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Author Topic: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .  (Read 243636 times)

Offline NetViewer2011

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2010, 02:48:08 AM »
Thank you Mk1 for directing me here.  First off, let me re-ask these questions.
I was wondering if anyone has the measurement of the diameter of Ed's flywheel that they can share.  I used to be on the code144 forumn, but when that forumn was taken down, alot of the info regarding the flywheel dimension was lost.  If anyone from that forumn is on here and want to share the info, I would greatly appreciate it.

Secondly, to answer smOkey2 question regarding the books.  If yours has hand drawn pictures made by Ed, then it is the original version.  The one from Keelynet and from Amazon are edited, there are no pictures in them.  I hope that helps.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2010, 02:48:08 AM »

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2010, 03:32:44 AM »
Netviewer2011

Welcome to my tread ! I don't have the dimensions but i think you could extrapolate them from the magnets .

I would look for Ford Model T magneto magnets , they are still in the market ...

Keep in mind that the ford magneto has only 16 magnets (sweet16)

Mark
 


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2010, 05:35:43 AM »
@ netviewer

Thanks, i found that version, but its in a .PDF so im unsure about the formatting of that one as well,..

ive been at this for hours, im still missing the first couple of sentences, so i cant put this into context,. i have no idea what the hell hes talking about,. but here you go...

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...   when the order is the same the north pole (is up?)
Test a much longer magnet so that its south pole is to the east.
The wire will not be in the air until the south pole points west.
When the north pole is to the east then it will be lighter.....


this takes me to the bottom of page 5/13 of my copy.

im up against a wall here with this formatting.. im gonna print out the pdf. w/ graphics and give it another go. i need to find one that prints properly, the first one i tried, the words were all fuzzy when it printed out..


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2010, 07:20:54 AM »
they're all the same pdf file,.. (51 pages)
looks fine on the screen, but when i go to print it out, its all jacked up... guess im gonna have to work off the pc.
little inconvenient, but what do you do....



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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2010, 07:43:01 AM »
the code has nothing to do with the format.

the meaning of "look east" is apparent only when the illustrations are present. you look east, so that when you perform the experiments, north is to your left and south is to your right.

i'll keep working on the message and post what i find.


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2010, 08:14:50 AM »
begining page 2, just after the log/lat location

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A magnet with its poles equal and close to another magnet will cancel the earths magnets (see experiment page 6/7)

when the (order?) is the same the north pole is a much stronger magnet than the south pole

(turn?) to the east
the wire will not be in the air until the south pole points to the west

when the north side is to the east then it will be lighter

this is starting to make more sense now, pending experimental verification...
can it really be that simple? did Ed use the earths own field to defy gravity?

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2010, 02:26:50 AM »
To Smoky2
So I went thru Ed's Magnetic Current book again, but couldnt find any of the quote that you put up.  Are they from his other works?

I also had the same ideas about the Egyptian, found many info on their petroglyph.  Unfortunately, I couldn't read their hieroglyph.  I noticed you said u taught yourself how to read them. Can you advice me where to start so I can learn how to read the hieroglyph?

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2010, 02:45:43 AM »
I just found that scribd has it. It looks pretty hand drawn to me but you must pay to download it.
I don't have any books worthy of upload so I must pay. via credit card.
And there is an ever present peeking in being done by facebook.
(I really don't trust facebook)
I noticed fuzzytomcat's name on the right and it told me the books fuxxy likes to read!
What?
So, if anybody has a paid up account at scribd, it might be great to download it and maybe share the pdf here?

thanks,

jeanna

ps
I went back to the page and waited for the whole book to download, and saved the page as... and it appears to be there, all but a piece of the last drawing. Perhaps I didn't wait long enough?

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2010, 11:32:47 AM »
To Smoky2
So I went thru Ed's Magnetic Current book again, but couldnt find any of the quote that you put up.  Are they from his other works?

I also had the same ideas about the Egyptian, found many info on their petroglyph.  Unfortunately, I couldn't read their hieroglyph.  I noticed you said u taught yourself how to read them. Can you advice me where to start so I can learn how to read the hieroglyph?

Ed hid it in plain sight.  theres a sort of pattern to it, and the words pop out like one of those pictures you stare at, with the hidden picture inside. What he is saying goes along with the experiments in each section.
still trying to piece it together, but it sounds to me like in the first section, he is telling us to place two steel wires in line with the earths magnetic field, and allow the earth to magnetize them.
then then turn them 90-degrees, (north to east) and they will repel each other, causing one to lift into the air. and "become lighter"

i have some time comming up this weekend, i need to put some work in on this archer quinn thing, but i'll set some time aside for ED as well.
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The ancient languages:

i cant "read" heiroplyphic text. there are many dialects that have evolved over the centuries, throughout many of the ancient cultures. what i call "ancient" is a time-frame between 5,000 and 12,000 years ago, some go back even 20,000 years. but nearly all of them, throughout the world, reference an advanced civilization that predates their own history.

