirroring that. When the 50-100us impulse is fed through the spark gap a longitudinal wave propagates perpendicular to the current. This means it will hit the grid surfaces. Tesla said this would change the "voltage only" pulse to manifest as charge on metal surfaces.

I'm just wondering how big the voltage must the for this supercharging effect to manifest? Is the gap enough to keep the impulse unidirectional pulse train? Add high voltage diode maybe?

It is truly amazing that Peter has all this info about free energy machine's,and yet,has not been able to build a single device.


Brad

Belfior

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 02:06:33 PM »
It is truly amazing that Peter has all this info about free energy machine's,and yet,has not been able to build a single device.


Brad

Yeah I do give him credit for a long career in the field of free energy, but he is just showcasing plasma injection systems in every youtube video. If Gray's machine is so simple, then where the fuck is the replica?

He has not even put out a simple schematic on how to produce these Tesla's unidirectional impulses. If they are so simple to produce we should have DIY kits all over the place

forest

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 11:15:34 PM »
It's sad how the internet is full of crap yet the most important topics are hidden under the mystic statements like unidirectional pulse :-(

TinselKoala

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2017, 03:36:48 AM »
Actually it's not that hard to understand, or mystical. The "secret" is to arrange your L, C and R values such that all the power in the impulse is dropped into the load (the "R") in exactly the first one-half-cycle of the impulse (critical damping). This is to distinguish it from the underdamped High-Q case where a long ringdown of many cycles occurs, in which a little power is dropped into the load on each cycle until it is all dissipated over a long time. And also to distinguish it from the overdamped case in which a lot of power is dissipated and wasted in less than a half-cycle and the voltage never rises to a decent peak.
The critically damped case is considered unidirectional (DC) because all the action happens in the first half-cycle and no voltage or current reversal happens.
The disruptive discharge of Tesla's patents is so intense that much care must be taken in constructing the transformer to prevent internal breakdown. Somewhere on my shelf I have detailed instructions for building such a disruptive discharge transformer. It's a lot of trouble, much harder than making an ordinary Tesla coil (which is a high-Q, underdamped, quarter wave air-core resonator operating in HV AC RF mode). While the underlying principles are the same, the actual implementation of the disruptive discharge device in hardware is quite different.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/images/oscda12.gif

Low-Q

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2017, 12:42:28 PM »
sort of, watch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib0nViW9z70

enjoy
Which pixel is the speaker? Not to mention the text presented, LOL ;D

AlienGrey

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2017, 03:33:25 PM »
Mr Tinsel  what does Linderman say Tesla said, so where does this fit and whats wrong before we do any experimentation  ( in exactly the first one-half-cycle of the impulse (critical damping). As far as i see it the 2nd half is ZERO.
perhaps they should all Watch the video's again !

You a clever man and an experimenter, have you tried to produce 'cold electricity' ?
out of your pile of video's can you point me to one that does ?

Also have you tied to produce 'pulse EHT DC with out the next cycle wiping out any back emf ?
again can you show me the video and any info you have on the phenomena.

And the third experiment is striping the 'electrons' and just leaving whatever is left have you tried
to reproduce that experiment ?

Also any chance you can share this with me 'please'
The disruptive discharge of Tesla's patents is so intense that much care must be taken in constructing the transformer to prevent internal breakdown. Somewhere on my shelf I have detailed instructions for building such a disruptive discharge transformer. It's a lot of trouble, much harder than making an ordinary Tesla coil (which is a high-Q, underdamped, quarter wave air-core resonator operating in HV AC RF mode). While the underlying principles are the same, the actual implementation of the disruptive discharge device in hardware is quite different.

YES! ;D

All the best AG

Ps any chance we can solve this problem before America destroys the planet ? ;)


Belfior

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Re: Ed Gray's Magic Tube
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2017, 03:52:33 PM »

Ps any chance we can solve this problem before America destroys the planet ? ;)


Well it is not just America, but all the industrial powers that think that production, consuming and profits is the way to go and all this nonsense about pollution is just hippies that smoked too much. You can ask people in Delhi if they would like a clean energy source...