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Title: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 26, 2010, 05:45:22 AM
@all

Ed Leedskalnin Was talking about looking to the east , in his book Magnetic current . That is the first thing he mentions.

I you think about it a bit , and also keep in mind that he made spelling errors knowingly ... that should be enough to start imagining hidden message .

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This writing is lined up so when you read it you look to the East,  and all the description you will read about magnetic current, it will be just as good for your electricity .
I original copy of the book is hard to come by , i wonder why.

That is the first thing ...

Now what is this about the east ...

Freemason's have the same notion of the east , even the temples are built respecting it , the is some thing here ... ????


But thinking about it , brings me to what happen to a compass in a very weak field , i made a magnet out of a 4 foot piece of steel rod the field is very week in the middle , the compass is blind at this point and is 90 degrees off ... north hum east ...

Now you guys , know motors how can you make a motor with the poles facing away from the coil , basically trying to push it where there is no resistance no north no south , i am clue less but this can't be done ...

Poles should be more active even to a point of generating heat , why are they located there , even the sun is off half of the year ...

Its official this suggest that i am now clinically crazy , but beginning to think we don't know anything ...

Mark   

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 26, 2010, 06:57:27 AM
@all'

Now i got use to the idea , what if the poles really are like motor , physic has to agree at some point there , when would north be ...

With earth tilt and all could it be a triangle shaped ...

 :o what am i saying here ... could the moon be still because it 90 degrees of axe .

Mark

I just love to see that anything can be twisted or untwisted , enjoy those simple argument and crazy argument for what they are.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 26, 2010, 06:57:47 AM
What ed is saying here is not a riddle. he means quite litterally, Look to the East.
He is trying to convey a message here. The source of the knowledge. The original transcriptions that were passed down, generation, after generation from those who learned it from an ancient civilization.

He speaks of Egypt.

Everything he teaches us here is written on their walls.
Ed was the reason i taught myself how to translate several  heiroglyphic languages. and what i found was that this knowledge did not belong to the egyptians themselves, and even they did not know how to use most of it. it was passed down, generation after generation: originating from an even older civilization than them. One that is only spoken about as legend.

The egyptians knew about electricity and magnetism, and used it for two main purposes.
One: to manipulate gravity
and Two: as a weapon, which at the time, was seen as one of great power.

You must first understand, that the egyptian culture was based around the belief that their kings were "gods". These gods were the keepers of knowledge. This knowledge was their "power".
So when they wrote about these things, they were not written like our science books. But more as a set of instructions, of how to "use" the power of the gods. The didnt need to understand how it worked, as it was the gods that made it work. they only needed to know how to use it. So what you find is instructions of how to create the tools to use it. precise dimensions, materials, shapes.

This is why when the knowledge of the weapon was transcribed into the "bible", it is only there as a set of dimensions, weights, materials.
But it is exactly as the egyptians wrote it, word for word, thousands of years earlier. This weapon was used by the army of the "gods" to defeat their enemies. It is essentially, what we would refer to as a "capacitor". only much, much larger.

But the kings had a deeper understanding of universal principles, of the material world, than we do today. This was not given to the masses of the egyptian people, and is only found in certain places, within the inner confines of some of the pyramids.

The magnetic field, wether it be from a "lodestone", or even from the atomic structure itself, was seen as a helix. Two serpents, intertwined. 

Ed gives a much better description of this when he talks of the "tiny magnets". But the egyptians describe it in a very similar way, just in a different context.
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There was a time in history, when all of Europe, west of GB, was in utter chaos. Borders were being reshapen, people were displaced. Thousands of imigrants took refuge in vatican city.
It was during this time, that the library of the vatican was open to most of the public. and while, they kept many of their books secret, as they still do today: certain people were given access to the library. Teslas father was one of these people, and the small ammount of knowledge he brought out with him, enabled his son to reshape the future of mankind.

Eds family also traveled there, before comming to our country.
And i believe this is where they learned many of the egyptian secrets that church stole. (during the same time when they removed the outermost layer from the pyramids, rendering them electrically inert.)

It is written that the pyramids are alligned with certain objects in the cosmos, to draw in the power of the "gods". I believe this to mean, that they are alligned in such a way that the sun (and the ionosphere) would charge them electrically. This energy was channelled down into the capacitors, and used to lift stones, weighing several tons, sometimes hundreds of tons. Only a few inches, but this had an effect of making them "weigh" very little.

This is what Ed did.

He built a castle out of sandstone blocks, weighing 15-20 tons, little old man, by himself, without any cranes, or machines.

Then when he moved, he picked it all up by himself, loaded it into his pickup truck and moved it several miles to the north, and rebuilt it.

by himself.

If you haven't been there, you should go and see the massive size of these rocks he moved.  The gate/door weighs 8 tons, and was mounted on the axle of his old truck, when it broke down and he took it apart to salvage its pieces. The original door was mounted so precisely, it is said that a small child could swing it open with their pinky finger.

It was remounted many years later, and they could not do as good of a job.
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as far as the "hidden message",. this was suggested by others as well.  however, i have studied them thoroughly, and keep copies of all his texts. I cannot find any hidden pattern in them. Scotty didnt know anything about it either, and i consider him to be one of the most knowledgable "ed" scholars around.

As far as i can tell, Ed was very open, and honest in everything he wrote. And there is much to be learned from all of his writings.
[ yes, even the crazy book where he gets all obsessive, racist, and goes off the deep end....]

I would suggest to anyone that wants to learn about the true nature of electricity and magnetism, to sit down with his book on the subject, and perform Eds experiments. step by step.
There are things in there that you wont find in any textbook on the subject. He even teaches you to disprove einsteins theory of relativity. (sorry steven), This was done by an IBM lab in Atlanta, Ga. in the late 90's, but they were unable to discern how it was occuring, and ultimately abandoned the project after losing the effect alltogether.  Ed shows you how to do this, so simply that even a child can cause electricity to break the speed of light, but not through any wires. You essentially create a magnetic-void in the air-space between two terminals.

We set the experiment up in the lab and it does in fact send a signal at FTL speeds. But there was no real way to "use" it, because there are problems with timing an event that occurs before the event that triggers it.. if that makes any sense...
at least when it concerns computer operations, which was what we were trying to use it for.

Ed teaches many things. But the one secret i was chasing after, still evades me. That was the one he didnt share, and was only written about in the tomb of Khufu. unfortunately a great deal of the glyphs were destroyed over time, and their meaning is lost.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 26, 2010, 07:15:30 AM
@smoky

Didn't you use to wright on the code144 forum ?

I do agree with that but he mentions the line are aliened so this seem to be a bit more ...

Just think how would that work , lets say the earth is a motor the stator is the sun and the rotor is earth , then you got the moon plausibly use as a stationary magnet and the pyramid like a coil and a cap , it makes even sense there ... Remember Ed was quite the in astrology too and built a sun quite interesting sun dial and claimed he could prove everyone was wrong ..


Mark     
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 26, 2010, 09:35:17 AM
@smoky

Look they said , he never advertised and never turned away anyone , but he had a really big arrow pointing at his castle ...

He did speak of knowing the secret of the pyramid .
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 26, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1307JgGPM4M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eglERwoKbzU

There are coincidences and that are very interesting .

There is a video of one guy that found a key , look at the key it look familiar ?

Rodin found the same thing , and did the Germans isn't it a vw sign .

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: giantkiller on July 26, 2010, 11:05:29 PM
He did the same thing I did at the park with the lines and questions.
That key overlays the park along the north wall which is the transit path of Jupiter.

http://dnet.viawest.net/users/paul/

The obtuse angle of the Hawaiin island chain is on the same latitude as the Bermuda island. If one spins the planet to align the early leg of the Hawaiin chain to line up with the angle of the secondary leg as it sits now then that puts Bermuda very far north.
Follow the direction of the first leg of the chain and it crosses directly over Stonehenge. That would also make Stonehenge a eqitorial, skyward facing portal.
I have spent alot of time spinning the universe, orbits and planets around to get different perspectives in my reverse engineering Coral castle. Ed was looking farther than just Homestead. I suggest many do the same...
Look at the heavenly bodies as thought there is no time and no travel boundaries, like a member on a planetary engineering team.
The Gulf of Mexico is a very large hole.

Spin everything as a Teseract Rubik's cube or live the fanatsy that you are standing on solid ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue6cpHfdDU4
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 27, 2010, 06:28:49 AM
@ MK1

i dont know what the code144 is,.
this site here ( and clanzers british version) are the only two forums ive posted on.

that guy in the video is a little hard to follow,. maybe its because he isnt saying much, but its apparent that he has a lot flowing through his head...  What is that triangle-piece? Where did it come from? It looks eerily similar to an object sometimes depicted in the hands of Ra (predating the symbolism of the ankh)

I assume when you said Rodin, you meant the sculptor?
   im not familiar with this triangle piece in his works. i thought he just did mostly  'people'.... heads, busts, hands, full bodies.. ect.

do you have a link to that guy's website? he says in the video that his site tells how he decoded ed's books.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 27, 2010, 06:50:27 AM
@smoky

Ok there was a forum once names code144 it was 100 % ED research group i did my bit back then before coming here .

Yes the guy seems overwhelm by his discovery , he may be on to something the first 2 paragraph of magnetic current , is definitively suggesting that the location and orientation is important , from his stand point east is the Bermuda triangle .

You will see those 2 paragraph at the beginning of the video , 2 things come to my mind Ed was a genius for doing so and he did trick like than all the time , second reediting the book could potentially destroy the evidence unless you have a original copy .

That being said a old book by a nobody even a great sculptor like Ed would not regularly be republished , but it did several time therefore no one need the original ...

Ed had a secret he tried to patent it , and dearly regretted it ... the government was on to him .


Now Rodin like Marko Rodin he invented the rodin coil based on a equation he was given to solve , by a mystic group .

Look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKrFH-tVFmw&feature=related  to get the idea


I good one for you King Tut’s DNA is Western European?

http://www.disclose.tv/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redicecreations.com%2Farticle.php%3Fid%3D11846
   

i Almost forgot the world grid that is what Ed was looking at ...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 27, 2010, 07:23:23 AM
i had never even fathomed this line of thinking...

i always had assumed, when Ed was refering to the speciality of his locale, he meant because of the equatorial magnetic lines.
they are more discrete than when nearer the poles.

ok, after watching the rest of that guys videos, i am thoroughly convinced that he is completely out of his gorde....
i see now how he came up with that symbol, but as far as "why" or "what" it might mean......  i think hes the only one that knows that, and he didnt exactly "say" much about it..
hes just babling on, re-reading the first couple paragraphs dozens of times, and playing connect the dots with the words.
My favorite part is when he writes the N/S/E/W on the edges, TURNS the paper, thn re-writes them in the other way,. turns it AGAIN, and does the same thing/...  i about fell out of my chair!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 04:09:57 AM
@smoky

Just think about early Christians they used symbols to to make there hiding spot for all the others to see , still even if simple and easy to crack i worked .
The question is why , just think about religious symbols you know what they are , only because you learned about them .

Freemason is a religion , and they also have religious symbols , yet when you see them you are clues less , because no one showed you those .

But they are all over , you know most of them , but blind to its meaning ...

If you know , then you are a fan of governmental and corporate logos.

Did you look at marko rodin , i have found another version of the drawing

The key guy now , i don't think that dismissing everything someone says because in your judgment he said something stupid would equate dismissing 99.99999999 of the planet so ...

Not everyone can resume weeks of work in 20 min , and expect not looking lost in front of a camera or many people .

My problem is only that he showed the same symbol that the masson use there only easy recognizable one with the G , the sign is like a vw sign it is also a modified 8 or eternity sign , its a totally closed loop , i bet you do that and kick it it will do the same thing Ed's holder was doing .

Most people automatically want it out , it need to stay a closed loop that way the energy stay in the core , now kicking that stored energy around in the core should generate current if you ad a secondary to the core.

And the drawing shows also where to put the other wires in a pyramid shape , now do it need to be align to work , that is a great question .
And would really explain so many failed experiment and un replicable results . Stalling progress at the same time .

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 05:42:02 AM
@all

What do these two have in common , they practically use the same name .

Sorcery And Sorcerer

The movie version of the stick is slicker and useless but the real water stick will get you water but also lay lines ....

Now both are performing magic , i believe in the new age crystal power shit but not in the first degree rub on the forehead way , but usable power generation .. But you do get enlighten , by the quest for its knowledge , sitting around it or humming not required .

Ok ley lines , water line , there must be some thing magnetic to it ...

the stick also reminded me of the AV plug , water nodes , power nodes ...

Magic stick ,water stick ,Edward stick  i begin to see a pattern here don't you , his node is to his East . between he 25 and 26 parallel are those power nodes of gravity nodes ...

Was his generator a magnetic node maker , the weight over the wheel could maintain some momentum and also receive a charge of magnetic current that actually travels in chains ...

   
 

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 10:04:48 AM
@all

Tomorrow i will show the gravity generator ...

V magnets not U magnets where the field is only strong enough to jump at the end , not v gates to confuse you .

He tried to replicate the planet ! The world grid ! the generator of even horizon like Nassim would say , thanks to him i figured the flower of life and Ed about a year ago , worth the 8h of video .

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 11:04:34 AM
@all

Some basic idea you will see its clear as mud , but a V magnet is not the old magnet ...

I wonder witch one it is but Ed left a clue , the table !
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 11:34:35 AM
@all

Look what i have found in the world grid not one but 2 vortex !

Like Ed's wheel and guess what the sky map infra red marking , must be the solar system and the galaxy plane that we go trough ...

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 02:08:28 PM
@all non believe

The Y stick works , i can show you how to prove it to your self and others in less then 5 minutes .

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2010, 04:16:23 PM
@smoky
The key guy now , i don't think that dismissing everything someone says because in your judgment he said something stupid would equate dismissing 99.99999999 of the planet so ...


that wasnt exactly what i was trying to say... i didnt dismiss anything he said, i just didnt think that he "said" anything...

i couldn't follow anything that guy was trying to do.. it seems to me that he just went around in circles, reading the first couple of pragraphs, underlining the words,. mising and matching them, then he draws these connect-the-dot lines, and came up with the "v" shaped symbol. which i have to admit is interesting, but i dont understand how he got to that point...

there was a lot more going on inside his head than he was able to release from his mouth.....

i have nothing against crazy people, im kinda crazy myself..
i just couldn't follow that guy, or where he was trying to go with this thing...  i could see that he had something on his mind,
but as far as "what he was saying",.. it made absolutely no sense to me.. i hear him talking but he didnt say anything..
at least not that i could pick up on...
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InfaRed Sky???  i see two perfect sin-waves, 230-degrees apart.
Where in the sky is this observed? and WHO is transmitting in infared??

Thats definately a man-made signal.

most people dont transmit in IR, because of the power requirements.

it works great for short distances, tv remotes, wireless components, garage door openers, keyless car locks,.

but to transmit across the sky at a great distance,. that requires a LOT of power...  we're talking about a large corporation or government entity.. 
Why infared?  what are they trying to hide?


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 28, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
@smoky

If you go to google sky and zoom out then activate the infrared button upper left corner .

I don't think it man made , it seems like its when we pass up and down the galactic plane .

I don't mind any comment positive or not , you never need to explain .
Usually comments bring me back to things a forgot to mention ...

Ok now the sky map show the same wave the correspond to the planetary grid .

I am either the biggest fool ever , a walking dead smart ass , or genius .

Trinity !


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 02:30:53 AM
im not saying theres not some sort of "natural" things going on around the earth.

but ive seen quite a lot of manmade signals, and that happens to be something i know a good deal about.

i would bet $ that wherever that is comming from,
its a man-made communication.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 02:43:55 AM
Update::

i contacted a friend at the dept. of defense
he said:

What we're looking at is a satellite communication, controled by Lockeed Martin AFB in Atlanta, Ga. under a program entitled: SBIRS ( space-based infrared system )
basically a missle warning system, in-case someone tries to launch an attack on the U.S.

This would explain why you have to zoom out (closer to the earth) in order to see the signal in Google sky.

im impressed,. google has a really nice satellite system, you can see galaxies quite clearly.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 02:56:42 AM
@all

Well , i don't quite buy it because of the lay line maps predates the defense system buy some million years .

You do know it goes all the way around the earth , how are the Russian and Chinese allowing this  ???

Now was ED a sourcerer (find water with a stick ) , remember the moving of coral castle , the was going around rural florida on his bike searching the perfect location , he requested the sades lot , got a great discount for it . The guy selling it was a friend he did not want to rip him of because there was no water there only solid coral rock .

Ed had water all along !



 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 03:22:50 AM
do you honestly think the russians or chinese could launch a missle and we wouldnt know the second it left the ground??

im not going to pretend to know anytihng about this satelitte system.  But if theres any communications of that scale going on, John knows about it., thats why i called him.

if he says thats what it is, i gotta take him at his word.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 03:54:53 AM
@smoky

Relax dude , nothing against you or your friend , but i still do not believe you that is all , i am like a lawyer i only ask question i know the answer to ...

Look closely to this sky map the historical settings show all 3 waves , the one in the middle is easy to spot , the others are hidden in the drawings , but really there .

I hope the military dose have something , but that is not it ...

Look what happen when Poland decided to accept the American shield , i died in a plane over Russia , don't you love coincidences .

Nothing against you or anyone , but i am not buying it it is all .

You can chose to ignore this topic , if it makes you uncomfortable .

I know so far its been a dialog mainly between us , but you are not obliged to answer , i respect that.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 04:06:28 AM
@all

To look at the our galaxy we need to look at the edge of it to see it that is why we can only see it by zooming out , when you look outside do you see the screen in the window ? No you don't you nee to zoom out.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 04:29:33 AM
@all

I got a scientific video explaining it !

The negative wave is the galaxy black hole center , you can't really see it
but positive infrared wave makes it appear .

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/48695/Is_this_NASA_talking_2012_or_more_scaremongering/

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on July 29, 2010, 05:49:17 AM
    This patent pretty much sums it up for me and Leedskalin.  The flow of virtual particles which impart charge to mass reminds me of Leedskalin's magnetic currents.  These virtual particles have to move when charged mass moves.

The scale up of this machine is infinite.  The mass of the dielectric seems to be the scalable parameter.

 
http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 05:53:19 AM
i still have a hard time accepting that its a non-man made signal

SETI has spent decades looking for things like this.
if its not ours, then something made this.
stars and other celestial objects do not emit consistent signals like this.
even pulsars (which have the most consistent frequency of all stellar bodies) fluxuate somewhat, and emit all kinds of frequencies, in addition to their most noticible "pulses"

this is a perfect signal. signals like that just dont appear from solar fluxuations, even the orbits of stars around the galaxy, and around each other are not consistent like this.

to know more about it, i would have to gather some information about googles' system, i.e. sampling rate, magnitude,
 in order to obtain the frequency / amplitude of the signal.
that would help narrow down its source.

if its not from our own satellites transmitting to and from one another, then it has to come from somewhere... something / someone... as far as i know, we have not located any intelligent signals originating from anywhere outside of our own creations.

if this is indeed Un-manmade...  i could argue that it is a sign of exterrestrial life/intelliegnce.

This signal looks very familiar to me. it looks like several thousands of signals i have worked with over the years.

what i see here is:  carrier wave, modulation wave, and the center one is the "data".

this only occurs from man-made communications.
we invented this form of data transfer.

i agree, it does ressemble the vortex map, and if it were out of phase 180-degrees things may be much different, but this is 230-degrees apart and of the same frequency. 
notice that the freq. of the carrier/modulation waves are much higher than the data signal, this is done so it can be filtered out at the recieving end.

many things can take on a similar shape to this,. plot the path of a three dimensional orbit on a 2-d map. it looks just like your vortex map. heres an example of the space shuttle when it orbits around the equator.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0282.shtml (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0282.shtml)

i think if this were just some "occurance" originating from space, it would be "incoherent", a mixed jumble of several indecipherable frequencies. not just the 3 normal sine-waves that we use in everyday communications.



Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 06:21:47 AM
one thing i am noticing here, if you pan to the left and right
 is that the "data" signal isnt sending any data, its a HeartBeat.

like a computer system in a loop, waiting for something to happen.
(like ,.. just a guess here, perhaps a missle launch?)
it could be something completely different
maybe the global positioning system, but im not sure if that particular system operates in any "IR" frequencies..

its also possible that the signal itself is not even in the infrared spectrum, but for one reason or another, its showing up on googles image.


[correction] i take that back, this isn't a repeating cycle, this is the same image, overlapped on itself. we're just seeing a single snapshot, one tiny piece of space. using the left/right arrows just repeats the same image.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 06:24:46 AM
@smoky

They know , the historical map is way older then all our technology and it clearly shows the same thing , what gives .

The sorcerer know about astrological events otherwise the king has his head , we are living it as we speak we are entering midpoint now it takes 7 years , The king need to know that stuff to take full advantage of it ...

 Lenz law dictates that earth like a coil is producing a magnetic field to counter balance the field made by the galaxy an i think the small one is the solar system. This explains the lay lines from the world grid , its the lenz thing and the lenz thing may actually give life to a planet .

Now the harmonic freq the galaxy must dictate the root of the note or freq , sub systems like the solar system needs to be in Harmonie with it otherwise it will get rejected , 230 you say i guess i have no idea , but i bet its a ratio of 1.618 the ratio of beauty and life ...

Also we did not have the technology for infrared in the old days and don't see it anyway , so i guess it is easy to ignore , the compartmentalization of science and building of unique language for each field only serves the employer , in life you do what you get paid for ...

This is some crazy stuff , but there is a simple elegance to it , some can't accept those , in truth it fuels me .


     
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 06:43:24 AM
correct me if im wrong here, but is not that "historical" map, showing the path of the EARTH, in its 3-d orbit, passing through the constellations, drawn on a 2-d map,
like in the space shuttle link
during the 3 phases in its cycle?
why would this identicle pattern show up on goggles "IR" view?
is this something Google Sky added to the map, and is not really "there" ? 

this is all making me want to get some more infrared images from other sources to compare them. 

also,. if this is actually "seen" in the sky, how far away from the earth is this signal?,  does it circle the earth? does it travel in a straight line, through that one "window" of space the google telescope is pointed at currently?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 07:01:08 AM
you think Google added this signal, to demonstrate the path that the earth travels throuhg the sky? here are some second opinions from other infrared satellite images. This signal is not observed.

http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/ISO/pht/slew_map.html (http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/image_galleries/ISO/pht/slew_map.html)

http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn12238/dn12238-2_600.jpg (http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn12238/dn12238-2_600.jpg)

http://www.phy.mtu.edu/apod/image/9801/infraredsky_cobe_big.jpg (http://www.phy.mtu.edu/apod/image/9801/infraredsky_cobe_big.jpg)




Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 07:09:34 AM
@smoky

Yes we travel that line , but we are standing still looking at it , the stars form the pattern remove slowly the infrared and everything is in place and did not move you just don't see the red anymore.

I like that you said heart beat , we have to be tuned to the maestro , so if as to relate the the galaxy it could be very similar ...

Mark

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 07:20:28 AM
@smoky

Nice picture , yes you can see it at pretty much at any scale and yes the galaxy is flat , but earth trough it up and down .

On this picture you only see one wave link , the fish eye messes it up a bit.
In a local area not moving it look like line but the planet is spinning and creates the wave . 23.5 ...


BTW stop saying its a signal , yes it shows a wave , its the middle plane of the
galaxy .
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 29, 2010, 07:56:23 AM
this makes google sky look like a childs toy....

http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/Home.aspx (http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/Home.aspx)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 09:33:23 AM
@all

Its so much fun once you start seeing how ed left clues , i still have many more .

But first some modified picture to see where this is going ...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
@all
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 09:55:30 AM
@all

Sweet 16

16/360 equal 22.5  earth axis 23.5 it takes 22.5 times to go around . But you need to calculate 23.5 for symmetry and time .

23.5 *16 = 376 full rotation plus one for time .



So there could be time the 1 degree is inserted so that the 17 go around is symmetrical and fall 16 later on 376 .


Ha degrees and numbers so much fun , real symmetry tricky , i learned it the hard way ...   

He made a replication of the planet , don't surprised if it generated gravity.

Mark 

I forgot to mention , actually i just got it .

He uses 24 magnet , but sweet 16

24/16 equals 1.5 so the magnet order is  S-N  N-N  N-S  S-S  S-N and so on...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on July 29, 2010, 10:00:04 AM
@all

Sweet 16

16/360 equal 22.5  earth axis 23.5 it takes 22.5 times to go around . But you need to calculate 23.5 for symmetry and time .

23.5 *16 = 376 full rotation plus one for time .



So there could be time the 1 degree is inserted so that the 17 go around is symmetrical and fall 16 later on 376 .


Ha degrees and numbers so much fun , real symmetry tricky , i learned it the hard way ...   

He made a replication of the planet , don't surprised if it generated gravity.

Mark
So nice to see this being discussed here.  And so well presented.  A really good thread.   Thanks guys.   :)
regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 10:04:46 AM
So nice to see this being discussed here.  And so well presented.  A really good thread.   Thanks guys.   :)
regards,
Rosemary

Well , You are very welcomed !

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 10:24:19 AM
@all

Gravity theory shows at as 2 waves hitting the same point at the same time .

Look at the picture the heavy chain on top is moving to the beat of the wheel

It is following the arm , there is also a iron bar perpendicular to the wheel.

Both of those are iron , under stress from the wheel , both are linked to chains (chains conduct magnetism like a copper wire electricity ).

And finally both are 90 degrees apart physically and in operation .

I bet that on the rock you need one chain on top and one on the side .

There is also some indication of the use of electricity more on that soon...

Hint the bottles ( glass contains electricity ) caps , magnetic quench , spark gap...

Mark   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 01:06:19 PM
@all

I just can't go back to sleep , So before earth shifts another 90 degrees Canada time !  The switch takes 7 years ( the 7 years of tribulation, lol. )
The ride should not be that hard .

I will explain my views of the Blow here , tip .

First http://dnet.viawest.net/users/paul/

From a fellow Eds man , the bottle in the resonance pillar , there is a bottle in the resonance pillar .

but the clue is the location of the pillar , the blow is not like blowing but more explosion , and the location of the pillar is the location of the spark-gap in the schematic .

The bottle in the last post , is first a coil around a bottle 2 wires go in .

Its a bottle capacitor , with the spark-gap inside the bottle the coil around the bottle put the bottle under magnetic pressure .

So the schematic show its between the horizontal coil and vertical one .

You should know by now the specific sound of a spark gap , imagine tuning it to a rock freq , that would account for the weird singing around the castle.

The handle of the wheel seems at 22.5 degrees , like most of the chairs in the garden .

The whole Circuit seems iron , the engine axle in driven into the ground , so its grounded .

Its like a Tesla coil but for the magnetic domain .
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 01:16:30 PM
@all

I think Stan Can explain the 2 wave at 90 degrees better then me so ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP4zQ4R8vJg&feature=related

There is 8 video enjoy.

If you know Any of Ed's fan please contact them so they come join in , and rebuild the golden age , i am tired of waiting for Agnes .

Spread the word this time we got the knowledge .

I would really like Nassim And Marko Rodin to join in , there are many sites with partial answers lets invite them all .

I need all of you , Why because you will mist it .

If anyone need any help understanding it , please say it , anything so i remember everything .

Ist i am beginning to believe you ...


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
@all

One more has poles shift , the moon may not fallow to things .

Either is falls on earth or flip 180 degree , putting it right side up again .

I always wondered why on the side that is protected by earth , it looks like a target practice yard , my guess if there is some thing to see on the moon we will see it .

So earth would shift 90 degree , the preceding pole must have been at stone hedge , before that Bermuda , so its about to get cold in russia .

It explains the weird things at both locations , most likely the old Atlantian

and Celtic heliport , I fiction use to be easier to spot .

Believe me i am making this up as a go .
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 29, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
@all

Here are some video from Nassim really worth to watch , when you get the time. You will not regret any seconds of it !

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335#

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gravityblock on July 29, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
@all

Sweet 16

16/360 equal 22.5  earth axis 23.5 it takes 22.5 times to go around . But you need to calculate 23.5 for symmetry and time .

23.5 *16 = 376 full rotation plus one for time .



So there could be time the 1 degree is inserted so that the 17 go around is symmetrical and fall 16 later on 376 .


Ha degrees and numbers so much fun , real symmetry tricky , i learned it the hard way ...   

He made a replication of the planet , don't surprised if it generated gravity.

Mark 

I forgot to mention , actually i just got it .

He uses 24 magnet , but sweet 16

24/16 equals 1.5 so the magnet order is  S-N  N-N  N-S  S-S  S-N and so on...

You have the magnet order wrong.  This video shows the magnetic pole configuration on Leedskalnin's generator.  The flywheel has a north south north south.....pattern, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemkVvlaMNU

GB
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 30, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
You have the magnet order wrong.  This video shows the magnetic pole configuration on Leedskalnin's generator.  The flywheel has a north south north south.....pattern, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemkVvlaMNU

GB

i wasnt going to comment on that, because there are so many different theories floating around about that wheel of his..

when i went there in the 80's, it seemed quite clear to me that this was a Generator, not a motor. the chains and weights drove the generator, wound up on the horizontal sprocket above.

i believe this is what ed used to recharge his batteries, and create magnets. when the weights hit the bottom, he wound them back up like a clock to operate te generator again.

but even way back then, it was only half assembled, and missing several pieces.  from what i hear, its in even worse shape today..
which i think is the cause of most of the confusion.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 08:14:48 AM
@all

I would not really make conclusions on the magnet as of yet , the reason are simple , magnets in close proximity of each other can reverse the field or plain stop , and you clearly see in this video the magnets need recharging.

Second , Ed liked his girls weak , girls is the south pole , he told us about it .

The way the video is made is not precise enough for me , there are 5 rows of magnet are they all the same ?

How much decay is responsible for the current results ?

It would take many hours of meticulous verification before i will admit it to be the way .

Now if that is true , its a good news , no need to make special magnets , any old magnet will work ...

To make a real test , you need a real compass , those magnetic readers are only good to make movies , you learn nothing from using those , you can't see the magnetic lines .

The way the test was performed was inconclusive , he is checking the peak of 2 magnets at a time ? The reader can only show one polarity at one time most likely the strongest .

If you want cavitation you need a vortex implosion , Ed made basically a Magnetron with the cavitation cavity on the out side instead of inside like the microwave.

@all

I know i sound crazy at time , but come on your guys are just looking for excuses to go back to sleep , the world is changing will you have your word to say in it ?

If yes , then do it !

There is no right or wrong there is only logic , you don't need any experts on that , you are one!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 09:05:04 AM
i wasnt going to comment on that, because there are so many different theories floating around about that wheel of his..

when i went there in the 80's, it seemed quite clear to me that this was a Generator, not a motor. the chains and weights drove the generator, wound up on the horizontal sprocket above.

i believe this is what ed used to recharge his batteries, and create magnets. when the weights hit the bottom, he wound them back up like a clock to operate te generator again.

but even way back then, it was only half assembled, and missing several pieces.  from what i hear, its in even worse shape today..
which i think is the cause of most of the confusion.

I agree it is not motor but a generator , but not a electrical generator but a magnetic current generator , hence the magnetic current tittle , and on the
picture you can clearly see that once you know what to look for and have some idea on what gravity is .

But i have to say i had many theories before this one , but none made sense with the evidence and clues left , i bet most just don't see clues as clues but plain rocks without meaning .

I have studied Art history 4 years , also took astronomy , electronics , mechanics , physics , chemistry class in college , was painter , sculptor photographer , i also am a musician play many instruments and i am also proud to say i am a chess master (if you don't play at a competitive level you don't get it, if you want super brain function you have to train it.

I quite versed in most intellectual fields , this is why i see stuff others just dismiss , i am only stating what to me is evident , for the last 2 years i worked on the assumption that if it is evident to me it evident that is all , i am not one usually to state the obvious but since clearly learned this to be false ...

I oblige my self to do so , otherwise no one will see it .

I will not go to Africa to help or be a missionary , because i will help even more by sharing what i am good at , apparently its to see invisible things , lol.

Everyone wants to save the world , first save your self , help by doing what you can do best...

What will i have to answer and build and explain everything my self .

       
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 09:59:36 AM
@all

I will try to illustrate magnetic current in its simplest form ...

The holder :

The holder is a piece of iron you put at the end of u shape magnet to keep the magnetic strength up in the iron magnet.

Simple as it looks , its is quite interesting .

First thing to observe is that the magnetic field around the magnet is gone .
This can be observed with a computer screen quite fast .

The magnet is still active but the magnetic current is not circulating inside the iron bar not outside around the magnet .

That is magnetic current !!!

How to use it ?

I will show you all in the next few post , this is nothing new it was used in the old days i have seen it on the Ford Model t magneto , and many other example of the same thing like eds machine.



 



 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 10:05:57 AM
One example is http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm

Look the the wire connecting both magnets ...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 11:50:28 AM
@all

Ok i can't find any decent pictures of the other example of the use of magnetic current , i was searching for the mini romag generator and ford magneto use in early t models but was actually it was invented by Keeley .

Ok first photo Make and break ...

Now one coil is installed on the holder and a led connected to it , making and breaking the connection of the holder with the magnet makes current flow in the coil and light the led .

This show that you can make a transformer action happen no battery , you just need to break physically the connection , all this can be done completely in the magnetic domain , i will not only show you but also how to improve any motor with the magnetic current switching .
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
@all

Other thing to keep in mind , when you have a wave in a core the magnetic current is 90 degrees late , 1/4 of the freq rate ...

I think Tesla was referring to this as quarter wave ..  running the load on the quarter wave , for magnetic wave .

Meaning of things change so much over time  ??? i guess we will have to find out .

Mark

now 6am i am out !
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 30, 2010, 02:18:22 PM
i wish Scotty would chime in right about now, this is HIS subject. hes a professional when it comes to the perpetual motion holder.

he has built many of them, and has done more work on this subject than anyone else i know of.

Quote
Second , Ed liked his girls weak , girls is the south pole , he told us about it

This should tell you exactly what he was doing with it.
the forces are both stronger and weaker than one another in opposite ways.
south has a weaker repulsion force (antigravity?) than the north.
inversly, the north has a weaker attraction force (difficult to verify, but ED walks you through that in one of his experiments).
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Im putting this into my own words here, but...

Ed defines electricty as the resultant force of the magnetic current
 (induction)

when magnetic current flows through a metal, at a non-parallel vector to its length, (length can be defined through any dimension of the metal), it causes the force we know as "electricity". This is simply a reorientation of the normal electron flow through the metal.
electrons always flow through a metal, but without the magnetic induction, the flow is balanced, resulting in a net-0 electrical potential. This theory can be used to show that all of the natural forces are reduced to the magnetic current. (aetheric in nature)

Heat, gravity, magnetism, light, atomic forces (weak/strong), ect.

its still a work in progress, but this analysis helps to clarify many of the "fudge factors" inserted into our current physics model.


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 30, 2010, 02:47:57 PM
i wish Scotty would chime in right about now, this is HIS subject. hes a professional when it comes to the perpetual motion holder.

he has built many of them, and has done more work on this subject than anyone else i know of.

This should tell you exactly what he was doing with it.
the forces are both stronger and weaker than one another in opposite ways.
south has a weaker repulsion force (antigravity?) than the north.
inversly, the north has a weaker attraction force (difficult to verify, but ED walks you through that in one of his experiments).
-------------------------------------------------------------

Im putting this into my own words here, but...

Ed defines electricty as the resltant force of the magnetic current
 (induction)

when magnetic current flows through a metal, at a non-parallel vector to its length, (length can be defined through any dimension of the metal), it causes the force we know as "electricity". This is simply a reorientation of the normal electron flow through the metal.
electrons always flow through a metal, but without the magnetic induction, the flow is balanced, resulting in a net-0 electrical potential. This theory can be used to show that all of the natural forces are reduced to the magnetic current. (aetheric in nature)

Heat, gravity, magnetism, light, atomic forces (weak/strong), ect.

Bring your friend Scotty , we will laugh it out , lol ...

If you are only searching for reasons it will not work , you may pass the working option , at this point you clearly see that i am still going , well yes i know where i am going , when i show my stuff all the details will be already out .

All i will say is copper and iron are 2 different beast and no i am not talking about the perpetual motion holder , i believe building one is enough to get it but its only a example not a tool like the wheel and that is the subject at hand here since no one even comes close i need to go step by step ,by next weekend , you will begin to see the picture .

Btw i also am a expert in Leedskalnin bring one to me so some could grasp what i am saying . Bring him on if he is honest he will see his i am telling the truth and only that.

Ed would iron push and pulls , copper only pulls (i may be push i don't remember , but not really important to this point)

And he made more electricity with iron then copper ...

details on it this can be found in this article its not complete but its a good start ...

http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf2/fields10.htm

Iron becomes a magnet if you allow it to , ask your self why chains ?
then why are they that big ?

Any i will answer i a really clear and provable way ...

Ed show us a picture of what he could do , he showed just enough so you could figure it out on your own . Not the work of some one else .

What you do with what you learn is up to you really , once you get it ...

But please keep going it show interest , and i can see where i left details out , or things are unclear .

This is really magnetic current not electricity , they don't work the same much simpler . 

But make some magnets , then kill them and reverse the magnetism .

Its fun and entertaining , you can make magnets of every strength but if you only charge one side its not a magnet it take 2 side , hence one can be weaker . 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jeanna on July 31, 2010, 05:21:58 AM
This is a great topic, Mk1,
I will be watching.
thank you,

jeanna
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 31, 2010, 05:24:29 AM
everything Ed used was recycled, from something he found, or something that had outlived its original "use".
even his generator itself was made from parts of his old truck, and tow-chains.
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i guess my description of "electricity" was confusing the subject, it sounds like you thought i meant something different than what i was trying to say... but i dont know any other way, than to say it the way i did.

Ed doesnt talk a lot about "electricity", except to prove that the magnetic current CAUSES the electricity.

he used iron wire because that's what he had,. it makes electricity just the same as copper, just in greater abundance for its mass (induction), the trade-off is the additional attraction force. (magnetism).

but then again, this was comming from a man who could defy gravity, lorentz' force, ect.    So to him, it didnt cause a problem to use the iron, in fact it was to his benefit.
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why does iron create more induction for its mass?
 because there are more "tiny magnets" in the iron than in the copper. This causes them to set-up a permanent magnetic current through the iron. Copper does this to a much much smaller degree., which is why a "magnetized" piece of copper has a faint, almost indetectable field.
"electrons" orbit along this magnetic current path, creating a permanent magnetic field through the iron.
which is why the iron becomes "magnetized".








Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on July 31, 2010, 06:02:02 AM
everything Ed used was recycled, from something he found, or something that had outlived its original "use".
even his generator itself was made from parts of his old truck, and tow-chains.
-------------------------------------------------------------
i guess my description of "electricity" was confusing the subject, it sounds like you thought i meant something different than what i was trying to say... but i dont know any other way, than to say it the way i did.

Ed doesnt talk a lot about "electricity", except to prove that the magnetic current CAUSES the electricity.

he used iron wire because that's what he had,. it makes electricity just the same as copper, just in greater abundance for its mass (induction), the trade-off is the additional attraction force. (magnetism).

but then again, this was comming from a man who could defy gravity, lorentz' force, ect.    So to him, it didnt cause a problem to use the iron, in fact it was to his benefit.
-------------------------------------------------------------

why does iron create more induction for its mass?
 because there are more "tiny magnets" in the iron than in the copper. This causes them to set-up a permanent magnetic current through the iron. Copper does this to a much much smaller degree., which is why a "magnetized" piece of copper has a faint, almost indetectable field.
"electrons" orbit along this magnetic current path, creating a permanent magnetic field through the iron.
which is why the iron becomes "magnetized".

