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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2010, 11:45:36 PM »
None of you guys have seen a real working overunity device. That's 100% sure.
And why should we read back on your post Bolt if you really know the secret of OU.
Just compile your knowledge, post it, build the device, let it be tested....or shut up lying.
You're a fine example of the typical free energy fanatic saying they "know" for sure it works and
claim they've "seen" overunity in action....but never produce any evidence or replicable blueprints.

If you so sure, then show us the money or continue your life as a mad free energy lunatic.
Don't get me wrong here. I would really love to see or build a working OU device.
That's one of my goals in life, but I don't go around fooling myself into lies.
Please Bolt, have an open mind when you run into claims without proof what so ever.

Btw, the chinese need their NdFebs for regular basis, like turbines, industrial needs, Ecars and so on.

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2010, 11:45:36 PM »

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2010, 11:51:49 PM »
Now you are in my infoturf:
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf

Giantkiller Is this KUNEL PATENT enoth to make a few kW of power generation? Is this patten similar to the Richard Willis patten that bolt just mentioned

Bolt, I would think most people would prefer a solid state. less moving parts usually means less energy lost to friction and less parts to replace with time.  Has anybody built one of there solid state models and put some instructions up on the web for our benefit :)


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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2010, 11:56:01 PM »
...
  Take a 250 watt light bulb and in series fit a capacitor and inductor selected so the i/p power is power factor ZERO.  The watts consumed and measured by any suitable test method will show leakage power around 3 watts when i did this. The 250 watt light is FULLY LIT.  The volts drop across the bulb is about 12 volts. The bulb works underwater perfectly fully lit. The power factor is virtually zero creates standing wave the bulb is powered by zero point energy for FREE.

its the basis for many many OU systems.

Hi Bolt,

Please allow me to play a layman's role for a moment... Do you not need here a mains transformer because earlier with the 500W bulb you included it here in the other thread:

You want proof? Fine take a normal transformer and load the O/p with a large series choke and a cap. Tune the inductor and or cap to create a perfect out of phase condition. The i/p power is almost zero amps apart from some leakage. Now put a 500 Watt lamp in series and the lamp will light. Re-tune the LC to correct for lamp impedance. The 500 watt lamp is now fully lit. THe volts drop accross the bulb is under 12 volts yet this is a 240 volt bulb.

The i/p watts is leakage in practice maybe 3 watts. The bulb is fully lit! HOW??? this experiment done hundreds of times. RE will power the bulb under standing wave condition. A standing wave condition is a Scaler Wave. The bulb work under water and you wont get a shock.  Tuning is a real pig you might have to spend half hour getting tuning perfect even moving  the lamp wire will knock it off tune but it works.

What you are seeing if you do this is Radiant Energy powers the bulb at Zero Point Nodes its the key to all these circuits. All they are doing is creating VARS yes even Bedini is power factor correcting the RE charge going into the battery.


I ask as a layman:
1) the setup needs or does not need a mains transformer? 

2) What secondary voltage should have on the transformer if I use one?

3) If I  monitor Power Factor at the primary coil of the transformer do I aim for zero or one PF by doing the LC tuning?

Please answer.

Respectfully
Gyula

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2010, 12:13:41 AM »
Hi Bolt,

Please allow me to play a layman's role for a moment... Do you not need here a mains transformer because earlier with the 500W bulb you included it here in the other thread:

You want proof? Fine take a normal transformer and load the O/p with a large series choke and a cap. Tune the inductor and or cap to create a perfect out of phase condition. The i/p power is almost zero amps apart from some leakage. Now put a 500 Watt lamp in series and the lamp will light. Re-tune the LC to correct for lamp impedance. The 500 watt lamp is now fully lit. THe volts drop accross the bulb is under 12 volts yet this is a 240 volt bulb.

The i/p watts is leakage in practice maybe 3 watts. The bulb is fully lit! HOW??? this experiment done hundreds of times. RE will power the bulb under standing wave condition. A standing wave condition is a Scaler Wave. The bulb work under water and you wont get a shock.  Tuning is a real pig you might have to spend half hour getting tuning perfect even moving  the lamp wire will knock it off tune but it works.

What you are seeing if you do this is Radiant Energy powers the bulb at Zero Point Nodes its the key to all these circuits. All they are doing is creating VARS yes even Bedini is power factor correcting the RE charge going into the battery.


I ask as a layman:
1) the setup needs or does not need a mains transformer? 

2) What secondary voltage should have on the transformer if I use one?

3) If I  monitor Power Factor at the primary coil of the transformer do I aim for zero or one PF by doing the LC tuning?

