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Author Topic: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona  (Read 102416 times)

Cisco

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« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 02:34:59 AM by hartiberlin »

Cloxxki

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 12:21:23 AM »
I so hope they managed it. Seems pretty straightforward also. Could it be...?
Insane mileage from water. I would accept tanking water at quadruple rate of pertrol, but they are claiming outragous numbers. I can't grasp it.

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 02:27:53 AM »
Yes, maybe the dimensions of the electrolyser are critical;
Perhaps they will sell this as a kit.

It does have designs in common with this Peter Davey "Bell" Heater Web Link;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4083.0

And CF cold fusion energy tends to align it's energy output with the
hosting chemical process, which in this case is making HHO rather
than heat. All this stuff tends to work in common.

This means the PWM power supply is indeed depositing phonons.

:S:MarkSCoffman

e2matrix

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 03:13:45 AM »
Looks good if they are being straight with us.  They say they want to share the tech at this point.  Is there any info out there on their circuit?  It looks like most of it is fairly common plumbing parts and fairly easily obtainable parts.  The web site pics show a good amount of info other than the electronics of the PWM device.  They must be running some pretty expensive Mosfets to handle they current they are generating.  It does also sound like resonance in involved and important.  I wonder if they have issues with hydrogen embrittlement or at least I've heard that is a problem with engines running HHO. 

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 08:57:18 AM »
When I read the use of a resonant frequency I laughed - OF COURSE they are using resonance! I am coming to the conclusion its one of the secrets to over unity devices. I'm convinced Tesla knew it.

The images on the site are really good quality - hopefully someone here has the resources and knowledge to attempt a replication.

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broli

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 05:52:37 PM »
I think all the needed info to replicate it can be found here:

http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/products

e2matrix

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 08:55:40 PM »
I think all the needed info to replicate it can be found here:

http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/products

The primary thing lacking there is info on the PWM circuit.  Info on it and duty cycle and a schematic would be good to have.  I did write to them requesting this but have not heard back yet. 

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 10:33:28 PM »
The primary thing lacking there is info on the PWM circuit.  Info on it and duty cycle and a schematic would be good to have.  I did write to them requesting this but have not heard back yet.

Yeah some info on that would be nice but I don't expect it to be too complex but expensive like a high current PWM from an EV. I find it strange though it's or just called a pulse width modulator. The question is, to what is this being modulated? If it operates on resonance or w/e wouldn't only one frequency be used? But I guess you need to adjust it to find that specific frequency hence the modulation?

And correct me if I'm wrong but these guys are doing something very rare for meyer research. That is using very high currents at high frequencies. While most of the people who built a stan meyer type fuel cell relied mostly on high voltages at high frequency.

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 10:50:59 PM »
They shared everything it is just that it is difficult to see.
The PWM can be bought already made.

Jesus

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 03:03:36 AM »

e2matrix

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 05:28:46 AM »
They shared everything it is just that it is difficult to see.
The PWM can be bought already made.

Jesus

Jesus,  do you know where one might find a PWM controller like theirs?  I think I remember hearing them talk in a video about MOSFets so I assumed they had built their own controller.  I didn't see anywhere on their site they were selling anything yet.  What appears to be the controller from the pictures looks a lot like a dual fan computer power supply.  I thought they may have used the case from a power supply to keep components handling all that current cool.  I still haven't heard anything from the email I sent them. 

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2010, 06:21:49 AM »
This is excerpted from the original Pure Energy Systems News article on the same topic by Michael Couch, August 10. It is part of the Q & A with Frederick Wells:

"4. What is this controller that you are using?
 
At the present time we are using a simple DC motor controller with a few modifications for frequency and the addition of several more mosfet transistors in the driving stage.

5. Did you make it yourself or is it available commercially? If so, where can it be found?

The unit unmodified is sold on eBay [PWM Pulse Width Modulator 55A HHO Hydrogen Generator] from Arizona Video, and the parts for modification were purchased from a local electronic distributor."


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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2010, 04:02:28 PM »
Jesus,  do you know where one might find a PWM controller like theirs?  I think I remember hearing them talk in a video about MOSFets so I assumed they had built their own controller.  I didn't see anywhere on their site they were selling anything yet.  What appears to be the controller from the pictures looks a lot like a dual fan computer power supply.  I thought they may have used the case from a power supply to keep components handling all that current cool.  I still haven't heard anything from the email I sent them.

What I did was to write a search on ebay.  You can search for dc motor driver or PWM or pulse modulator etc.
May be the one you find is not the same.

Mine says "Mikro-kits Mspc-1xx series" on the pc board.

Jesus

e2matrix

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Re: Truck claimed to run on 100% HHO in Prescott, Arizona
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 06:29:13 PM »
Thanks guys for all the info on the PWM controller.  That narrows it down a lot.  I haven't been very active in HHO stuff but am getting interested.  I'm guessing they added a couple high current mosfets to handle a bit higher current.  That one at musclecars.net does look like the one in the back of the Dodge truck.