Yep he could have recycled copper , and saved him self some time by not rewiring his alternator with iron ...

Yes those magnet are from t model ford magneto , i know that and actually been promoting recycling for 2 years ... i get that .

Now i will enjoy showing you how you are off by 90 degree tomorrow , but basically you input to many thing you know about electricity into it .
So much simpler .

The is no magnetic current in copper .

Now i am off to bed early first time this week , in the mean time think about how magnetic current would work in a chain , to help you whit this reflection  , what happens when a piece of iron is in the field of a magnet .

Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron .

What can carry more load a really big but week magnet , or a super strong micro nano neo-magnets  .

More tomorrow 

     
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 02, 2010, 07:04:56 AM
The is no magnetic current in copper .

Now i am off to bed early first time this week , in the mean time think about how magnetic current would work in a chain , to help you whit this reflection  , what happens when a piece of iron is in the field of a magnet .

Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron .

What can carry more load a really big but week magnet , or a super strong micro nano neo-magnets  .
   

copper does in fact magnetize. and retain a magnetic field. as do ALL metals. to different degrees.
i can prove this, but its really irrelevant, because the feld strength of a copper magnet is so weak, that we consider it to be non-magnetic...

in a chain, hmm... the current would split at each link, wrapping around each half of the link, then merge back together....
like an "infinity sign" ....
i would theorize that each "half-current" would switch sides of the chain at the next link, then switch back at the next link, not really sure about that, thats just how i see it in my head..

"Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron?"
im not sure what you mean by that

Load: if you are talking about two magnets of the same Gauss/Tesla,  then i would go with the larger magnet. It's field domains are spread across a much larger surface area, therefore it can hold more metal-mass in its grasp.
the field domains of a neo are compressed, and the metal does not stretch them out very easily.
where-as a less powerful magnet, like say a ceramic-ferrite: the metal will draw the field domains fully around itself, and into an adjoining piece of metal.

You can do this with paperclips., get you a neo and a ceramic of the same strength.
the larger one (ceramic) can hold more metal-mass.
even though they both have the same "rating"

To demonstrate what happens to a piece of iron ( or any metal for that matter) in the presence of a magnetic field, i draw the following: i simplified this by showing the path of a single electron, in actuallity there are 26, in groups of different orbital radii.
2/8/14/2/ respectively.
keep in mind that the atomic structure of each metal is different, so the exact formation taken on by their respective electron orbits will differ, thus resulting in differing field-vectors, and subsequent megnetic induction. This drawing closely resembles Iron. pardon my crude artistic work, im no Picaso...
also i feel the need to mention, that when i say "electron", this term is used in classical physics to describe an observed phenomena, in reality what they are observing is something much different, but for the purposes of this discussion, the classical "electron" will suffice. The external magnetic field alligns the field-domain of the nucleus, which in turn, affects the orbit of the "electron".
In the case of iron, a complex atom, there are neutrons present, which themselves behave similar to iron, by which i mean the magnetic induction from the protons translates into the neutrons, giving the entire nucleus the same magnetic charge, as if the neutrons were not present. this is similar to sticking a piece of iron onto a magnet. its mass increases (and field domain expands), but the field "strength" remains relatively the same. (minus some losses due to the physical induction)
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anyways, this is my crude sketch of what is going on when iron comes into the presence of a magnetic field. Its not perfect, but this should give the general idea.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 02, 2010, 07:16:12 AM
this field is an electro-magnetic field, of four distinct frequencies.
these frequencies are dependent upon the radius of the electrons respective orbits, and combine to create the irons' "atomic frequency". This frequency is extremely high, and for all intensive purposes, we view this field as a 'static-magnetic' field.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 02, 2010, 07:53:04 AM
@smoky

Dose copper becomes a magnet if magnet is applied to it .

Ed did not use magnets to create electricity but to create other magnets .

We here can only think about electromagnet , for that you need electric current .

He used heavy chains to conduct magnetism not electricity , why use electricity to make magnets when magnets to it for free ...

If you ever have a chance to get what he was doing you have to keep in the magnetic domain . No conversion to electric the back to magnetic the problem is that is all we can conceive .

So what happen if you put a piece of iron on a magnet the piece of iron becomes a magnet and will repulse other magnets if not on the right polarity but if the magnet comes to close to the iron it will stick to it, ed used this to make his generator rotate .

He use the big transformer casing as a magnetic capacitor , its has big mass of iron to concentrate the magnetic field that is switch from North to south when the wheel turns , the magnetic current not electricity travels down the chain each link making its own magnetic field back to the wheel the training weight is also a magnetic capacitor .

The idea is to direct the magnetic field to push on the same polarity else where on the wheel , in the magnetic domain .

Now why the magnetic domain , look at the rod in the bottle and the chains , they are big in diameter to make sure they hold enough magnetism .

I am waiting on fresh battery to make a video example ...

Mark   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 02, 2010, 03:20:19 PM
@smoky

Dose copper becomes a magnet if magnet is applied to it .
yes, it in fact does.
but in comparison to a heavy metal, such as iron, this effect is very very small. So small, that we classify it as a "non magnetic" metal. ALL metals exhibit this effect, to varying degrees, including silicon, hydrogen, aluminum, and calcium.
They are considered "non-magnetic" because the effect is not significant enough to induce a secondary field in a magnetic metal.
For example: a copper "magnet", will not magnetize a piece of Iron.

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Ed did not use magnets to create electricity but to create other magnets .
How? i did not gather that from his books.
i have performed Ed's experiments, as he described them, step by step. He in fact uses electricity to create magnets.
He walks you through the process of magnetizing a piece of metal, using another magnet. But as i understood it, this was for example of what he was describing, not as a method of magnet creation. And he also explains why, doing it this way, the magnet is weaker than when you use the battery to create a magnet.
" more tiny magnets go into the iron from the electricity"

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I am waiting on fresh battery to make a video example ...

Mark   

Battery?  why not use magnets as you stated above??
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 02, 2010, 03:32:07 PM
yes, it in fact does.

i have performed Ed's experiments, as he described them, step by step. He in fact uses electricity to create magnets.

Hello Sm0ky2

Did you simply do the experiments he described or did you try and duplicate any effects from his wheel or generator - whatever it is?  And did you see anything anomalous?  I can't get my head around the differences he sees between the strengths in a north and a south.  Nor do I understand how he can isolate the two poles when they always seem to manifest together.  Unless I'm just not understanding him that well. 

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 02, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
Hello Sm0ky2

Did you simply do the experiments he described or did you try and duplicate any effects from his wheel or generator - whatever it is?  And did you see anything anomalous?  I can't get my head around the differences he sees between the strengths in a north and a south.  Nor do I understand how he can isolate the two poles when they always seem to manifest together.  Unless I'm just not understanding him that well. 

Regards,
Rosemary

The "true" functionality of his generator is only described from second-hand sources, which most deem to be unreliable at best. Nearly everything that is known about that particular device is merely speculation, and the subject of much controversy.

His knowledge of the individual North/South magnets is not verified by his experiments, only used in his description of the mangetic current. Which cooincides with the knowledge of many ancient cultures around the world. Seperating the two, i believe, is not a physical possibility, for one needs the other upon which to move.

the best way can describe this movement, is to take 2 pieces of stiff wire, and make two spiral coils, in parallel.  then turn one in one direction, and turn the other in the opposite direction.
This is not "exactly" the same, but it is about as close as i can get you, on a large scale. In actuality, they travel in chains, around one another, like the moon orbits the earth. if that makes any sense...
pushing and pulling upon one another, in constant motion.
This is anagolous in nature, as ED does not describe a method of singling out such a "monopole".

The difference between the N and S poles, is easily observed in Repulsion. The difference in attraction (which is equal and opposite) is more difficult to observe, although it can be done.
The difficulty arrises in the fact that both north and south are simultaneously attracting one another.

Repulsion:
place 4 magnets of equal strength in a repulsionary state
such that they are vertically lifting their pair.
Then place mass upon the upper magnets, in increasing ammounts.
and measure the difference in height between the "north pair" and the "south pair".

Some of Ed's experiments, we took much further than he describes, in a laboratory setting, which has led to intriguing advancements in magnetic science. one of the most important of these, is the formation of an aetheric-distortion through the air. ED describes this as " electricity without wires", but i do not feel that description gives justice to the observed phenomena.






Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on August 02, 2010, 05:53:01 PM
My thoughts on this. You cant have magnetism without a flow or movement. The term tiny magnets makes me cringe. I look at the whole of the magnet as 2 opposing moving fields in close proximity in a solid medium,iron etc, that cant escape each other because each field feeds the others motion which in turn attracts each other. The speed or rpms is possibly faster than the speed of light.  If you take a cue ball and use high center english,the cue balls rotation is ccw. The first ball it hits makes that ball cw. If you line up multiple balls the rotation alternates on each ball. Dc electric would be the cue stick. A guess on my part is the helical current flow and its magnetic field is forcing and inducing its magnetic field into the solid medium filling it up to the point of feedback creating 2 opposing fields. The amount of force or current is key to strength. Its already known if a metal goes beyond its magnetic saturation capabilities using extreme currents it will explode.
 I think its entirely possible that these 2 opposing directional fields are rotating faster than the speed of light which would make them in free space. Scientists say the magnetic field lines are photons but faster than light photons have been observed.  If you spun a ball in free space when does the spin stop. I dont think it will without an external force acting on it.
 Of course I may be totally wrong but that why Im here to learn.
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 02, 2010, 07:19:00 PM
@smoky

The camera unfortunately does not run on magnetic current  ::)

You see there is a special word for copper magnetism its called diamagnetism . ..

I also made all of Ed experiment most of the more them 2 time , he does show how to understand magnetic current but dose not show how he used it ...

Anyway i got to go to work , will make video tonight ...

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 03, 2010, 02:22:43 AM
@all

I got back from work , i will get to it after eating .

After this video i will talk about the 22.5 degree angle , here is a picture of the grand Masonic lodge look at the furniture .

I made a google search for 22.5 degree coil there is plenty to look at here is the first i got .

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F4636107%2F4649055%2F04650157.pdf%3Farnumber%3D4650157&authDecision=-203

 I wonder why they called it eddy current ?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 03, 2010, 04:11:16 AM
That coil being described in the IEEE.explore link is used for mind control......


"eddy currents"  comes from the word Eddies
Which are caused while rowing a boat, and stroking your paddle turned sideways.
the little swirlies formed in the water, are similar to the first observations of "eddy currents". Thats why they are named as such.
has nothing to do with Ed, in fact they were named long before Ed wrote his books, and/or became 'famous'
I believe it was Faraday that coined the term, although i may be mistaken on that...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 03, 2010, 06:03:15 AM
again i draw these in a very simplified version, to only show the path of a single "electron" orbit. they will all follow similar paths, to create the final induced field. in light metals, the nucleus is magnetically imbalalnced. the induced field is the combined result of the imbalanced nuclii field + the inducing field. this causes a multi-vector path, hence the difference in the strength (and vector) of the induced field. generally these atomic structures have an uneven number of protons/neutrons. though there are exceptions to this, such as lead and mercury: whose 4th "electron shell" exhibits a "shielding" effect, that masks the true field of the nuclii. "diamagnetism" is the same effect as the "magnetism" in heavy metals, just in a different orientation and vector. a distinction which is mistakenly attributed to a different cause/effect by modern science.

Here i draw an example of the magnetic induction in copper and bismuth. As i mentioned before, each atomic structure creates a different induction. some fields are more coherent than others, but they are all essentially caused by the same effect.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 03, 2010, 06:04:22 AM
@smokey

Mind control you say !  :o is there such a thing  >:( well well ...

You are a great asset keep the good work ! A real googler !

Léon Foucault 1851 discovered it i guess you can only get the full story if you read french ... http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courants_de_Foucault click on english for fun ...

@all


Anyway 22.5 is the magic number .

I waiting for the video to show up on my channel , it will illustrate what i meant when i said creating magnets and that the polarity is stronger then the iron pull ...

I also found this new electric paper , i can't wait to see what they will make it do , but so far current in it seems to show a 22.5 pitch ... bummer the animated gif is to big .

Back soon ...
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 03, 2010, 06:25:59 AM
Transcranial magnetic stimulation was on a show on the discovery channell a couple weeks ago. the subjects were "forced" to make decisions they did not make on their own.
even when instructed to make a different choice.

there have been conspiracy theories about such technologies for decades, but it is just recently being experimented with out in the open. They have just barely begun to scratch the surface, but already know how to control many of the brains functions with frequency-specific EMF radiation. Its pretty crazy stuff...
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guess i should have googled the eddy current thing, nice find
i cant read french though...

that electric paper, is that the stuff they're using in those digital-paper-books?
-single sheet of paper that can hold hundreds of books..
you click on it like a touch-screen to turn the page. i saw one a few months back at a tech-show. they're pretty neat.
i imagine people carrying them around instead of big bulky books..
or kids in schools, with a single sheet of paper that holds all their texts. but we're probably still a long time away from that..
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 03, 2010, 11:37:51 PM
ok, this "144" thing has me interested now. If there is a code hidden in this writing, i'll find it.. but im going to need some help.
ive cracked algorithms that im not really allowed to talk about, but lets just say that im pretty good at this sort of thing..

What i need is::   a copy of 'Magnetic Current' in its original format.
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This writing is lined up so when you read it you look East, ...

If it is "lined up", i need a copy of the book, that has not been altered by computer formatting, PDF conversion, ect..

I have two copies here, one i hijacked several years ago from coralcastle.com' archives.
and one i just downloaded today from Keeley.net
both are the same. So i have to assume that Keeley's original source came from there.

Is there a place to get an older copy? to compare for formatting, word placement, ect??  The original message may have been destroyed, if the formatting has changed.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 12:13:01 AM
i may be on to something here. i need a better copy of this.

tell me if this means anything to you

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....   when the order is the same the north pole (is up?)
  Test a much longer magnet so that its south pole is to the east..

this is hidden in the few pages.
if this is the messege we're supposed to follow, it cant be more than 3-4 paragraphs long, throughout the book.
im not picking up on it until the end of page 2, whatever comes before this is all out of format in my copy to the point i cant "see" it...

i really need the original book...

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 04, 2010, 12:32:47 AM
@smoky

I started this tread with that intention of finding a original copy of his book , and its required to really go on .

But ed left other clues , there is the Ring twice , blow horn , etc ...

Anyway Ytube is bugging me i will reload the video ...

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 12:52:33 AM
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the wire will not be in the air until the south pole points west

is he telling how "antigravity" works???

please tell me you have an original copy of this book....
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 04, 2010, 01:10:20 AM
I don't have it ...

I only wish i did , there are over 23 000 members here i bet we could find one easy ...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: NetViewer2011 on August 04, 2010, 02:48:08 AM
Thank you Mk1 for directing me here.  First off, let me re-ask these questions.
I was wondering if anyone has the measurement of the diameter of Ed's flywheel that they can share.  I used to be on the code144 forumn, but when that forumn was taken down, alot of the info regarding the flywheel dimension was lost.  If anyone from that forumn is on here and want to share the info, I would greatly appreciate it.

Secondly, to answer smOkey2 question regarding the books.  If yours has hand drawn pictures made by Ed, then it is the original version.  The one from Keelynet and from Amazon are edited, there are no pictures in them.  I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 04, 2010, 03:32:44 AM
Netviewer2011

Welcome to my tread ! I don't have the dimensions but i think you could extrapolate them from the magnets .

I would look for Ford Model T magneto magnets , they are still in the market ...

Keep in mind that the ford magneto has only 16 magnets (sweet16)

Mark
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 05:35:43 AM
@ netviewer

Thanks, i found that version, but its in a .PDF so im unsure about the formatting of that one as well,..

ive been at this for hours, im still missing the first couple of sentences, so i cant put this into context,. i have no idea what the hell hes talking about,. but here you go...

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...   when the order is the same the north pole (is up?)
Test a much longer magnet so that its south pole is to the east.
The wire will not be in the air until the south pole points west.
When the north pole is to the east then it will be lighter.....


this takes me to the bottom of page 5/13 of my copy.

im up against a wall here with this formatting.. im gonna print out the pdf. w/ graphics and give it another go. i need to find one that prints properly, the first one i tried, the words were all fuzzy when it printed out..

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 07:20:54 AM
they're all the same pdf file,.. (51 pages)
looks fine on the screen, but when i go to print it out, its all jacked up... guess im gonna have to work off the pc.
little inconvenient, but what do you do....

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 07:43:01 AM
the code has nothing to do with the format.

the meaning of "look east" is apparent only when the illustrations are present. you look east, so that when you perform the experiments, north is to your left and south is to your right.

i'll keep working on the message and post what i find.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 04, 2010, 08:14:50 AM
begining page 2, just after the log/lat location

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A magnet with its poles equal and close to another magnet will cancel the earths magnets (see experiment page 6/7)

when the (order?) is the same the north pole is a much stronger magnet than the south pole

(turn?) to the east
the wire will not be in the air until the south pole points to the west

when the north side is to the east then it will be lighter

this is starting to make more sense now, pending experimental verification...
can it really be that simple? did Ed use the earths own field to defy gravity?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: NetViewer2011 on August 05, 2010, 02:26:50 AM
To Smoky2
So I went thru Ed's Magnetic Current book again, but couldnt find any of the quote that you put up.  Are they from his other works?

I also had the same ideas about the Egyptian, found many info on their petroglyph.  Unfortunately, I couldn't read their hieroglyph.  I noticed you said u taught yourself how to read them. Can you advice me where to start so I can learn how to read the hieroglyph?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jeanna on August 05, 2010, 02:45:43 AM
I just found that scribd has it. It looks pretty hand drawn to me but you must pay to download it.
I don't have any books worthy of upload so I must pay. via credit card.
And there is an ever present peeking in being done by facebook.
(I really don't trust facebook)
I noticed fuzzytomcat's name on the right and it told me the books fuxxy likes to read!
What?
So, if anybody has a paid up account at scribd, it might be great to download it and maybe share the pdf here?

thanks,

jeanna

ps
I went back to the page and waited for the whole book to download, and saved the page as... and it appears to be there, all but a piece of the last drawing. Perhaps I didn't wait long enough?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 05, 2010, 11:32:47 AM
To Smoky2
So I went thru Ed's Magnetic Current book again, but couldnt find any of the quote that you put up.  Are they from his other works?

I also had the same ideas about the Egyptian, found many info on their petroglyph.  Unfortunately, I couldn't read their hieroglyph.  I noticed you said u taught yourself how to read them. Can you advice me where to start so I can learn how to read the hieroglyph?

Ed hid it in plain sight.  theres a sort of pattern to it, and the words pop out like one of those pictures you stare at, with the hidden picture inside. What he is saying goes along with the experiments in each section.
still trying to piece it together, but it sounds to me like in the first section, he is telling us to place two steel wires in line with the earths magnetic field, and allow the earth to magnetize them.
then then turn them 90-degrees, (north to east) and they will repel each other, causing one to lift into the air. and "become lighter"

i have some time comming up this weekend, i need to put some work in on this archer quinn thing, but i'll set some time aside for ED as well.
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The ancient languages:

i cant "read" heiroplyphic text. there are many dialects that have evolved over the centuries, throughout many of the ancient cultures. what i call "ancient" is a time-frame between 5,000 and 12,000 years ago, some go back even 20,000 years. but nearly all of them, throughout the world, reference an advanced civilization that predates their own history.

What i learned over the years, was to referencially translate the glyphs. My study began in the local libraries, and museums. Some of this information is now available on the internet, but there are only a few small samples of heiroglyphic images online.
i also caution using the internet as a reliable source of translation, as much of this information is innacurate, especially when it comes to correlating the pictograms into our own 'alphabet'. many of the images represent multiple words and even sentences, not simply "letters" as some websites proclaim.

as a generality, the older the language, the more 'meaning' each picture holds. Much of the knowledge of the egyptians was passed down verbally, and as such, each of the pictures, especially in the older glyphs, has its own story-line, upon which it is based.

Each time-frame, within a given culture, should be handled individually. There is not a single reference-point, to translate all of the egyptian writings. I found that the best approach is to select a text of interest, and a referenced translation of that time-period.
From that you can establish the meaning of many of the glyphs,
and then find a few more texts from the same period of time, to cross reference, (using their respective refreenced translation) with the first. There will be discrepencies. Pay close attention to these, and mark them, because you will come back to those glyphs once you gain a better understanding of what they mean, and how the language of the ancient egyptians was written.

contextually, their sentences do not flow like ours, they are "Backwards" compared to the way we write our sentences.
(no offense intended to those of european descent)

the reason i suggest seperating them into time-frames, is in the fact that a particular glyph may still hold a similar meaning, but in the following time-frames/ dynasty/ reign (whatever you want to call it) its 'use' may be very different.

It is a time-consuming, and labor-intensive process, and many times you may be forced to seek the advice of a historian, or professor that can actually "read" the glyphs of that particular time-frame. and even still, they often argue with one another over the true 'meaning' of some of the glyphs.

most of them are written in reference to the reigning king, and gods (kings) that preceed them.  It is probably best to work along the time-line, from oldest to most recent, as there are glyphs that did not exist previously, and their meanings change throughout time, and even regionally. discrepencies can be found when translating glyphs, from even the same time-frame, between the north nile and south nile regions.

when you find a particular glyph that does not read the same, between referenced translations, make note of them.
and compare how they are translated in other texts of the same time-frame, as well as in previous and later texts.

When you have had enough of the egyptians, i would point you in the direction of the other ancient cultures around the world. undergo the same process with their glyphic texts.
North Africa, The mayans, Aztecs, Spain,
and reference these with the writings from ancient greece, the Norse/vikings,

i started to work on the chinese, mostly interesting to me because of their isolationist attitude, that with the fact that their language  has remained intact throughout almost all of their history, made the ancient chinese an ideal candidate. but i found their language hard to comprehend, and their mythology is so intertwined into their culture in ways that surpass even the egyptians. i gave up completely on that.... in the little bit of study that i did on the chinese, (with the exception of some 'ufo' type stories) i did not find reference to an advanced civilization that predates their history, so at this point, i have chosen to exclude them.
not because their history is "unimportant", but because my search was for the keepers of knowledge, and those cultures that chose to record this knowledge with the intent of passing it down to those that come after them. And although they did seem to be ritualistically traditional, that was an aspect i did not find the ancient chinese to possess.

After you gain a good understanding of the knowledge of the ancient cultures around the world, i would suggest that you then compare this understanding to the universal theologies found in ancient India and Tibet (although their written histories do not go back nearly as far, many of the universal principals are similar)

As you go through this process, pay close attention to the use of geometry, astronomy, mathematics, science, architecture, 
references to magnetism, electricity, and the "machines" of their repsective god(s). What you will find is that this pre-ancient civilization played a great role in the development of almost every ancient culture around the world. They had aircraft, weapons, and technology that may have been more advanced then we are today.

How or Why they were destroyed remains a mystery, as it seems that nearly the entire world suffered a similar fate, and was rebuilt.





Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 05, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
@ jeanna

this seems to be all here. you can click the Full-Screen button to get rid of the stuff around it.
for some reason i cant get this to print out properly. This is the same .pdf that is floating around everywhere else.,
it appears to be a scan someone copied from an original coral-castle pamphlet.

http://magneticcurrent.blogspot.com/search/label/Magnetic%20Current (http://magneticcurrent.blogspot.com/search/label/Magnetic%20Current)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gyulasun on August 05, 2010, 12:20:31 PM
Hi Jeanna,

Here is one possibility:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

rgds,  Gyula
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ThothTheSecond on August 05, 2010, 04:57:32 PM
As far as I know, the original did not have any illustrations.  Those were done by someone a few years back.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jeanna on August 05, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
Hi Jeanna,

Here is one possibility:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

rgds,  Gyula

THANK YOU, GYULA!
That is a very clear copy.
I have saved it and I will use it.

jeanna
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@Sm0ky2,
Thanks but...
FYI
That link took me to a blog page with an embedded copy which I could read, but to download it I was taken to the scribd page to login again. (and a charge for it)

I find your discussion of the ancient languages very interesting.
Thank you for sharing your experience.

jeanna
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 06, 2010, 12:04:31 AM
Hi Jeanna,

Here is one possibility:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

rgds,  Gyula

this is the same "public  .PDF" file.
i can tell you where the words are written in large bold lettering, this is edited from the person who made the file.
and are sometimes in the wrong place, like on page 13, the words at the top, should actually be at the bottom.

i might have to agree with what Thoth said, that the original may be text only....
the illustrations are very helpful though, at least to someone like me with a 'visual mind'
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: NetViewer2011 on August 06, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
What you will find is that this pre-ancient civilization played a great role in the development of almost every ancient culture around the world. They had aircraft, weapons, and technology that may have been more advanced then we are today.

How or Why they were destroyed remains a mystery, as it seems that nearly the entire world suffered a similar fate, and was rebuilt.

You might find this interesting Smokey2.  It's a bit long, 13 episodes but contain a wealth of info.  I don't agree with everything in them, but I have had enough exposure to many cultures around the world such that many of the ideas they presented rings true to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szTppqfCL0g&feature=fvw

In regard to pre-ancient Chinese past, very few Westerners know this.  During the Three Kingdom waring period emerged a famous strategist.  He is renowned for his intelect and mastery of all the school of science (weather prediction, psychology, logistic, etc.).  He was featured in a movie called "Battle for Red Cliff" where he predicted that the wind would reverse direction on a certain night and employed it in his fire attack strategy.  You could say he is the Chinese equivalent of Leonard DaVinci.  On one of these campaign, there were a shortage of men  to run the supply line.  So he devise what is translated literallly as "wooden ox or wooden horses" .  They didn't require food or rest and can carry supply tirelessly.  (Sound to me like robots or automatons).  One of the most interesting aspect of this legend is that, it made a point to show that the strategist never claimed credit for the invention, he claimed that he saw the schematics and plans in one of the northern tribe.  Why is this significant?  Many cultures around the world claim that they emerged from caves or "underworld" (like in South America, India, Hopi tribe in North America, the Sumarian in Middle East).  And what do you find in northern China? Mountains, which means there are caves.  To me this is similar to all the private and military bunkers that are built by our modern societies to wait out catastrophy.  In the Artic is a bunker built to house all the world plant seeds (just a hunch, but maybe they know the earth surface is going to be scorched?)

Okie back to Ed stuff.  You now perk my interest in this coded message thingy.  So I looked at the 2 link to youtube that you posted.  Unfortunately, the train of thoughts of the author was too fragmented that I could not follow what he's trying to convey.  Maybe you can teach us how to decipher it?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gyulasun on August 06, 2010, 12:29:40 AM
this is the same "public  .PDF" file.
i can tell you where the words are written in large bold lettering, this is edited from the person who made the file.
and are sometimes in the wrong place, like on page 13, the words at the top, should actually be at the bottom.

i might have to agree with what Thoth said, that the original may be text only....
the illustrations are very helpful though, at least to someone like me with a 'visual mind'

Hi sm0ky2,

I did not know that, sorry.  Then what you mean has perhaps between 30-40 pages only. Did the person change the original Ed text, I wonder.

Here is a pdf file without drawings:
http://www.gallardo.net/gen-t/leedskalnin.pdf

Gyula
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 06, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
thats the one i have from many years ago
also the same as what i found on KeeleyNet

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on August 06, 2010, 01:40:51 AM
@all

Hello everyone , sorry for the delay my video just wont play ... i will make a new one.

Most of the theory is in the book but the castle is the schematic for the machine ...

I will post many more details , and explanation for hint found at coral castle

Like ring twice , blow horn , there are some elements i did not yet figured out like the 3 bear cave ...

I am glad to see this topic starts to get traffic  :D

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 06, 2010, 02:37:46 AM
im having a problem with the word "order".
ive gone back through all 4 books, and i cant find that he uses that terminology anywhere,...

yet its come out twice now.

 "when the order is the same"
"in the same order" [ the next step he talks about placing a 3rd wire-magnet above the one thats already floating]

ive adjusted my algorithm forward and backwards by three letters, which seems to be the margin of error between paragraphs, and no discernable words come out. so thats the only thing it could be. which raises the question:
what does that mean?
i assume he means with like-poles facing each other, but why doesnt he just say that?
it doesnt 'fit' right to me...

the 4th step appears to be floating a heavy u-shaped magnet above the 3 wire magnets, so i need to make sure i have the rest of the message correct before i get to there...

the word "other" is also there in both instances, but that would mean a break in the algorithm mid-paragraph, which i have not otherwise encountered.

i dont know how that would change things...

"when the other is the same..." <-- that may fit
"in the same other North side East" <- does't fit at all..
so the word would have to be "order".


Ed is making my head hurt.....





Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: NTesla on August 06, 2010, 10:21:16 AM
One theory is that all Ed did was to utilize geopolymers and all the stories about his implied anti-gravity skills and odd machinery were simply stage props to ensure a steady stream of paid visitors to his site as a form of income.

Look up on Google "Professor Joseph Davidovits", President of the Geopolymer Institute and also read http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_megalithconstruction.htm

The geopolymer "answer" to pyramid construction is highly plausible...unfortunately it falls down when you get to some of the huge blocks that could only have been carved out of solid rock.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 06, 2010, 03:54:14 PM
One theory is that all Ed did was to utilize geopolymers and all the stories about his implied anti-gravity skills and odd machinery were simply stage props to ensure a steady stream of paid visitors to his site as a form of income.

Look up on Google "Professor Joseph Davidovits", President of the Geopolymer Institute and also read http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_megalithconstruction.htm

The geopolymer "answer" to pyramid construction is highly plausible...unfortunately it falls down when you get to some of the huge blocks that could only have been carved out of solid rock.

after reading that article, i felt like the idiot of an author "owed" me my 27 minutes back....

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 07, 2010, 05:49:59 AM
It all in the design I already put in on the coral castle video
start at the door Ive never read his book but I got the code from the mustard seed bible verse 1027  so 1 circle of 0 the wire around the rock charge the rock but polorise it by removing the current out the top the two alternating manets on his fly wheel then you need the water box and after you polorise the rock the charge it without removing the energy the more you charge it the more it will float your taking the frequency and putting it from above the rock to under the rock so after you charge it the remove the frequency back to the ground
sending the seed back to the earth
first a blade=polorise the perfect ballance spinning door
then the ear his dual ear heart
then his charge which is the corn and his spining flywheel
then he left the final key in the c take the energy from the top back to earth  the seed
but the real key was the arched v the ability to store energy in the entire castle
ch@record7.com 4 questions
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 07, 2010, 07:18:35 AM
Sorry i didnt do the math for you
1072710
10 + 7 = 17 1+7=8
8x2=16
1+6=7
2+7+1=10
7+2+7=16
1+7=8+8=1+7
         16
so its your whole loop of infinity every way
just need faith to move the mountain
but if you beleive vibration is movement
then with my very breath i can move anything
now how much is the question
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 07, 2010, 07:32:26 AM
you know... one thing cletushowell said actually made sense to me...

ED shows us how a single coil, or even a straight wire, can form a magnet in a long piece of iron, at perpendicular angles.

if he polarized the entire rock... he could then easily move it through the air on its own magnetic field....

perhaps this is what he is trying to tell us in his message.

Can the coral rock be magnetized in this manner?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on August 07, 2010, 04:30:06 PM
A water box was mentioned. I wonder if the coral was saturated with water seeing how its porous.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 08, 2010, 07:07:03 AM
Yes not to much girls i think thats the term he uses
so yes mist the rock soak it to discharge it
be care full when you carve it its full of radiation
discharge it first with good amount of water
i burned my eye with radiation a black hole in my eye
but but i reversed it by absorbing the energy backwards
like jesus repolorised the blind mans eyes with mud
but i absored it with black till the blind spot left
heres the polarity for the rectangle every shape has
antigravity polarity but rocks you can polorise to this every shape so you dont need specific polarity 
++--
++++
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 08, 2010, 07:33:27 AM
And strang enough from the math i did not only
did he have the key to everything the coral castle could move as one
but not on flat land it has to be on a hill
so thats why i beleive he moved it and using the room
it can actualy be controlled telepathic
and with the capstone finished it self charges
my earth battery he was very smart
i enjoy watching how all these scientist get ridiculed
so when they finaly solve it the f the world
with there inventions its kinda like a this is what you get for calling me stupid
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: enox on August 20, 2010, 11:28:26 AM
Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum and pretty new to the story of Ed. I heard it first time on coast to coast am and found it so fascinating!

I found this good documentary on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15_DQUm94s&list=QL

One guy talks about how he thinks Ed levitated the rocks, please check it out if you haven't seen it before.

I don't have any real knowledge about magnets and things like that but I just find this so interresting and fascinating.

What do you guys think? could the person in the video be on to something?

Maybe the methods is so simple that people over-complicate it to try to understand it.

By the way have anybody here tried to do the experiments Ed mentioned in his book? I am sure they play a big part as to understand the whole picture.

Best regards,
Michael
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 20, 2010, 07:36:22 PM
there is a big giant energy source you dont know its working but it is it was built by solomon
the great pyramid is east
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 20, 2010, 07:41:29 PM
the u shape magnet is the rainbow look at the polarity I gave you imagine the rainbow crossing between
--++
++++ on the top take that rainbow energy back to the ground put the rainbow under the rock
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Pirate88179 on August 21, 2010, 11:00:38 AM
enox:

Thanks, I will check out that video.  I have the original books from coral castle from a trip my Dad made there some years ago.  Well, I mean they are not the original original books but copies sold there at the castle and not from online somewhere.

I too heard some interviews on Coast which got me interested in Ed many years back.  One great interview was by a guy that wrote the book "Waiting For Agnes" about Ed's love life, castle construction and move, and interviews with the folks in the area when coral castle was built.  I forget the author's name though.

Bill
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 21, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
if you haven't already, i think everyone should take a moment to watch Dave's videos.
all of them...

http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist (http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 21, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
Dave is cool he developed a way to show energy halo
to anyone that cares to look
this is what tesla sae all the time you
mostly see them at night around light
you can train your eye to see them
dont look at object look at where the magnetic feild would be
need enough visine or tears you can even connect
your fingers and watch energy drag back and forth
like hes doing try to explain that go to mental ward
but daves got it with camera most use a tv 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on August 22, 2010, 01:35:10 AM
Anti gravity is basically a work function.   You getup in the morning after your total defeat by gravity and employ antigravity to go about your life.  When they oxidize vast amounts of hydrogen and oxygen in a rocket engine the rocket flys in the face of gravity.  What amazes me is that they put all the fuel into the object trying to be lifted.  This of course requires that you use more fuel in the first millisecond after ignition then you will during the entire burn lifting the fuel.  This is a huge problem with any chemically driven machine.  This is why I never fillerup unless necessary to make it from station to station.  The amount of energy accelerating and deaccelerating the fuel is inefficient.   The problem with moving anything is that you have to change the vector of your movement,  Even when we are sleeping or at rest we are moving.  The solar system as a whole is moving at 300km per second.  When we want to move in anyway we encounter mass in motion in one direction tends to stay in motion in that direction.  Mass at rest tends to stay at rest which is basically saying the same thing over again.  The rest state is only a relative state to the observer.  The resting body has inertia invested in a vector.  If the observer and the resting mass have their inertia invested in the same vector then it appears that the observed body rests.  Now along comes Einstein and says that there is a limit to how much inertia can be invested into a vector.  At somepoint the amount of inertia starts to mess around with direction itself.  This gives rise to his theory of general relativity which implies that there is no motion other than relative motion.  There is no absolute rest frame which means there is no way to quantify inertia.    This is all based on an idea he had on a train.  If the train moved faster than the light being reflected from objects his reality would breakdown because the light reflected from the objects couldnt get to him fast enough to support his reality. The speed of light through a nonscattering medium then became the limit on how fast something could go in a given direction.  This something had to be massless otherwise it would distort the spacetime continuom itself because it had too much vectored inertia.  So now comes the birth of massless speed of light in a vacuum particles mitigating motion issues between different inertial constructs.  Gravity became dependent not on vectored inertia but on what vectored inertia does so it will not exceed the velocity of massless light particles.  Now according to general relativity the big huge rocks around the castle have a meaningless vectored inertia.  It is only relative to other motions.  The Earth has enough of what it takes to bend the spacetime contiuom so that things fall into its rest frame.  Now say we take a field a spot or whatever and instigate a movement of mass in a vector that exceeds the ability of the Earth to bendspacetime.  The moon does this and we see liquids with freedom of motion moving into the spacetime curvature of the moon.  To do this we must quantify the vectored inertial investment of the Earth.  Not relative to the Sun the galactic core or any other thing.  We must quantify it relative to an absolute at rest object.  The vacuum is a good thing.  The Earth moves through the vacuum at 300km/sec.  The mass of the Earth is mucho so it has a good sized gravitational field.  It isnt very fast compared to the propogation of light but since it is so massive it does a pretty good job of bending spacetime.  So in order to make rocks float we need to make a little tiny moon that we can direct from one place to another so the rocks fall into its rest frame instead of falling into the rest frame of the Earth.  Say Ed or Tesla for that matter can accelerate mass in the form of electrons to velocities near the speed of light in a contained field..  The object would have to take on a velocity and mass that surpasses the entire vm of the Earth.  The angular momentum of the Earth is slow.  Only a thousand miles per hour at the Equator.  So to overcome this we must create a local gravitational field that extends from a body with a velocity of more than a 1000 miles per hour and a mass equal to that of the Earth below the object moving at 1000 mph.  Obviously we are not going to move the entire Earth and make it spin at a 1000mph to a new spot over our rocks to be moved.  We can however create a highvelocity movement of lesser mass to hover over the rocks.  The rocks then fall towards the new heavenly body and appear to float around.  So we need to accelerate mass to realitivistic velocities.  Assume we can accelerate electrons in a vacuum tube to close to c.  The vm of the electron tube current is now dependent on the number of electrons moving at near c from one end of the tube to the other.  Since amperage equals volts divided by resistance and resistance is near 0 then currents through the tube can approach infinity with just one volt across the tube.  Zero goes into one an infinite number of times. The biggest problem you have is that you cant get the electrons to the tube fast enough to be accelerated and the anode starts to heatup and create resistance from the electron collisions.  If the electrons miss the anode or bent by the magnetic field of the conductor supplying the electrons the anode heating problem is mitigated.  This can only happen in a tube that is in pulse mode.  If you hit it with sustained voltage the anode becomes effectively shielded from the cathode by the electrons traversing the tube.  That first pulse of pure dc across that tube can pull current levels in the millions of amperes.  A million amperes moving through a conductor of one or two loops is two million ampere turns.  A typical one hundred horsepower motor has say a total 100 turns at 50amps.  Thats only 5thousand ampere turns.  The circuit described is two million ampere turns.  You will notice that Tesla only has a two turn primary of very very heavy sometimes nitrogen cooled wire.  I believe he was anticiapating large amounts of current to flow through his primaries.  These currents only limited by the capacity of the scource voltage.  He was into shuffling electrons between two capacitors and creating heavenly bodies that could move things at very long distances.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 03:58:43 AM
Dam that was to many big words
here a picture says a thousand
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgHQw4KSpuw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

polorise blade
charge the globe
remove with the c
back to below
store energy in the globe
or create your own plasma from frequency
go anywhere antigravity
energy goes up first
reverse of a helicopter
the energy is bending the air on the top of the wing
the energy is going up
then the air is going down antigravity now make the whole thing
the wing no air just frequency magnetism
temperature 
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 04:35:10 AM
Jesus used parables ill do the same
our energy use is backwards when im done
it will all be right beings I have to fix everything
a wind up car
you store the energy in the spring
now you dont use the most energy on take off
you remove some resistance
the more you remove the faster it goes
if you have a weight holding it the spring
is not wasting energy its stored
now take a air batter or stubblefeild coil
build your self a big antigravity
machine put a big enough power coil
to use the put some good weights to hold it down
ir just short the energy remove the short
as you want to go now your most power is
upon use 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 04:43:44 AM
And best of all its free you dont need perfect
polarity and all complex shit just compesate
if you had a 12 car battery whats the best way to
get it to lift effeciently
well it would not be magnetism
it would not be frequency
it would be temperature
so if you had a ballon we could do
two things use steam or hydrogen
and it would lift pretty easy
now if we use dr stiflers frequency
we can make hydrogen more effeciently
now if we use stubblfeild coil
we can make magnetism very effeciently
and then all three you see the battery become very easily
antigravity
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on August 22, 2010, 05:15:07 AM
    I always imagined a roadway with pulsed lasers strung side of the road.  The lazer ionizes the air between the car and the lazer.  Now you have a superconductor to pass current between the car and the scource.  The car would also have to have a lazer on board to cause a plasma under the car to complete the circuit to ground.  The current passing through the resistance of the car could be a current flowing through a dc motor,  No fuel on board.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Pirate88179 on August 22, 2010, 05:58:14 AM
Sparks:

Your "fuel on board" example of the rocket is exactly correct from what I have read.  This is why an Estes small rocket can not reach orbit.  It needs more fuel....so it has to be bigger and heavier....so then ...it needs more fuel....so now it has to be even bigger....etc.  This is why the Redstone rocket of the Mercury (early) series could not achieve orbit.  They switched to the Atlas (Glenn) for the first orbital flight. (US)  This was the smallest rocket that could lift the fuel and payload to orbit that we could come up with. (17,500 mph)

Your approach reminds me of the early electric trains (still in use in Europe in some places) where they have contacts spring loaded above the train to get power from wires along the tracks.  No fuel on board.  The engines were smaller, lighter and probably more efficient.