Please answer.

Respectfully
Gyula

Its easier with a transformer because you can use the inductance of it to help slash the power factor to zero. On the i/p mains side you are looking at PF as close to 1 as this is the REAL watts. In practice its around 2 or 3 watts. If you use a Power Savers meter some actually show PF volts watts amps etc very cheap now.

The secondary of the traffo is part of the RLC loop this is where the PF = Zero or if you are RF trained the VSWR  =~ Infinity.  You need another traffo as series inductor and lots of motor run caps and tuning its REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. If you sneeze it will go off tune i cant emphasize this enough otherwise people will say i tried it and it don't work LOL

You don't have to use a transformer on the i/p but i think it helps the tuning as it becomes part of the overall RLC circuit. If you do use a big one like 100VA+ Big things always tune easier. If you play with tiny wheezy toroidal cores its hard to get the tuning right.

The reason is RLC leads to OU where PF = ZERO creates scaler wave conditions under resonance. Radiant Energy enters system at NODES as electricity has nothing to do with electrons. Electrons are only a byproduct of waste.  Thats why they call it Electron Theory and not electron FACT... or the Electron LAW:)

OH BTW you can use almost any size bulb here. I know some have used 1000 watt light bulbs the i/p watts was about  EIGHT watts. To be honest i used a halogen flood light this was YEARS ago i don't remember if it was 250 or 500.


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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2010, 12:19:31 AM »
Ok, thanks.  One more thing what secondary voltage should the transformer have if I were to use a mains transformer at the input? 6-10V? 10-24V? higher?


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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2010, 12:19:31 AM »
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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2010, 12:24:29 AM »
Ok, thanks.  One more thing what secondary voltage should the transformer have if I were to use a mains transformer at the input? 6-10V? 10-24V? higher?

Try a 120/240 or 120/120 or  240/110 isolation transformers.

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2010, 05:03:35 AM »
@ gyulasun

Thanks Gyula for asking bolt the right questions.

@ bolt

Thanks for being straight forward on your replies to our questions.

Could we open a new thread for this experiment?  I would like to continue a conversation on tuning the circuit and other questions about the circuit there if you please.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2010, 01:04:05 PM »
@ gyulasun

Thanks Gyula for asking bolt the right questions.

@ bolt

Thanks for being straight forward on your replies to our questions.

Could we open a new thread for this experiment?  I would like to continue a conversation on tuning the circuit and other questions about the circuit there if you please.

Regards,
Paul

I was here to answer what i know about magnacoaster and explain his current situation and let others know the technology works. But as usual Trolls, drifters and saboteurs, drift past and try to tell ME that RE is all a pipe dream so i gave one example of many to think about. Anyone want more then read back through some of my posts.

So no sorry i don't want to start a new thread dealing with stuff i did over 10+ years but you can if you wish.

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2010, 01:23:07 PM »
Hi Bolt. Just ignore trolls, they are everywhere.

I have some questions if you don't mind?
1) Is the LC circuit on the output, series connected or parallel connected with the transformer?
    But I do think you mean in series?

2) In your LC circuit, do you say there is no inflow of current at the 110VAC input to the transformer
    when tuned correctly while the lamp being fully lit?

3) How do you measure the voltage and current into the lamp?
    I'd use a series current shunt with the lamp and then measure the voltage across both the
    shunt and across the lamp by a two channel scope. Lamp wattage = Volt times current.

4) Have you performed this type of measurement to exclude power errors?

I hope you find some time to answer my questions?  ;D
It would be most valuable to all of us.

I was here to answer what i know about magnacoaster and explain his current situation and let others know the technology works. But as usual Trolls, drifters and saboteurs, drift past and try to tell ME that RE is all a pipe dream so i gave one example of many to think about. Anyone want more then read back through some of my posts.

So no sorry i don't want to start a new thread dealing with stuff i did over 10+ years but you can if you wish.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 01:57:12 PM by Honk »

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2010, 01:53:20 PM »
So you're saying if I put a transformer and an LC circuit in series with my load I could slash power by a factor of 100. Would this also work on electric water boilers  :P .

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2010, 02:00:09 PM »
Hi Bolt. Just ignore trolls, there are everywhere.

I have some questions if you don't mind?
1) Is the LC circuit on the output series connected or parallel connected with the transformer?
    But I do think you mean series?

SERIES...AND USE AN RLC ONLINE CALCULATOR TO GET VALUES CLOSE FOR L AND C'S TO MAKE RESONANCE TANK


2) In your LC circuit, do you say there is no inflow of current at the 110VAC input to the transformer
    when tuned correctly while the lamp being fully lit?