Excellent observation.

Bill
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 09:32:34 AM
Fuck you guys are so far behind im drunk 1 hour ask me anything after that
your fucked back to drawing board
these are the top scientist
lid
stubbilfield
dr stiffler
joueltheif
chief prince of meshech
air battery
if you cant see that your fucking lost
as can be
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
And bendini and fucking marco rodin
evenn though hes the 666
hes second to me because first we have a deal
take over the world then play chess
devil went down to georgia made a deal
I aint afraid of the 666 because he cant kill me God sent
me and him both here to war and I win
so fuck him 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Pirate88179 on August 22, 2010, 09:55:26 AM
Fuck you guys are so far behind im drunk 1 hour ask me anything after that
your fucked back to drawing board
these are the top scientist
lid
stubbilfield
dr stiffler
joueltheif
chief prince of meshech
air battery
if you cant see that your fucking lost
as can be

Hell, I'm the one that started the joule thief topic here.  I forget how many views we have now but it is a bunch.

Bill
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 10:24:27 AM
Well then bill ill add you to the list
are you bill nye the science guy
whats your real name
and you should know the power to warp drive is the v
the spike one way harnesses light the orher reflects
put a led to your finger then flip sides youll see what i mean
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on August 22, 2010, 10:38:15 AM
Bbowling green kkentuky i been there
the corvette museum and plant well you problyblike my letter to kim dung
fucking neal of north korea
telling him im going to wipe him off the map
gor his mistake of sinking our ship called the corvette
in march but seriously put some mire hp
in the car dodge viper is fast as fuck
but the windshields to low to see out of
and the stick shifts a bitchwith one leg
and no cup holders or heads up display sucks
nd i kinda like the memory seats
so ever bitch i let drive it
i dont have to reset the seat but serioulsy
fix the abs default when you peal out it should not
registers no traction and send your brakes vibrating to the floor
fuck and the green heads up didplay blends in with green ligts at 100
plus fix that almost killed me thank God for good brakes
and widen the tires a bit to match viper
the front offset is fucking stupid limiting after market wheels
and on top all that shit put a electri fucking top
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sunshine on September 20, 2010, 03:04:49 PM
The flywheel MUST have 16 magnets.  First build the flywheel.  Mount the flywheel above the rock on a platform built near the top of a tripod above the rock. Attach a wire from the hole under the flywheel and wrap it around the rock so that it touches nothing but the flywheel and rock (lift the rock on one side with a lever).  Crank the flywheel clockwise to reverse the polarity of the rock.

When the polarity is reversed use a rock of the same type mounted on a wagon and slide it under the "charged" rock.  The upper rock is repelled by the lower rock and gently pull the wagon.....viola.....the upper rock floats above the lower until it is in the desired position.  A quick jerk of the wagon (think pulling a table cloth out from under a table full of dishes), and the "moved" rock is still polarized, but not quite as easy to move because the "floor" of what is under it is not completely the same mineral/chemical compound.  Work the rock around so that it is completely in the position that you desire and then un charge the field by attaching the flywheel, wire and cranking counter clockwise.

Sounds that are similar to mythical "Sirens" are needed and used somehow.

I got this from a person who had (they are gone now) ESP and visited Coral Castle.

Cletus....please spare us and find something better to do beside posting on forums when you feel the need to get smashed;-)  You may well have shut down an awesome thread.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sunshine on September 20, 2010, 03:19:05 PM
A little more from the person with ESP:

Ed learned some of what he knew from being treated with homeopathic medicine.  Magnetically charged particles that cured a disease he contracted when working in Canada.

The reason he didn't share is because he knew he had too much power and in the wrong hands it could be deadly.

He almost died several times from the effects of antimagnetism on his own body.

He suffered horribly after moving rocks.

He got cancer and died because of the effects of antimagnetism on his own body.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: cletushowell on September 20, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
Ya well have fun I already lifted the rock
but my power is to much for me as well
if you only knew the stuff you face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gJqxZab4BM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
and I improved this with my ion jet
as well but fuck it i really dont care have a nice time
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sunshine on September 24, 2010, 01:54:13 AM
I'm impressed Cletus....you really did float a rock:-)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on October 09, 2010, 12:43:45 AM
@all

Ok there is a lot more i have to say on the subject , but first i have found this video that reinforce my assumptions from the beginning of the tread , the shift could also explain the glaciation era to the simple passage of the pole trough continents , Russia is supposed to get the worst winter in 1000 years , hum , i can not see why the poles are melting now and keep the same average coverage its moving ...

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/57032/2012_The_Polar_Shift_Explained/


Ok this on is for fun relatively well made starts to get quite interesting around the third movie , i just want to mention because omitted in the video is that 19.47 is also 1947 the year of the crash...

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56957/Sacred_Geometry_UFO_s__amp__Symbols_Part_1_5/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56955/Sacred_Geometry_UFO_s__amp__Symbols_Part_2_5/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56953/Sacred_Geometry_UFO_s__amp__Symbols_Part_3_5/   

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56952/Sacred_Geometry_UFO_s__amp__Symbols_Part_4_5/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56951/Sacred_Geometry_UFO_s__amp__Symbols_Part_5_5/

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on October 09, 2010, 10:54:26 PM
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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2010, 08:10:52 AM »QuoteQuote from: Loner on August 24, 2010, 07:53:33 AMNot to sound too stupid, But I would like to replicate this, but have seen no plan or detailed description to enable me to do that.

Is such information available?  If on another site, please list a link and I'll run over there.

I'm VERY eager to see what interactions there are via basic electrical interactions, as in, what levels "Overload" these intrinsic ones...

Any information would be appreciated!  (I'm thinking inverse control...)


ok, FIRST you need to understand what the Perpetual Motion Holder is.  Ed Leedskalnin gave this magical wonder to the world.
its basically a metal loop, with a piece that can be open and closed like a switch. Ed used a seperate metal piece, called a "keeper", its like the bar you see across a "U"-magnet
a coil is wound around each end of the loop, opposite the gap.
and wound opposite one another, to form two electromagnets.

when current is sent through the coils, and the "keeper" is in place, a magnetic current will develop through the entire loop, holding the keeper in place. even after the electricity is shut off.

After you understand this simple concept
then go to Dave's YouTube page and watch all his videos.
he shows a few different ways to make the PMH.
its all the same concept, just applied differently.

this new device is modeled after Ed's wheel, found in coral castle

Dave added his own creativity to it, and discovered that it radiates energy.

its a very simple design, and Dave walks you through the building process in YouTube video. plus several other videos of him playing with it. I have to tell you, what you see in the videos doesnt do it justice, you have to see this for yourself. (all words of caution i mentioned above still apply)

This is Scotty demonstrating a PMH holding a 23lb weight,
    with magnetic current.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZdEJALdiQ

and this is Dave's chanell
http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist


a post from a different forum...david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: shylo on October 14, 2010, 12:22:48 AM
Hello David ....I've just started hearing, reading about  this Leedskalnin guy,...as I'm fairly new to this site....I watched potheads video's...steps #1 through #5 or #4 I'm not sure .....the ones with the pieces of galv pipe cut , then squeezed into egg shapes,..then connected around some,..HDPE(whatever that is)?....he only attaches 4 pieces,...90degs. apart....but I noticed in the video that one of the pieces has a little coil around it....I think its' mentioned that he charges it ....once charged it retains a magnetic field??.....sorry I'm pretty far behind....shylo
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 10:55:03 AM
Better late than never I suppose.  ;D
Thanks for the kind words Sm0key.
Before I begin, here is a link to ALL Ed's writings.
I had a falling out with Leedskalnin.com, but the notes are there so print them out from there as they are photocopied from the originals.
http://leedskalnin.com/Leedskalnins-Writings-MAGNETIC-CURRENT.html (http://leedskalnin.com/Leedskalnins-Writings-MAGNETIC-CURRENT.html)
BTW. I don't agree with anything on that site!!
--------------------------
@Sm0key, You found the asnwer (No1) to the "looking East"
It is a positional thing.
All Ed's experiments are written in real time as if you are actually doing everything as you read. Therefore you are standing in the South West and you are looking East. North is on your left as well as a wooden box and copper wire. The battery's neg terminal is in front of you and you will be tapping that terminal quite often.
You will also push a coil from West to East from the position you are in now, and the U magnets N pole is on the N side...on your left. ;D
You see...all in real time!
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Someone wrote about the moon coming down earlier......
Ans No2 "Those people who have been wondering why the moon does not come down all they have to do is to give the moon one- half of a turn so that the North end would be in South side, and South end in the North side, and then the moon would come down." Ed. L
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MK1, here is some notes for you. Ans No3.
"Get a small paper box to
go in between the prongs of the U shape magnet, put iron filings in it. Wrap six-inch long soft iron wire with paper. put the wire in box in iron filings, now put the box between the U shape magnet prongs. Raise the wire up, then you will see filing strands clinging to the insulated iron wire. Raise the wire up slowly, then the filing strands will sag and fail, take the box out. put the wire in the filings again, raise up and you will see that the wire is no magnet. but during the time it was between the U shape magnet prongs it was a magnet. This shows that during the time the coil moves through the U shape magnet the coil becomes a magnet, but its function is double. Some individual North and South Pole magnets run through the coil's wire crosswise, and some run through the coil's wire lengthwise.

Maybe you think that it is not fair to use iron wire to demonstrate how magnetic currents are made, but I can tell you that if I do not use iron core in the coil I can make more of the magnetic currents with soft iron wire coil than I can with copper wire coil, so you see it is perfectly good to use iron wire to demonstrate how magnetic currents are made.You can do the same thing with the copper wire in using iron filings but only on a smaller scale."  Ed. L
Scotty.


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
I have to break up my posts because when I get so far everything goes nuts???
Everytime I type a letter my cursor goes back to the start??? Then I have to scroll dow to type the next letter and I can't bold anything? If I make a shorter post everything is fine.  ???

Ans 4. Each pole is weaker in one hemisphere on Earth.
So if you drop 2 objects of the same mass in the Northern hemisphere and one of the masses is a magnet then the magnet will fall faster and its North pole will hit the ground first.
In the Southern hemisphere the North pole magnets can push up more, and the the South pole magnets cal pull up more than they can in the Northern hemisphere.

Mk1 here is Ans 5. "Now I will tell you what magnetic current is. Magnetic current is the same as electric current is a wrong expression. Really it is not one current, they are two currents, one current is composed of North Pole individual magnets in concentrated streams and the other is composed of South Pole individual magnets in concentrated streams, and they are running one stream against the other stream in whirling, screwlike fashion, and with high speed. One current alone if it be North Pole magnet current or South Pole magnet current it cannot run alone. To run one current will have to run against the other." Ed. L

Well my screen has gone nuts so this is the end????

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on October 15, 2010, 11:17:17 AM
@scotty 1

Welcome to this tread , i had my self problems in the tread , had to reinstall everything , now it seems to work ok .

I did read EDs book , agree with him , but not always on the interpretation ...

This tread is far from over ...

Glad you joined !

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
You see.
Electric current is a wrong expression.
It is not one current...THEY ARE 2 CURRENTS.
Those currents are magnetic currents.

The metal is not the real magnet....the real magnet is the substance that is circulating in the metal.
 "Each particle in the substance is an individual magnet, and both North and South pole magnets." Ed. L

They are magnets to the observer, but only a "kind" to themselves.
They emit nothing.
They are the cosmic forces.

" We have North and South pole magnets, positive and negative electricity, protons, and electrons, positrons and mesons and alpha, beta and gamma rays. Now why such a confusion? Does nature really need so many things in the perpetual transformation of things, on building up the matter and again taking it into parts? I think all that nature needs is three things, the North and South pole magnets and the neutral particles.  Each kind of those three things can act differently with different speed and different combinations, and so they can accomplish different results. I believe the prospective physicists first should learn what magnets and electricity are, then they will have a sound base for their experiments and their calculations." Ed. L

"Every period of material life goes through two periods, construction and destruction period, but the life itself is indestructible, life has no beginning and no end. For instance when zinc in a battery is taken in parts by acid, the North and South pole magnets that held the zinc together, they leave the zinc and if right connections are made they will come out of the battery, then they can be used for other purposes........Now you can see when the zinc went dead those North and South pole magnets that held the zinc together they did not die but escaped and went some where else." Ed. L

The neutral particle is like a dead "thing" or "Body" or "carrier" different from the magnets themselves. The NP is like a particle of iron in its association with the magnets.....more or less? I can't actually see them.... ;D

The soft iron throws out the magnets, but they dam up in the hard steel.

During the time the coil is in the middle of the U magnet, the magnets themselves are POINTING across the wire and not running along it lengthways.

Each particle in the substance is an individual, and each individual can "POINT"
This raises a question. What do they look like?
We know they are individuals and they can point in a direction.
To change direction they must physically turn around, to angularly displace.
That is why Tesla could never get a perfect spark gap.  ;D
Scotty.



Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 12:37:58 PM
Magnetic Currents are made by concentrating, dividing then shifting the North and South pole magnets from one place to another....as Ed said.

"When they run in (that is, INTO) the coil they are in bulk form. The coil's part is to divide those little individual magnets from bulk form in small paths." Ed.L  (they go INTO the coil from the magnet bar) () Scotty.

"Now about the sphere magnet.  If you have a strong magnet you can change the poles in the sphere in any side you want or take the poles out so the sphere will not be a magnet any more. From this you can see that the magnet can be shifted and concentrated......" Ed. L

" This experiment shows that if you start the North and South Pole individual magnets in an orbit, then they will never stop." Ed. L

Each particle in the concentrated substance is pulled from the front and pushed from behind.
That is why we have motion.

"They are in constant motion, they are running one kind of magnets against the other kind, and if guided in the right channels they possess perpetual power. The North and South Pole magnets they are cosmic force, they hold together this earth and everything on it. Each North and South Pole magnet is equal in strength, but the strength of each individual magnet doesn't amount to anything." Ed. L

" One current alone if it be North Pole magnet current or South Pole magnet current it cannot run alone. To run one current will have to run against the other." Ed. L

" Gravitation must be caused by the matter in the middle of the earth, and more concentrated than Uranium. When Uranium atoms burst they release the North and South pole individual magnets that held the atom together, then the magnets scatter all around, but when the atoms burst in the middle of the earth, and many burst at the same time, they can only run from the middle to the outside. When the North and South pole magnets are running alongside each other and in the same direction, they have no attraction for the other kind. They only attract if they are running one kind against the other kind. When the magnets are running out of the middle of the earth, as soon as they meet an object they attract it, on account of the fact that in any object there is both kinds of magnets in it."

"This experiment shows two things, one that the magnets can be sent out in straight streams, and the other whatever kind of magnets you are sending out the other kind of magnets are coming back to you." Ed. L

So Ed is saying that the atomic bursts from the center of the Earth are sending out straight streams of BOTH kinds of magnet particles.
Those magnets particles are not attracting each other, but are attracting the atom orbits of the matter that is in their path...which is all of us.  ;D

Scotty.



Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 12:42:18 PM
To read Ed's notes you need to concentrate, then divide the words up into small path's and shift them around from one place to another.  :D

Sorry...I just couldn't resist.  ;D
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on October 15, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
Hey Mk1.
I missed your post?
You will find that I just cross reference Ed's notes into various points.
I don't add my own thoughts much at all, but I have dug fairly deep and can demonstrate physically almost all of what I post using Ed's tests. Otherwise it is just my opinion!

About the magnets in Ed's notes we can only deduct from a few points, but by applying some Platonic reasoning we can extrapolate a bit without it being our opinion, but more of a "must be" argument.

Considering a single magnet particle by itself we have to reason that nothing can emit from it, as it is the base of all things. It can only "be"
It has no field. It is what we observe as a field.
It has no field yet there are 2 kinds, and since they are equal in strength, they both have no fields but they have strength?
Where do they get it from?
Once you start thinking about the magnets themselves it gets a bit philosophical.
Ed also says that the magnets can orbit a neutral particle, which means that they must be smaller than the neutral particle.

Ed shows that the magnets in a coil are pointing various ways at different moments, so we can deduce things from that, never leaving the original path.

So in my posts you will see that I treat Ed's words as he meant them, and simply build upon them by reference.

I don't know if he was right or wrong as I haven't made anything to utilise his theory in a practical way, but I learnt about electricity from Ed's notes, and then learnt about "electrons" later, so I suppose I'm bias.  ;D

I like Ed's theory...it's nice and neat and simple.
The practical answer (if there is one) is probably in my head already but I just don't see it.
It would most likely be a combination of Ed's results, but there is alot of possibilities to go through until the right one is found.  :-\

Scotty.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ThothTheSecond on October 15, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a treasure map that Ed left behind ? It was mentioned near the end of the "In Search Of" episode on Leedskalnin narrated by Leonard Nemoy.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on October 17, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
  screaminvern (2 days ago) Hi david, I finished respacing the pipe segments on my wheel. I energized it with a 12V batt. I have a geode about the size of a tennis ball, and yes I can see a glimmer around it, and as a matter of fact when I move the geode over the top of the pipes, approx. 3-4 inches above, there seems to be what you discribed as a vortex.
 a comment from my youube chnnel.....david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on October 18, 2010, 03:04:56 AM
tHi-

So far, I have been a lurker in this thread, but also an avid reader of the forum and following David's YouTube vids. I KNOW that he is correct in describing what he feels / felt, while experimenting with his device.

Here is my experience: I don't have resources (time, mostly) to build David's rig. So I built a small 3" PMH which consists of two semi-circular pieces of spring steel, filed on the ends, to make a slightly oval profile. I used about 25 wraps of copper wire and energized with a car battery. Both halves are magnetized together (locked). The overall shape looks a bit like an egg. (There are no heels or legs sticking out.)

I mounted this to a circular piece of plastic with zip ties, used a carriage bolt with a hex-nut - on the underside of the disk - and place the bolt in my variable speed drill and spun it at approx. 500 RPM.

Using a variety of stones that I have collected over the years I tried every one (including Amethyst geodes which contain quartz) and felt very little - if anything.

Then I tried a green rock I have which is very heavy for it's size which definitely has a great deal of crystalline composition (might be a form of Serpentine). Using this rock I DID feel a PUSH in my hand which varied depending on how I moved the rock in relationship to the spinning PMH. Looking closely at this stone, it does have at least one surface which could be viewed as a "cavity" (CAVITATION?) that is a finger-nail sized depression in the surface. It was near this surface at about 10 degree angle to the spin plane, that provided the most feedback (although I sometimes did feel a similar push using a pointed end of the stone nearly touching the "axle."

Comment to Dave: Hang in there, buddy, I know you are right - check your geode for cavities / surface features that could be somehow collecting and amplifying the effect.

I also noticed that Dave's rig is without one feature that Ed's rig included (and I have seen it in other's pictures on the forum) which is the "Quatrefoil" shape (PMH?) on the top edge of Ed's machine. I would theorize that adding a part shaped like this on Dave's device may amplify or "tune" the output??

I am also in Oregon, I live well North of Dave, but both my wife and I have felt a clear "push" when moving this stone over the PMH. I am tempted to take it to his "neck of the woods" and try it there. I also saw (with my eyes) some "interaction" between the stone and the PMH but I doubt it could be filmed and I am trying to decide if I really saw what I believe I saw.

Also, I feel a little odd when I am around the PMH for extended periods of time. I slept with it on the night-stand last night and slept very well, but woke feeling very off - something  in the pit of my stomach???

-Van
his was posted yesterday......... david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on October 21, 2010, 08:20:44 AM
@all

Hello everyone , thanks for your patience .

I have this Ed clue that illustrate my point .

Look at the Florida table chair spacing and dot on the flat top .

I was right about looking east ...

@scotty

I will take time to answer all your citation , and explain my views on the subject , simply stating that magnetic current means electricity doesn't work for me , i think he speaks about the magnetic reaction in iron induced by electricity , you know a transformer core dose not hold electricity but magnetism , we have a really basic understanding of how to use it in its magnetic form .

Once i make the reveal , you will all see how simple it is ...

Mark   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 04, 2010, 03:36:03 AM
@all

I would have loved to make this step by step , with some video example's
I think people are better one step at a time , but i ask you to jump 15 so there we are , i hope this is simple enough ...

@scotty

I bet you can test it ! see the huge transformer at the site of the wheel , it can only slow the wheel unless it part of its function , Ed used magnetism without converting it to electricity , the hard part now it to get good soft iron .Steel will not be useful here because it doesn't become a efficient magnet like soft iron .

Mark


Time as almost run out , i can't do it all by my self , i will try anyway ...

Edit , i added a picture where you see the magnet wheel on a pendulum reference to the 2 forces ...

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 04, 2010, 08:18:52 AM
@all
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 04, 2010, 11:24:20 PM
 

i believe Ed heated those segments past their Curie point before he assembled his wheel so that the iron was "fresh", with no permanent magnetism....scotty [loadstone?] shows that a PMH can be locked with a single long wire that goes through the center of the PMH, not even wraped around either leg!...you need to use a larger wire but it does work.....i can lock steel to ferrite with one wrap of wire... YouTube - david showing ferrite+steel PMH ...i have used a cap from a camera flash to lock a PMH also but i did not notice any difference in the strength of lock .....scotty said with a larger device, the strength of lock varied with input, voltage, amps etc. up to saturation....i think what i need to be looking for is material that can be super- saturated ....possibly an alloy or an oxide mixture...magnetite sand from china? ...the oxide core devices work very well, with plenty of visual radiations [vibrations?] and other super -magnetic [making all materials feel as being push/pulled magneticly] forces, radiating from these devices....replicators are seeing/feeling these SAME things...little by little we are figuring out EXACTLY how to reproduce this radiated wave, every time....for all replicators....this is something very different yet following some of the same sets of rules as electricity or magnetism...we all heard about the plastic film factory and the "wall" produced ...nothing there but an area made "solid" , by an invisible source?....this makes sense if these waves can add density or take the density out of a material ....in my first videos i am spinning a 14 pound quartz geode, with my fingers, it feels as though it has lost some of its mass and feels light. at this same time there is what looks visually like an interference pattern....i believe when these waves interfere or cancel,is when these effects are at their best....in affect, cancelling out some of an objects mass/inertia/gravity, it is all the same thing...the static wall shows us that something can cause invisible density or mass?...i propose that if a density can be manufactured, then so can its opposite, that can take the density/mass out...david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 05, 2010, 04:23:11 AM
@david

Sorry i have no idea of the video you are talking about , i will however say this about the PMH it is a tool to learn about magnetic current ...

In this video you can see , the experimenter trying to sustain rotation .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAnEMfJRx8&feature=related
Sethkettleman made the video.
I believe is mistake is its orientation vs the local vortex field (looking east for ED) .

Showing the existence of such a local vortex , is subject to critique but the evidence is there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZ9sFhmARk&feature=player_embedded

This is by Jeff Cook look at the last 2 or 3 minutes ...

Mark

Btw this thread is on the generator part .



 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 06, 2010, 08:13:49 AM
@all

Other ways of viewing a local field 3d compass , and electro-compass .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjEcmMT-GSs&feature=related

Mark

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ineedfiles on November 12, 2010, 02:32:24 PM
hello everyone!
i have totally been into Ed. since i first heard of him.

[img=http://a.imageshack.us/img27/603/edcolorizedp1.th.jpg] (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/edcolorizedp1.jpg/)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ineedfiles on November 12, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
ok, did one of you set me up? ???
who put this here? ???
(all the pics i upped are full size if you click the link from imageshack)

[img=http://a.imageshack.us/img813/9205/magneticcurrentthekey.th.jpg] (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/magneticcurrentthekey.jpg/)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ineedfiles on November 12, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
this guy was DEEP
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ineedfiles on November 12, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
last ones for today!


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[img=http://a.imageshack.us/img208/8491/insideout01.th.jpg] (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/insideout01.jpg/)
[img=http://a.imageshack.us/img823/2159/insideout02.th.jpg] (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/insideout02.jpg/)
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Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ineedfiles on November 12, 2010, 04:18:31 PM
i think i have located all of the pieces to Ed's device...
after many hours of scouring the internet.... i think.
i have worked on cars and computers for more than a few years.
i believe that in order to find out what Ed. was doing, i had to find out all i could about the pictures he took of himself.
i stared at the screen for hours at the picture with Ed.
 with his hand on the device, it is easy to miss the rest of the picture.
everyone just seemed to notice the wheel then i decided to colorize it.
i don't know what i did the the other, better, colorized pic i made, but this one will do.

 i also believe that i must have all the pieces, if i am to fix something that isn't working correctly.
well, i have more pics of the items that i believe belong to the device.
ill up them later.
 its 5am where i'm at right now.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on November 12, 2010, 04:29:07 PM
Quote
Ed used magnetism without converting it to electricity , the hard part now it to get good soft iron .Steel will not be useful here because it doesn't become a efficient magnet like soft iron
.
 I disagree on the electricity part if he ran a radio with it.
 Iron is steel. Just depends on the chemistry makeup as to whether you want a permanent magnet or an electromagnet. 1018 steel has been the most common from the early days and still is and makes a good electromagnet. You want a high iron content of 98% or better with a low carbon content of .04% or less to make a decent electromagnet. A 3 to 5% of silicone added makes it even better.
Just a thought. If there is any type of magnetic resonance with this system all the gates may need to be shut in order for it to work.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 13, 2010, 04:08:54 AM
.
 I disagree on the electricity part if he ran a radio with it.
 Iron is steel. Just depends on the chemistry makeup as to whether you want a permanent magnet or an electromagnet. 1018 steel has been the most common from the early days and still is and makes a good electromagnet. You want a high iron content of 98% or better with a low carbon content of .04% or less to make a decent electromagnet. A 3 to 5% of silicone added makes it even better.
Just a thought. If there is any type of magnetic resonance with this system all the gates may need to be shut in order for it to work.

Think about it a bit before making judgment , Radio wave means a certain range of freq .

Radio never needed electricity in the first place ... like fox hole radio ...

Moray had a fox hole radio feeding a tesla coil , the radio was feed by a rock ...

NS coil rings a bell

Anyway , thanks for the iron comment .

Mark

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 13, 2010, 09:20:36 AM
@all

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on November 13, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
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Radio never needed electricity in the first place ... like fox hole radio
I see what your saying Mk. The statement made that he ran the radio off his system is still in error. The station broadcasting the frequencies would run it. The radio itself is a receiver coil. The electromagnetic frequencies pulled in by the copper coil would induce current into the coil. Im still seeing that as electricity. 
Is this block a coil?

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 13, 2010, 02:43:39 PM
I see what your saying Mk. The statement made that he ran the radio off his system is still in error. The station broadcasting the frequencies would run it. The radio itself is a receiver coil. The electromagnetic frequencies pulled in by the copper coil would induce current into the coil. Im still seeing that as electricity. 
Is this block a coil?


How much energy you need to broadcast ... Is a NS coil a receiver ...

The transformer you see can supply electricity , but tell ma what a huge chunk of iron dose to a magnet wheel ? It stops it! Not efficient by design ? Even worst with the coil loaded . Ed was working alone what was turning the wheel .

The coil is there for something else , i hope you at least looked at my tread.

We know electricity , we know the primary and secondary are not directly connected , so how come electricity come out at the other end , because it became magnetic current inside of the core , we need magnetism to make radio wave .If i found a way to make magnetism why would i bother with electricity . We usually use electricity for it but that is not needed .

He was working alone , and he never told anyone he used radio , for anything but entertainment . ???

Mark



 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on November 13, 2010, 03:40:19 PM
Quote
How much energy you need to broadcast ... Is a NS coil a receiver
Not much at all. Yes the ns coil can be a receiver when tuned.

Quote
Ed was working alone what was turning the wheel .
I only see 2 possibility's. He turned the wheel to charge something up or it was self reciprocating once started.
 I live in Florida and went there once but thats been over 40 or so years ago when I was about 15 years old. I may have to make a trip there to get a better overview and feeling on it.
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 13, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
Not much at all. Yes the ns coil can be a receiver when tuned.
 I only see 2 possibility's. He turned the wheel to charge something up or it was self reciprocating once started.
 I live in Florida and went there once but thats been over 40 or so years ago when I was about 15 years old. I may have to make a trip there to get a better overview and feeling on it.

What ever ...

You did not even look at my tread ...

NS coil is a transmitter  >:(  , why do you think you get a visit from the authority if put a NS coil in the ground ?

There are 2 forces making the wheel turn gravity and magnetism .

Sorry you can't see that.

Mark
 


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on November 14, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
"The reason I call the results of North and South Pole magnet's
functions magnetic currents and not electric currents or electricity is the electricity is connected too much with those non-existing electrons. If it had been called magneticity then I would accept it. Magneticity would indicate that it has a magnetic base and so it would be all right." Ed. L

It's pretty clear yes?
Magnetic current IS electric current.
When the individual magnets enter the coil they are in bulk form....the coils job is to divide the magnets into small path's....that is your electricity.  ;D

Let me show it again.
If you have a copper wire in an E/W position with pos current entering from the East and neg from the West, then a  magnetic needle hung above the copper wire, with it's N pole at the lower end, will be deflected to the North.
If the S pole of the needle is above the copper wire it is deflected South.

Now Ed wrote "The hanging magnets that hang up and down, they show that there is motion inside the bar.  Hold the perpetual motion holder North Pole magnet or pole end East and South Pole magnet terminal or pole end West, now raise it up slowly to the South Pole hanging magnet, then you will see the South Pole hanging magnet swinging South. Now put the perpetual motion holder under the North Pole hanging magnet, raise up slowly, then you will see the North Pole hanging magnet swinging North.  This experiment shows without any doubt that the North and South Pole individual magnets are running in the same direction as those in the copper wire, which came out of the car battery, and in both instances while the magnets are running ahead in whirling motion they used the right-hand twist."

So, again everything is clear yes?
BTW, I think only a good "wrought iron" will show the results.
Wrought iron has a laminated structure so it throws out the magnets much more.

Scotty.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 14, 2010, 01:50:22 AM
"The reason I call the results of North and South Pole magnet's
functions magnetic currents and not electric currents or electricity is the electricity is connected too much with those non-existing electrons. If it had been called magneticity then I would accept it. Magneticity would indicate that it has a magnetic base and so it would be all right." Ed. L

It's pretty clear yes?
Magnetic current IS electric current.
When the individual magnets enter the coil they are in bulk form....the coils job is to divide the magnets into small path's....that is your electricity.  ;D

Let me show it again.
If you have a copper wire in an E/W position with pos current entering from the East and neg from the West, then a  magnetic needle hung above the copper wire, with it's N pole at the lower end, will be deflected to the North.
If the S pole of the needle is above the copper wire it is deflected South.

Now Ed wrote "The hanging magnets that hang up and down, they show that there is motion inside the bar.  Hold the perpetual motion holder North Pole magnet or pole end East and South Pole magnet terminal or pole end West, now raise it up slowly to the South Pole hanging magnet, then you will see the South Pole hanging magnet swinging South. Now put the perpetual motion holder under the North Pole hanging magnet, raise up slowly, then you will see the North Pole hanging magnet swinging North.  This experiment shows without any doubt that the North and South Pole individual magnets are running in the same direction as those in the copper wire, which came out of the car battery, and in both instances while the magnets are running ahead in whirling motion they used the right-hand twist."

So, again everything is clear yes?
BTW, I think only a good "wrought iron" will show the results.
Wrought iron has a laminated structure so it throws out the magnets much more.

Scotty.

Its clear to me that i am wasting me time with most of you guys , since you all know everything , yet no one ever showed how Ed did it .

Having there mind set , is the same as knowing everything .

It should be quite easy for people that understand everything ...

Why should even bother to show you guys , you are not even thinking about what i am saying .

I would accept debate , but that shit is sad .

Totally ignoring , no comment , no open lines of discussion .

You all had the clues for so long , but dismiss it , because you don't feel comfortable reevaluating there mind set , those are the fruits that rot  .

This is the kind of things that make one stop sharing .

Good luck , with your experiment ...

Mark



 

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on November 14, 2010, 02:18:51 AM
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NS coil is a transmitter
Yes it is and its also a receiver. It puts out magnetic pulses at low frequencies which is disruptive.

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There are 2 forces making the wheel turn gravity and magnetism .

Sorry you can't see that.

 I see it but in a different manner. I think there are 3 forces. The gravitational spin of the earth forcing telluric currents through the earths magnetic field. This is what I meant by Ed charging up for a continuous flow like a PMH. The Pmh is just a magnet until current is applied to the coils. Once the keeper is put on the current keeps flowing because there is no output and it stays in the loop until the keeper is removed. Eds wheel to me looks like a magnetic vortex,thus the pendulum,that is carrying the earths telluric currents through the iron chains just like the current induced into a Pmh by an external force instead of gravity. In other words gravity is the voltage or force.
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on November 14, 2010, 02:19:29 AM
Mark, I only quoted Ed's words so they can be easily understood.
Why that would be offensive to you is a mystery.
You ask why nobody can show how Ed did it...did what? lift stones, overcome Lenz?

I don't care what Ed did. I care about the theory of magnets he wrote and published.
By learning it I might see what Ed did and that would be great.
To learn something it is useless to start by changing everything related to the subject.

If I can bring someone's "Ed theory" into contradiction by using Ed's own words then I have little faith in that theory for obvious reasons.

I have an ability to discern words but not such an ability with invention and utilisation of understanding...such is life.
If more people actually took Ed for what he wrote then somebody who has inventive ability might see what I have not yet found.

Scotty.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on November 14, 2010, 02:29:12 AM
Here is a music scale.
A B C D E F G.

How many people can make an opera from it?
We can all see it but to utilise it takes another form of understanding, even though what is seen is plain to the eye.

Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 15, 2010, 11:16:39 PM
hi...just to let you know, matt emery has my device finally...as far as Eds wheel and what it makes...magnetic current is different than electric current...it follows some of the same rules but it is different...the devices i have made clearly show this...Eds wheel is nothing more than a large circular PMH....NOT an electrical generator....magnetic current is a flowing field......it is absolutely visible and can be seen flowing from a PMH.....to understand it you must first SEE what i am talking about...this is a post from another forum                screaminvern
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Don't despair Ron, when you see it,you'll know it  You'll say, "Ohhhh... that's what their talking about!"

I was walking by my wheel day before yesterday, picked up the geode and there it was.

It was a long time before I was able to detect the waves.

"caveman at a Tesla convention"
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 12:29:04 AM
@all

What makes a wise man wise , he never think he is smarter or wiser. He is one willing to learn every day . Those Man are not easy to find ...

There will always be someone smarter then you , and you can learn from the dumbest .

I know using your own brain is not easy when you are thought the reading could solve that and knowledge is intelligence , well its not .

I made a mistake , i should have make believe that i invented this machine , since no one get's it , even if i am willing to do it step by step .But people are not using there brain ... What are going to do , we are doomed ...

One more time for the dummy's ...

Look at it , for GOD sake .

Mark






 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 12:34:22 AM
Yes it is and its also a receiver. It puts out magnetic pulses at low frequencies which is disruptive.

 I see it but in a different manner. I think there are 3 forces. The gravitational spin of the earth forcing telluric currents through the earths magnetic field. This is what I meant by Ed charging up for a continuous flow like a PMH. The Pmh is just a magnet until current is applied to the coils. Once the keeper is put on the current keeps flowing because there is no output and it stays in the loop until the keeper is removed. Eds wheel to me looks like a magnetic vortex,thus the pendulum,that is carrying the earths telluric currents through the iron chains just like the current induced into a Pmh by an external force instead of gravity. In other words gravity is the voltage or force.


At least try to look like you know anything , read his book , please .

The PMH is not a magnet ... Its a electromagnet the U shape core is iron and not a magnet.

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 12:49:16 AM
@all

Ok what is magnetic current ...

For those familiar with Transformer action , it will be easy ...

Electricity goes in a one end of a copper coil ,  and gets out at the other end ...

Now the same coil is on a Transformer core , Electricity goes in a one end of a copper coil ,  and gets out at the other end ...

A second coil is put on the core , Electricity goes in a one end of the first copper coil ,  and gets out at the other end ... Electricity come out of the second coil ...

Coil one and coil two are not connected together , what happen ? Magic !

The electricity to magnetism in the core , and that magnetism made electricity appear in the second coil .

You need a special meter for magnetic current it is called a teslameter ...

Now it is a well known and studied aspect of our current technologies ...

It was measured to shown that it fallow electricity with a with a delay of 1/4 wave link , meaning that it will be the delayed by one forth of the wave length , i am not making this up .

Now , people please read the tread , comment if you have questions.

Mark       
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 12:58:19 AM
@scotty

I know how to read , and have copies of Ed's writing's .

I don't see why you need to post them , unless you need me to explain them to you , in that case please read the tread carefully what i am saying not what you think is wright , and if you have questions or comment on the content ,feel free to ask ...

And you are right not everyone is capable of making magic from CDEFGAB , but i am a musician ... You see my scale is Major and yours is minor ...

Mark







Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Moab on November 16, 2010, 02:47:44 AM
The Most truthful  and insightful quote ive seen on Overunity dotcom in 3 or 4 years. Atta boy Scotty. don't get involved in the noise. pursue your studies in spite of it. i like the way most of you guys are thinking . thanks for the read.     Moby  :)

Here is a music scale.
A B C D E F G.

How many people can make an opera from it?
We can all see it but to utilise it takes another form of understanding, even though what is seen is plain to the eye.

Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on November 16, 2010, 05:07:00 AM
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magnetic current is different than electric current
Yes it is. To me in its pure form its 2 constant fast moving gravitational fields traveling towards each other directly head on. The weakest fields being center of the poles and dividing line. Man made permanent and electromagnets are made by an electric current. This may be the reason why some think that electricity or electric charge is gravity and vice versus. With the coils on the Pmh being at 90 degrees to the iron,you are pushing the field around in a loop which passes the copper coils on the way,so Im seeing an electric charge being induced into the iron,and when the keeper is removed the charge or spark escapes at the weakest field point on the iron. Even if thats not the case the Pmh still has to be considered an electromagnet and that involves electricity. If Ed used just a magnetic current or field I would think he would have to change the blocks to a like pole,North most likely for push,or south for levitation, or he used the east west electric field of the earth in conjunction with the earths currents and east west gravitational field. If you put the keeper on the pmh and face the poles north or south,with the coils east and west I think you'll see the Earths electric and magnetic fields which are closed loops. Either way you could put an enormous magnetic or electric charge on the iron  chains.
 I see similarity's between the Pmh and sweets vta. Both have coils with magnets,though sweets was a permanent tuned barium magnet. Sweet could levitate his device with higher current,but normal operation only took a small battery to start and the battery would be taken out after it started. A 25 watt bulb was a minimum load to start it. The bulb more or less would be the keeper to close the current loop. Sweet by all accounts created a vortex in the Aether with the magnet. Eds wheel looks like a vortex when spun.     
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 05:17:33 AM
Yes it is. To me in its pure form its 2 constant fast moving gravitational fields traveling towards each other directly head on. The weakest fields being center of the poles and dividing line. Man made permanent and electromagnets are made by an electric current. This may be the reason why some think that electricity or electric charge is gravity and vice versus. With the coils on the Pmh being at 90 degrees to the iron,you are pushing the field around in a loop which passes the copper coils on the way,so Im seeing an electric charge being induced into the iron,and when the keeper is removed the charge or spark escapes at the weakest field point on the iron. Even if thats not the case the Pmh still has to be considered an electromagnet and that involves electricity. If Ed used just a magnetic current or field I would think he would have to change the blocks to a like pole,North most likely for push,or south for levitation, or he used the east west electric field of the earth in conjunction with the earths currents and east west gravitational field. If you put the keeper on the pmh and face the poles north or south,with the coils east and west I think you'll see the Earths electric and magnetic fields which are closed loops. Either way you could put an enormous magnetic or electric charge on the iron  chains.
 I see similarity's between the Pmh and sweets vta. Both have coils with magnets,though sweets was a permanent tuned barium magnet. Sweet could levitate his device with higher current,but normal operation only took a small battery to start and the battery would be taken out after it started. A 25 watt bulb was a minimum load to start it. The bulb more or less would be the keeper to close the current loop. Sweet by all accounts created a vortex in the Aether with the magnet. Eds wheel looks like a vortex when spun.   

Tell me where on the core can i connect the volt meter , to gauge the amount of electricity , you can't because they are not traveling in the same direction ...

At least if someone is willing to look at what i am saying without imputing all they know , they will see the tree hiding in the forest .

And yes spinning magnets creates a vortex , great news ... its part of it but not what makes the wheel turn .

As far as when i say gravity force , i mean a pendulum works on gravity , call it what ever you like .

Now tell me did you read the tread ?

Mark



 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on November 16, 2010, 09:42:47 AM
Hey MK1, I'm a muso too....in fact I'm a guitar maker.  ;D Maybe if you work real hard and save your money you can buy one...I put Ed's logo on them as well.... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related)

During the day I work as a Mechanical Engineering Patternmaker.
I make guitars because it gives me freedom of expression.
A minor, that is my favorite, so yes I am a minor.  8)
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Here is a test i made a clip of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0)

There is a great battle going on inside the soft iron, but it succeedes in pushing most of the excess magnets out, only to have some other coil put them back in, and when the magnets go in the soft iron they don't want to leave, because the air has much more resistance than iron.

If MK1 spun a magnet in the middle of his transformer he might light a light, but if he cut a section out of the core and spun the magnet he might light 2 lights. The reason is that in the full core some of the little magnets run in an orbit and don't want to go into the secondary coil, but when there is a gap in the core then alot of the magnets cannot make a full orbit, because they don't like the air gap very much, so they get pushed out by the iron into the secondary and the result is more light. They try to dam up in the iron but it pushes them out.



Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: penno64 on November 16, 2010, 10:10:27 AM
Hi Mk,

I posted this is your other FORCE 1 thread. Thought I'd put it here too.

@MK

You have got to try transformer laminates.

From a couple of burned out plug packs, I simply hacksawed off the copper windings.

You will be surprised.

Regards, Penno (Garry)

Give it a go, eh!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 16, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
Hey MK1, I'm a muso too....in fact I'm a guitar maker.  ;D Maybe if you work real hard and save your money you can buy one...I put Ed's logo on them as well.... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related)

During the day I work as a Mechanical Engineering Patternmaker.
I make guitars because it gives me freedom of expression.
A minor, that is my favorite, so yes I am a minor.  8)
----------------------------------
Here is a test i made a clip of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0)

There is a great battle going on inside the soft iron, but it succeedes in pushing most of the excess magnets out, only to have some other coil put them back in, and when the magnets go in the soft iron they don't want to leave, because the air has much more resistance than iron.

If MK1 spun a magnet in the middle of his transformer he might light a light, but if he cut a section out of the core and spun the magnet he might light 2 lights. The reason is that in the full core some of the little magnets run in an orbit and don't want to go into the secondary coil, but when there is a gap in the core then alot of the magnets cannot make a full orbit, because they don't like the air gap very much, so they get pushed out by the iron into the secondary and the result is more light. They try to dam up in the iron but it pushes them out.


Actually i will spend 80 bucks on wood and build my own , , i have been playing for 25 years , and building for the last 10 years ... I seen your PRS type axe not my tea bag ...

I also know you got a wheel , that doesn't tell me that you know how it works ...

I just have wish that people would at lest look at what i am saying.

The last drawing i made was for the first ring , but you know you need to ring twice ...

The second force is gravity , like gravity is the force on a pendulum .

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 16, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
iota....i must agree with you....at least in part....i like the way your mind works!......scotty, i know that you do not agree with matt but i was wondering if after harvey and glen, if you might want to check out my device.....i promise it will open your eyes!....david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 16, 2010, 09:24:03 PM
mark, i love your thread, i may not see all of what you say, but please, keep up the good work...i hope more people will really read your thread...david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: shylo on November 18, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
hi...sorry to interrupt.....but, can I get a link to MK1's ttread......the theroys' here are fascinating......shylo
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gravityblock on November 18, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
There are 2 forces making the wheel turn gravity and magnetism .

Sorry you can't see that.

Mark
 

It appears to me in the photo it is Ed's hand on the handle that is making the generator turn, instead of gravity and magnetism.

Sorry you can't see that.

GB
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gravityblock on November 18, 2010, 04:25:58 AM
Its clear to me that i am wasting me time with most of you guys , since you all know everything , yet no one ever showed how Ed did it .

Mark

I've already shown the basic principals on how Ed did it in another thread.

Here's how one person can move and erect 20,000 lbs without any pulleys, chains, cranes, or heavy machinery.  There really is nothing remarkable about this, once you know how.  It's really simple. 

Man moves massive blocks in his backyard using simple contraptions, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4

GB
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 18, 2010, 04:38:00 AM
@gravityblock

I have known about that video for quite sometimes , i know it can be done with some rocks , and some weight , but ED did something else to its stone ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxcGa_KXQw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

You see he left us one stone that is not quite set ...

Also Ed was beaten up by government people and they confiscated a large U shape piece and some magnets ...

He did not have the parts or the will to give it easy to anyone , unless they where worth it .

If you step on a 5 foot man you will not get harm physically , but the Man will go to great link for revenge , making plans to teach what he could do .

The whole castle is a clues , each part not only sculptures by details of the machine , you you can dismiss everything but some will see and succeed .

Mark   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gravityblock on November 18, 2010, 04:39:21 AM
Mark, I only quoted Ed's words so they can be easily understood.
Why that would be offensive to you is a mystery.
You ask why nobody can show how Ed did it...did what? lift stones, overcome Lenz?

I don't care what Ed did. I care about the theory of magnets he wrote and published.
By learning it I might see what Ed did and that would be great.
To learn something it is useless to start by changing everything related to the subject.

If I can bring someone's "Ed theory" into contradiction by using Ed's own words then I have little faith in that theory for obvious reasons.

Scotty.

Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.  Thats why it took him 20-30 years by himself.  If he would have had any type of hydraulic or anti-gravity system it would have been completed much quicker.

GB
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on November 18, 2010, 05:03:20 AM
Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.  Thats why it took him 20-30 years by himself.  If he would have had any type of hydraulic or anti-gravity system it would have been completed much quicker.

GB

Well moved it in only weeks so ... yes he moved his castle .

Ed said he used weights and leverage , yes i know and said that just for you ...  :D

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: gravityblock on November 18, 2010, 05:39:17 AM
Ed said he used weights and leverage , yes i know and said that just for you ...  :D

Mark

Yes, and I know Ed wrote riddles in his text just for you... :D

GB
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on November 20, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
iota....i must agree with you....at least in part....i like the way your mind works!......scotty, i know that you do not agree with matt but i was wondering if after harvey and glen, if you might want to check out my device.....i promise it will open your eyes!....david

Hey David. If I were you, I would try to develope it into something practical.
Many people may see "something" but to make something of it is something else....not trying to dis you or anything.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 27, 2010, 10:41:22 PM
scotty, i get the feeling that you do not believe that Eds device generated this same wave-form that my devices make....you have a good replication of Eds device, which IS a circular PMH...have you ever charged it like a PMH?...my next device is going to be a copy of Eds wheel but using iron oxide in place of his V shaped segments....the oxide allows more of the magnets to be thrown off....do you believe that magnetic current is visible?...i also get the impression that you do not think that what my devices do, has any thing to do with Eds work....and that the visible distortion is all that my devices do . ..you know a PMH works, in your video with the neon bulb, does the power supply need to be hooked up, to get that effect?....in my expirements, all the effects my devices produce, do so with out any power hooked to it...david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on November 27, 2010, 11:18:08 PM
so anyway, i get the impression that you do not think that what i have found is related to Eds work, and that the visual distortion is all my devices do, if that....and that it is not useful and i should find something with more usefullness ?...when Volta saw that first tiny spark, so tiny almost not visible, of what use was it?....a PMH only radiates this visible wave when it is energized...dont you think that is significant?....that it does this perpetually with only an initial charge...and that it will do the same thing using oxide instead of iron....do you know that Eds generator IS a circular 24 segment PMH?....anyway that is the impression i get, if i am wrong, sorry...david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: ElectricGoose on November 27, 2010, 11:25:20 PM
and that the visible distortion is all that my devices do . ..you know a PMH works, in your video with the neon bulb, does the power supply need to be hooked up, to get that effect?....in my expirements, all the effects my devices produce, do so with out any power hooked to it...david

Lambright, you seem like a nice guy but you have been bumbling on this topic here and at Energetic Forum for a good part of a year with thousands of posts.  I'm not sure you have much to 'boast' about as regards what 'your' device can or cannot do.  Right now it cannot do a damn useful thing and you continue to play and post useless videos which don't really show the viewer anything.
Having said this, I KNOW that the Leedskalnin wheel/pmh produces these effects, therefore dont think I am refuting what you have to say.  Where you are failing big time is in your scientific methodology.  You run around like a little kid, freezing water, doing this and doing that, posting videos and trying to convince people....THIS IS NOT SCIENTIFIC METHOD!  For a start....forget trying to convince the audience of anything....are you a believer?  If the answer is yes, then start building your 'evidence locker' and decide where you want to take this technology.  If you want to attain funding or come out with a useful product you will not achieve this by roping in half interested forum people meanwhile acting like a child yourself who has Attention Deficit Disorder because he can't stay focussed on one track.

Until then all you have is a mystical novelty that isn't doing you or humanity any good.

E-Goose
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on December 14, 2010, 06:40:15 PM
Gents, just visited Coral Castle and I plan to join you guys in the search for answers on Leedskalnin's technique.  Me and my friend shot some hi-def video and some interesting stills, but some of the key elements of Coral Castle seem to lacking in the conversation.  One is the "turnstyle" located near the front entrance.  This large piece of Coral is mounted on some sort of ball bearing as far as they can tell but there are magnetic readings which come from the rock itself, meaning that there are magnets buried within the Coral to achieve this effect.  I noticed this all over the place, a limestone filler being smoothed over some of the places in the coral.  Ed made the claim that he did this to some of the material so that you may place camera's, but I think he drilled into the Coral blocks and magnetised the entire thing with his pmh.  I will post some pictures to back this up, and you can all tell me what you think, so that we can stimulate a bit more discussion.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on December 17, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Notice this cavity he carved out
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on December 17, 2010, 11:06:58 PM
And this one
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on December 17, 2010, 11:10:41 PM
@nuevo_vidente


Welcome to my tread , nice pictures feel free to elaborate .

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on December 17, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
While I see the primary concern of this thread is to solve his generators mystery, I think that misses some of the more fundamental discoveries he made, such as how to magnetize the coral itself, which might transfer to most matter if done right.  While the original rock gate was the most impressive example of this, the method he used to mount it must have been imperfect, or the ley line/magnetic field must have migrated from the original location, which would have explained it's collapse.  But the turnstyle, and the sun chair still seem to be mounted and rotatable.  You can still get readings from whatever he embedded in the coral to achieve this effect.  If you think of the radio waves generated by his device as some sort of transmitter of magnetic field, then with the proper magnetic material embedded inside the coral, he could potentially "levitate" it, couldn't he?  I might be way off on this, but there were many instances of limestone filler being used on the coral rocks to cover up whatever he had done to drill inside.  If anyone is still paying attention to this, I would be eager to hear your responses.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on December 17, 2010, 11:32:08 PM
@nuevo_vidente

Yes some thing like that , but in simple terms if the analogy fits , my explanation is .

Like noise reduction systems that record the noise and and send it back phase reverse to cancel the sound . You need to do the same with gravity waves ...

But how ever think the wheel is obviously the rotor , but the stator is u shaped .

The schematics is hidden in most high ranking masonic lodge . People are starting to make motors the only problem is the size of the u core compared to the wheel.

Mark


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: slapper on December 18, 2010, 06:36:22 AM
Mk1 ? uhm. What is that inside the interwoven triangle ???
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on December 18, 2010, 06:59:39 AM
Mk1 ? uhm. What is that inside the interwoven triangle ???

 :D Sorry , the triangle represents the wheel ... the u-shaped is the stator .

We know the the PMH hold the charge or spin ...

Inside the triangle is the nasa space shuttle .  :D just kidding

Its a primitive tool , most likely , well i don't know the word check the second picture .  But it is also a pendulum ...

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: TEKTRON on December 22, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
@all

Gravity theory shows at as 2 waves hitting the same point at the same time .

Look at the picture the heavy chain on top is moving to the beat of the wheel

It is following the arm , there is also a iron bar perpendicular to the wheel.

Both of those are iron , under stress from the wheel , both are linked to chains (chains conduct magnetism like a copper wire electricity ).

And finally both are 90 degrees apart physically and in operation .

I bet that on the rock you need one chain on top and one on the side .

There is also some indication of the use of electricity more on that soon...

Hint the bottles ( glass contains electricity ) caps , magnetic quench , spark gap...

Mark

A variable capacitor? Just add water.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on January 23, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Physics Model
Hey Van, what i meant was square the numbers by squaring one hundred times any other number ends in a nine before it goes back to one. Try this with both numbers, .7129 and .6105195. That point is the infinite point. Super conductivity and super fluidity show us that the infinite exists. Any number that you do this with with either come up ones and zeros, or nines. Pi shows us the infinite by squaring the numbers .7129 all the way back near zero you will get 98. That is the point of incidence. Square the next one, .61059195 and you will get the same thing, .99998. then it goes to one??Every other number squared to the end becomes.99999 one. EVERY ONE BUT THOSE 2....try it...pull up your windows calculator and see for your self ....see how they are a line of either 99999s or 0000000s Notice how the ones and zeros co-relate to the shape of inside a sphere. The inside of the sphere is equal to one. draw a circle....imagine 99999s with their tails sticking through with a 0 on the outside ...with a value of 1....a FULL sphere ..EVERY WHERE BUT 2 POINTS....do the calculations again .... But yet, every quarter is equal to one. now multiply .1 times .314 We know about super fluidity, super conductivity etc. This proves infinity. expansion at a ratio of one to four Leedskalin's numbers show us the angle of the infinite ray. Think about it like this, you are standing on a bubble and the floor is zero degrees and infinite. At eye level is the next boundary level. An infinite point is an infinite line, inside of a sphere is equal to a point mathematically. Pi times radius squared. Now you realize that it is a reflection of the infinite. No matter what number you put in a computer calculator etc. and square it a hundred times only two numbers end in 98 before they go to one, this proves the infinite ray mathematically. Infinite ray is unidirectional, infinite line is bidirectional. Infinite line can become infinite disc, infinite bi-directionality gives us spin which gives us attraction and repulsion which is magnetism and gravity. Why is pi only infinite at one point? Because it is a perfect mathematically correct reflection of the infinite. Phase shift problems with parabolic mirrors, the reflected ray from a parabolic mirror does not phase shift again. The main ray upon reflection shifts. This proves reflection. The Electron Phase Shift some of this theory applies also.....i need to post this but my next posts will be Leedskalnins method .....and the experimental proof that is irrefutable......pull up your windows calculator in the mean time and see......david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on January 24, 2011, 07:37:18 AM
         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu6L2M2gpu4&feature=related   this video shows the 4 components of a di-pole magnetic field..... the one main and 3 reflections.....the reflection of the beam puts it out of phase with the main beam this is what permanent magnetism is.....the reflected beam does not shift....the mechanics of it are this;...infinite ray is reflected.no phase shift....reflected ray is split and shifts....this produces the attractive and repulsive force....a laser uses these principles ...this infinite beam or ray, i will show, makes all of the forces... Eienstien equation, E-mc2,  shows this form exactly.....this also explains why i felt a pulling/pushing when i used mirrors in my experiments... .   http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEEQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fambermd.org%2FQuestions%2Fgibbs.html&ei=O_o8TdvhBI3GsAPUw9HQAw&usg=AFQjCNH7vvOVQbmkwawVNTcp9X4e5WX0Uw&sig2=LF6NA0Dai0dp-IFifBXUMQ   in this article, they talk about Gibbs energy and its forward only directionality, AND only when 0>1...but this is a reflected beam so maybe its 9>1 ...like the square root math shows...this is exactly describing the forward only infinite ray i am talking about.......light follows this same pattern...in my experiments, using a laser, i was able to pump the energy to a higher level, increasing the visible flow of energy....the principles are correct.....the math says this is correct... experiments by me and others are saying this is correct....i have seen this energy flowing.....checkout the ferro fluid video again...at 30 sec see how the shape wavers?....this is the same type of distortion seen around devices....if this is nothing, it will fade away ....but it is what i claim and it will continue to grow.....i will post vids when i get some good footage.....david
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Post by: david lambright on January 26, 2011, 04:28:21 PM
http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att     http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=1&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att   these are a couple of overlays to visualize this model
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on January 27, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
What happened to smokey2?
 After reading his post in the first page I would have to agree with his asessment. The earliest use of electric was most likely of the static nature.The perimids alignment only served to use the earths feilds to polarize the discharge of stored energy. The vastness of the desert around them inspite of the nile river was due to static induced service tension in the soil preventing water from penatrating into the soil once the devices were not longer used. There are lot of really old very cool patenets prior to tesla with regard to static electric harvesting and conversion. Ed like all the others was not giving it up completely to the public with out capitallizing off it first. There in is the main problem it will remain for as long as there is money.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on January 28, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
Lambright, you seem like a nice guy but you have been bumbling on this topic here and at Energetic Forum for a good part of a year with thousands of posts.  I'm not sure you have much to 'boast' about as regards what 'your' device can or cannot do.  Right now it cannot do a damn useful thing and you continue to play and post useless videos which don't really show the viewer anything.
Having said this, I KNOW that the Leedskalnin wheel/pmh produces these effects, therefore dont think I am refuting what you have to say.  Where you are failing big time is in your scientific methodology.  You run around like a little kid, freezing water, doing this and doing that, posting videos and trying to convince people....THIS IS NOT SCIENTIFIC METHOD!  For a start....forget trying to convince the audience of anything....are you a believer?  If the answer is yes, then start building your 'evidence locker' and decide where you want to take this technology.  If you want to attain funding or come out with a useful product you will not achieve this by roping in half interested forum people meanwhile acting like a child yourself who has Attention Deficit Disorder because he can't stay focussed on one track.

Until then all you have is a mystical novelty that isn't doing you or humanity any good.

E-Goose
how about fixing the physics model?....or showing the step by step mechanics of repeatable levitation....we know the effect is real, [Hutchinson]...but how to repeat it?...in my posts i will show all this and more......is it good enough yet goose?.....i will answer for you YES IT IS !!!!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: BobTEW on January 28, 2011, 03:44:01 PM
Great thread!  I will put my two bits in. "They" forgot too include repel in their equations.  Bring four iron rods to the table, two of them magnets. Take note of the two iron rods have no attraction or repel force of note. Flat line of power. Bring in one magnet and one rod, attraction- a new force 90 degree differents. Now for two magnets have both attraction and repelling forces 90 degrees out. Here is a picture of a electromagnetic field scan.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: BobTEW on January 28, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
Great thread!  I will put my two bits in. "They" forgot too include repel in their equations.  Bring four iron rods to the table, two of them magnets. Take note of the two iron rods have no attraction or repel force of note. Flat line of power. Bring in one magnet and one rod, attraction- a new force 90 degree differents. Now for two magnets have both attraction and repelling forces 90 degrees out. Here is a picture of a electromagnetic field scan.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: BobTEW on January 28, 2011, 03:59:41 PM
David the white eyes are the photon pump area.  The blue is the figure eight electron flow.  The two red center rings is one complete ring. Compare this to the pictures of the "d" orbitals.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on January 29, 2011, 04:43:42 AM
Hi mine is sideways ...

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on January 29, 2011, 05:04:26 AM
Hi Everyone , figure this one out !
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on January 31, 2011, 02:47:10 AM
@all

In the previous post i showed that a third spin dose exist , and is no longer a secret.

The next video show how the Rodin coil reacts to different orientation .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgteaL33F0&feature=fvw


Ed was well aware of the local magnetic field orientation , he made reference to it many time in magnetic current ... Go read it again .

In this section are 3 different part where he mention it ! ???
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on January 31, 2011, 02:50:21 AM
@all

What is magnetic current .

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on February 01, 2011, 04:52:57 AM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid03.htm

http://www.sacredscience.com/archive/PetrusDiagrams.htm

Enjoy those links !
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Mk1 on February 02, 2011, 12:16:43 AM
@all

Here is something to think about !
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on February 15, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
Here's another interesting link, which seems to be exactly what Ed was talking about 70 years ago.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/02/magnetricity-spin-ice/
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nuevo_vidente on May 02, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/optical-battery-discovery-solar_n_855499.html

This team at the University of Michigan seems to have developed a theory on how to harness the magnetic energy from sunlight, very close to what Ed was talking about.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: onthecuttingedge2010 on May 02, 2011, 10:38:42 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/optical-battery-discovery-solar_n_855499.html

This team at the University of Michigan seems to have developed a theory on how to harness the magnetic energy from sunlight, very close to what Ed was talking about.

like I have said before, you need to control light in order to become God like. God like is what is needed in perfecting a race of beings that are at thee top of the food chain.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 05, 2011, 08:19:57 AM
Hi, I'm new to the forum. Been reading your information for a while though. Very interesting all. If I may, I've a question for anyone who's been to the Castle and investigated the wheel. First, assuming everything that was in the photo is still in his workshop, and also assuming most everything he used came from a model T(I know, I'm assuming a lot), has anyone identified what part of the car sits on the block of wood in front of the machine? Is it still in the shop?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: twinbeard on May 05, 2011, 09:03:48 AM
Hi, I'm new to the forum. Been reading your information for a while though. Very interesting all. If I may, I've a question for anyone who's been to the Castle and investigated the wheel. First, assuming everything that was in the photo is still in his workshop, and also assuming most everything he used came from a model T(I know, I'm assuming a lot), has anyone identified what part of the car sits on the block of wood in front of the machine? Is it still in the shop?

Hi,

Take a look at these vids I made during a recent trip there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeLNf9t2Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsUSqrm4C4

He placed coils wrapped on glass bottles on the blocks... there are tie down terminals on the ends of the blocks.  It is quite possible that there was something in the bottles as well... water, another liquid, powdered metal, or similar, although the "core material" is just speculation on my part.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 09, 2011, 06:44:57 AM
Thanks for the links Twinbeard.

Still, I saw nothing that resembled the thing on the block of wood in the picture of Ed posed using his machine though. I've built this machine 5 times, each time using different windings. One gave me slight but repeatable results of magnetizing chain hanging above it. So, for now, frustration has moved me on to how he may have kept it in motion. But, that thing on the block of wood perplexes me still.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on May 09, 2011, 11:12:39 PM
Though the pic doesnt have high resolution the block of wood may be a stack of iron. Just like a transformer coil to diminish eddy currents. The wooden looking bar seems to hold weight down on the block to keep the chain down as it seems a little bowed. The chain itself is at a 90 degree angle to the block. The rotor itself looks like it may put out a magnetic sine wave. If that is the case,then maybe the chain being at a 90 degree angle is being energized or charged. If the chain is truly charged thats a lot of charge for something that size. If the chain werent a closed loop the charge may have remained until the loop was closed creating a circuit in a device. Something that may relate to this is the U shaped Pmh with the keeper and 2 coils on it. One coil was energized with a dc voltage and the other coils leads were tied together If I remember right. This apparently puts out Ac. 
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Post by: Dave45 on May 09, 2011, 11:56:20 PM
The bottles were filled with sweet sixteen
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 10, 2011, 07:39:49 AM
Here is a different shot of it I had.

Bill
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 11, 2011, 09:23:04 AM
All good info, thanks.

IotaYodi, I've not completed my own experiments with this idea as I'm in the process of another rebuild, but the field emanating from the top of the magnets at 90 deg to the ends of the magnets could be redirected towards a hidden pickup coil. One perhaps the length of the block of wood? One, say, the length of the long loosely wound coil on the wall?

My theory is that the long coil wound round the white paper(?) went into a hole cut through the entire block of wood. This might account for the wires attached at the points of swivel, no? And the metal(?) atop the ornamental iron arms(?) redirected the field emanating at 90 deg from the ends of the magnets to this coil.

Still, that box perplexes me. Was it's sole purpose to hold the chain?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: twinbeard on May 11, 2011, 07:19:40 PM
All good info, thanks.

Still, that box perplexes me. Was it's sole purpose to hold the chain?

In looking at the colorized image a few posts back, it appears that it is a small trafo or maybe just a core to pick up the flux... the chain is attached to it, and it is held down by a horizontal stick with wire wrapped to the tie down posts.  I remember seeing a similar shaped core on his wall of components...

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on May 11, 2011, 09:06:24 PM
please check out my latest video, is shows the nature of the energy Ed was using...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC2NKeGO0W8   my devices are based loosely on Eds design....david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on May 11, 2011, 09:23:17 PM
hi rc,   do you energize your "generator" like a PMH?     also you might try the vermiculite to see if it creates this same effect.....can you tell me more about your build that magnetized the chain....i am very curious....david
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 12, 2011, 07:05:48 AM
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In looking at the colorized image a few posts back, it appears that it is a small trafo or maybe just a core to pick up the flux... the chain is attached to it, and it is held down by a horizontal stick with wire wrapped to the tie down posts.  I remember seeing a similar shaped core on his wall of components...

Twinbeard, forgive my ignorance, I'm no electrician, but by "trafo" do you mean a transformer? What would the circuit look like? I can't see any visible signs of a connection. If that's a stack of steel I can see it contacting the bolt head, but that itself, looks insulated from the machine. Unless the chain itself was part of the overall circuit, but that seems an awfully dangerous place to be if all that chain is charged up. I know I am missing your point. Please clarify?

Also, which "core" are you referring to?

I know the color image gives the impression the chain is on top, but in one of my negative images, the chain seems to be held by a long rod that goes horizontally through one of the links and doesn't seem to be on top at all.

 
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hi rc,   do you energize your "generator" like a PMH?     also you might try the vermiculite to see if it creates this same effect.....can you tell me more about your build that magnetized the chain....i am very curious....david

I've watched many of your videos, David and look forward to your latest. Your enthusiasm is quite refreshing and has re-energized me several times when I'd thought of giving up and many of your ideas have come in handy in my own experiments. Keep up the good work!

I've tried several means of energizing the wheel. The only one that gave me any results(and again I stress, the results were weak, but repeatable) was wrapping two legs of one pole together with 3 wraps of 144 winds each of some very small gauge wire. The numbers are chosen arbitrarily based loosely on some of the info at code144. This wrap magnetized a chain hanging over it just above the spinning handle. It did not magnetize the chain hanging in front unattached to anything nor any of the links even when the chain was in circuit with the one hanging overhead based on what I'd built. This was a direct connection to the bolt head with the speculation the iron bolt was collecting and redirecting the magnets into the chain. I've since abandoned that theory.

My next build is to test a new winding based on the last few entries in his Magnetic Current book. Most of the difficulty I have is in scale. I'll post pics of it disassembled if you are interested.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 12, 2011, 07:28:38 AM
Also, I've read many posts and I've not read too many theories on what the thing bolted on the upright axle is. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on May 12, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
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I'm no electrician, but by "trafo" do you mean a transformer?
Yes. That is the core he is referring too that sits on top of the wood whether connected or not. This "core" sits on top of the block to bring it up to the center of the wheel.
 Viewing your negative photo I searched for the original photo. It was the discoloration that caught my eye. Polarization. The bar is more than likely soft iron.
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=18658

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but that seems an awfully dangerous place to be if all that chain is charged up
This is a different type of charge. The Pmh with the keeper is a a key to understanding this. If you build one with 2 coils as I mentioned before you will see the Ac nature in it. Sort of like taking a pipe with a cap on it then putting a garden hose in it. You have 2 directions of flow.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 12, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
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It was the discoloration that caught my eye. Polarization. The bar is more than likely soft iron.

Thanks IotaYota. Ok, so if that bar can swing, and in the original photo it doesn't seem to have the angle to touch the 'transformer' but instead looks like it might swing back over the wheel to either capture or deflect the magnetic field... but to what? On my model, so far I've had no results with chains at the front of the machine(although I'd not thought about it being a transformer, I admit). Not as a magnetization station, nor a pmh station.

I admit I'm not sure I'm making a chain into a proper pmh, but my simple method was to loop the chain, connecting both ends to a tiny bar that went through holes in a small metal strips attached to the sides of an alligator clip. One end of the chain was a wire loop made with some soft magnetic wire I had lying around the shop. This had wraps on either side of the chain of very small gauge copper wire wound and attached 'like' the pmh to a small micro-amp bulb from a cd player. My understanding is that I can release the energy by cutting the last wire link?

I am also aware that my little machine and chain may not produce enough charge to light the bulb, but I lack electrical measuring tools. Hoping to borrow my nephew's during summer break if I've got it built again by then.

One thing concerns me about the transformer idea, however. There are transformers all over Ed's wall. None seem to have the optical characteristics of the object on the wood.

If we assume everything Ed used, aside from what he made for himself, came from a Model T Ford of some year, can't anyone who's rebuilt one identify that part?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 13, 2011, 09:03:02 AM
I'm wondering if anyone has attempted to make a schematic of the entire room?  In the picture I have of the gear reduction device, it seems to be set into a carved out notch(?) in the limestone, but I've no idea where it is in relation to the wheel or other devices in his shop. Can anyone supply or point me to some drawing of the place? 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on May 13, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
i was wondering how close the pipe is to the rotor? and how far in the ground does it go?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on May 15, 2011, 04:39:45 AM
Hey David. If I were you, I would try to develope it into something practical.
Many people may see "something" but to make something of it is something else....not trying to dis you or anything.
      of course!..i wanted to let you know that matt [magnetic universe] has had one of my devices to examine for a while and both him and his son clearly observed the field radiated from my device. also TPU bruce had that same device and he, his wife and daughter clearly saw the exact same radiation. these devices with zero movement still radiate a visible field. many replicators have seen and FELT this energy field that i describe. it is NOT only an optical disruption, but an inertial change, kind of like a different axis? i am currently working on a prototype optical lens, without glass, using the optical distortion from a device as the lens. if you want, you could examine the device after jetijs, harvey and glen have a chance to test it. but you have a REAL Ed generator you dont really need to see mine, but the offer still stands. thank you for your interest, david                                                                                                                                 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 15, 2011, 08:17:59 AM
@ David, I've never gotten a 'locking' effect from any wiring wrap I've done. Has yours actually locked together? It should be easily testable by connecting the 'charge' wires to a small light or volt meter (neither of which I have at this time, although, I confess my interest is more in the engineering than in it's effects at this time).

My lack of results regarding a magnetic current locking things together, along with the necessity for the bolts and concrete have led me to consider that maybe it's not meant to be a pmh, but rather is a device that concentrates, separates, then gives off it's individual magnets.

Still, your wheel and what it's possibly doing is intriguing.

Anyway, I thought I'd post a few pics of my machine almost ready for reassembly. I hope any of you will feel free to tell me if I've missed something. Dimensions I can play with, but I am still having troubles identifying a few key components so I would greatly appreciate input from anyone who's been there. This is still a labor of love, but without these key components my theories wont come together. Thanks in advance!
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Post by: IotaYodi on May 15, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
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matt [magnetic universe] has had one of my devices to examine for a while and both him and his son clearly observed the field radiated from my device
Matt is pretty much an expert on the pmh. What he has related to me from his observations is the Amps are magnified but the voltage seems to stay the same. The resounding grunt when the keeper is removed with just an aa battery to charge it seems to verify it. With his 2 coil Ac like pmh he says there is a definite tingle to it. With the wheel setup having alternating polarity's as it turns that would be like ac just like a magneto. The wheel setup could be just that to produce high voltage pulses. That might mean a coil or transformer was interfaced with it to increase voltage. As a kid we had a tractor that used a magneto that was hand cranked to start it.

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My lack of results regarding a magnetic current locking things together, along with the necessity for the bolts and concrete have led me to consider that maybe it's not meant to be a pmh
I see it as an input to a pmh type circuit setup.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 16, 2011, 12:33:51 PM
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I see it as an input to a pmh type circuit setup.
I'm intrigued... If you don't mind my asking, how so? What part do you think is the pmh? The chain perhaps?

I realize the tedium a constant flow of freshmen must be to you who've been working this problem for years, and, lest I forget, I thank you all very much for the most valuable information you've shared in this post and others already. Many of your insights have helped to formulate my ideas.

I've read most of what I could find on Ed on this forum and many others, I've read his books and done and verified his experiments, and I believe I may have some ideas that seem a little different from the norm. So, my hope is that someone out there with a full size model that might be struggling with things like wiring would be willing to do a full size test, depending on my results.

One theory I've considered, but not tried yet(mostly due to scale as always) and the reason I've replicated the crankshaft and case, is an idea that I got from what appears to be a large amount of iron filings on the crank nodes which are normally quite shiny. If enough magnets were stored in the hardened iron crankshaft nodes, then perhaps they might set up four vertically moving magnetic fields in the cast iron crank case and perhaps the long paper(?) with the steel wire wrapped around it is an inductance coil that is inserted into a vertical hole at the back of the crankcase in the coral to capture that moving field? Just a theory... again I think you can easily spot my lack of knowledge.

All I have to go on is the pictures and videos I've seen on the internet and all of your ideas. I've not answered much so far, but I've only recently joined in this little mystery. I've read his books, done his experiments and verified what he described. I guess I am still an idiot because I still don't quite know what that wheel is capable of. I do wish my brain worked like a mathematician's, or even an engineer's, but I am just a tinkerer. I've got to put my hands on it, build it, to know it. Each failure has been a success.

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Post by: IotaYodi on May 16, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
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What part do you think is the pmh? The chain perhaps?
The chain could be the first part of the circuit or the "block" if its iron,then to the chain then to a coil or transformer. He had coils hanging around the place. A coil in the loop could have already been "energized" by a car battery and these batteries have hundreds of amps. If the chain were 99.99% Iron its electrical conductivity is less than 16% compared to copper which is 100%. "Soft" iron which is a low carbon content steel, has a good collapsing magnetic field which induces voltage and amps into a coil. If you pulsed dc current with one polarity or direction the iron becomes permanently magnetized. After a while it would prevent any magnetic collapse that induces V/A into the coil. Alternating the polaritys keeps the collapse going and stops permanent magnetization. The wheel itself is alternating polaritys. I dont believe the wheel stayed rotating but only put charge in a circuit comprised of coils or transformers. Batteries may have even been in the loop. Im still thinking there are 2 coils and possibly a transformer in this circuit and possibly 2 batterys. One coil to externally energize from a battery and the other to keep the flow of "magnetic current" alternating which in turn would keep the magnetic field collapsing giving voltage and amps. A second battery may have been the "keeper" like in a Pmh to keep it going. I would think this second battery would be hooked to a coil or transformer. Just like in any circuit the design has to be thought out and things put in sequence with experimentation in order for it to work. He used basic conducting materiel's. If he didnt use a battery to initially charge it then a coil or transformer would be needed with the wheel. I think a major point is what he used as the "keeper" to keep the flow of energy going.
Just my thoughts on it. 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 17, 2011, 04:23:26 AM
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If you pulsed dc current with one polarity or direction the iron becomes permanently magnetized.

Agreed, however, consider there are four nodes. If the polarities of each node alternated, then could a permanent field be established within the iron case? Would the fields collapse on each rotation? This is the reason I've incorporated four small barrel magnets as the 'nodes' on my 'crank shaft', each oriented(to the best of my ability) seemingly alternating. I know the effect will be very small on my model, but I should be able to get something measurable if it's a viable theory.

I do believe the theory that the wheel needed to be spinning in order for it to throw off it's magnets and to get them into a vortex. Consider, the only positive result I've gotten, was the magnetization of a chain hanging over the wheel. It only seemed to magnetize when the wheel was spinning. Again, I do believe my wheel winding was wrong, but it seems to have charged it enough to produce and reproduce an effect, and that result has led to a theory of operation. Since he modified a gear reduction box from a transmission and seems to have carved a niche' for it in the coral(if my photos are to be believed), and since he talks of(I admit it's cryptic) feeding "boys and girls differently" wouldn't it stand to reason that he had some way to control the speed, and hence the amount of magnets thrown off? I just need to know where it is in the room since proximity to the wheel is part of my theory.

As for the charge, my theory is he demagnetized the v-mags before assembly. I've tried magnetizing my little magnets before assembly, and to hold them together while trying to assemble them is impossible with the constant repulsion. I believe that's the reason for the concrete, because once charged, these things didn't lock together, they wanted to fly apart. So there's some wiring configuration I've missed so far. But, while it's really difficult to measure, my wheel did turn a small hanging magnet as it spun, implying at least, that the fields set up by my wiring produced the same unique magnetic alternating polarity as in Ed's wheel.