CORRECT THE REAL WATTS POWERING THE CIRCUIT IS USUALLY UNDER 5 WATTS.

3) How do you measure the voltage and current into the lamp?
    I'd use a series current shunt with the lamp and then measure the voltage across both the
    shunt and across the lamp by a two channel scope. Lamp wattage = Volt times current.

NO YOU CAN DO THAT  YOU CANT MEASURE RE DIRECTLY AS IT COMES FROM OUTSIDE ITS AN AMBIENT RESOURCE YOU CAN MEASURE THE VOLT ACROSS THE BULB THOUGH WHEN IT FULLY LIT AND WILL BE AROUND 12 VOLTS. ITS IMPORTANT THAT ANY R IN THE CIRCUIT IS EXTREMELY SMALL SO YOU DONT GO PUTTING SHUNT IN OR YOU KILL IT. THE REACTIVE AMPS WILL BE EXTREMELY HIGH IF THE BULB IS DROPPING 12 VOLTS AT 250 WATT THE AMPS = 20.8 AMPS. A 1000W BULB WILL DROP AROUND 18 VOLTS AND 52 AMPS!!!!!!!!

4) Have you performed this type of measurement to exclude power errors?

UP TO YOU TO CONVINCE YOURSELF YOU ARE NOT DREAMING WHEN YOU SEE A 250 WATT LAMP FULLY LIT RUNNING ON 3 WATTS. ALSO THE LIGHT IS A HAZY BLUE WHEN POWERED BY RADIANT ENERGY.

I hope you find some time to answer my questions?  ;D
It would be most valuable to all of us.

NOT ANSWERING ANY MORE ON THIS NOW DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2010, 05:24:04 PM »
NOT ANSWERING ANY MORE ON THIS NOW DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

You sound strangely angry Bolt.... could it be that your claim is not OU.
Why research? If you really had anything real going, you wouldn't need others to build it.
You could just as easily build it yourself and let it be independently tested.
If it was overunity you would get financial backing in a minute to develop it further.
I'm 100% sure you are wrong about the LC device, it's simply a measurement error
due ignorance in electronic physics and how to perform accurate testing.
 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 10:03:25 PM by FatChance!!! »


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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2010, 02:32:02 AM »
@Fat Chance;

I think the problem is not lack of availability of devices showing
Overunity Energy, but severe lack of knowledge by the folks when
They try to prove or use the extra energy.  I can easily list seven areas of
knowledge required to build a “balance beam” system that doesn’t require any
instrumentation or calculation during demonstration of OU.  Easily done on you-
tube. I don’t think I have ever seen it done correctly. I don’t think the majority
of people have those areas down pat enough to demonstrate or even know
whether they have overunity or not. So it’s a near universal lack of knowledge
problem.

Even if ZPE explanations are all completely bogus there are several
“not very utilized” energy sources that could be utilized that are OU simply
because they are not thought about. A number of energy systems cannot
be looped because of implicit inefficiencies in Carnot cycle heat engines
and photovoltaic implicit inefficiencies wipe out energy gains when in a
loop.

How many Bedini systems have never automatically swapped a battery?
Nearly 100%. How many spiral magnetic motors using pulses to get
across the sticky spot have ever listed the pulse energy required to
do so. nearly 0%...See..This is what I am talking about. You can't
expect proof, just general storied validations.

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2010, 02:54:21 AM »
On bolt system; Is it overunity? It's hard to say.
The light probably is not coming from the filament
the way it's supposed to but rather a glowing plasma
inside the bulb's near-vacuum. The high voltage excursions
of high Q LC resonance are capacitive coupled into the bulb so
the bulb would likely not have it's usually 95% inefficient
heat to light ratio, which is why incandescents need to be
gotten rid of. Of course there is no such thing as radiant
energy, just standard stuff.

Then on the input side I would like to see the system powered
by a 12VDC inverter of measured inefficiency so I could
see non-pulsed 12VDC power measurements which is the
*only* one most inexpensive DVM's can make.

It maybe somewhat overunity because of the free electrons the
high voltage pulses attract from the environment. I doubt
that it's enough to operate a 20% efficient photocell converter.
And I doubt it generating proper heat to do anything with.

You just have to know what you are looking at, is all.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Magnacoaster - Vorktex
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2010, 12:29:59 AM »
is anybody else have an interest in replicating this patten(on a small scale. maybe 500W)?   I need a recommendation on magnet sizes are these desirable

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DX0X0-N52&cat=168         

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