I can see three places, given what I've seen in photos, of course, where the wheel itself could be inducing a magnetic field into a coil and transformer. Again, I'm  assuming everything needed to run his wheel is in the picture of him using it.

One other thing to ask about, I'm wondering if the box in front, on the "north wood" could possibly be a simple coil and magneto? Spin the wheel fast enough and you wouldn't notice any flicker in the light? Too many ideas...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 17, 2011, 05:32:50 AM
" Magnetic currents are made by concentrating. then dividing and then shifting the existing North and South Pole individual magnets from one place to another........As soon as those little individual magnets get pushed out of the soft iron core then they run in the coil. When they run in the coil they are in bulk form. The coil's part is to divide those little individual magnets from bulk form in small paths.......This shows that during the time the coil moves through the U shape magnet the coil becomes a magnet, but its function is double. Some individual North and South Pole magnets run through the coil's wire crosswise, and some run through the coil's wire lengthwise." Ed. L

" Now about the sphere magnet.  If you have a strong magnet you can change the poles in the sphere in any side you want or take the poles out so the sphere will not be a magnet any more. From this you can see that the magnet can be shifted and concentrated and also you can see that the metal is not the real magnet. The real magnet is the substance that is circulating in the metal." Ed. L

BTW, that A/C buisness Matt Emery has on his site is nonsense.
The reason he did that is because I observed an A/C signal on my own pmh model.
I used to be Matt's partner but he went off on his own path.
That A/C signal turned out to be induction from the surrounding area, and Matt has no idea of the tests i did to determine it. Matt's theory has nothing to do with Magnetic Current functions!!!!
The pmh is big and it is induced by stray fields in the local vicinity...induction from outside. Just moving it around generates currents in the coils.
I doubt Matt has ever seen any A/C signal in his coils.
When the pmh is locked it takes alot of outside flux to break the magnetic circuit.
Cheers.
Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on May 17, 2011, 06:43:42 AM
Forgive me, Scotty, but I'm not sure the reference. If you are responding to me, are you inferring perhaps, that the crank case is the magnet and that the nodes are acting not just as the magnets, but as the coils and the crank shaft is a conduit to the wheel? Am I even close? I realize I am out of my league here, but maybe something I come up with in back-engineering this thing could help in your theories?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on May 17, 2011, 03:06:08 PM
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That A/C signal turned out to be induction from the surrounding area, and Matt has no idea of the tests i did to determine it
Thanks Scotty! That does put things in a different light.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Cherryman on May 18, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Well.. Here some background info you might find interesting:

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/content/10-secret-egyptians-edward-leedskalnin-7129-6105195-nikola-tesla-3-6-9.html (http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/content/10-secret-egyptians-edward-leedskalnin-7129-6105195-nikola-tesla-3-6-9.html)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on June 03, 2011, 04:39:43 AM
I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: TEKTRON on June 03, 2011, 05:58:47 AM
would you mind resizing those pics? 800x600 max.
Thanks
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rcsquared on June 03, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Got it figured out. So, once again, I'm about ready for final assembly. This is the first time I've documented as I was unaware of this forum until just recently. If anyone sees anything missing please let me know. I have noticed in some internet pictures what seem to be two wires inside the well of the machine. Any confirmation? This winding is with an unknown gauge of wire from a cd player motor coil. It's 144 winds x 3 wraps. So far,the only results came from this winding. Along is a miniature pmh made of steel coat hanger and iron spring just because I wanted to see if it scaled down and as you can see, it does. I've no voltmeter and it's such a minimal charge, I've no light it will activate.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: TEKTRON on June 04, 2011, 04:30:47 AM
Thanks rc², Much easer to read now. :D
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Hope on August 25, 2011, 06:03:54 PM
I have asked my self countless times "how can we use this endless sea of energy we are afloat in"?  We can't if we are moving with it because there is not potential difference.  That is why the zero point is so very important.  Example:  We have a barge with a large paddle wheel generator built on it and we are afloat on a swift endless river. We can do work on the barge and have that works benefits BUT the generator is useless for the most part UNTIL we somehow anchor to a non moving shore (the zero point).  Walter Russell's charts show us the cycle of all that is created and the point of creation and the point of utter destruction (the zero point) is noted.  So how do we attach to it?  We are on the threshold of solving this.  Understanding the actions of this Gabriel device will show us this attaching mechanism.  What a fitting name you have chosen Mavendex, for it also explains why we are placed here on this world.  It explains why there needs be opposition in all things.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Hope on August 25, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
So this is my take on Ed's Wheel.  Notice how the magnets are pointing outward and the center of the bars are pointing inward?   I believe he was making a zero point in this center of magnets to attach to so he could draw from the sea of energy.  David I believe what we are seeing on your wheel of u shapes is the creation point of "all" which is near the "zero point" (destruction point) but travels outward till creation happens again.  See Walter Russell charts to understand better.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on March 26, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
Hello,

I have studied Edward Leedskalnin for some time, and the holistic teaching. Somebody mentioned about induction being a factor in the faster than light velocities of the magnets, and it was suggested that it was quite a troublesome deal, intercepting a packet of data/light or a physical magnet, that travels in precession to the trigger.

In any case, it was suggested that there would be a great difficulty in dealing with this, in a 'modular' 'singular' device this would be true (as afterall predicting the time the flow of the current appears is not a simple feat in terms of the induction relationship, and indeed the quadrature of the induced wave).

In this case we have the newtonian f1 force, and the reactive newtonian f2 force, and the way around, the problem presented by the faster than light, a larger assembly must be built. This might be compared to the likes of a wave guide, such as demonstrated in the works of Nikola Tesla and Oliver Heaviside.


I have more documentation if you are interested in PDF format quoting directly Jim Le Surf's work and theorising the applications of negative resistance oscillators, their meaning/importance in electrogravitics and how the f2 reactive force,  beign aligned with the newtonian f1 active force would result in a conservational runaway, whereby the balance of the force is being longitudinal directed from the transverse.

Edward Leedskalnin would consider the "Longitudinal" 291,000mi/sec (or ratio of C therafter) wave form propogations to consist of "horizontal" or "vertical" only force, and the transverse sinusoidal wave (that features a 90 degree relationship) consists of BOTH horizontal and vertical. Here we have the demonstration that Eric Dollard, Nikola Tesla and Oliver Heaviside importantly makes, including that of Keeley and Lopez, there is a CLEAR seperation in the TWO fields that dictate the operation of a transformer coil.

In this case, the maxwell theory in the state it is (without quaternions or the original derivatives), is woeful , and limited to second order differentials only, that make the erroneous and deluded assumption that the field vector of dielectric longitudinal and transverse magnetic are one, indeed, the works of Steinmetz in R. Kline's book "Steinmetz: Engineer and Socialist" revealed that they were seperate and independent forces which formed the "antithesis" of each-other. As Eric Dollard rightly points out in his SFTS (San Francisco Tesla Society) lectures tha thave been recently leaked onto youtube, the rule of law in space is different, and the growth and diminishment of waves is too.

Interestingly it was Steinmetz who discovered that high voltage, high frequency transmission lines would "asymptotically" increase their voltage with distance in AC transmission lines, this of course presented a rather difficult problem for the proper regulation of electrical circuits, one of which Steinmetz worked at length on, and it was Heaviside that worked a great deal on the equations of Maxwell, and  him too that simplified them under a significant pressure from the scientific community. Science as it exists today uses a delusive Maxwellian theory based on a perfect iron core, and the incorrect and broken assumption that the dielectric field exists "as" the magnetic field, "as one", in truth, and practical experimentation, such as the work by schauberger, grebenikov and tesla, shows they are not, and are seperate and distinct antithesis', e.g. that the cavity structure effect, and such technology represents a very real and exhaustive conclusion as to the nature of universe, life, and more, but it exists mostly beyond 2nd order differentials, Steinmetz developed an engineering/graphing language to represent AC waves, imagine a 3hz signal and a 7hz signal, in an AC phase system. I think it's clear where the peaks and troughs appear determines the superposition of the waves. Wave guide concepts important to the TMT, electromechanics, electromagnetics and electrogravitics, I would claim.

Smokey, a post I read at the beginning of this thread inspired me to share everything that I know as best I can, because it seems there are a few good men on this planet, that are willing to do the same, I shall step forward and try and give it as best as I can. There are radiation that is emitted (dot product expansion), and there is radiation that is absorbed (dot product compression). There is an expanding force and a contracting force (this is remarkably like the longitudinal force).

Gravity reveals something about electricity that is surprising. Take a metal head hammer, and smack it against a piece of metal on the planet earth hard enough, and you will get a spark, the size of that spark determines the amount of volts, and those volts were determined by the mechanical force of the hammer hitting the metal, and the resistance of the metal from the hammer (newtons laws), we see that not only does mechanical energy produce electricity, but electricity can produce mechanical energy (the difference is that between a motor and a dynamo), we also see that gravity produces the mechanical energy, otherwise there would be no weight to the hammer, and thus no f1 force, and thus no f2 reactive force.

Without gravity magnetic action, there is no mechanical magnetic action, and when there is no mechanical magnetic action there can be no electrical action, and where there is no gravity magnetic action, there can be neither.

Take a meteor or an asteroid in the vacuum of space, traveling at a constant speed, upon approaching the earth it is said to "Accelerate" as it is "caught" in the "well" or "wake" of the planets so called 'mass', regardless of mass or magnets causing this force we can see that the asteroid has ENERGY STORED, and the thing that allows the ENERGY STORED in the constant initial velocity of that meteor or asteroid (regardlesss of the acceleration caused by gravity), will require the waveforce of gravity, and the resistance of the "ground" to release that energy.

Simply with nothing to push off there is no f2.

I hope that this risk, and this work is worthwhile and one day might benefit humanity,

I also would like to say to smokey that I have the full original copy if you are still looking for it.

Note: I have been aware of this thread for sometime as it linked to my articles that I wrote at conspiracy.co, and since I have been silently watching (although not reading all of smokeys stuff, wow your good ;) ). Might I suggest, although a bit crazy, my work puts a new and interesting direction into the holistic works of the field of Solomon, the great work, and the trinity energies and CROSS PRODUCTS we deal with. Look into the sky like I do and you will see the Aether, it's "Y" factor.

I would say this, moving a mountain is no more complicated than inducting a field into an assymetric ground point thereby causing negative rotation in an unbalanced way, moving the mountain feet, or even miles. This is akin to the claim that tesla made about "cracking the earth in two", he was refering to the rotary magnetic field, the cumulative TMT effect, and the iron magma in the ground, to which pressure could be overtly forced.

It is of course no wonder that people that work with this are attacked, given such implications. I cannot communicate enough how lonely this work can be, it's burden, or how the heart weaps at the lost efforts of those such as Eric Dollard, Wilhelm Reich, Chris Carson, Scotty, Smok3y, and many others,

I wish things were different. Unfortunately they are not. Look at the work the Nazi's did with the Parametric Transformer, and the tight locality to the emergence of the 'electron technology' and the emergence of world war scenario's. Surely we would be fools to think that it was mere co-incidence, fools to think that the ancient pyramid builders civilisation whose word the Egyptians discovered and preserved in part - did not in part destroy itself, to account for the rather large gaping hole between electromagnetics and the truth about magneto dielectrics.

The fact is I am not as smart as I would like to be, but maybe that is just as well, in that, just as well I couldn't listen to the tripe I was taught during Q.E.D lessons that the "resistance in the wire" changes.

The thing that fascinated me was how I was explicitly told that measuring the voltage or amperage in a wire 100 times was "more accurate".

This truly is a great madness more than anything else, as I child I could not emphasise my bemusment, as the voltage and amperage was the physical value that was measured each time. As a musician it was not heard for me to see, that in this case "TIME" was the variable that changed. Using such techniques we merely measure the 'average' of the dielectric , the magneto dielectric, and the CROSS PRODUCTS.

I may have been infantile and stupid as a student, but today I am bold and good-sighted enough to point out to you, that this averaging of the varying resistance is a madness that physically removes the evidence of cross product fluctuations for the aether. From my exhaustive researches, it appears this was done because the Aether itself was very hard to account for, indeed, as in negative resistance oscillators, it is very had to account for the "exponential increase in energy" , and the 'source' of the reactive component, nonetheless, both exist, and it is the source of the reactive component (that comes from somewhere in the universe due to the OSC) that actually inhibits the so-called negative resistance oscillators, which by ordinary maxwellian theory alone, suggest theoretically they will cumulatively oscillate given a constant excitation whereby the losses per second are less than the constant excitation.

I'm sorry, I do waffle a lot.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: CompuTutor on March 28, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
It is so refreshing to read a long entry like this that hits every nail on the (proverbial) head.

Just to read that, and not find dozens of errors is refreshing in the very least.

I don't compliment often, as you all know...

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on March 28, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
It is so refreshing to read a long entry like this that hits every nail on the (proverbial) head.

Just to read that, and not find dozens of errors is refreshing in the very least.

I don't compliment often, as you all know...

In the unlikely event that you might be referring to my post, might I thank you sincerely for your kind words, I did not expect it.

I wrote some music (notice the representation of the waves I use in the music to mimic a TMT (impulses per width, per time) (about 3 minutes 02). The note length per bar is reduced by n/2, and added a video presentation piece with some of commentary from Dollard and Wilhelm Reich, I think it is quite accurate, in terms of conveying to the original man where he must start, "to go on to explain" the "different set of dimensions", "velocity of light is simply an expression of the radio of energy to mass, which is a constant - not a limit".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vae8lCC_T2c#!

I hope that someone will, at sometime in the future, listen to this recording with great respect. .... That they all without any exception, are against , I say, against what I am doing. Every single one of them, slightly interferes with my effort, prophecies out, rolls out, flattens out, that one thing or another , whatever it may be, to diminish my efforts, no, to diminish the effects of my efforts, to block out the sharpness and acuity of my thoughts, to reduce to rubble and nothing, or nothingness" - Wilhelm Reich

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 05, 2012, 01:42:04 PM
Hey was that reply talking to me? :)

If you want to discuss stuff more I'd be happy. I just performed some interesting experiments with magnetic current that catches the sparks rotating with the RMF , which is interesting, to say the least, and slightly confirmatory.

If only the transformer physicists knew that the reason their coil's geometry wasn't because of the left hand rule or proper 90 degree induction at all, but because the physical magnets in the wire themselves are spinning around.

That is why the best most efficient transformer will be circular, because the magnets are spinning around, and it has nothing to do with the electron rule itself, but the actual rotational movement of the substance moving around in an iron core.

I believe this is what Oliver Heaviside was researching in some depth, as well as C. P. Steinmetz (hysteresis) , maxwell quarternion's etc.

It's really quite simple, once you're able to live with these two facts.

1) Waveforms can travel at faster than C and 'merge' to form what we call C, this is the ratio of energy to mass (a cross product balanced conversational exchange. )
2) The earth itself is a giant magnet, and space a giant vacuum capacitor, and any current running in any wire, will be affected by the more dominant magnet. A motor that rotates with the sun is not a new Idea, both I and Tesla suggest it, and both I and Tesla insist at the detriment of our reputation, that other previous civilisations had, and were able to achieve such a thing either through necessity or the capacity for their observation of nature and magnetic and electric currents.

In any case this should be enough to completely transform most peoples realities, as we still believe in the delusive electron theory, when in fact the magnets was the substance pushing the 'electrons' around all along, and the transformer is only round to allow the most effective transmission of that magnet substance, if it leaves the wire the resistance is much higher, however simply the magnetic substance prefers to rotate; that is the magnets in the transformer,  regardless of the fleming right hand rule, wish to spin, and if they cannot spin, then electrons cannot be made. - (in fact the fleming rule should be thrown away for this particular area) because any other geometrical shape of the wire, will affect the magnets traversal, not the total induction (because essentially they are whirling magnets in circle like vortex fashion) - and the wire being anything other than that, will cause the magnets to escape, or to reflect. This means without doubt that it is the traversal of the magnets that is responsible for the total induction, and the total induction is responsible for the total power. Note whilst the scientists are half right: that the total induction by a magnetic current is responsible for the total power. They missed the secret of the pyramid builders, that the total induction is related to the total magnetic current; since our Transformer is magnetic, and since the electricity is also magnetic, and since the earth is magnetic, and all of the planets, proper use of these fields will require alignment on every imaginable axis.

We just need those balanced products to be unbalanced. We just need energy, or light from somewhere, on one side, and the other side will move towards it, like the planets. Remember you do not ever see the sun, you see it's reflection on the atmosphere, and that should be enough to tell you about magnets, time, and the disconnected reality,  between what created that sun in the sky (transverse reflections off non vacuum atmosphere) and what was actually there (the longitudinal component of the sun that is not visible to naked eye without reflection, because it's speed exceeds that of light).

That is probably enough ranting on,

I know I do not explain perfectly, but, I do explain. Which is more than I can say for the scientific and engineering statuses of the explanation for transformer core's. As the great Tesla once said it reads like "delusive fictional work". I cannot say anymore, because apparently for the last 100 years our best electrical engineers, including those at RCA have known that the alignment and subsequent rotation (position) of the planets relative to the earth affect quite clearly the transmission lines that they maintained.

Of course the ignorant, stupid , arrogant, physicist, who has been taught it all works like x y and z, and is not required to maintain electrical circuits with an accuracy that reflects the original maxwellian reality of quaternion (non second derivative) can continue to live inside his delusive 3 dimensional universe, and they can ignore all of those magnets axis reacting with eachother, or pretend that they understand it well, or worse that the planets and their magnets , they are isolated and apart. They are wrong, so for the rest of us we'll be picking up where the Pyramid Builders left off, and, where the Egyptians started. We'll be seeing transformers that  with a multimeter end to end, the voltage and current show 0, but inside there is so much electricity being made from the square root of -1 , one might need to be careful not to permanently terminate ones life.

Remember how thick those bits of chains were, what do you think the maximum rating for them is?

You should know with 12Volts and a high amperage car battery I'm getting sparks the length of my arm

;)


Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 16, 2012, 12:39:08 AM
I have furthered my experimentation:

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/11759-my-experiments-magnetic-current-iii.html#post18787


Best,
A
Title: On the subject of Waves, Magnetic Current & The Bolinas Marconi Installation
Post by: 7redorbs on April 16, 2012, 12:57:29 PM
The following passage is the result of many years of amateur observation, in the field of magnetic current and conductors. You will find that through my basic inspection of simple faculties such as the waves of the ocean, we are able to discover the presence of some 'cosmic force rays' emanations which account for the currents in the vast and long sea conductor in the same way as the phenomenon in long transmission lines is referred to as "Anomalous Voltages in Transformers", this cosmic 'interference' in transformers has been known for the last 100 years or so (Dollard). Whilst of course it has been known to Dollard, and a few others, there has not been a simple rational approach to prove this cosmic forces effect to the layman. Except the sea.


Of course it has been known by the engineers at RCA for almost 100 years now that planets affect the transmission in a line (Dollard). Further, alchemists and scientists have known 1000's, maybe 10's of thousands of years that the distance or phase of the moon affects the current of the huge ocean. Both are entirely independently established.

What appears abundantly clear is that nobody has put the two together yet, in the wheelwork of nature, as Tesla hinted ; the sea waves gain their additional energy via the cosmic induction of local magnetic forces, so does the long transmission wire. As both are independently established I can be thanked for merely adding the two faculties together to more readily describe a higher current. Both Ocean and Wire seem to have the same source of higher current intereference thusly, and both have had this 'external gain', or 'fluctuation variation' measured with a high degree of accuracy. This leaves the sea and the transmission line as conductors to be effected by this cosmic power. Induction being comparable to the size of a conductor and the strength of the effecting total local magnetic induction(s).

As such we may be discussing the subject or harnessing the collective power of the cosmic force in the same was as the Ocean, except in the oceans abscence a transmission line, or sea of aether being present.

Now, with this explanation there is no anomalous currents in the ocean, or in any wire and thusly there can be no anomalous waves in any transformer coil anywhere, or any anomalous voltage at all. Merely a re-interpretation was required to account for the sources of the induction, not this madness we call 'intereference'. The largest ratified conductor of great length and width would have to be the sea.


And now for the paragraph of inspiration in my mind that really inspired this thought:

"The sea being a large and long conductor body connected together, exhibits the cosmic wave forms caused by rays from outer space in the same way the first transmission lines did. The factor of strength of the induced wave current caused by outer space cosmic rays is based solely the distance of the moon from the planet, or the closest, most dominant magnetic pole. As is the wire" -

I saw someone posted an Einstein quote about reinspecting the groundwork of physics, nothing could be more important than this, especially today.



Does this mean the moon puts magnets in the Ocean as the nearest magnetic source? The same way cosmic ray interferes put's voltage in wire?

That is what I have gone at length to indicate for your further researches and pursuits..


And don't forget the Alexanderson Generator which was seized by RCA in 1914, used longitudinal waves of a speed of 291,000mi/sec, 105,000mi/sec faster than the speed of light 186,000mi/sec.

Maybe it is time to start making all kinds of light with your conductor arrangements. (I really wish and cannot fathom why there is not more interest in this). So I will take the danger of posting the truth about this technology as best I know it.

Best Wishes,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: truesearch on April 16, 2012, 05:02:02 PM
@hope
@7redorbs

Based on your understandings and concepts of Leedskalnin's work how can we go about building a working device to tap into the magnetic force?

truesearch

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 17, 2012, 12:21:07 PM
Creating a new Working Device that employs faster than light wave speeds is not a new concept. This is something you can find in the Marconi Wireless Alexanderson Generator designed by Steinmetz's Protege Alexanderson (hence the flawless generator being named after him).

The Alexanderson Type Generator using the improved multiple loaded flat top antennae, which was subsequently removed just after WW2, there is absolutely no doubt that with it's diminished leakages and multiplicate reicrulcating currents, the Radio Aerial is capable of generating 1000's of times more powerful radio signals than a regular Rhombic Transverse D type aerial. Surely then, this must be why Eric Dollard was chased by an environmentalist group called "COMMONWEAL", and had his equipment bulldozed by a SWAT team, for the use of this type of technology. Of course, it is considered a harassment, for the sole reason that the magneto dielectric (i.e. using longitudinal waves) is vastly and infinitely superior to the fallacy that we call today the most advanced electrical technology. The Transverse system, as such must be treated as a complete joke.

The reasoning is because the Rhombic Transverse Aerial type (look it up) is a Transverse ONLY Sinusoidal wave form receiver. Whereas the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae might be considered to propogate both transverse waves at 186,000mi/sec (light), and longitudinal waves at 291,000mi/sec ("another kind of light"), because at any given time in the Multiple Loaded Flat Antennae's both used by Alexanderson and Leedskalnin there is clearly more than 2nd order type currents running through it. (Given the relationship between Transverse (horizontal + vertical) and longitudinal (horizontal only) waves.)

My response, is plain, The Alexanderson Generator does all the same things with magnetic current that Edward Leedskalnin does, and that is why in 1914, it was seized from Marconi, and put away from the sights of the public at the beginning of about World War I, this is documented historically and has been under military government general rule under RCA since nog long after then. Obviously the longitudinal 291,000mi/sec propogations do not belong in the public eye since about the beginning of World War I, this does not change the irrefutable fact that both Tesla and Reich speak at length of these waves. As we know all magnetic current to run in any direction must run in the other (as in Newtons Law), however in the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae, many , many, many currents are running, at different moments, forming a complex synthesis of Alternating Currents, with negligible leakage, and essentially a magnification or amplification effect over time. (Remember the load is utilised in the same way, there is no overunity, just magnetic concentration at the center, and preventing it's leakage. If anyone has wondered, this is why the Earth can spin, because more magnets hit that magnetic centre of the planet on the East.

If you had thought of the Earth as an electrical transformer,  you would see the goal of a 15 degree adjustment, and indeed, the mutual goal of the degree's 105 and 195, and, indeed, their 90 degree separation, and, if the earth a transformer, and a sun an inductor, then, you will see why the Egyptians had it right, and indeed, why the Pyramid Builders, also, had it right too.

Size of conductor is obviously important, as is the size of your FRAMING, if you increase the transformer frame size, and scale up, it becomes clear, what runs in a wire as a fluctuation is at all times being inducted by the cosmic force and the local magnetic force of the earth.

If you were to run your magnetic current in the vacuum of space, I think you might be impressed with the difference away from the local magnetic field of the earth (the ground).



Indeed, the culmination in the MLFTA of transverse and longitudinal propogations become reactive components to eachother, in the same way that the North and South Pole magnetic currents form recirprocals or antithesis of eachother. This is akin to Newtons claim that for every f1 there was a diametrically opposed f2 force in the absolute opposite vector. You could say that the longitudinal waveform and the transverse wave form, combined with a trigonometric frame of reference (and making the right multiple connections) one is able to alter the phase of the reactive f2 force, whereby it might be aligned with the f1 input force, therefore causing a 3rd derivative of "f3" whereby f3 = f1+f2 and whereby f3 consisting of f1 input and f2 reactive force on the same vector alignment, then f4 reactive force will equal f3 or f1+f2. This is a very interesting and bold statement, I would not put forward to share if I did not feel had a definite and grounded base to it.


When we re-inspect the work of Tesla at Wardenclyffe, and indeed Leedskalnin himself, and his many books , we become open to the positively true fact that the planets, or magnetic polar regions of stars, are in reality quite effecting the planet earth's ocean to gain a very large amount of energy. This derived energy in the wave's of the ocean comes positively from the nearest local magnetic influence, and, right now the closest magnetic influence is the moon. All of that energy in those ocean waves came from other planet's magnetic influence, as we established, and thusly such a wire transmission line as massive as the ocean, would indeed, be subject to the fluctuations of the planets , and the stars, in the same manner, total surface area of the conductor, and the volume, and symmetry, being key. The earth being entirely round, and consisting of 4 quadrants, and having differing permeability to the magnets of the star, we are able to see the cosmic force building up, and taking down the atoms of rock matter by this system.

This is both how Edward Leedskalnin did it, as well as the Ancient Pyramid Builders, as well as Nikola Tesla accomplished his theory. Except, in the world of wireless radio transmission, a transmission line of physical MASS of wire, is totally unrequired, since, in the sea of the aether, a similar surface area and volume to the sea, of which is receiving the same kinetic influence, is abundant in it's availability.

I do promise this is a fact, and you can start work right now, simply by following the Work of Eric Dollard and Chris Carson on the rotary electrostatic transformer, or follow the early work of the German Government and Military throughout 1914-45 study on Parametric transformation, best read Eric Dollard Wireless Power and Eric Dollard Primary & Secondary Coils to get a firmer grasp on the historic nature of radio systems, since about 1890, and the involvement of Oliver Heaviside, and the Maxwell theory as a whole.

I will save you some time, though, there are 2 versions of Maxwell. One that works for longitudinal wave propagations of 291,000mi/sec, and one that was written after, with QUATERNIONS REMOVED from it, replaced by 2nd order dervitatives vectors ONLY, therefore being totally unsuitable of representing propagations faster than 186,000mi/sec, (ignoring phase velocity), and as a result the Four Quadrant Theory of 'gravitic' or rather, magnetic lag and lead time, and electrical distribution, have been lost to the ages.


It was only after inexhaustible efforts to uncover this knowledge, and a life almost ruined to get as far as I have. The things that you ultimately have to sacrifice to understand Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reichs and Edward Leedskalnins work is shed this stupid idea of material gains. Part of the longitudinal component is , as well as massless, completely immaterial component, which seems to form the antithesis, or rather the dielectric longitudinal counterpart to the transverse sinsusoidal function, attained merely by distribution of a transformer alone, and usually unseperated in Transverse type systems, can be seperated into the TRANSVERSE (HORIZONTAL + VERTICAL SINE WAVE COUNTERPART) as well as the LONGITUDINAL (HORIZONTAL ONLY OR VERTICAL ONLY), as you can see by quarternion theory, the longitudinal or (push pull), 180 or 0 degree component sits on the same axis as 1 half of the Transverse wave.

The Transverse Wave shape space/time is "L" shaped.

The Longitudinal Wave Shape space/time is "I" shaped.

The I can fit into the L on two dimensions 90 degree's apart.


I hope I have said enough.


Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on April 18, 2012, 02:32:52 AM
7redobes
  Good job there.You made me smile if that is any consolation to your your years of digging.There was some mention of Scotty in the past tense, did something happen to him?I was looking for his email some months ago and could not remember where I had placed it.
 Ya know at some point you'll have to give a more physical desrcription of a possible design direction.
 Dont take it too much to heart if responses are slow you gave a lot of reading material sugjestions that will be time consumming to locate.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 18, 2012, 09:18:24 AM
@ David, I've never gotten a 'locking' effect from any wiring wrap I've done. Has yours actually locked together? It should be easily testable by connecting the 'charge' wires to a small light or volt meter (neither of which I have at this time, although, I confess my interest is more in the engineering than in it's effects at this time).


My lack of results regarding a magnetic current locking things together, along with the necessity for the bolts and concrete have led me to consider that maybe it's not meant to be a pmh, but rather is a device that concentrates, separates, then gives off it's individual magnets.

Still, your wheel and what it's possibly doing is intriguing.

Anyway, I thought I'd post a few pics of my machine almost ready for reassembly. I hope any of you will feel free to tell me if I've missed something. Dimensions I can play with, but I am still having troubles identifying a few key components so I would greatly appreciate input from anyone who's been there. This is still a labor of love, but without these key components my theories wont come together. Thanks in advance!

Firstly thank you Doug, I've read many of your posts here, and am glad that I made you smile. For me there is no substitute for proper information, and now I've got it it's alarmingly entertaining listening to the gaps between Tesla' theory, and what scientists think they know about it! I appreciate sincerely that there is a requirement for me to explain further as to how the Leedskalnin wheel would operate perpetual motion. I think I can follow that lead, (forgive the electrical pun).

@rcquared do not lose faith buddy. I followed your experiments from the start. Does a glass of water exhibit waves like the ocean? Why? Now apply that theory to your device. (or See Dollards comments about OU type free energy devices over 500KVA, e.g. non small scale set-ups being basic the start of the threshold for a larger magnetic field of influence). Leedskalnin said magnets are only effective in great number, volume and surface area of your device matter, I expect.

I want to be specific, the speed that those magnets move per second, for a differential current (more than one overlay), we will need a wire of sufficient length, otherwise those north pole magnets will reach the end, and start rotating from the beginning again, before that South pole magnet goes in to chase it.

This is why long transmission lines exhibit these harmonics, because the speed of those North and South pole magnets going accross the wire, determine the polar lead time, if the wire is of an insufficient length then you will only have one type of magnet arrangement in your wire, if your wire is long, then your wheel can impress many kinds of magnets that travel around it the same time.

This is Tesla's dielectricity, and Ed was working with it in his chains, the wheel as suggested does provide those north and south pole magnets, in the wire, based on time, but those magnets we pass, they are spinning and turning at high speed, so, the length of the chain/wire is important. A small scale version might not be sufficiently long.

The ocean is long enough for dielectric currents to form because it's conductor is of sufficient length for both varied north and south pole magnets to be in it one after eachother. This is why Ed's wheel alternates between NN and SS poles, when it is rotated, over time, as to put those magnets , or lines of force into the chains where those magnets are in front of or behind eachother. Then they come back in again on the wheel like the planet earth into the "south polar" region of the wheel. The North polar and West Polar region of the wheel are terminated by wooden blocks.

I think we need to remember the African Ancients planned for this. They have passed distinct messages down to us, and in accordance with such they left phrases like "Go back and get it". Those "familiar in the art" might know what I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankofa

You'll see.... ;)


“Se wo were fi na wosankofa a yenkyi,"

"It is not wrong to go back for that which you have forgotten."

Edward Leedskalnin was not wrong to go back to it either. It's all there guys, please look ;)


My belief is that Edward Leedskalnins created a larger PMH, he stretched the magnetic field in the room to each side and above his wheel, and the magnetic currents recirculate around the chains back to the wheel, and, at high speed, they form an electromagnet, whereby the magnetic wheel is sitting at the equator of the current formations, from the wheel, they continue to push the wheel, perpetually through the magnet, and would be capable of turning the mass of his magnets in the centre point of the magnetic perpetual motion holder into electricity, in the same way that the earth's north and south magnetic poles are able to generate the lightning.

Leedskalnins moral was It is easy when you know how. Recreating it is not as easy, everything must be lined up perfectly, when Leedskalnin says that I do not think he is joking, because the middle is the critical thing that changes when lining things up. Please, consider this when referring to "Centre of Gravity". If TT Brown did it, maybe, Leedskalnin had a reason for his secrecy too.


Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on April 22, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
Hi guy's......felt my ears twitching.  ;D
I haven't been around much due to my wife leaving, and i have to look after my son. Not much time for anything else these days.  :(
I'm just getting back into my experimental work now.
I actually saw a link to this thread on my facebook so i thought i better come see.
Saw my name mentioned and thought i better check in.  ;)
All of my work is gathering dust in my shed, which is a total mess right now!!!
Hopefully i can get back into the swing of things again this year.......maybe i'll find someone else who has done Ed's experiments????
The pmh is one thing, but the complete set of experiments and extrapolation is another.
Ed and Tesla had the same radio theory...more or less.....although Tesla didn't believe in 2 currents, or 2 electricities.....none the less their radio theories are the same concerning the propagation of currents through the ground.
@redorbs....it is interesting that Tesla described the propagation of ground currents at high speed as similar to the passage of the moon's shadow over the Earth....considering your posts.  ;)
I don't talk about Ed much these days....keep to myself on the subject because it is just too hard to describe something that isn't in line with most people's thinking.
For example....Ed said the magnets are the real life....try explaining that to everyone...hahahaha....it can't be done in a post or two.
Anyways...i'm still very much alive and kicking....will try to keep up from now on.
Thanks for the mention.  ;D
Scotty outooooooooooo
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 23, 2012, 01:45:43 AM
For those that enjoyed my previous posting, To make clear my suggestions further, here is a quote from Gary Peterson on the N6KPH yahoo usergroup, I hope he doesnt mind me reposting his comments on Tesla's wireless transmission crystal set. A remarkable conclusion is drawn, there is a field from the ground, and a field propagating in the aether. One is Clockwise? the other Anticlockwise?

This gets into counterspace, as Eric Dollard calls it, and involves framing in the exact engineering scenario that is described by Gary Peterson below. I hope it is well met by overunity members on this thread ;) Thanks for the positive response I really appreciated it ;)



A pair of waves are engendered [that is to say,  theoretically, two propagation modes are excited] by the 50 kW A.M. radio station near Landers, CA and its quarter wave-length vertical monopole with 120 quarter wave ground radials (tower and star radials).  One wave, Hertzian, is the over ground wave [TEM space wave], the other wave, the Telluric [LMD TM terrestrial conductor transmission line wave], is the underground wave.  These two waves arrive at the point of reception in their own distinct time frames, giving rise to a difference in phase.  Hence, multiple rings of interference patterns are produced.  Since the Hertzian portion, over ground, time frame is based upon the velocity of light [C], then the Telluric portion, underground, time frame gives the Telluric velocity, [which may be C x pi/2].
 
Two different types of wireless receivers or wavmeters are used to make this determination.  One has a quarter wave-length vertical monopole antenna with multiple shallow 16 AWG to 80 AWG bare copper ground wires 15 feet long in a star radial configuration, at its base.  No ground rods are used in construction of this underground counterpoise structure.  Better yet, an ungrounded magnetic loop radio antenna is used to assure the instrument is more sensitive to the over-the-ground TEM spacewave emissions of the A.M. broadcast transmitter.
 
The other is configured as a refined Tesla coil true wireless system receiving transformer with an adjustable elevated terminal and, offset some distance to one side, a single deep ground rod terminal electrode that is connected to the bottom of the helical resonator receiving element with a heavily insulated ground wire.  It is  otimized in this way for the reception of 'non-radiating' emissions that propagate from the A.M. broadcast transmitter to the receiver underground with an associated above ground charge-coupled electric field.  This type grounding is necessary for Tesla coil transmitting and receiving transformers to operate properly.

A dual trace oscilloscope connected to both of the receivers is used to observe the relative phase shifting of the two transmitted waves.
 
Hertz Wave Receiver     Tesla Coil Receiver
 
Magnetic Loop Antenna 

The advantage of this experimental protocol is that no authorization to operate a wireless transmitter is required; an already licensed transmitter provides the power.  We have the good fortune in the "Initiative" that, in theory at least, a quarter wave A.M. broadcast tower, and its 120 quarter wave ground radials, must emit a pair of waves as shown by Tesla in his basic diagrams.




Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on April 23, 2012, 10:52:51 PM
 Hay scotty
 long time no hear.
 Had a thought but I let it go.Nah not really,but it has been a couple days since. I was wondering if you ever placed a rogowski coil around the ends of the "U" section of the PMH.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on April 25, 2012, 06:16:18 AM
Hi Doug....never tried that before, although the pmh itself acts like a detector simply because it is so large....mine always shows a small ac current running in it due to the surrounding ac fields from the grid (I think).

@Redorbs, do you have a link to the info you posted. I'd like to see a drawing ect to get a better idea of the setup. It's alot to visualise on its own but i have a rough idea.  :)
Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on April 25, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
Hey, what were you specifically after a drawing of Scotty? For the meantime here is something I found to be of great interest:

Source New York Times, 1927, Title: "Nikola Tesla tells of new Radio Theory"

For all the Leedskalnin fans listening, you should consider it an OLD radio theory, as Tesla did in other quotes. I think you know what I mean.

"I have read the article, and I quite agree with the opinion expressed - that wireless power transmission is impractical with present apparatus.  This conclusion will be naturally reached by any one who recognizes the nature of the agent by which the impulses are transmitted in present wireless practice.

"When Dr. Heinrich Hertz undertook his experiments from 1887 to 1889 his object was to demonstrate a theory postulating a medium filling all space, called the ether, which was structureless, of inconceivable tenuity and yet solid and possessed of rigidity incomparably greater than that of the hardest steel.  He obtained certain results and the whole world acclaimed them as an experimental verification of that cherished theory.  But in reality what he observed tended to prove just its fallacy.

"I had maintained for many years before that such a medium as supposed could not exist, and that we must rather accept the view that all space is filled with a gaseous substance.  On repeating the Hertz experiments with much improved and very powerful apparatus, I satisfied myself that what he had observed was nothing else but effects of longitudinal waves in a gaseous medium, that is to say, waves, propagated by alternate compression and expansion.  He had observed waves in the ether much of the nature of sound waves in the air.

"Up to 1896, however, I did not succeed in obtaining a positive experimental proof of the existence of such a medium.  But in that year I brought out a new form of vacuum tube capable of being charged to any desired potential, and operated it with effective pressures of about 4,000,000 volts.  I produced cathodic and other rays of transcending intensity.  The effects, according to my view, were due to minute particles of matter carrying enormous electrical charges, which, for want of a better name, I designated as matter not further decomposable.  Subsequently those particles were called electrons.

"One of the first striking observations made with my tubes was that a purplish glow for several feet around the end of the tube was formed, and I readily ascertained that it was due to the escape of the charges of the particles as soon as they passed out into the air; for it was only in a nearly perfect vacuum that these charges could be confined to them.  The coronal discharge proved that there must be a medium besides air in the space, composed of particles immeasurably smaller than those of air, as otherwise such a discharge would not be possible.  On further investigation I found that this gas was so light that a volume equal to that of the earth would weigh only about one-twentieth of a pound.

"The velocity of any sound wave depends on a certain ratio between elasticity and density, and for this ether or universal gas the ratio is 800,000,000,000 times greater than for air.  This means that the velocity of the sound waves propagated through the ether is about 300,000 times greater than that of the sound waves in air, which travel at approximately 1,085 feet a second.  Consequently the speed in ether is 900,000 x 1,085 feet, or 186,000 miles, and that is the speed of light.

"As the waves of this kind are all the more penetrative the shorter they are, I have for years urged the wireless experts to use such waves in order to get good results, but it took a long time before they settled upon this practice.

"Although the world is still skeptical as to the feasibility of my undertaking, I note that some advanced experts, at least, share my views, and I hope that before long wireless power transmission will be as common as transmission by wires."


I have to say, what Leedskalnin said about magnetic push and pull being equal on a ground level, and how a pyramid has a SQUARE of highness, and a square of LOW point, and possible conductors in between, then, we could say that Tesla's claim about 1085 feet * 900,000 gives the speed of light in miles per second. It also reveals that the speed of propogation was a function of the height, in the same way Leedskalnin tells you that magnetic polar strength is equal at the same level. Both in Tesla's patents, (such as raised capacitance antennae, multiple loaded antennae) and Edward Leedskalnins machine, you will find the same elevated terminals.

Interesting shit huh? ;-)

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm


On yet again another separate 'note' I attach a "square" diagram approximating the outlay of the magnetic streams correlating the 'relativity' between them. Since Einstein doesnt apply to Leedskalnin or Tesla's physics (mainly because the source of the magnetic stream is moving too), unlike in electrical transformers, where the poles alternate, Leedskalnins stay the same, so a moving source of this kind might be a more practical prime mover than would have otherwise been in it's place. We may be reaching the edge of my engineering knowledge now,

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on April 27, 2012, 04:42:19 PM
Orb
 Not sure I understand your drawing.What provides the movement?
 Scotty
 The reason for testing the PMH when it's loaded is to see if the feild is moving or the electrons in the windings. Ed had to have some way of picking off the induction.There is no such contraption in any photos to this date which could be used that way.He was very fond of the PMH and if it's princibly a locked electro magnet that just sends it's feilds circling around the core locked in by the PMH windings impressed upon by the U shap magnets in the wheel it would be adjustable by both speed and the starting voltage applied to the PMH to get it charged up. Then comes the figuring out how he plucked off enough induction with out draining the PMH or causing it to magnetically lock against the rotor. Maybe by it's nature (pmh) it doesnt do that any way. It doesnt take a wheel of magnets to check that.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 01, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
@all

Ed Leedskalnin Was talking about looking to the east , in his book Magnetic current . That is the first thing he mentions.

I you think about it a bit , and also keep in mind that he made spelling errors knowingly ... that should be enough to start imagining hidden message .

Quote

This writing is lined up so when you read it you look to the East,  and all the description you will read about magnetic current, it will be just as good for your electricity .
I original copy of the book is hard to come by , i wonder why.

That is the first thing ...

Now what is this about the east ...

Freemason's have the same notion of the east , even the temples are built respecting it , the is some thing here ... ??? ?


But thinking about it , brings me to what happen to a compass in a very weak field , i made a magnet out of a 4 foot piece of steel rod the field is very week in the middle , the compass is blind at this point and is 90 degrees off ... north hum east ...

Now you guys , know motors how can you make a motor with the poles facing away from the coil , basically trying to push it where there is no resistance no north no south , i am clue less but this can't be done ...

Poles should be more active even to a point of generating heat , why are they located there , even the sun is off half of the year ...

Its official this suggest that i am now clinically crazy , but beginning to think we don't know anything ...

Mark   


Reset !


Ed Leedskalnin in his book " Magnetic Current (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.scribd.com/doc/26082526/Ed-Leedskalnin-Magnetic-Current-illustrated&usg=ALkJrhgTLGRIkD3G54D43nyLeRgLv2wcig) "makes some revelations such as:

- A permanent magnet in the "real magnet" non'è the metal but the particles that make up the magnetic field and that there will slide inside.
- The particles that make up the magnetic field are "small" and penetrate anything, more easily pass through the metal that the air.
- They are constantly moving in one direction against the other and if you drive into the right channels, have perpetual motion.
- The North and South (as individual magnets) are the cosmic forces (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Leedskalnin_Magnetic_Currents:Monsieur_Bonheur&usg=ALkJrhgL_uSIrY_vnETQOV_61qdWi-qGwA) , they keep together this earth and everything on it.
- To be of any practical use must be present in large quantities.
- In a permanent magnet at times some particles can escape from the magnetic field, but others came up, to take their place.
- The current in the wires does not flow in a straight (if you observe carefully the spark caused by short circuit of two wires are we aware)



The key is to consider the magnetic poles as monopolies. Leedskalnin reveals that there is a descendant of the current monopoly of the North Western hemisphere ( positive energy ,light , hot , yellow ) which is due to the force of gravity. But he had a complete overview , which will be more fully explained by the Italian Pier Luigi Ighina (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279&gtlang=en) with his law of rhythm (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=185&gtlang=en)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 02, 2012, 09:23:19 AM
leedskalins particles are what physicists call virtual particles.  They are needed to avoid reactions at afar problems.  The magnetic field is a flow of these virtual particles into and out of charged mass.  When the charged mass moves the flow of virtual particles is altered.  In a permanent magnet the charged mass is frozen or crystalized.  This creates a uniform flow of virtual particles.  Into and out of the permanent magnet.  In an electric circuit the electrons move more or less in the same direction which causes a predictable flow of virtual particles.  Two electrons close to each other cause the vps to collide.  This causes a high density of vps and resulting pressure.  The electrons move apart from high pressure to low pressure.  In a transformer the vps transfer energy from the primary to the secondary.  When a piece of iron is magnetized the flow of virtual particles from the permanent magnet arranges the atoms of the iron so that they mimic the permanent magnet flow.  When a magnet sticks to a fridge it is the flow of vps that keeps it there.  When we take a conductor and move it through a vps flow aka magnetic field the electron vps flow reacts with the external magnetic field and the result is the electrons move.  When they cool a conductor down so the atoms arent going every which way a magnetic field forms around the conductor cause the vps flow into the electrons becomes orderly.
  Where these particles come from and where they go is unanswered making them virtual.  But they do serve the purpose of explaining electromagnetism.  The electromagnetic wave exists as a wave in a sea of virtual particles. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 02, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
leedskalins particles are what physicists call virtual particles.  They are needed to avoid reactions at afar problems.  The magnetic field is a flow of these virtual particles into and out of charged mass.  When the charged mass moves the flow of virtual particles is altered.  In a permanent magnet the charged mass is frozen or crystalized.  This creates a uniform flow of virtual particles.  Into and out of the permanent magnet.  In an electric circuit the electrons move more or less in the same direction which causes a predictable flow of virtual particles.  Two electrons close to each other cause the vps to collide.  This causes a high density of vps and resulting pressure.  The electrons move apart from high pressure to low pressure.  In a transformer the vps transfer energy from the primary to the secondary.  When a piece of iron is magnetized the flow of virtual particles from the permanent magnet arranges the atoms of the iron so that they mimic the permanent magnet flow.  When a magnet sticks to a fridge it is the flow of vps that keeps it there.  When we take a conductor and move it through a vps flow aka magnetic field the electron vps flow reacts with the external magnetic field and the result is the electrons move.  When they cool a conductor down so the atoms arent going every which way a magnetic field forms around the conductor cause the vps flow into the electrons becomes orderly.
  Where these particles come from and where they go is unanswered making them virtual.  But they do serve the purpose of explaining electromagnetism.  The electromagnetic wave exists as a wave in a sea of virtual particles.


- A permanent magnet in the "real magnet" is not the metal but the particles that make up the magnetic field and that there will slide inside.
when he talks about north and south poles as individual , does not refer to the common earth's magnetic field  !!!

Also...it is better to read up on other works of Edward Leedskalnin :

http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsWritings.html (http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsWritings.html)


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Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 02, 2012, 04:26:20 PM
  The magnetic monopole is difficult to find  BUT the electrical monopole is not.  AND since electricity and magnetism are admittedly inseperable a charged particle is a magnetic monopole as well as an electrical monopole.  A theoretical single electron observed by itself will have a magnetic field about it comprised of virtual particles flowing into it.  An isolated positron will have virtual particles flowing out of it.  Place the two together and we find that the flow into the electron is in the same direction as the flow out of the positron.   The flow of virtual particles increases in velocity between the two. This creates a low pressure area of virtual particles just like a wind current though a carburetor.  The two  real particles are pushed by the surrounding vps moving towards the low pressure area.  The two particles at some point meet in time and space.  The flow of vps now approximates what we find in a bar magnet.  Polar.  The vps flowing out of the positron taking on a curved flow into the electron.  Magnetic currents flowing and setting up lines of force like a typical dipole magnet.  Physicists predict the annihalation of positrons and electrons upon meeting.  I believe that what they are calling electrons are actually the pair of particles as described above.  This little bar magnet configuration is stable.  It carries no net electrical charge at all but does have two polar regions.  Just think about the standard configuartion of the atom.  How could a particle exist that is oppositely charged to a core material that is thousands of times larger than it.  It has gravity working against it as well as electrical charge working against it.  How long before the electron crashes and burns.  The standard answer is that the electrons inertia is such that it allows it to remain in an orbital depending on it's energy level.  Like a planet defying gravity due to it's orbital inertia.  Well if that is the case then every atom is a scource of potential energy which is stored in the electron inertia.  Just supply some ionizing radiation to untether the electron and the energy of the resultant electrical current should exceed the ionization input.  Hmmmmmmm
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 02, 2012, 05:29:09 PM
  The magnetic monopole is difficult to find  BUT the electrical monopole is not.  AND since electricity and magnetism are admittedly inseperable a charged particle is a magnetic monopole as well as an electrical monopole.  A theoretical single electron observed by itself will have a magnetic field about it comprised of virtual particles flowing into it.  An isolated positron will have virtual particles flowing out of it.  Place the two together and we find that the flow into the electron is in the same direction as the flow out of the positron.   The flow of virtual particles increases in velocity between the two. This creates a low pressure area of virtual particles just like a wind current though a carburetor.  The two  real particles are pushed by the surrounding vps moving towards the low pressure area.  The two particles at some point meet in time and space.  The flow of vps now approximates what we find in a bar magnet.  Polar.  The vps flowing out of the positron taking on a curved flow into the electron.  Magnetic currents flowing and setting up lines of force like a typical dipole magnet.  Physicists predict the annihalation of positrons and electrons upon meeting.  I believe that what they are calling electrons are actually the pair of particles as described above.  This little bar magnet configuration is stable.  It carries no net electrical charge at all but does have two polar regions.  Just think about the standard configuartion of the atom.  How could a particle exist that is oppositely charged to a core material that is thousands of times larger than it.  It has gravity working against it as well as electrical charge working against it.  How long before the electron crashes and burns.  The standard answer is that the electrons inertia is such that it allows it to remain in an orbital depending on it's energy level.  Like a planet defying gravity due to it's orbital inertia.  Well if that is the case then every atom is a scource of potential energy which is stored in the electron inertia.  Just supply some ionizing radiation to untether the electron and the energy of the resultant electrical current should exceed the ionization input.  Hmmmmmmm
 
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the magnetic monopole is difficult to find just because we live in a reflection of mono-magnetic energy (gravity)


http://peswiki.com/images/c/ce/Ed_Leedskalnin-pushpull.gif (http://peswiki.com/images/c/ce/Ed_Leedskalnin-pushpull.gif)


But the Leedskalnin 's P.M-H.  http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsPerpetualMotionHolder.html (http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsPerpetualMotionHolder.html)  proves the existence and even this device :

http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=377&gtlang=en (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=377&gtlang=en)


We live in a Magnetic Universe!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 02, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
  Tesla as noted in a post in this thread alluded to the aether being comprised of a gaseous substance.  His only question at this point was whether it was static or dynamic.  Hinting that his research was aimed at answering this question.  He also hinted that from experimentation his results were leaning towards dynamic.  I don't know if he ever published his findings along these lines of experimentation but I find Leedskalins reference to magnetic particles and Tesla's dynamic aether gas and modern day virtual particles all bear a resemblance.  Tesla's longitudinal waves could be rarification and compression of these virtual particles.  Maxwell's displacement waves truly displacing them.  Leedskalin seeing them whirl around and into a movement of charged mass.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 02, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
  Tesla as noted in a post in this thread alluded to the aether being comprised of a gaseous substance.  His only question at this point was whether it was static or dynamic.  Hinting that his research was aimed at answering this question.  He also hinted that from experimentation his results were leaning towards dynamic.  I don't know if he ever published his findings along these lines of experimentation but I find Leedskalins reference to magnetic particles and Tesla's dynamic aether gas and modern day virtual particles all bear a resemblance.  Tesla's longitudinal waves could be rarification and compression of these virtual particles.  Maxwell's displacement waves truly displacing them.  Leedskalin seeing them whirl around and into a movement of charged mass.

I think the reference is the electro radiant event discovered by Nikola Tesla , developed by Edwin Vincent Gray , Tom Bearden , Tariel Kapanadze!

(free energy from which a green light)

http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=568&gtlang=en (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=568&gtlang=en)

the point is the ether, its essence

It may be static or dynamic (as a fluid) :

As static in the air and water (as claimed by Leedskalnin, Vicktor Schauberger, W. Reich, Pier Luigi Ighina) = matter

As Dynamic ( = gravity)

but his nature is magnetic and the precision magnetic mono- (monopoles)

Please refer to the law of rhythm of Pier Luigi Ighina : http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279&gtlang=en (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279&gtlang=en)
Title: Iron Core PMH Light Generator, Cause before Effect and Electrical-Suspension
Post by: 7redorbs on May 03, 2012, 11:05:13 PM
I have attached some pictures of my latest practical researches into the materials and theories of Edward Leedskalnin. My interpretation is biased in that the "blue vertical" Ed Leedskalnin talks about is compared to the Magneto Dielectric of Nikola Tesla, and the orange radial sparks are compared to the transverse visibility of transverse propogation, wheras the blue vertical "longitudinal" magneto dielectric (L.M.D) is considered a transverse concentration of waves moving (giving of transverse light) which have faster than transverse particles exciting the aether. Or so the theory goes.

Using just north and south pole magnets I have produced spectacular light, and using the PMH, and angling the 'steel or iron load stone'  one is able to manipulate further the L.M.D vertical in other ways. Much like microwave devices have holes punched in the magnetron for exceptional magnetic field voltage generation, Edward Leedskalnin does the same. I am pretty sure when that vertical blue turns to a vertical white you are probably generating X - Rays. I could be wrong though. I expect Leedskalnin explained the small device in his book as to limit the damage to the reader.


The large device is capable of generating very large magnetic fields, if a magnet is created that is very large and very strong and has many individual magnets, then it sitting on top of a non conductor , such as wood, or a wood non conductor surrounding the cable, or a wood conductor sitting aside a spinning wheel, might thereby cause more Individual magnets to hit one part than the other, and indeed, cause reflections at about 90 degrees, a North Wood and a West Wood thus forming 2 90 degree transverse reflections (180 Degree cycle?), and creating 2 90 degree L shapes overlapping pointing intwards towards the centre of the wheel, this is an inverted square, or 2 half squares, these 2 half squares are creating by the sine wave in the transformer, as best i know it, and the wood itself.

The wood has magnets holding it together, just like the steel and the iron, how hard each works determines what you get out or in, and the combination of the conductors and the insulators, they determine how you concentrate magnetic currents, a conductor and an insulator is known as a capacitor. See MIT Capacitor demonstration on youtube, many will be surprised if inspected carefully. In fact the capacitor can be taken apart, whilst charged, and without significant injury. Allowing the wood be operator to take the conductive and non conductive parts of the capacitor and seperate them quite totally, it is interesting to note, the charge remains, between the two components, even if they are seperated to great distance, and then re-assembled elsewhere, perhaps outside of the electrical plant used to generate a large recirculating current that fed to it previously.

Such a capacitor after being charged for some minutes by a wheel such as Leedskalnin , as energy stored, that is usable might be able to charge a smaller PMH in great quantity, but over short period's of time. As the magnet's being stored and concentrated between the insulator and conductor (the capacitor) has the magnets concentrated and ready for use, and the PMH takes them and runs them against eachother at great speed.

The combination of a Wood Tripod for instance and a pmh connect to a chain wrapped around the insulator might have magnetic properties which go beyond the transverse dampening of EMF and MMF that wood exhibits as a physical material and the magnetic conductive qualities of the PMH working separately. Magnets in great quantity are capable of turning the planet earth, and creating the lightning, a large magnetic wheel as an electrical generator plant might be able to charge a capacitor up , and store those magnets for use elsewhere. With just a 12V DC battery, with extremely limited output duration, lets say 10 minutes, and a basic PMH I have broken Iron into shards, clearly this is evidence that the electrons or the magnets, whatever may be running, true or false, is capable of taking apart the physical conductive material, in the cases of insulating materials like rubber, the magnets that hold them are very loose, unlike dense conductive materials. The two being the antithesis of eachother in the same way the Longitudinal Magneto Dielectric waves and transverse magnetic waves differ, when electrical materials (conductors) are heated their resistive properties increase, and are no good for running magnetic current any more, and voltage will drop, but when those non electrical materials (insulators) are heated their resistive properties decrease, and they are good for magnetic current in the form of what we call static electricity, in any case the magnetic force that holds them together, the density was the main thing involved in determining whether they will exhibit a positive or negative resistance. In the case of metals we see a positive resistance, but in insulating materials such as plastics we see negative resistance, an important component to Nikola Tesla's Electro Static's and Magneto Dielectric System known as the Marconi Wireless set, as said before in previous posts the device exhibited transverse, light speed waves of 186,000mi/sec and longitudinal wave's of 291,000mi/sec which occured simultaneously.  You will find on the N6KPH user group, The T.M.T / Tesla Telluric Transmission build user group hosted by Eric Dollard has members suggesting that the Tesla system was capable of transmissions of purely 291,000mi/sec, of course, if this being true, meaning, that a transmission or physical matter , capable of moving at exactly 105,000miles per second faster than the speed of light of 186,000mi/sec. Please, listen carefully now if you really want to know the secrets of the Pyramid Builders, Tesla knew of it without a doubt if you read his work, what wasn't burnt anyway..

Ed built his site between 80 and 81'st longitude I believe, and he used a coil with 1500 turns on each side, making a total of 3000 turns. 186,000mi/sec the speed of light - 105,000mi/sec the differential between the speed of light, and the speed of faster than light magnets, or even the waves of Marconi Tesla and most likely Leedskalnin equals = 81,000mi/sec. If the blue vertical wave really travels faster than light in the way that Nikola Tesla claimed ("to have found a means to overcome distance and transmit regardless of it" quote endquote), then the effect, e.g. the electrical discharge of magnets, in the the correct 4 quadrant configuration, e.g. 2 coils with the running of the 2 magnetic streams, has the capability of a system of impulse switch-gate transmission whereby the cause lags the effect. This means essentially that any ampere of current that is run into it, as in the Tesla system, run into the ground, is totally resonant, the power is transfered as usual, except that there is no draw on the power supply whatsoever, absolutely no draw. This is the correct configuration of a NON PURE LC resonant circuit, and a perfect example of the INDIVIDUALISED LC resonant circuit as designed by Nikola Tesla. According to N6KPH 2 coils is sufficient actually to create the Tesla Marconi Wireless system, however 3 is usually used or recommended by the geniuses who invented it, namely Tesla. It appears Leedskalnin was using several, as well as a strange bike, with 2 BARS that run accross, one is lower than the other. Leedskalnin rightly states that the magnetic currents are of a different strength depending on height, the bike in his pictures is no accident or mistake, it has chain from the machine wrapped around it. Leedskalnin, like in the battery is expanding the bubble for the magnets, and they are lining up.

If I am right about my documentation of this phenomenon, which by now of your reading this I have witnessed countless thousands of examples, then the magnets being released at 291,000mi/sec would be arriving back to the battery before they are discharged from the battery, being effect before cause, or a lagging cause behind effect, or a leading effect before cause. This is expressed by Eric Dollard in his counterspace calculations in Wireless Power & Primary & Secondary Coils, everything is inverted and is expressed in "per" units, in Edward Leedskalnins case this has been somewhat simplified by revolutions, I believe Leedskalnin is trying to match the standing wave harmonic of the earth, the only way to do this it to properly match the ground's capacitance, there is no well known available data on this, it is a requirement of Tesla's T.M.T system, which is capable of concentrating, dividing and amplifying wave impulses much in the same way Leedskalnin created instructions and machines demonstrating his abilities.

He even used the magnetic current to write on the walls.

It looks like perpetual motion exists when the L.M.D is worked with using the M.R.A and the holes in the middle, people should take the man more seriously I think, because if perpetual motion can exist, then energy can be created in a way that scientists would consider to be "from nothing", this of course is not true, the source is the sun, in the same way the giant conductor of the sea is able to generate it's waves, by the division of 1/2 of darkness on the planet by rotation  daily, the magnetic arrangement in Ed's wheel shaping the galaxy arrangement alignment perfectly, can of course verify that to the willing initiate. These of course are old secrets of the pyramid builders, handed to the Egyptians, and recorded in their heiroglyphics. Do not bother looking for Egyptians at the Giza Plateau, they will be just as vacant from it as Egyptian Heiroglyphs, the Egyptians did not write on things they did not own, and indeed, they recorded that they did not own the knowledge that was passed to them, in their own words. From 10500BC an advanced culture turned to rubble. Society and civilisation is not progressive, and it might well be best of this technology is left to lie in waste.

I kept on thinking that men were ready for unlimited power, the ability to generate a system like the moon and the sea, using the "Y" Reich factor and what I call the Leedskalnin Iron core "C" Factor, but I do not think they are anymore, I think that people are essentially greedy and dangerous, and the PMH itself can manipulate the life force, and I wonder what is more terrifying, the world in which this is suppressed, or the world in which this is allowed to exist in the hands of the suppressors. I wonder if that might be the masonic group gained itself a rather bitter and spiteful reputation over the years, since they were prepared to go to any means to stop such knowledge entering the hands of the populace, it is interesting to note the Tiles are all there at the Pennsylvania Grand Lodge, all you have to do is go and look at how to divide those magnetic currents. Remember, the T.M.T can put an ampere into the ground, without drawing any power, because it is totally resonant, it is totally harmonic, it is totally perpetual, because the draw is 0, and because the balance and equilibrium is always flowing from the middle, when the centre of gravity is not there anymore, neither is the resistance, that is why the holes are in those high voltage magnetrons to increase the useful power in the same way Ed tried to.

Remember, there are interesting effects to yet be discovered to those pursuing this, a device capapble of 291,000mi/sec longitudinal waveform in 4 quadrants, in a trigger system (switch) system is capable of reacting before it is triggered, this obviously generates some very strange effects, both mechanically, electrically, and obviously in magnetic current' running stream's represents the highest goal of manipulation in the aether, since it is able to overcome the unit of time, and thus able to intersect at any field point, at any moment subject to it's own relativistic movement.

Relativistic though, is a bad term , like Einsteins science, because it gives one the delusive impression that the field isn't both rotating from the battery wire at significant speed, and the hand isn't moving the moving field that is effecting the alignment and the difference of the speed/acceleration of the magnetic wave. IT is not hard to test this either, just move your hand with the wire faster, you will see that it is not mechanical energy derived in this case, it is electromechanically derived energy, and you only get it because of the nature of the moving magnetic lines, and because your hand is adding to them, in a way a regular alternating transformer can't do. In the AC electrical systems of today the poles change, but in the PMH the Alternating currents do not change their poles, and because you are manually using the wire your mechanical and angular momentum changes the effectiveness of the charge, both revealing that the field must be moving, and that mechanical actions must improve the number of magnets, by the significance of the size of spark generated. The spark is pushed out by magnets.


Eric Dollard should be trusted more readily, and the idea that E=MC^2 or any of the usual scientific rubbish about relativity should represent a limit for C, when the square of it is clearly the ratio of exchange between the energy and the matter, just as Leedskalnin , Tesla and Dollard, Reich and gosh so many others have been trying to say for a long time. That is afterall why the North Wood and West Wood are deflecting the two 90 degree's to create an inverted square, because that is what you need for counterspace, and indeed in Ed's wheel north magnets rotate one way, whilst the mechanical force goes another, and south magnets rotate one way, with a mechanical force, or vice a versa. The wheel can spin only one direction, but the magnets emitted from the spinning wheel spin in their own direction, but one of the fields , likely the South or negative that Leedksalnin used to work with would be running with the wheel. Such a thing is likely the balanced power source that Leedskalnin worked to accomplishing for so long, he wrote about it all in his book, and it is no longer difficult for me to put it together how he did everything.

Mankind may continue to march towards world war 3, or their own self indulged version of events or ideas, whilst the rest of us dig up, towards the light, where we might be able to read those books that should have been written by dead men who knew too much.

Chris Carson, god rest his soul was one of them, look up the rotary electrostatic transformer, and the nazi parametric transformer, and compare the device that Dollard and Carson were harassed over, and Carson killed over, it becomes obvious it's also rapidly approaching the device that Leedskalnin describes, indeed, the nazi bell programme itself which enjoyed the highest known SS clearance of "war critical" was all about magnets in a ferro-fluidic substance running.

Interestingly enough Leedskalnin wrote his book in 1945, after fleeing Europe, he also stated that people can be reborn, and that the ancients knew all about it.

I wonder if it is a coincidence that the Nazi's and American and Russian government have held for some time now been researching secretly the possibility of using this as an information gathering source, it is not really much of a secret, it seems though, mankind is destined one day to uncover the history that will one day be so obvious. In 1914 the Tesla Marconi Wireless System with the multiple loaded flat top antennae was replaced, with the Rhombic D type antennae, thereafter the 291,000mi/sec propogations died with the removal of the multiple loaded flat top antennae, the Marconi company, all of teslas patents and working electrical apparatus were essentially dumped , destroyed or put in attics under the mnilitary rule of the Government ran R.C.A, to Tesla's disgust might I add, the government control was complete, until one day a terribly gifted engineer known as Eric Dollard on a School Exchange programme for extraordinarily gifted students, discovers it all, and uncovers practical and entirely engineer able mathematics and engineering equations and physical descriptions, this was too much for those that seem to be in charge, so the SWAT team that got the rest came back for Dollard too, and so that was the end of those 291,000mi/sec currents, and the beginning of the corporate world we've learnt to love.

So much for that,

I am working my hardest to try and replicate this and get this information out in the most complete and helpful way I can in the best way I know, please do the same as best you can and I will respect that deeply, thank you

Best,
A

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 04, 2012, 10:00:51 AM
Hi all.
@Redorbs, you quoted Tesla earlier saying " On further investigation I found that this gas was so light that a volume equal to that of the earth would weigh only about one-twentieth of a pound...."
In another article Tesla writes... " The ether, although the most tenuous of all substances, is no exception to this rule.  Its density has been first estimated by Lord Kelvin and conformably to his finding a column of one square centimeter cross section and of a length such that light, traveling at a rate of three hundred thousands kilometers per second, would require one year to traverse it, should weigh 4.8 grams..."

Now since we have a 1cm x 1cm cross section, we can use a 1cm length of the above column to make 1cm cubed......
Calculate the number of cm's cubed in the one light year long column, which he said would weigh 4.8 grams, then calculate the volume of the Earth in cm's cubed.....compare the first quote which says the gas filling the Earth would weigh 1/20th of a pound with the column one light year long and see what happens!!!
You will find that there is a BIG difference, so both of Tesla's comments regarding the weight of the universal gas cannot be correct!!!
Comparing the 2 Tesla quotes, we should find that the light year long column would fit into the volume of the Earth 93.333333 times.....should, but don't.  ??? Maybe one of them is correct but they cannot both be right....very BIG difference.

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 04, 2012, 10:10:29 AM
The main reason Ed talks about the PMH is because according to him, he was able to demonstrate that when charged the keeper could displace a magnetized needls the same way a current carrying wire can according to the right hand rule. That is, that a persistant electric current circulates in the PMH bar and can be detected using a magnetized needle.
Similar to this experiment on a micro scale...
http://phys.org/news174222765.html (http://phys.org/news174222765.html)

Notice that the physicists could not measure the current on a macro scale but Ed said he could.
I have tried but my tests were inconclusive.....maybe a true wrought iron is needed for the PMH metal instead of mild steel. True wrought iron throws out alot more of the individual magnets than mild steel does.
Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 04, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
A bit of humour......From the article about the elusive persistent current....quote "The team used nanoscale cantilevers, an entirely novel approach, to indirectly measure the current through changes in the magnetic force it produces as it flows through the ring."

Ed says " The trouble with the physicists is they use indirect and ultra-indirect methods to come to their conclusions."  ;D   :P   ;)
Maybe one day they will find a direct method like Ed did?????
Scotty.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 04, 2012, 11:34:57 AM
The main reason Ed talks about the PMH is because according to him, he was able to demonstrate that when charged the keeper could displace a magnetized needls the same way a current carrying wire can according to the right hand rule. That is, that a persistant electric current circulates in the PMH bar and can be detected using a magnetized needle.
Similar to this experiment on a micro scale...
http://phys.org/news174222765.html (http://phys.org/news174222765.html)

Notice that the physicists could not measure the current on a macro scale but Ed said he could.
I have tried but my tests were inconclusive.....maybe a true wrought iron is needed for the PMH metal instead of mild steel. True wrought iron throws out alot more of the individual magnets than mild steel does.
Scotty.

if we look a PMH and compare it to a corresponding permanent magnet (shaped like a U) I think it is clear that keeps monopolies in a coil positive (N) while the other keeps monopolies negative (S).
Breaking the PMH (side coil) there is a flash of light that is high-speed magnetic energy (the same light from the sun)
The magnetic energy is movement (of the magnetic particles from S to N) then a permanent magnet can be understood as a direction "->" an arrow.
But the permanent magnets are in balance and nothing can disturb this ...
Leedskalnin extracted monopolies using its flywheel, by positioning the arrows in place of the magnets of the flywheel, the configuration then compared with that of a circular HALBACK ARRAY ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-9IAj_YnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-9IAj_YnI)



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Title: "Einstein, Tesla & The Wizard of Oz, By Eric Dollard"
Post by: 7redorbs on May 04, 2012, 07:16:36 PM
Whilst I work out how to reply to Scotts question without embarassing myself, here is an explanation of the delusive thompson faraday electron theory, and a conjecture identical to leedskalnins from the foremost expert in the Tesla Technology that the corporate machine seems so desperate to stop folks such as us understanding.

Read of it what you will. I consider it very very valuable information indeed. Eric Dollard can help deal with this, Vertical and Horizontal Magnetic Currents and Quadrature in the technical perspective of the transverse and longitudinal waves I spoke about earlier.

Interestingly 93.3 re-occuring is about 84/90 as a fractional representation. Not reading into it or anything, just saying, start with looking at the ratio's between 186,000mi/sec and 291,000mi/sec to get an idea where the delusions of Thompson cathode ray thinking starts, to be fair, Dollard leaves very little to the imagination of the willing candidate to pursue such study.

For the rest of us though it's just another day at the office, but I know what I would rather be doing, pushing bits of metal together to get voltage back, look towards Sankofa.

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Einstein and his theories can be expressed by an animal story: As understood thru his writing Relativity as a “package of ideas” is in many ways similar to the “egg of the coo-coo bird”. The coo-coo bird builds no nest of its own, it looks for the right next among those other birds. Here found it lays its egg in the selected next of another bird. Upon hatching its chick forces the others out of the nest, over the side. Such is the growth cycle of Relativity, as given by Einstein.

In order to understand the Einsteinian reasoning certain logical relationships are taken from “Relativity”, by Albert Einstein, Random House Publisher, 1916, page 50. Here given is;

(1) Proposition (A) is Electro-Dynamic Theory, Maxwell – Lorentz.

(2) Proposition (B) is Relativistic Theory Einstein – Minkowski.

(3) There are many experiments in favor of (A), or also in favor of (B).

(4) These experiments “limit the theoretical possibilities” so that only (A) holds to the test of experience.

(5) Certain experiments conform to (A) thru an “Auxiliary Hypothesis” which is “extraneous without (B).”

Consider Einstein’s statement on the same page 50;

“In the theoretical treatment of these electrons we are faced with the difficulty that electro-dynamic theory of itself is unable to give an account of their nature.” “For since electrical masses constituting the electron would necessarily be scattered under the influence of their mutual repulsions, unless there are forces of another kind operating between them the nature of which has hitherto remained obscure to us.”

Forces of another kind, you mean the dielectric lines of force, removed from obscurity by the Faraday – Thompson concept of induction? Every electron is a motional terminus of a quantity of dielectric lines of force, these lines contracting and stretching like rubber bands, giving motion to the terminus electron. The thermionic electron contracts, pulling the electron, the cathode ray stretching, pulled by the electron. In the former case the lines of force are dissipated, in the latter case the line of force are projected, both cases the electrons assume ray like motion, with non participating lines of force filling the voids, directing the electrons. Hence, it is the electrons travel in straight lines, that is, rays.

These facts have been known from the initial invention of the “Vacuum Tube” by Sir William Crookes, leading to the extensive experimental work into atomic science by J. J. Thompson, and Nikola Tesla. It is here seen that the so-called electron is only a shadow, its apparent physical mass is only an electrical momentum. There is no rest mass to an electron. It is given here the electron is no more than a broken loose “hold fast” under the grip of the tensions within the dielectric lines of force. They are the broken ends of the split in half package of spaghetti. Obviously this reasoning is not welcome in the realm of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. Are we to believe that Einstein had no prior knowledge of the most prominent theoretical and experimental work of his time?

Continuing from “Relativity” by Albert Einstein, page 51.

“The second class of facts to which we have alluded has a reference to the question whether or not the motion of the Earth in space can be made perceptible in terrestrial experiments.”…”All attempts of this nature led to a negative result.” Einstein’s Relativity leads to the conclusion that no point of reference in the Galilean sense can actually exist, that is, all points of reference are relative to each other. This relativity is in a Lorentz transform rather that a Galilean Transform. No absolute reference possible, it is everything is relative. This is tantamount to the denial of the existence of God. Forgotten is that relativity did not find favor in its day, for this very reason, it is atheistic. Like Existentialism, or Cubism, Relativism represents a most destructive philosophical construct by which to afflict modern man. The destructive philosophical forces flowered as the “Third Reich”.

The monophasic dielectric forces developed thru the work of Nikola Tesla nullify relativistic relations. Tesla, thru a unique space-time hysteresis electrically “grounded” to a zero order Galilean coordinate system. It is also the cathode ray projector tubes utilized by Tesla in his atomic studies also nullify relativistic relations. Tesla’s remarks about “radiant matter” indicate the existence of cosmic rays of immense penetrating power moving fifty (50) times faster than the velocity of light (Le Sage particles). Here Albert Einstein is in direct contradiction with the experimental researches of Nikola Tesla, and in complete ignorance of the experimental researches of J. J. Thompson. Einstein “layed his egg” in the “nest of Faraday”. From here it is that “Theoretical Physics” is henceforth divorced from “Electrical Science”. In turn Theoretical Physics made a “Wh*re” of Maxwell, the “offspring” of Faraday.

Recently, in the “Los Angeles Times” newspaper, a series of page long editorials were given on Einstein, this as “Damage Control” over the European C.E.R.N. superluminal particle experiments. The L.A . Times is harsh, stating that C.E.R.N. was irresponsible, and must ask for permission to publish such findings! Later editorial writings express Einstein as the supreme authority, the spiritual master, etc. Well, after all, He pushed to make an E equals mc squared bomb to effect the genocide of the German People. A real holy man, don’t you think?

In epilogue, when Albert Einstein came to America, amid the accolades, and the fanfare, he was naturally introduced to T. A. Edison, the “Axle grease and timbers” all American Scientist-Inventor. The “coyote like” Edison cunningly produced one of his company intelligence tests for Einstein to complete. Einstein did not do so good on Edison’s company examination, he did not know the speed of sound! Is it possible here that Einstein is just another version of Marconi, both in defiance to Tesla. Finally, January 1, 200 A Time Magazine cover declares Albert Einstein the “Man of the Century”. We verily have been duped!

So here we stand. We have penetrated the Giant One Winged Parrot. While the multitudes have been quivering at the feet of this awesome idol, the Poodle went around to the rear of it, revealing no more than a diminutive circus operator at a small control panel. This formidable idol is no more than a giant CIRCUS PROP! Now can we go back to Kansas?

73 DE N6KPH SK

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/10372-story-eric-dollards-replications-teslas-free-energy-according-himself-4.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1631-peter-whatever-happened-eric-p-dollard-21.html
Title: The Blue Vertical LMD Leedskalnin Vortex in Pyramid configuration, Reichs 'Y'
Post by: 7redorbs on May 04, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Here are some pictures of my experiments with a Wooden block and a steel conduit in a PMH circuit. It reveals what I named possibly correctly as the Blue LMD Vertical Wave Emission, which may be being misrepresented fully by the Camera. It appears with the wooden block I have caused the LMD vertical to bend into vortex and pyramid shapes.

Because of the complexity and strangeness of these observations I am attaching the picture for the reader to decide and experiment for his or herself.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 05, 2012, 05:27:26 AM
@ Derek, the reason Ed talks about facing East is because that is how you are positioned while doing all his experiments.
EG: the copper wire is positioned E/W....the battery is South of the copper wire, pos terminal East, neg terminal West.
The experimentor is standing South of the copper wire on the West side of the battery.....which means you are standing in the S/W....facing East as you tap the neg terminal.
In the experiments with the PMH the experimentor pushes the 3" coil from West to East through the PMH prongs...the North pole prong being on the North side and the South pole prong on the South side.....so again you are standing in the S/W, facing East.  ;)
Scotty.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 05, 2012, 05:49:43 AM
@ Redorbs, could you post a drawing of your setup and the connections to the battery ect?
It's a little hard to know exactly what you are showing.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 05, 2012, 06:37:01 AM
  We need not throw out all quantom physics in explaining Leedskalin's PMH.  A low energy electron in a 1 or 2 s orbital packs the punch of 1 milliampere.  In a mole of atoms 6times 10 to the 23rd power.  Take out 3 powers.  10 to the 20th amperes in one mole of atoms.  The initial current supplied to the pmh acts to align molecules of iron so that the resulting currents about the atoms assemble in some sort of order as opposed to the disarray produced by atomic and molecular heating effects. You take Leedskalins or any permanent magnet and heat it or smack it and away goes your order returning to chaos.  You slide the keeper aside and the currents once ordered disintegrate and the prime and most important rule in electromagnetism bubbles up.  Change the magnetic field about a free charged particle and the motion of the particle will be altered. Tesla invented the ignition coil which exploits this rule to produce high voltage.  The forward current "magnetises" the core while the points dwell. This is often accomplished through a ballast load.  Then the current is abruptly halted.  The energy stored in the magnetic density of the core material over say 500 milliseconds is released in 1 millisecond. pop goes the fossil fuels.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on May 05, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
@ Derek, the reason Ed talks about facing East is because that is how you are positioned while doing all his experiments.
EG: the copper wire is positioned E/W....the battery is South of the copper wire, pos terminal East, neg terminal West.
The experimentor is standing South of the copper wire on the West side of the battery.....which means you are standing in the S/W....facing East as you tap the neg terminal.
In the experiments with the PMH the experimentor pushes the 3" coil from West to East through the PMH prongs...the North pole prong being on the North side and the South pole prong on the South side.....so again you are standing in the S/W, facing East.  ;)
Scotty.

@Scotty , I think the reason is another, Leedskalnin invites us to look to the east because of the deception we suffer!
He writes that he was lucky to build a telescope coral castle and invites astronomers to take a look ...

I mean even if you take me for a madman:
 ;D
According to the theory of "law of rhythm" by Pier Luigi Ighina, everything is still in the solar system, planets and moons property. (pace Galileo Galilei)

http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279&gtlang=en (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279&gtlang=en) (take al look)  :o

The sun with its rotation emits pure positive magnetic energy that behaves like a "glue Universal Magnetic" which it sticks around: light, heat, radiation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7yuBFQAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7yuBFQAAA) (take a look)  8)

In its progress in space, energy makes a spiral movement (there is no "straight road" between sun and earth) , but the movement of magnetic energy, coupled with the rotation to result in the final rotation and orbit any celestial body in the solar system (including Earth), because matter is an obstacle to the movement of energy that ends up joining the first and then reverse.
In the end we see the sun rise and set, we actually see the movement of the "universal magnetic glue" that in carrying with it the light.
a movement of the strobe light to which all are deceived!
 :P
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 05, 2012, 05:31:05 PM
@ Redorbs, could you post a drawing of your setup and the connections to the battery ect?
It's a little hard to know exactly what you are showing.

Hey Scotty, thanks for asking, this is a good question. It was my mistake not including a picture where the light is on and you can see the rig more readily. I have also drawn a circuit diagram, with some descriptions of what I believe may be occuring. I see this from a electro mechanical perspective, and as a musician. With the understanding of how a human heart, or pipe organ works, it becomes clear that a vibrating wire has a different order differential to a regular running current. in the same way the spark gap generates additional voltage from aetheric plasma.

Anyway, this is how I think that it works. Please find both my diagram and decsription, as well as a picture of the rig in proper illuminated conditions. I have not forgot the question you asked about the N6KPH User Group Article I quoted from, the 93.3333% order of difference, etc. Explaining it away might be a mistake, so first I am trying to correlate why Tesla might have contradicted himself, if not whether the N6KPH historic source was inaccurate somehow about the quotation given by Tesla,

I really really need help with these experiments with someone with an expensive high frame rate camera. I believe you will catch nobel prize winning stuff about that blue vertical that currently I can only speculate about. Also a camera that was electrically and thermally sensitive might make more sense.....

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on May 05, 2012, 06:57:12 PM
Orb
 Use short exposure 35mm film in a dark room but expose it longer so you can get the view of the light over a longer period of time.Smoke in the air will trace out any beam patern and expose it as well.You might be able to find someone with a fog machine they can loan you.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 06, 2012, 07:45:36 AM
Thanks for the diagram Redorbs.  :)
Here is the first Tesla quote " On further investigation I found that this gas was so light that a volume equal to that of the earth would weigh only about one-twentieth of a pound." (nikola tesla tells of new radio theories)

Here is the other quote. "The ether, although the most tenuous of all substances, is no exception to this rule.  Its density has been first estimated by Lord Kelvin and conformably to his finding a column of one square centimeter cross section and of a length such that light, traveling at a rate of three hundred thousands kilometers per second, would require one year to traverse it, should weigh 4.8 grams." (the eternal source of energy of the universe, the origin and intensity of cosmic rays)....both found here. http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm)
 
Btw....I play music as well. Here is something I made for a good friend of mine.  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4)
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: scotty1 on May 06, 2012, 08:02:36 AM
@Derek.....my explanation about facing East was only one of a few reasons as you note....
Ed also faced East when he made his measurements of the Earth's true path, using his polaris telescope and sundial ect.
The compass dial he used to mark his findings has "looking East" written on it as well.
In fact....alot of the tests in Magnetic Currents have multiple meanings and when cross referenced, lead to other information.
I've attatched a pic of Ed's compass dial that i edited. (the words on the original pic were hard to read so i put them in bold)
 
 
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 06, 2012, 08:13:10 PM
The Earth is moving at 600km/sec towards the constellation Leo, along with the rest of the galaxy and alot of other galaxies.  This motion is relative to the cosmic background radiation which is in the microwave spectrum.  (If you have a circuit and receiver that is tuned into this signal then you'll get some energy out of the vacuum.)  So if you look at just one point on Earth from a fixed position in the cmbr with your back to Leo the point on Earth would be doing a very complicated dance.  Small rotation of 1000mph and a large rotation at 60,000 mph solar rotation   and an even larger rotation at the galactic rotating mph.  Speeding up and slowing down really complicated to think about.  Einstein or someone finally threw in the towel and said that motion only exists relative to the observer.  The observers motrion is irrelavent.  This is really counterproductive.  Everything we see is an abberation.  Granted 600km/sec is not even close to 300,000 km/sec but it is way faster than our fastest vehicles.  Can this motion be exploited?  Say we have a coil of wire with an attached voltmeter or led.  This coil of wire is actually moving 600km/sec.  We know the coil is not going to generate any voltage unless the magnetic field it passes through is changing perpendicular to the coils motion.  So we have a set of permanent magnets but they are also moving 6ookm/sec.  What if we can somehow make the permanent magnets stay put.  This would require that we move the magnets relative to the wire and moving them would require energy to overcome the inertia of the permanent magnets mass. Hmmm.  What would happen if we create a magnetic field  disruption that appears to move from our observation post but in reality stays fixed as our coil moves through it.  Our coil would have to move perpendicular to the produced magnetic field.  The magnetic field would have to move away from the constellation Leo at 600km/sec and the coil aligned to intersect this "moving" magnetic field.  No small task.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 06, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
The Earth is moving at 600km/sec towards the constellation Leo, along with the rest of the galaxy and alot of other galaxies.  This motion is relative to the cosmic background radiation which is in the microwave spectrum.  (If you have a circuit and receiver that is tuned into this signal then you'll get some energy out of the vacuum.)  So if you look at just one point on Earth from a fixed position in the cmbr with your back to Leo the point on Earth would be doing a very complicated dance.  Small rotation of 1000mph and a large rotation at 60,000 mph solar rotation   and an even larger rotation at the galactic rotating mph.  Speeding up and slowing down really complicated to think about.  Einstein or someone finally threw in the towel and said that motion only exists relative to the observer.  The observers motrion is irrelavent.  This is really counterproductive.  Everything we see is an abberation.  Granted 600km/sec is not even close to 300,000 km/sec but it is way faster than our fastest vehicles.  Can this motion be exploited?  Say we have a coil of wire with an attached voltmeter or led.  This coil of wire is actually moving 600km/sec.  We know the coil is not going to generate any voltage unless the magnetic field it passes through is changing perpendicular to the coils motion.  So we have a set of permanent magnets but they are also moving 6ookm/sec.  What if we can somehow make the permanent magnets stay put.  This would require that we move the magnets relative to the wire and moving them would require energy to overcome the inertia of the permanent magnets mass. Hmmm.  What would happen if we create a magnetic field  disruption that appears to move from our observation post but in reality stays fixed as our coil moves through it.  Our coil would have to move perpendicular to the produced magnetic field.  The magnetic field would have to move away from the constellation Leo at 600km/sec and the coil aligned to intersect this "moving" magnetic field.  No small task.
I really enjoyed reading this. The sun put's out magnets, it's true, the sun is moving, it's true. So, the sun is a moving source, and the magnets that the sun puts out are moving in and out at their own speed(s) too. Any given individual magnet leaving the sun is equal to it's emission speed, added to the mechanical movement of the "Sun" , or "Armature" if you prefer.

The earth absorbs the magnets coming from the Sun, per time, that is to say, the Earth is charged over time by the magnets hitting it. The sun's new magnet emisions, and their sources mechanical speed added to their individual magnet emission speed is added to the earth's current individual magnets, per time. Fluctuations in the sun's emissions, or objects passing inbetween the sun and the earth, that might make it in a shadow, at any given moment will cause more or less individual magnets to reach the magnet we call earth. More magnets means that the earth is reflecting more magnets, and absorbing more magnets, and losing more magnets, simultaneously. The Sun is akin to a north and south pole transformer, depending on the time of day. IF you can overcome the transient of time via energy storage making the two compatible is not difficult. The real question is what is heat, but the presence of no obstacles between a heat source and a subject, in this case it is the sun and the earth, but it is equally true with electricity and wire. It is interesting to note that the presence of no obstacles between the sun and the earth generates the absence of shadow, whereas the presence of obstacles in an electrical current creates the presence of light. I think this requires more study.

Afterall, I hope I have clearly established that all of the currents that are perpetually generated by the giant magnetic molten iron core we call earth, usually with a hole in the middle, and, that it is the Vertical position of the Sun that generates heat on any one half of that circle. the proof is that where there was heat, there was magnets, but the most important understanding is that where there is magnets there is heat, the Sun puts out more magnets that most men can imagine, and, also, heats the earth. This confirms again, that where you find heat you will find an abundance of magnets. I believe this to exist in the principle of the heating of any element material to exist, whereby heating can cause a positive or negative contraction or expansion akin to a counter-clockwise rotation vs a clockwise rotation, or rather, north and south poles, pushing and pulling forces. It is these forces that come from within the material, or mass, when the mass no longer holds together. I believe I can unnecssarilly complicate things, so for those that find this hard I will make it simpler for you.

The sun makes half the earth hot and the other half colder than that, because the concentration of magnets changes throughout the day, the induction changes, and that is why Ed told you that there will be a change in the voltage and current between his foot and his tongue depending on the time of day, Ed may not have had an interest in biology, but I do, the veins and arteries in the blood are golden ratio logarithmic in nature (look at a leaf and how it resembles the aerial Television / Radio Frequency Antennae, I do not believe this can be a coincidence any more than the shape a tree groes above and below the ground, nor how above ground it seeks light through aether via magnets, and below ground it seeks the water through the earth, via magnets, I believe this is the basis of the old alchemical elemental system, to which I do not have as much expertise as the Mason Edward Leedskalnin. I can tell you that the masonic hammer shows that MECHANICAL energy is derived into electrical energy, and electrical energy is derived into other energies, some of which Leedskalnin and Tesla most certainly were experimenting with, given the spark gap and primary secondary is enough to generate Tesla's Longitudinal magneto dielectric waves, also known as the Marconi Wireless System.

Furthermore, the ocean and it's movement, has a heat current and a mechanical current (existing wave of magnets field and earth field), and it has the moon and any other planet. Engineers at Radio Corporation America, the government military people that stole away Marconi in 1914, knew all about the problem of inductance from traversing cosmic objects, and indeed the effect of local magnetic fields such as planets, they designed a multitude of equipment, much of which is still in use, to control overloading that might result from long transmission lines receiving extra currents from 'solar radiation'.

In truth this solar radiation must be magnetic in nature, like Radium and Uranium is at it's atomic centre's, because not only was there heat like there was magnets before, but, there was induced voltage, and electrical energy in that long transmission line wire, so, you see, we know for sure whatever is coming in the wire and putting that extra power that R.C.A and Tesla Marconi as well as C.P.Steinmetz and the designers of the telegraphy systems, and equations of mechanical engineering operation, such as Heaviside's equations, you see, they actually prove that the force is there, that it is documented, exists, is magnetic in nature, and is certainly still today making those so-called electrons appear in great numbers, at the end's of transmission line capacitances, of great harmonic length, and as a result purely from the magnetic influence of the Sun, is able to create those so called 'electrons' from just magnets and metal alone. This proves that not only are magnets at the base of things, but that the inheritors of Tesla Marconi knew all about it, because they had to (This cosmic induction is a serious issue that has been worked on for 100's of years!), see the hundreds of Anomalous Voltages and references in my work on conspiracy.co or alternatively read Eric Dollards books, they have the references amany to such anomalous transformers blowing up at the power station, some are due to magnetic harmonic effects of the earth (like with AC power line transmission increasing with voltage instead of decreasing as electricians are taught today), note that the military use Maxwell V1, and Einstein uses Maxwell V2. V2 doesn't go above second order derivatives, the sun, the moon, the ocean, and their specific phase relationships though, all of them do, and that is why they have the power of perpetual motion, provided that the angular relationship supports equilibrium in the gallilean frame of reference, motion is most certainly unceasing, in fact, it appears the bubble expanding of the universe, is doing something that we consider impossible for a battery's electrochemical boundaries to do, expand infinitely, and accelerating , this proves that the force creating the universe is like a battery, and thus is like a magnetic current, along with everything else in this universe. As long as there is darkness cold, and light, heat, there will always be movement, and magnets, or their absence. I challenge anyone to break this rule,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LseEv0MZiOY

Thank you so much for your post sparks, it has inspired me,  you too Mr. Scotty, I hope you enjoy my video and my post.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 06, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
I really like the guitar man. I'm jealous, I was thinking about creating a piano box myself, not your usual instrument though... oscillating current instrument, impulse based ;-)

It is quite simply really, if each note has a specific energy output (per note), then compressing many notes , fitting progressively more impulses per second (and thus more energy per second), the T.M.T works this way, and a mechanical means of increasing the step speed of the note (or even an electronic means for a speaker based self referencing wave), the trigger speed must increase to a resolution infinitely small asymptotically, no easy feat. A self referencing wave might do it, (whereby the pulses each second effect the duration of the next, and so on),


Best,
a
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 08, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
I dont want to sound gunhoe, but given I am getting 1000-2000V minimum impulses from a 3.00V (2X AA) and a single PMH, I'm thinking 5 PMH x 24 is a lot of voltage if you put it in a capacitor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qEErJa_6w see attached video


Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 09, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
Everyone went quiet, so here is something to get you all excited again.

You will have never have thought this before. Look towards Sankofa, and please, this sankofa discovery, for once, should be credit to me. :) Go check what I said it means in previous posts.

It's surprising. Anyway, recently my site has been under DDOS attack and brute force attempts, and recently we had our ads pulled down because our content is a violation "Unacceptable Site content", you guys have to wonder if there is any intention to make this stuff public.

My point in hand, whatever happened to that patent for it anyway that Leedskalnin spoke about in his book Magnetic Current. Damnit, It's frustrating, right? We need to stick together . I dunno :( I just know this is really important

We have musicians here, so, they will understand this post was about the origins of music, and the base of all sound.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on May 12, 2012, 01:27:37 AM
Hi mine is sideways ...

I can do better ;) but that is not to say I didn't love your post ;)

I can pretty much guarantee my book is going to be quite interesting. I hope people show more interest... this is so important. I share all I have... out of the kindness of my heart, for the sins of man. reallly, I mean it. I might not be that smart, but I know more than some smarter people for sure about some of this, *shrug :)

Peace and respect guys, keep it up


PS: as you can see ladies and gentleman the picture I have below is a perfect representation of Ed's experiments in his book magnetic current page 1 - 14. Given ed's claim about the Pyramid Builders, and the age of this artwork in the picture, I hope people realise what I'm saying about Sankofa and the lost knowledge of Solomon, and that which predates him, deserves much more attention than it is being given, I know, it's a fantastic discovery, even the 22.5 degrees is there, there is a lot more than just his experiments in this logo. It really is a holy grail of EDL's work.

Best,
A
Title: Today I woke up knowing exactly how Edward Leedskalnins flywheel works!I did it!
Post by: 7redorbs on May 12, 2012, 11:49:28 AM
Many of you are still wondering how Edward LEedskalnins flywheel works. Many are wondering why the magnets are arranged in NN SS triangular radial configuration.

The only way to positively understand this. Is to look at the basic PMH from the earlier experiments of Leedskalnin.

Leedskalnin explains that if you put around your coil and iron core, a steel frame, you get half more of the magnets than you usually would. He says that better yet, if you connect the outer steel frame to the inner iron core, then, no magnets will be lost whatsoever, and any magnets that are lost are replaced either by the individual magnets in the air , or in the magnetic field of the earth.

Edward Leedskalnin said in a low key way, that if the coil is North, then the outer steel coil will be South pole, and if the coil is South, then the outer steel will be North.

In this way, the instructions Ed have given is two generate, not one, but 2 alternating currents that are equal and opposite to each-other, he says balance is very important and here is why:

As the South magnets spin towards the iron core of a PMH, they put a NORTH field into the outer steel, causing a South Field to form in the inner iron core, and, as the flywheel's south magnet moves away from the PMH, they put a South field into the outer steel, causing a North field to form in the inner iron core.

Because the PMH A) does not lose magnets and B) The frame is connected to it's iron core the magnets do not any more follow a standard elecrtical circuit's stream, and the same eddy curents that were present, I do not think they are present anymore, because of this there will be very low losses, and much reduced resistance.

Furthermore, as the spinning magnet wheel in V NN SS configuration puts energy into a PMH, The PMH has with the steel outer frame connected to the iron core, alternates 4 times for every PASS of a single pole, instead of the usual two that Edward Leedskalnin taught.

This is because you have added an additional circuit to the PMH Steel and iron. Combined with this the reasoning of North directly following North on a magnetic wheel is, that when North is moving away there is a South pole in the outer steel, and a north pole in the inner core, and so, when the steel changes, then the iron must too, and there is a time differential dx/dt that must be calculated. This is where 4 quadrant theory, quaternions and Eric Dollards excellent work on hysteresis comes in. Much like the 7 modes of a musical system of Ancient Church modes of Mixolydian, Ionian, Phrygian, Lydian, Aeolian, Loerian, and Dorian, and the standing wave of a single note n / 2.

By connecting the extra two wires, like Ed said in the PMH, and linking that outer steel to the inner iron, with the wire coil inbetween them, this makes a perfect magnet, and transformer, because the outside always holds north pole, and the inside always holds the opposite pole. Timing is important, and the Arrangement of the outer V North South poles of the flywheel:


because as North magnet on flywheel moves away, outer steel has south magnet, attracting the next North, and as North moves closer, The south pole magnets go in the outer steel first, which causes a North pole induced into the inner iron, and as the next 2 South Pole's of the magnetic wheel approaches in turn, they will make a the steel outside of the PMH a North pole, and as each South pole moves away, the steel outside of the PMH becomes South, Like poles attract, unlike poles push away.

This is what Edward Leedskalnin meant by the PMH had possession of perpetual power, but not unless you make use of the perpetual motion held by the holder, the found way that was beyond the second order differential, as discussed by Heaviside, Tesla, and Dollard & Steinmetz (more than 2 simultaneously variant transients). I believe this is equivocal to "squaring the circle" or taking the square root of -1 and producing electricity with it.

In any case, you now know why Ed teaches to connect pmh steel outer , to iron inner, and have the coil in the middle, that way you get 2 poles instead of 1 for each Pole the wire can make, that way you get twice as much magnets in your transformer, that way no magnets are wasted, and that way you will get 4 poles in your metals, from the 2 in the battery.


And 4 poles is the premise to 4 quadrant quadrature, that is the 90 degree relationship right there, and how those poles are 'chasing' eachother, is of the critical point to Leedskalnins work.

So as you can see, I have now shared with you how his device works. May we liberate ourselves from the terror of the world we have today. May good men walk free and do good unto themselves, may we prosper from the secrets of the Pyramid Builders, less we destroy ourselves again.

I reveal to you the lost history of Sankoa, Africa, Israel , and Solomon. I reveal the revelation of a free energy future. I reveal that the planets, and their individual magnets, they make all of the energy in the sea.

Might I reveal, that it was as delusive today, as it was yesterday (as Tesla rightly said), to attempt to gain wind or water energy from the sea or the sky, is madness, when it's real source, is the planets in outer space and the cosmos, and indeed, the sun.

This is the difference between the pyramid builders legacy, what they left to the Egyptian's, and what we practice today.

Do not miss this important message, read it again. I promise you will not be disapointed, I have not only shared the law of perpetual motion. I have shared how to turn it into perpetual power, at great danger to my personal self.

You need courage people, oh and in dollards quadrature, there is Lead time which I believe is to the 3 (clock power), there is opposing force (6 to the clock power), and there is Lagging Force Time ( which is to the 9 clock power), and is equal to the NN SS design of Ed's wheel coupled with the 4 quadrant (4 pole) inverter AC transformer PMH that ed describes.

In this way we find a way to generate complex AC currents, based on time differential, and the antithesis of other alternating poles and movements, how Tesla's magneto dielectric impulse technology worked, and how the Universe itself works electrically.

Make no mistake I share everything I know,

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Doug1 on May 13, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Thank you that is worth a build. While i was reading it I had a thought that a magnet motor could also be produced with this methode from a typical IC engine.Soon as my son finishes blowing up the engine on our ridding mower it will become the doner for that. I was already searching for good soft iron rod stock to build a PMH. Ed mentioned using a brass or bronze bobin for the winding but those will be harder to get hold of then the rod stock. I have only copper to work with so do you think there is any critical difference in those materials for the bobins on the PMH. Funds are limited right now,Im building a monster size brick oven for cooking.Two tons of fire brick for the oven linner is sucking my wallet dry.
Title: Leedskanin fuelless generator
Post by: T-1000 on June 09, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
Hello,

I am looking for replicators who can assemble E. Leedskalnin flywheel and PMH in a way he did. Please let me know if anyone is willing to do hard work :)

I think I finally did put puzzle pieces together on E. Leedskalnin generator and we had proof of his fuelless generator almost for 70 years..

So instructions to remake one should be as following:

1) The flywheel is made from same pole magnets what are squizzed together by force to make sharp magnetic poles. Because of that we do not have strong magnetic field in then edges on the magnets. The strongest point is only in place where two same poles are did put together. With resonant spinning they make maximum electricity in PMH and cause no drag. Bye bye Lenz law if I am correct... :)
2) The 3 poles are fit in depth of PMH.
3) The PMH is inside of metal core (the box in photo). That amplifies magnetic currents (in E. Leedskalnin book).
4) The spark gap is used to take power out of high voltage from PMH on peaks only when magnets are approached already. NO MORE OTHER CONNECTIONS what are killing free oscillation!
Title: Re: Leedskanin fuelless generator
Post by: 7redorbs on June 09, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
Hello,

I am looking for replicators who can assemble E. Leedskalnin flywheel and PMH in a way he did. Please let me know if anyone is willing to do hard work :)

I think I finally did put puzzle pieces together on E. Leedskalnin generator and we had proof of his fuelless generator almost for 70 years..

So instructions to remake one should be as following:

1) The flywheel is made from same pole magnets what are squizzed together by force to make sharp magnetic poles. Because of that we do not have strong magnetic field in then edges on the magnets. The strongest point is only in place where two same poles are did put together. With resonant spinning they make maximum electricity in PMH and cause no drag. Bye bye Lenz law if I am correct... :)
2) The 3 poles are fit in depth of PMH.
3) The PMH is inside of metal core (the box in photo). That amplifies magnetic currents (in E. Leedskalnin book).
4) The spark gap is used to take power out of high voltage from PMH on peaks only when magnets are approached already. NO MORE OTHER CONNECTIONS what are killing free oscillation!

You sir deserve to be congratulated.

Here is my small version doing what your claiming, I'm draining my battery because I have no outer steel casing on the PMH. The wheel is a variant. Just like you said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwXcIoTfoM

WELL DONE. I had concluded that there is a spark gap at 90 to the spinning wheel magnetic longitudinal torsion field too. "the blue vertical longitudinal component" it is also curved. and more than a single line...

Again, you should be congratulated. Well done.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 09, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
The forum is bugging again..

The copy of photo is in http://imgbin.org/images/8388.png
The analysis of flywheel is in http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/

Hopefuly that will not be lost... The copy  of this information is held by Russian FE community members too.


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: penno64 on June 10, 2012, 12:12:09 AM
Hi 7,
 
Would you please explain more regarding the revelation?
 
Kindest Regards, Penno
 
p.s. I wish you would at least show in light what you last video is about
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 10, 2012, 01:45:15 AM
Hi 7,
 
Would you please explain more regarding the revelation?
 
Kindest Regards, Penno
 
p.s. I wish you would at least show in light what you last video is about

You are right. I am happy to accomodate that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UowavvqUti4


1. You should Look for the Longitudinal Blue Vertical
2. Look for the 90 degrees Leedskalnin Relationship
3. Study 4 Quadrant Theory of Eric Dollard and Maxwell Quaternions (before they were modified by Heaviside)
4. Observe Mechanical - Oscillating Current in Transformer that is A.C kind.
5. Observe that the electrical supply is not providing electrons, it is providing magnets, and that is why the device oscillates back and fro.
6. Observe there is mechanical movement from the `electricity` alone, but no electrons are in sight.
7. Observe that the transformer is in motion whilst the J rod is in motion, at the same moment that the magnetic current (what you might be calling 1 way electrons) from the battery is in motion. Here we see that something is going 2 ways, it is not resistance, it is the magnetic field pushing and pulling. Observe that this is a 3rd order differential, and requires Quaternion Theory and Maxwell I to resolve.
8. Observe that when there is 3 varying relationships, (3rd order differential) with 3 varying velocities, Electricity can create solid state-movement.
9. Notice that the "Electromagnet" I have, alternates, this means that between (or rather, in the middle of) each cycle it has 0 mass in the same way that the electricity pylons do to decrease the voltage losses.
10. Notice that when the mass is 0, (between alternations) the voltages are higher, and that is why A.C is used for long distance, by artificially reducing the mass of the wire, via impulses and thus decreasing the energy that can be lost ;-)
11. Here the battery is providing DC, and the air and magnets in/from spark to create AC impulse running currents.
12. As you can see it is fairly elementary the statements I make, and they can be verified for yourself, without the need to criticise the hard work I have made.
13. If you feel that you can give a better explanation than in my video you can go below and see how it works for yourself. Also feel free to make a comment.


Thank you and good day :)

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: penno64 on June 10, 2012, 03:19:03 AM
Hi 7,
 
Sorry if you misunderstood my post.
 
I am intrigued by your experiments and want to know more.
 
I merely wished to see the device you were demontrating.
 
Again, apololiges if I offended.
 
Regards, Penno
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 10, 2012, 04:01:04 AM
Hi 7,
 
Sorry if you misunderstood my post.
 
I am intrigued by your experiments and want to know more.
 
I merely wished to see the device you were demontrating.
 
Again, apololiges if I offended.
 
Regards, Penno
.
Hey Buddy ;)

I am not offended. I carbon copied the youtube description in my post. I will post more about the device for you shortly, but alas it is 3am and I must sleep now. I hope this satisfies your curiosity and I am all along delighted that people do show an interest in this work. Delighted. Not offended ;-)

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 10, 2012, 07:46:31 PM
     I don't know if this post belongs here but I will offer my lifelong experience with electric motors to help explain Ed's machine.  In order to convert electrical energy to magnetic energy you need to redistribute electrical charge.  The magnetic field is comprised of energised particles that respond to and are responsible for charge.  If you move a charged body like say an electron the particles that create the charge of the electron change their path.  This change in path is described as the propogation of a magnetic field.  An electrical current is not the movement of charged particles as some would have you believe.  Electrical current flows from anyplace that has different charge density.  In a permanent magnet the atoms comprising the magnet are caused to take on a crystallized form under the influence of an electrical current.  The metals are caused to be molten and exposed to current generated by an external scource.  As the metals are cooled they form a crystal that "remembers" the external current.  The atomic lattice is so disposed that the charged matter creates a predictable magnetic flow into and out of the field of the magnet.  Let me call these virtual particles magnetons.  A positively charged body (like a proton) has it's positive charge assigned to it because the space it occupies has less charge density than the electron's charge density.  This creates a constant current between the electron (which is now identified as being smeared in the atomic model not a little planet going about the neucleus) and the proton.  If there was no energy input from somewhere a hydrogen ion could not exist.  The electron atmosphere would quickly deplete itself of all charge anistrophy and the proton would become a neutron.  Now I have to refer to particle physics because it seems the "most validated" scientific theory in practice now.  The magnetons flow from a spot of higher charge concentration to one of a lower one.  The electron which has more charge density gives up these magnetons.  Monatomic hydrogen is the most reactive atom known to man.  As the monatomic hydrogen atom proton deplete's it's electron of charge it becomes a neutron unless it can reach magnetic equilibrium with an external field.
In any electric field there are magnetons being transferred from a point or plane or 3dimensional sector of high charge to a field of low charge.  They continually replenish the electron field at a rate that allows the electron to exist.  If we move the matter into which they are flowing in around and all about then a magnetic field arises.  In an electric motor we move electrons.  The magnetron current supporting the electron relativity then follows the movement of the charged matter.  Ed knows this.  He has been studying magnetism.  Taking batteries and watching cables jump as he moves massive amounts of electrons through the cables.  He studies which way they tend to jump in relationship to the ambient magnetic field of the Earth. He realizes that the magnetic field is a flow of something.  Why bother moving electrons in a wire why not just send magnetic shock waves down a steel cable.  If I want or need an electrical device to work distant from my magnetic flux generator I will transmit magnetic waves through the mass of the cable and just wrap a little copper wire around the end of the cable and get my electricity.  In an unloaded power transformer current is minimal.  The impedance of the primary is such that little current passes from line to line. When current is drawn from the secondary the primary is no longer choked. It's impedance drops and current flows through the line circuit.  Now imagine you take the core of that transformer and run it down into your house instead of a copper wire you have one steel wire.  You wrap some heavy wire around this steel cable.  When you draw current it does not affect the primary impedance at all.  Because it took time for the magnetic field flux change to be transmitted to your end of the transformer.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 10, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
     I don't know if this post belongs here but I will offer my lifelong experience with electric motors to help explain Ed's machine.

In order to understand what Ed was doing with generator, there is much simpler answer.

You need to combine few effects into one. Ed's same pole magnets tied together for sharp magnetic field in junction only and almost no field around http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/ (http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/) + PMH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk) with high voltage iron windings in generator mode what cause this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE) (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs) ) + core around coil not coil around core www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk) (and in Ed's photo I showed earler)  + spark gap for shorting generator coil to load on peaks only (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s) )

And question still remains: why conventional generators are still tied to 50/60Hz and have current generating coils not high voltage generating coils..? It is wrong from day one...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 11, 2012, 02:34:13 AM
In order to understand what Ed was doing with generator, there is much simpler answer.

You need to combine few effects into one. Ed's same pole magnets tied together for sharp magnetic field in junction only and almost no field around http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/ (http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/) + PMH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk) with high voltage iron windings in generator mode what cause this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE) (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs) ) + core around coil not coil around core www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk) (and in Ed's photo I showed earler)  + spark gap for shorting generator coil to load on peaks only (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s) )

And question still remains: why conventional generators are still tied to 50/60Hz and have current generating coils not high voltage generating coils..? It is wrong from day one...

   The insulation systems inside high voltage alternators limit the amount of voltage they can produce.  This voltage is then transformed into high voltage for transmission.  High frequency ac has tremendous power losses in transmission due to the capacity of the lines.  Even at 60hz the lines selfinduction losses are considerable.  As you noted we need the voltage and not the current.  Tesla designed a distribution system while Westinghouse and Edison were waging the war of currents.  This entailed a spark gap, two transmission lines, motors and a local capacitor (if needed)  The whole transmission network represented a tuned resonant circuit.  When the spark gap fired, voltage from the scource flows unimpeded to the capcitor.  Meanwhile the motor generators comprising the inductance needed in a resonant circuit impede any current flow from the gap.  The transmission line whether it is a thousand miles long or a mile long is carrying no electronic current.  The capacitor is being step charged with DC high voltage impulses.  O to 20,000 volts per spark gap fire.  In the beginning his system had a return wire to the line capacitor.  After that he got rid of that wire and took the other side of the system capacitor and tied it to ground.  This left a one wire transmission line transmitting pure voltage to charge a capacitor thousands of miles away.  The inductive elements were shown as motors.  The motors then drove conventional alternators or generators or later took on the form of motionless dc generators and alternators.  Lighting was directly tied to the high voltage. Gas filled bulbs?  Capacitors were real expensive.  Miles of copper wire in a distribution system was a significant amount of capacitance.  If this wasnt in the local network then he needed a capacitor to store thousands of horsepower.  He made one and it is his bifilar wound pancake coil.  This is a capacitor rated at millions of volts and farads only limited by the mass of the coil.  No one bought into it.  They were busy making the present day grid.
The other side of his capacitor tied to ground because it represents a significant scource of charge. He once rated it in mfd and stated that the entire globe acted like a solid copper ball the size of a golf ball in as much as how much electrical capacity it had.  Not it's potential to transfer charge just the amount of charge you would need to fill it up to full capacity.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Magluvin on June 11, 2012, 03:57:19 AM
Hey Sparks  ;]

You seem so well read in Tesla. I have a question.

What do you believe is the most important discovery Tesla had found, in the book Colorado Springs Notes.

Thanks for that post ;]

Mags
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 11, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
N. Tesla knew about problems with long transmission lines so he designed wireless one. But we still not use that today.

And self running generators are always on high frequency and based on Lenz force redirection to do rotor push for second cycle in useful way. This is opposed to what engineers are fighting when designing generators and motors for hundred years...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on June 11, 2012, 06:21:36 PM
How is this power scheme any different than 60hz mains that would help him cut coral blocks and levitate them?
Im still seeing the standard  magnetic field cutting a coil.
The box is held down which I assume is to keep it from jumping {high voltage?}. Also the chain seems to be held by a bolt connected to the box. If a Pmh is inside the box then its smaller than the one he shows to build and that means smaller coils also.  The size of the magnetic field covers the entire area of the box. If it is a Pmh coil  producing voltage/amps to the chain and to the Pmh that  may sit on top of the tripod, then the Pmh/coil on top of the tripod may have a larger voltage coil. Seeing how there is no visible return on the chain it may be connected to one coil of the Pmh on the tripod , with the other going out to another chain being the output. If so is this chain a monopole? I know bombarding a magnet with an extremely high voltage magnetic field will cause it to explode. Thats a lot of pressure.  An iron chain could store a lot more pressure than a mere small magnet.
Fwiw!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 13, 2012, 01:04:15 AM
How is this power scheme any different than 60hz mains that would help him cut coral blocks and levitate them?
Im still seeing the standard  magnetic field cutting a coil.
The box is held down which I assume is to keep it from jumping {high voltage?}.

The resonant frequency of matter is definately not that low. :) If you can image Earth as big magnet and from basic principles the same poles pull each other apart while opposite attract, all the need just to make these conditions on atomic level in matter somehow.

In regards of box on tripod it definately was taking high voltage from spark gap in PMH near wheel and if you remember all those Leyden jars (bottles with wires) in Ed's workshop, it might be very possible he had same approach as N. Tesla had with spark gaps and capacitors...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 13, 2012, 03:38:06 AM
The resonant frequency of matter is definately not that low. :) If you can image Earth as big magnet and from basic principles the same poles pull each other apart while opposite attract, all the need just to make these conditions on atomic level in matter somehow.

In regards of box on tripod it definately was taking high voltage from spark gap in PMH near wheel and if you remember all those Leyden jars (bottles with wires) in Ed's workshop, it might be very possible he had same approach as N. Tesla had with spark gaps and capacitors...

I am positive that a spark gap or PMH provided arc gap division existed inline with the wheel at 90 degree's to it.

I have to say the man who posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk this video should be thanked greatly. At last! someone has built the PMH coil with the steel outer casing.

I have not tried AC with my coil yet. Only D.C. I also cannot afford the steel or the flywheel, but they are coming soon. I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who are contributing to this topic. I wish you could see the huge smile on my face right now.

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 13, 2012, 03:45:14 AM
N. Tesla knew about problems with long transmission lines so he designed wireless one. But we still not use that today.

And self running generators are always on high frequency and based on Lenz force redirection to do rotor push for second cycle in useful way. This is opposed to what engineers are fighting when designing generators and motors for hundred years...

I never dreamed I would hear someone in my life time quote the operation of the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter as accurately as Eric Dollard.

I am seriously impressed by your comments right about now. The keyword I do believe you were looking for was recirculation.

Look at the Marconi Wireless System using the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae, note longitudinal wave propagations of 291,000mi/sec and transverse wave propogations of 186,000mi/sec. Longitudinal propagations are infinitely flat (vertical per space time) wheras transverse are L shaped, or sinusoidal (horizontal + vertical e.g. space over time). The MLTA was capable of immense recirculating currents, much like the T.M.T was capable of generating with it's antennae.

Guess what , Leedskalnin has antennaes. I reckon it's cause the magnetic field have a different amplitude (strength) at different heights. Leedskalnin said batteries were unbalanced too, because of the way the annode and cathode connections were made. Perhaps by changing the height of one of the recirculating, rotating magnetic currents/fields he found a way to balance it without changing the battery design. Though, I doubt it.

That is probably why he speaks about trying glass in his book magnetic current. I think we need to design an energy storage device like Tesla's vacuum tube's and/or capacitors. Just like the ones that you rightly point to in ed's workshop. Bottle with wire wrapped around it, presumably with a dielectric substance and metal inside or around the bottle also. It is worth experimenting with. energy storage, is the key, as you have all seen. Storing up enough energy over time, and recirculating it n the right channels, it surely has the means of perpetual power. The problem for me is the 3rd order differentials, and getting all of the parts I need for the large flywheel.

Been talking to a guy called mikefromspace on youtube, he has some good stuff too.

Regarding what you said about the Tesla krap, here is something I typed just hours ago that you will enjoy, I guarantee. It is highly recommended for anyone working with this technology.

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/12764-post-project-camelot-definitive-energy-conspiracy-tap-tap-off-tapper.html

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 13, 2012, 04:18:41 AM
Hey Sparks  ;]

You seem so well read in Tesla. I have a question.

What do you believe is the most important discovery Tesla had found, in the book Colorado Springs Notes.

Thanks for that post ;]

Mags

    I know the one that excited him the most was the standing waves existing in the ground.  He was all about developing wireless communications at this point.  Here was the solution for getting information to any point on the globe.  He did not want to mess with the oscillator frequency or amplitude to transmit the information. Damn he was spending months to get it pumped to maximum efficiency at one frequency.  How the heck to get a feeble microphone output into an oscillator rated in the thousands of horesepower. 
  The solution appeared that july 4th 1899.Stationary wave field in the Earth.  I think these particular ground waves were around  68 khz carrying low frequency information with no modification of the oscilllator. Tesla never understood what he had discovered back in New York.  He saw the voltage multiplier effect and ran with it.  He knew any transfer of energy efficiently would have to get rid of current.  When he saw coronal effects coming off objects the voltage multiplier was born.  He maximized the effect and created the Tesla transformer and spent many years developing the magnifying transmitter.  I know why the MT lost it's funding and later got torn down by the US military. It has nothing to do with sequestering scientific data or JP Morgan or all the rest of that krap and everything to do with public safety concerns.  Ed makes a beautiful little theme park he hopes children enjoy.  He uses resonance to obtain large amounts of power from small scources of energy to do what appears to be majical to kids spying.  Resonance could not only lift the blocks ten feet it could throw them clear across the gulf of mexico and catapult them into the yucatan penninsula.  How does a catapault work.  You have a horse wind up a spring for an hour.  Then you release this one horsepower worth of wattage in a second.  You multiply your kva roughly a thousand by the inverse of delta t.  One hour has 3,600seconds in it. So your horse working on the oats you fed it now produces 3.6 times 10 to the 3 times 1 times 10 to the 3. Add the exponents muliply the integers and your oats investment in energy just got you a very energetic happening.  3.6 times 10to the 6th.  Or 3.6megawatts of energy.  More than enough to catapault a good size rock into space never mind set it on top of a wall.
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 13, 2012, 04:28:05 AM

    I know the one that excited him the most was the standing waves existing in the ground.  He was all about developing wireless communications at this point.  Here was the solution for getting information to any point on the globe.  He did not want to mess with the oscillator frequency or amplitude to transmit the information. Damn he was spending months to get it pumped to maximum efficiency at one frequency.  How the heck to get a feeble microphone output into an oscillator rated in the thousands of horesepower. 
  The solution appeared that july 4th 1899.Stationary wave field in the Earth.  I think these particular ground waves were around  68 khz carrying low frequency information with no modification of the oscilllator. Tesla never understood what he had discovered back in New York.  He saw the voltage multiplier effect and ran with it.  He knew any transfer of energy efficiently would have to get rid of current.  When he saw coronal effects coming off objects the voltage multiplier was born.  He maximized the effect and created the Tesla transformer and spent many years developing the magnifying transmitter.  I know why the MT lost it's funding and later got torn down by the US military. It has nothing to do with sequestering scientific data or JP Morgan or all the rest of that krap and everything to do with public safety concerns.  Ed makes a beautiful little theme park he hopes children enjoy.  He uses resonance to obtain large amounts of power from small scources of energy to do what appears to be majical to kids spying.  Resonance could not only lift the blocks ten feet it could throw them clear across the gulf of mexico and catapult them into the yucatan penninsula.  How does a catapault work.  You have a horse wind up a spring for an hour.  Then you release this one horsepower worth of wattage in a second.  You multiply your kva roughly a thousand by the inverse of delta t.  One hour has 3,600seconds in it. So your horse working on the oats you fed it now produces 3.6 times 10 to the 3 times 1 times 10 to the 3. Add the exponents muliply the integers and your oats investment in energy just got you a very energetic happening.  3.6 times 10to the 6th.  Or 3.6megawatts of energy.  More than enough to catapault a good size rock into space never mind set it on top of a wall.

I think you are correct. This is what a Giant Lever is capable of, energy storage over time. Like pushing a car with wheels. Hard at first, then easy once it is moving freely. The priceless question is, does this apply to magnetic current, or electrical velocities? I am tempted to say yes. Especially if the transformer is moving whilst the spark gap is in operation. Tesla insisted he had detected waves as fast as 50 times the speed of light. He also claimed to have "overcome distance". This is no small claim.

Here is my abstraction of the PMH oscillating http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ePe7SJf_KQ

It is still in the experimental stages. It is slightly assymetrical hence the balance change in weight distribution, I think. I'm still trying to explain it properly.

I think my experiment here proves that electrons don't exist in the battery. If so, then we are so so close to identifying the true source of the chemical batteries power redivision. If chemcials have orbits, then it is likely the battery is throwing out it's orbits, the assumption was that it was electrons that made them up. Remember Leedskalnin says JJ thompson got it wrong, and that Electrons don't exist.

The question is , is this video/ and the Russian Video proof of non existing electrons. I say yes. Dividing the current properly can prove it, again the question is, have I/we proved it sufficiently, and is there any alternative explanation for or against the electrons in the given video example.

Regarding the Marconi JP Morgan Krap, i couldn't agree more!! Here is something i typed just hours ago on the exact subject. http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/12764-post-project-camelot-definitive-energy-conspiracy-tap-tap-off-tapper.html . I highly recommend it for anyone who suspects the military and government may have interfered in the development and dissemination of this technology in the 21st century, for the last 100 years, as you rightly state. It adds the ground work necessary to relate fully Leedskalnins works to Tesla's. In my mind anyway.

Hope it helps,

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: TinselKoala on June 13, 2012, 05:19:34 AM
Come on, Sparks, I know you know better.
I was with you all the way up until you confounded POWER with ENERGY. Your horse has not changed the energy required to catapult your rocks to Yucutan at all. The "horsepower" is a measure of power, which is the Rate of energy storage or dissipation. You store _energy_ at a RATE of one horsepower (about 750 Watts) for an hour.... and since a Watt is a Joule per second, you have stored 750 joules per second x 60 seconds per minute x 60 minutes per hour = 2.7 megaJoules per hour, and if you did that for an hour, you have stored 2.7 million Joules. Then if you manage to release all of that in, say, 1 millisecond in your catapult, you have reached a momentary POWER level , in Watts (Joules per second) of 2.7 megaJoules per 0.001 second, or  2.7 gigaWatts.
But that's no big deal... you did it with the same 750 watts of input power, just stored over a long time and released over a short time. The same amount of energy in is released back out (neglecting losses of course; the horse has got to eat and rest and all that). Power is the rate of energy "usage" or flow past your measurement point. Energy (power times time) is conserved, power alone is not.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 13, 2012, 06:46:11 AM
  @tinsel
 
     I know better and sorry for my confusing terms.  But you know we can store energy in a capacitor and let the past come into the present at a rate we so desire.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 13, 2012, 05:14:36 PM
  @tinsel
 
     I know better and sorry for my confusing terms.  But you know we can store energy in a capacitor and let the past come into the present at a rate we so desire.

That's correct. Charge capacitor with high voltage and small current on 1Mhz oscillation, take out on 50Hz.. What you get? Same analogy with horse before just "constant" energy in this case... :)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 13, 2012, 06:47:03 PM
@7dorbs
 
  You create a Tesla wave it starts off as a conventional time variant electromagnetic wave.  Then it goes straight way into amplitude.  Essentially taking a photon and converting it into another form of energy we are unaware of.  It is not a time variant electric field.  It's a potential frozen in time.  I can see how a series of these could be encrypted and communicate with well anything and anybody "out there".  Einstein just made the statement energy is mass and limited it to photonic energy by the introduction of the speed of light constant.  It works for electromagnetic waves.  This nontime variant thing of Tesla's (it sure as heck isn't a wave) adds a whole new dimension to Einsteins spacetime grid.   I believe this is the form of communicaton crop circles use.  The little balls of plasma are caused to be manufactured right here at home from baryonic matter.  They are constructed by intelligent design and programmed to do certain jobs encoded in their program.  Once their mission is complete these drones just speed out of side to disintegrate into the plasmasphere or just go out and have some fun swimming around checking things out.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 13, 2012, 11:01:32 PM
@7dorbs
 
  You create a Tesla wave it starts off as a conventional time variant electromagnetic wave.  Then it goes straight way into amplitude.  Essentially taking a photon and converting it into another form of energy we are unaware of.  It is not a time variant electric field.  It's a potential frozen in time.  I can see how a series of these could be encrypted and communicate with well anything and anybody "out there".  Einstein just made the statement energy is mass and limited it to photonic energy by the introduction of the speed of light constant.  It works for electromagnetic waves.  This nontime variant thing of Tesla's (it sure as heck isn't a wave) adds a whole new dimension to Einsteins spacetime grid.   I believe this is the form of communicaton crop circles use.  The little balls of plasma are caused to be manufactured right here at home from baryonic matter.  They are constructed by intelligent design and programmed to do certain jobs encoded in their program.  Once their mission is complete these drones just speed out of side to disintegrate into the plasmasphere or just go out and have some fun swimming around checking things out.

I don't just believe what you have said here is technically right. I believe I'm able to demonstrate it now ;) Here we go, magneto dielectrics, longitudinal waves, the VERTICAL FLAT WAVE. Here we have apparent switching causing an cause that is ahead of time of the effect.

:)

Now this is why the Lenz effect can be broken. I just haven't worked out how to make use of it. Don't worry I will, because, now, not only is my electricity moving, but my Transformer is as well ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTriBftOPtw

best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 14, 2012, 01:22:04 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTriBftOPtw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTriBftOPtw)


I might be wrong but your coil goes down on each time spark occurs. And you have contact from coil in upper position with coil connection to right edge. Your wire is from downside of that contact so when spark occurs it wants to stick to coil wire. So this is where push down occurs when these contacts try to stick into each other...
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Magluvin on June 14, 2012, 04:24:40 AM
That's correct. Charge capacitor with high voltage and small current on 1Mhz oscillation, take out on 50Hz.. What you get? Same analogy with horse before just "constant" energy in this case... :)

Hey T

So how would we accomplish this?  ;]

Mags
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on June 14, 2012, 04:41:33 AM
I might be wrong but your coil goes down on each time spark occurs. And you have contact from coil in upper position with coil connection to right edge. Your wire is from downside of that contact so when spark occurs it wants to stick to coil wire. So this is where push down occurs when these contacts try to stick into each other...

Hmm unless I misunderstood what you said, I believe you may have misunderstood what the video is trying to convey. Or rather, what I am trying to convey with the video,( frame by frame.)

Note that the vertical blue travels up, BEFORE the terminal is closed on SEVERAL occasions. I've caught it thousands of times, this is just one video stepped frame example for you to see.

So it looks like the vertical ground "telluric" wave travels up, in conjunction, or rather in-lead to the cause of it.

This is profound to me. However, I am thrilled on the other hand that somebody else had a different interpretation? I'm definitely all ears for more :) Thank you so much for commenting on this. It feels like a major breakthrough but I may be missing something elementary at this stage,

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on June 14, 2012, 04:07:37 PM
I would set the contact up stationary and move it up and down by a mechanical means. You can clearly see the deflections from the various angles of attack.  A perfect sphere on the gap might be better to study this.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 14, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
Hmm unless I misunderstood what you said, I believe you may have misunderstood what the video is trying to convey. Or rather, what I am trying to convey with the video,( frame by frame.)

I ment, your coil's right edge moves down mechanically due wire push. And that mechanical movement is generated due strong current going over wire in spark place.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 14, 2012, 05:43:32 PM
I would set the contact up stationary and move it up and down by a mechanical means. You can clearly see the deflections from the various angles of attack.  A perfect sphere on the gap might be better to study this.

   Another velocity and direction of the Earth has been confirmed by measuring the difference in cosmic back ground radiation as observed from Earth. .  This has been determined to be about 600km/sec towards the constellation Leo and points far beyond.  To gain anything from this you have to initiate something real fast inside a sphere or a torroidal configuration.  Otherwise you have to compute the peculiar motion of a whole bunch of stuff to figure out where to place your observer.  When you have to go to the market.  The market is travelling at 600km/sec towards Leo.  So aren't you and everything in the entire galaxy and supercluster.  So to get to the market you have to change your inertial organization some how. You have to alter your inertia so that the market and you aren't in inertial synchronization. The unit of inertia the inertia money so to speak is the photon.  You have to get rid of photons that are causing your inertial synchronization with the desired spot you want to go to.  So this 600km/sec inertial characteristic is shared with everything in the galaxy and to get somewhere in the galaxy we have to overcome this scalar inertial constant common to all matter in our galaxy and supercluster and alot of other "ancient stuff.   I think Ed knew this.  He watched the stars and all that and figured out peculiar motion of a body.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on June 14, 2012, 05:59:51 PM
Hey T

So how would we accomplish this?  ;]

Mags

Same system as N. Tesla used: AC signal, step up transformer charging capacitor then spark gap discharging capacitor in peaks -> Tesla coil/other transformer->load... :)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: TinselKoala on June 15, 2012, 07:26:10 AM
Tesla used spark gaps because that was the best he could do. He knew that rapid interruption of the current was the key to generating good ringdowns between sparks in his LC primary tanks and some of his most remarkable work concerns improved types of spark gaps, including rotary mercury-bathed ones and magnetically quenched ones. The idea is to have the ringdown frequency of the primary tank circuit be the same as the resonant frequency of the air-core secondary. Air-core to eliminate magnetic saturation which limits voltage and wastes power. So you "strike" your primary LC tank with a sharp spark and the ringing oscillations resonate the secondary. The better your primary circuit and spark gap the more ringing with less decay (higher "Q") and the more power transfer to the resonant secondary. This is like pushing the child's swing in time to its swinging, but only giving it a new push every few cycles or so. You can get  the swing going very high using small pushes every few cycles.

So.... carry this idea a bit further using modern solid-state components, and simply "strike" the resonant secondary itself, by driving the primary directly at the secondary's resonant frequency.

Voila ! You have eliminated the need for the HV neon sign or microwave oven transformer, the big capacitor, the mechanical spark gap, and the danger of the HV primary supply. This is like pushing the swing on _every_ cycle, but without the losses of the cap and the transformer and the mechanical gap. You get improved power transfer, more construction options, and remarkable power levels because the voltage amplification from standing wave resonance in the secondary is so great.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on June 16, 2012, 10:29:15 PM
   Tesla used tube valves as soon as he talked Lee Deforrest into making them for him.  Tesla had something else going on in his transformers latter on.  It basically boils down to this.    Say you have a plate in a capacitor (in tesla's case the entire secondary is a plate)  and all of a sudden the plate gets bigger.  This uncharged piece of plate stays uncharged no matter how much Q is transferred to this new piece of plate.   The plate gives up as much charge as it can discharging to this new piece of it's matter that just won't charge up.  It's electrically connected to it with very little resistance but this piece of mass just wont charge up.  Now the plate in giving up it's charge is less charged than the space surrounding it.
So it's charge density drops below that of the earth.  Attach wire to Earth thru working circuit.  Now current flows from Earth to plate for predetermined amount of time.  The piece of plate with the huge amount of permittivity is caused to change it's permittivity just about the time your plate starts heating up expotentially.  The current is then reversed and radiates back into space surrounding the plate but with a whole bunch of gain extracted from the Earth charge density.  This little piece of the plate keeps radiating charge until it drops to background conditions.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: rensseak on June 17, 2012, 08:11:30 AM

Note that the vertical blue travels up, BEFORE the terminal is closed on SEVERAL occasions. I've caught it thousands of times, this is just one video stepped frame example for you to see.


If you cover the flash a little would then the blue line also to see?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: mauvixx on July 20, 2012, 01:51:17 AM
Hi,  I was reading the first passage of Ed´s book and I found this:
 
This writing is lined up so when you read it you look East, and all the description you will read about magnetic current, it will be just as good for your electricity.
 
It stinks of cryptography (this writing is lined up)
 
1- When you read "it" look EAST
2- EAST = 5+1+19+20 = 45 =9
I tryed the ninth letter after every "it" on the first paragraph. The outcome was E+A+S+Y = easy!! Actually the last letter (y) cant be the ninth, is the last on the line, so I used the last.

Another funny thing. Ed says: "it will be just as good for your electricity"
Electricity is a word, so I tried the ninth word after every "electricity" on the text.
The outcome was:
experiment+tell+magnets+non-existing+electrons
Cool right??!! Can be a bunch of non-sense tough. I will keep looking into the text for a better confirmation.
Best regards, and good day!!
 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on July 27, 2012, 04:50:51 PM
Another riddle question for everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcd_QCLK5w#t=0h12m22s and multilayer Tesla coil winding http://nikolat.wikispaces.com/file/view/tesla-high-freq-coil.pdf
Both have same winding  :o

So what is relationship between them?

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: FatBird on July 28, 2012, 12:11:15 AM
I know exactly how Ed Leedskalnin moved HUGE & heavy boulders AT NIGHT without touching them.
Click on the Link below & you can know too (if you are NOT closed minded).
Ed did NOT use any drums nor electronics.
 
 
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html)
 
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Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: truesearch on July 28, 2012, 01:36:41 AM
@Fatbird:

So how did Ed move those heavy blocks? We do know he had various sorts of magnets and wire coils. How could that together with his 'permanent magnet holder' having anything in common with 'sound-driven-levitation'??

sincerely,
truesearch
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on July 28, 2012, 01:57:14 AM
Another relationship with spark gap in Eds generator and Ismael Aviso - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m20s

Is it coincidence? :)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on July 28, 2012, 02:25:51 AM
" Ed did NOT use any drums nor electronics. "


If I recall correctly, Ed was heard singing to the stones though.

Regards...


Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on July 28, 2012, 03:26:21 AM
" Ed did NOT use any drums nor electronics. "


If I recall correctly, Ed was heard singing to the stones though.

Regards...

You do not need electronics to short coil on peaks with spark gap... :)
The same thing between Ed Leedskalnin generator and Ismael Aviso and N. Tesla is coil shorting on peaks for very short period of time.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on July 28, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
Quote
How could that together with his 'permanent magnet holder' having anything in common with 'sound-driven-levitation'??
The average elevation of Homestead is 5 feet above sea level. The highest is around 26 feet so it is possible sound may have been used.
Cavitations in the Coral?
Notice the higher sound pressure in the graph.
http://www.subacoustech.com/research/images/human_hearing_thresholds.png (http://www.subacoustech.com/research/images/human_hearing_thresholds.png)

Notice also its the lower bass frequencies that have the highest sound pressure. Bass frequencies are a longer wavelength which is why you hear the bass first on an approaching vehicle.

Nice link Fatbird!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on July 28, 2012, 04:48:58 PM
  I recently visited coral castle and this is a place of musement. Not amusement musesment.  Upon observing the back wall of Ed's college the first thing I mused upon was the sculptures he placed there.  Working from right to left there was a small crescent wrench (tool used by mechanics often called an open end wrench)  then a large crescent wrench  followed by a sculpture of Saturn and then a sculpture of the moon.  The gravitational fields of these two cosmological features most influence the gravitational field work done on the Earth.  The moon in one day does more work on the Earth than man has ever done since the beginning of time.  Saturn the big giant gas ball of huge mass is secondary to the moon in gravitational influence upon our planet. 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: xadmx on September 06, 2012, 06:25:33 PM
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n213/oadamo/castlemagnet.jpg
i might be down the wrong path, but any thoughts welcome.
adm
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: truesearch on September 06, 2012, 06:31:13 PM
@xadmx:


I don't know about you, but in looking at the photo I have a hard time believe ANYONE could ride that bicycle with all that extra mass attached to it. . . .  ;D


On the serious side, I too would like to understand what Leedskalnin did so that we could duplicate it.


truesearch
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: 7redorbs on September 06, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
good work my friend, a very keen observation. Note the chain wrapped around the frame of the bike.

Is it steel or iron frame bike, and is it hollow?

Hope I helped

Best,
A
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on September 07, 2012, 03:21:14 AM
 
Quote
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n213/oadamo/castlemagnet.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n213/oadamo/castlemagnet.jpg)
i might be down the wrong path, but any thoughts welcome.
adm

   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: xadmx on September 08, 2012, 05:23:42 PM
is anyone still looking into this.   it looks as tho he found a way to make a monpole field generator, and the drawing around the table with the numbers looks like it shows the field around his device. but i am looking for the connection on how he was able to flip the manget field if thats what he did, where can you get the magnets from that he was using.
thanks adm
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on September 08, 2012, 08:24:19 PM
Quote
where can you get the magnets
Heres just one source.
http://www.modeltford.com/item/3276B.aspx

 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: xadmx on September 09, 2012, 08:35:58 PM
Heres just one source.
http://www.modeltford.com/item/3276B.aspx

thanks for the link.

has anyone made a connection with the numbers on his door frame, does this mean ( look high look low ) as on his certificate his height is 5 ( 5 magnets high ) and his weight is 120 ( 120 magnets )  i have linked a few other things on the certificate but i am still checking them out.
adam
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on September 29, 2012, 05:55:14 PM
Hi guys,

There was some crosstalk in Muller dynamo thread so I left some information:

http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg338227/#msg338227


Hi T-1000,

some questions regarding ED L-device.

The pic above shows (mainly) the stator of the device?
What is the active side of the stator?
Is it outer ring (area) NN-SS-NN-S...? (I would say: No).
Is it inner ring (area), the Bloch Wall? (I would say: Yes). But I am asking YOU.

And the rotor is mostly gone?
It was in inside area? And had a (one or more) radial, iron-core, high-impedance coil? Going from Bloch wall to bloch wall?
Or was the rotor outside? What design?

Thanks in advance.

Regards
magneto_DC

The flywheel in one of many videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_X17dEI1J8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_X17dEI1J8)

Magnetic polarity: http://www.alexpetty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/flywheel-1.png (http://www.alexpetty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/flywheel-1.png)

All magnets are "V" phorm, the bloch wall is inside of rotor. They are 24, phorming "VV" connections with N+N-S+S (same poles from 2 magnets forced together) combination.

The PMH is missing there. The only one place where you can see it attached to flywheel is in this photo: http://www.leedskalnin.com/Generator.jpg (http://www.leedskalnin.com/Generator.jpg) ( http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninImageArchive.html (http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninImageArchive.html) )
Also people are playing with it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcd_QCLK5w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcd_QCLK5w)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: logos on October 21, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
@Derek.....my explanation about facing East was only one of a few reasons as you note....
Ed also faced East when he made his measurements of the Earth's true path, using his polaris telescope and sundial ect.
The compass dial he used to mark his findings has "looking East" written on it as well.
In fact....alot of the tests in Magnetic Currents have multiple meanings and when cross referenced, lead to other information.
I've attatched a pic of Ed's compass dial that i edited. (the words on the original pic were hard to read so i put them in bold)
hey scotty!
i'm a big fan of your work.

you do realize that this is a 2D picture of a 3D event ;)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on October 22, 2012, 08:09:14 AM
What i have found is that Eds PMH held this energy forever, till the core loop is broken. His generator at coral castle is a PMH, the magnetism is residual, left over from being energized like any iron PMH will do. The field that PMH makes can be oriented by gravity, artificial or natural. The artificial way Ed used was centrifugal so that the center line [axis] and equatorial plane are opposite sides of the energy he termed magnetic current. I have also found that this energy is absolutely and completely visible.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsyUU0fPxeo and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRgcC_mK97k  are a couple of examples of just how visible this field can be. I am still trying to get usable video of a piece of coral deforming in this field, what i mean by that is i can push down on the coral and it bends ever so slightly but even a deformation of hundredths or even thousandths would be significant, wouldn't it ? And the way a PMH can induce giant paramagnetism in MANY metals, [aluminum, LEAD, magnesium etc.] and even heating the lead to melting did not cause the metal to loose its newfound property, just showing that this energy is profound in its abilities. With the coral, it is like the density is being manipulated, making it become softer and lighter. There is another thing i have noticed, is that at times, certain objects SEEM to loose some of their opaque-ness, but movement, or another form of energy has to be added to get that effect. I have seen a video from John Hutchinson that has many similarities to what I and many others are experiencing with the devices I make. I believe John makes something similar but with HF radio and other waves as the extra energy needed, added to a PMH type field, to obtain his effects. I believe that he looses a lot in controlability of the effect, using electrically produced fields and that Ed made the same type of field using magnetics as its source so he gained a better control of the energy fields . Edward Leedskalnin cut and placed many tons of stone. He said he used the generator, at his castle, to accomplish this feat, i believe he did just that and it is those same energy fields that I have rediscovered.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: OzTrAlien on January 02, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
As this is my 1st post i would like to begin by thanking everyone who has been studying the works of EDL and others and have been sharing their findings and i urge those pondering the works to list any thoughts they have as even the smallest of thought from someone may expose a direction overlooked or as yet unseen that may help to unlock this puzzle. 

Just some thoughts on the bike in the pic, i think it represents the bi-cycle nature of the forces we are attempting to uncover, Ed was very meticulous in all he did, i feel the chains represent the flow of the "current" as ED has pointed out both sides move together, if one is made to move so to will the other, the chains going up present the field being created by the "currents" moving up out of the generator and back down to the castle walls and vice versa , the walls had thick flattened copper cable run along the top of them, this i feel worked much like a "high-voltage lifter" does except the walls do not rise as they are grounded and no gap is between the cable and wall, this passed the "energy" to the walls and a  field "box" made out of the walls, the walls are in 2 halves around the complex not 1 continuous piece, so one side of the "currents" was drawn to one side of the castle wall and the other to to opposite side, this is represented by the pic, the chains going up being intertwined through all the block and tackles (ie : the lifting mechanism placed high) and then coming down in their bi-cycle form to the walls, as Ed has pointed out 1 side goes up from the earth one side goes down into it, depending on where you are and the direction you face, by moving the currents around the walls the lifted object could be controlled by passing the correct type of magnets through the object to get the desired outcome, this is a 2 part "system" the walls being 1 part to form the field and the other part was placed high above the field so as not to interact with the field directly, but could be used to induce the flow of the desired "magnets" into an object to allow for lift to be controlled/made, hence the box on the top of the tripods and the cables running from it, this was "tuned" from the wall field or if you see it like this was drawing from the generated "energy" and if it is as i suspect a PMH inside it this allowed for one current form to be passed down the cable to a "wrapped" stone, this made the stone lift as we know opposites attract and like poles repel, the PMH has the ability to "separate" the 2 sides of the currents much like how a Lord Kelvin Generator causes the water to separate the polarities of the water molecules and allows one side to drip for one end of the pipe and the other to to drip from the other end but not actually separate the water. It is this wall/Top of Tripod relationship i think Ed was referring to with "raising the girls too big" will make them "round" if you make the field strength in the wall too strong it will connect both sides and make a big "bubble" or become 1 whole field encompassing the tripod and loosing the ability for it to be able to be separate of the field and used to make/control the lift, so you need to keep the wall field strength at a point to create like a figure 8 on its side and have the tripod siting above the lines of force that are being formed, i hope this is showing how it might have been done, i think the "field" relationship strength wise is like Jupiter and Saturn, how they are almost the same size as seen in the sculptures, or the harmonic value is created within the 2 waves tuned to these values, i dont think the "flywheel" rotated, this is mainly because of the wire that is set in the flywheel came out through the hole and connected to somewhere below, if it rotated this wire would bind and break, i believe it rocked back and forth through a very specific arc, that would create the pulse rate needed to give the specific value needed for the field to be developed, i believe water was in the inside of the flywheel and this is what allowed for the rotation to be passed to the field, Ed's favorite presentation to guests was him sitting in his bath and the water not rising, which i feel he was showing how water will displace any energy put into it, and yet not change, just a hunch and he had obviously calculated his displacement that was carved as the step in the bath :), but as he pointed out in the book about Matter/Life water traps magnets/sunlight and this is then conveyed on to the things that use the water, ie: through the water, well i have gone right of track so will leave it at this for now, but that's my thoughts on the bike in the pick and the chains, well some of them and i'll ramble more later. 

Be Well
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: nosaerdna on March 16, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
A clue for you...

ADM.10¢.

DROP BELOW.

ADM.10¢.:
A=1, D=4, M=4 giving us 144.10 cents, or 144.10 Hz
1 cent is also 1/100 of a semitone in music, which is referred to in Hz.

DROP:
D=4, R=9, O=6, P=7
4 + 9 + 6 + 7 = 26
2 + 6 = 8

DROP = 8
ADM.10¢ = 144.10

DROP BELOW = 8 below

144.10 - 8 = 136.1

136.1 Hz is the sound signature of the Earth as it travels around the Sun raised 32 octaves (audible range) and is also the OM frequency.

Coincidence?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: IotaYodi on March 17, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Just some observations and speculation.
 The original design comes from the Model t Magneto system which produced 30 volts Ac to fire the condenser coil with one layer of Magnets. I embellished the picture. There would be alternating vortices at each pole and 5 deep. This would seem to make an alternating torroidal vortice surounding the whole wheel like a Toroidal coil. Which could be an electric field ,or unknown field, being 90 degrees from the magnetic field. That could be what Dave Lambright is seeing. Notice the polarity positions.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on March 18, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
   The coral castle is in  a place where water from the everglades drains to the sea.  When the tide is high it rises in a cave Ed dug into through the coral   When the tide goes out the cave water level drops.  Near his generator there are pipes leading to ?.  Between the generator and the pipes there is a lever that appears to have had linkage on it.  I'm wondering if the pipes acted as a piston.  A float in the pipes would be forced to rise and raise a weight.  At high tide the weight was clamped.  He waited for the aquifer to drop to dead low and unclamped the weight to drive the generator.  The generator appears to be a variable reluctance generator.  By changing the reluctance of the magnetic circuit in a generator you can develop voltage.  It is the equivalent of sliding off the keeper in his pmh.  This requires energy to do.  This energy was provided by the tidal changes in the aquifer below the castle.   We can of course store energy in a permanent magnet holder.  It is a magnetic flux capacitor,  If the voltage developed by the discharge of one pmh is used to charge a remote pmh what you have is a basic energy distribution scheme with the advantage of high energy storage capacity.  A magnetic flux battery able to be charged by dc current. 
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: truesearch on March 18, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
@sparks:


You present an interesting explanation for Ed's "energy-source" that I hadn't ever considered.



I checked the tide change (source [size=78%]http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/marine/tides.php?loc=miami_harbor (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/marine/tides.php?loc=miami_harbor)[/size] ) and it looks like the average is in the 1.5 ft to 1.9 ft range. That seems like that wouldn't really provide much energy to harvest.


truesearch
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: T-1000 on March 19, 2013, 12:05:16 AM
The things are much simpler than you think. I strongly recommend to watch this video first: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXEYEomvlsQ#t=0h07m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXEYEomvlsQ#t=0h07m10s)

E. Leedskalnin just did right magnet configuration on the wheel to achieve same effect with much higher magnitde it seems. Also his PMH in generator coil represents another missing bit in generators. In old photo it was revealed and seems the PMH was using 3 magnet poles (conventional generator coil uses 2) for making generator coil to be also motor driving coil:
http://leedskalnin.com/Generator.jpg (http://leedskalnin.com/Generator.jpg)

That needs to be replicated  by someone...

Good luck!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on March 19, 2013, 05:26:03 AM
the energy in a PMH is in its nature magnetic. the flash of light when the crossbar is pulled off the PMH shows this, but once the bar is pulled the field dissipates. i believe Eds generator IS a PMH. there is a visible field around every charged PMH that is polar like magnetism. it can be separated, the same way temperature aligns itself with a gravitational field, artificial or natural, a centrifuge can separate the PMH's energy field. this energy is visible. this energy is NOT electricity. the dissipation of energy from a PMH will make electricity[tiny flash]. an analogy of a PMH's field is ambient temperature. a vortex tube spins air and separates temperature, google it. spinning a PMH separates the magnetic energy it holds into its polar opposites. this is magnetic current.   
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: david lambright on March 20, 2013, 05:52:21 AM
i saw some images of fire tornadoes, the way the vortice enlongates and concentrates the heat in the center is very interesting. in a rotating mass of air with a source of flame or heat, the fire is driven to the center and spins faster. the PMH energy follows the same thermodynamic flows and laws
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: derekwillstar on April 09, 2013, 08:59:42 AM
the energy in a PMH is in its nature magnetic. the flash of light when the crossbar is pulled off the PMH shows this, but once the bar is pulled the field dissipates. i believe Eds generator IS a PMH. there is a visible field around every charged PMH that is polar like magnetism. it can be separated, the same way temperature aligns itself with a gravitational field, artificial or natural, a centrifuge can separate the PMH's energy field. this energy is visible. this energy is NOT electricity. the dissipation of energy from a PMH will make electricity[tiny flash]. an analogy of a PMH's field is ambient temperature. a vortex tube spins air and separates temperature, google it. spinning a PMH separates the magnetic energy it holds into its polar opposites. this is magnetic current.



Exactly!


David, I will follow you on youtube, thank you for your precious revelations!


The nature do not need electricity! (do not know what to do)
the flash you see is mono-magnetic positive energy, the same one that comes from our sun ...


PMH currents flow in mono-magnetic "N" (positive , yang , light) and  the "S" negative yin opaque.


the same energy exchange that occurs between the sun and the earth.


Please consider the law of rhythm by Pier Luigi Ighina: http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279 (http://www.fortunadrago.it/?page_id=279)
(Traslation on the right)




greetings from Italy
DOM
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: FatBird on April 09, 2013, 11:20:22 PM
I know exactly how Ed Leedskalnin moved HUGE & heavy boulders AT NIGHT without touching them.
Click on the Link below & you can know too (if you are NOT closed minded).
Of course, Ed did NOT use any drums or electronics.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html)
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: truesearch on April 09, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
@Fatbird


Is your opinion that Leedskalnin used sound oscillation/harmonics for moving the stones at Coral Castle?


truesearch
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: mp on May 27, 2013, 05:18:58 AM
Hi everyone, this is my first post, I'm glad to find this place!
I have been fascinated by Ed for many years and for many reasons. One of his main draws to me is in his writing. I study and practice tai chi and Qi (chi) the energy worked with in the art has always been assumed to be minute electric current. Ed clarified this concept in his explanation of magnets and how they form everything. They say in tai chi that Qi's movements through the body is always closely associated with the movement of blood --makes perfect sense because of blood's iron content. This is only the tip of the  iceberg however, but I won't bore you with details but just to say that there are ground rules to successful practice that all conform to what Ed stated in his book Magnetic Current.

Along those lines, I would like to state that I believe Ed's machine was not created until well after all of the stones were in place. If that is so, then his secret must be from a different source. One place I am looking is partially exemplified in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npyYLMv2cpk   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npyYLMv2cpk)
I do believe he was in some way controlling energy and I think it was partly understanding the energy of the area and doing "something" with the leyden jars--just not sure what! But I came across information at some point a few years ago that stated that at the original site at Florida City, that there were leyden jars in the pit where he extracted blocks--they were in the corners aiming inward.

Anyway, glad to be in this group!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sparks on May 28, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
  Ed was into electronics also.  There was a glass bottle sealed with a cork and about it he had wrapped a copper coil of heavy wire he salvaged from automotive starter motors,   It was displayed on the wall along with various parts he had salvaged from radios from the salvage yard.  If you look at his generator it is a variable reluctance generator.  There is a magnetic circuit in any generator and by varying the reluctance or magnetic resistance to this magnetic current you can vary the magnetic field about a conductor.  His generator had copper windings (stolen after he passed on) .   What he has are permanent magnets initiating magnetic current through a steel loop.  When he cranks the generator he changes the resistance to this magnetic current and induces a current in the copper windings by varying the magnetic field they are lieing in.  It would be the equivalent of not pulling the keeper off his pmh but using a disk with slots in it for a keeper.   The disk is caused to spin and when a slot lines up with the two core legs the magnetic current drops.  When the steel in the disc lines up with the core legs the magnetic current increases.  According to faradays (could be Lenz) law electrical current flowing in the coils will produce a magnetic field that opposes the force producing the magnetic field change.  This is why when we push a permanent magnet into a coil the resultant current flow in the copper increases the amount of force needed to advance the permanent magnet through the core.  In this case we are not moving the permanent magnet at all nor are we moving the conductor at all.  Both are static.  The load current creates a magnetic field that counters an increase in the magnetic circuit reluctance.  But when does this current flow?.  The coil has high inductance which will phase shift the current flow.  So the electrical current flows to the load decreases the reluctance of the magnetic circuit and this should be just about the time the slot has cleared the core faces.  Now the permanent magnet produced magnetic current finds it easier to flow due to both the keeper being back in place and the decrease in reluctance of that portion of the core passing
 through the load coil.  Again the coil finds itself in a changing magnetic field density and moving electrons (often at velocites up to 1/6 the speed of light) are guided to move towards one end of the wire more than the other.  Voltage appears at the ends of the coil.  There are losses to be overcome such as eddy currents in the core and keeper. (steel has free electrons too)
   Another thing using magnetic currents is that he would use steel cables as conductors.  The place was loaded with them while under construction.  He also salvaged copper wires from the starter motors in the junkyard.  If we take a steel cable and around one end we wrap some copper wire.   Cause current to flow in the copper wire at this end.  At the far end we wrap copper wire around it.  Now take the far end and along a return steel cable and attach it to the other end forming a loop.  What you have is a simple transformer with an extended core.  This may be more efficient than electrical transmission.  When you come to think of it we have to force the magnetic field in a transformer core to an unnatural state.  We can connect in series with our transformer primaries ballasts so that we use the magnetizing current to accomplish some work.  Then when the core reaches magnetic saturation we interrupt the primary current.  All would be lost if the core stayed magnetized.  It would be a simple matter of energy from the scource being radiated in the ballast resistor and turning the core into a permanent magnet.  This is not what happens.  Nature returns the core to a natural state.   And does so very quickly if the retaintance of the magnetic circuit is minimized.  So if Ed is magnetizing his loop and using resistance in series with the primary magnetizing coil to drive a motor (to say drive the disk as shown below) and using the far copper loop around the cable as his secondary: the collapse of the unnatural magnetic field created in the loop would be able to power a load attached to this output coil without drawing any power from the magnetizing scource.  This could be accomplished by use of a spark gap or patrially evacuated vacuum tube.  The vacuum tube would act like an avalanche diode.  The low voltages induced due to the slow change in the cable magnetic field would not be enough to overcome the resistance of the vacuum tube diode.  But the high voltage due to the collapse of the magnetic field would.  Effectively inserting the secondary into the picture on collapse of the magnetic field and not during structuring of the magnetic field.

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: sadang on May 28, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
@mp

Try to understand the Leedskalnin only trough his theory, terms and practice. If you will try to understand his work according to the actual scientific terms (mecanics, electromagnetics, quantum physics...) will waste your time! The best solution is to start understanding his way of thinking, and after that go back to 1900 at least, when all terms about electricity, magnetism and gravity and in general the scientific paradigm were still not so abstract as today!

Think a bit that Leeskalnin was a contemporary of Tesla, Schauberger, Moray, Steinmetz, Hendershot, Stubblefield, Hubbard, Rife, Rusell, Ehrenhaft, Reich and many others! Try to see the world trough his eyes!

Just my thoughts!
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: mp on May 30, 2013, 02:40:41 AM
Sadang,

That's exactly what I'm trying to do! For one thing, I don't know too much about scientific principles but it seems to me that Ed had an understanding of (I hate to say it like this) the way of the universe. It seems to me that he had such an understanding that he could make extraordinary things work no matter the tools he had on hand.

I am pretty sure I am right in this because of the number of things he pulled off in his lifetime. Moving massive stone is great but so is curing himself of advanced TB, fixing his watch, creating a pressure cooker.

Have you had the opportunity to visit the Coral Castle Sadang?
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: Grumage on July 20, 2013, 12:00:53 AM
Dear All.

Whilst new to this thread I have been mainly involved with solid state overunity devices of which T-1000 has been "Long distance" helping me with.

A few weeks ago he mentioned the device of Ed Leedskalnin and had an idea of how by squeezing the like poles of a pair or pairs of magnets might have an unorthodox effect. Well earlier on this evening we ran up just a single 180 deg opposed pair, ie one end squeezed N the other squeezed S. The magnets are Neodynium of 6mm cube form.

I have attached the scope shot that was produced by the action on a single coil. This coil has a 4 mm dia relay core and it's resistance was 113 ohm's. Note the very sharp rise and fall in amplitude.
We also noted that upon shorting the coil, very little Lenze effect was seen and the motor driving the rotor did not take any more or less current.

So in conclusion, just imagine 24 pairs acting on multiples of coils!! Well given some time, as the test was so fruitful, I will be constructing a 24 pole rotor and our results will be posed here.

Best wishes to all, Grum.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jfd on April 13, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
I know how to solve a good part of the riddle:

All the graphic elements in ALL EDs writings are aligned! ALL! Even 2 horizontal lines.
If you stack them you get explanation about second coil. Because it is not needed for PMH to be a magnet. You get output there if you are turned east...
Yin - Yang symbol horizontaly turned - http://users.skynet.be/lotus/orien/china0-en.htm

If you evolve on this information please notify me! Very interested! (krapsa at gmail dot com)

Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jfd on April 16, 2014, 12:03:40 AM
Symbols combined - addition to previous post.
Title: Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
Post by: jmi_112 on July 23, 2014, 05:06:16 PM
David, I think you are on the right track.
"i believe Eds generator IS a PMH."
I believe that too but could you elaborate on this?
What do you mean by this? How do you think Ed's flywheel works?

Best!
Julian.