What i learned over the years, was to referencially translate the glyphs. My study began in the local libraries, and museums. Some of this information is now available on the internet, but there are only a few small samples of heiroglyphic images online.
i also caution using the internet as a reliable source of translation, as much of this information is innacurate, especially when it comes to correlating the pictograms into our own 'alphabet'. many of the images represent multiple words and even sentences, not simply "letters" as some websites proclaim.

as a generality, the older the language, the more 'meaning' each picture holds. Much of the knowledge of the egyptians was passed down verbally, and as such, each of the pictures, especially in the older glyphs, has its own story-line, upon which it is based.

Each time-frame, within a given culture, should be handled individually. There is not a single reference-point, to translate all of the egyptian writings. I found that the best approach is to select a text of interest, and a referenced translation of that time-period.
From that you can establish the meaning of many of the glyphs,
and then find a few more texts from the same period of time, to cross reference, (using their respective refreenced translation) with the first. There will be discrepencies. Pay close attention to these, and mark them, because you will come back to those glyphs once you gain a better understanding of what they mean, and how the language of the ancient egyptians was written.

contextually, their sentences do not flow like ours, they are "Backwards" compared to the way we write our sentences.
(no offense intended to those of european descent)

the reason i suggest seperating them into time-frames, is in the fact that a particular glyph may still hold a similar meaning, but in the following time-frames/ dynasty/ reign (whatever you want to call it) its 'use' may be very different.

It is a time-consuming, and labor-intensive process, and many times you may be forced to seek the advice of a historian, or professor that can actually "read" the glyphs of that particular time-frame. and even still, they often argue with one another over the true 'meaning' of some of the glyphs.

most of them are written in reference to the reigning king, and gods (kings) that preceed them.  It is probably best to work along the time-line, from oldest to most recent, as there are glyphs that did not exist previously, and their meanings change throughout time, and even regionally. discrepencies can be found when translating glyphs, from even the same time-frame, between the north nile and south nile regions.

when you find a particular glyph that does not read the same, between referenced translations, make note of them.
and compare how they are translated in other texts of the same time-frame, as well as in previous and later texts.

When you have had enough of the egyptians, i would point you in the direction of the other ancient cultures around the world. undergo the same process with their glyphic texts.
North Africa, The mayans, Aztecs, Spain,
and reference these with the writings from ancient greece, the Norse/vikings,

i started to work on the chinese, mostly interesting to me because of their isolationist attitude, that with the fact that their language  has remained intact throughout almost all of their history, made the ancient chinese an ideal candidate. but i found their language hard to comprehend, and their mythology is so intertwined into their culture in ways that surpass even the egyptians. i gave up completely on that.... in the little bit of study that i did on the chinese, (with the exception of some 'ufo' type stories) i did not find reference to an advanced civilization that predates their history, so at this point, i have chosen to exclude them.
not because their history is "unimportant", but because my search was for the keepers of knowledge, and those cultures that chose to record this knowledge with the intent of passing it down to those that come after them. And although they did seem to be ritualistically traditional, that was an aspect i did not find the ancient chinese to possess.

After you gain a good understanding of the knowledge of the ancient cultures around the world, i would suggest that you then compare this understanding to the universal theologies found in ancient India and Tibet (although their written histories do not go back nearly as far, many of the universal principals are similar)

As you go through this process, pay close attention to the use of geometry, astronomy, mathematics, science, architecture, 
references to magnetism, electricity, and the "machines" of their repsective god(s). What you will find is that this pre-ancient civilization played a great role in the development of almost every ancient culture around the world. They had aircraft, weapons, and technology that may have been more advanced then we are today.

How or Why they were destroyed remains a mystery, as it seems that nearly the entire world suffered a similar fate, and was rebuilt.






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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #84 on: August 05, 2010, 11:43:57 AM »
@ jeanna

this seems to be all here. you can click the Full-Screen button to get rid of the stuff around it.
for some reason i cant get this to print out properly. This is the same .pdf that is floating around everywhere else.,
it appears to be a scan someone copied from an original coral-castle pamphlet.

http://magneticcurrent.blogspot.com/search/label/Magnetic%20Current


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #86 on: August 05, 2010, 04:57:32 PM »
As far as I know, the original did not have any illustrations.  Those were done by someone a few years back.


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #87 on: August 05, 2010, 08:44:35 PM »
Hi Jeanna,

Here is one possibility:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

rgds,  Gyula

THANK YOU, GYULA!
That is a very clear copy.
I have saved it and I will use it.

jeanna
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@Sm0ky2,
Thanks but...
FYI
That link took me to a blog page with an embedded copy which I could read, but to download it I was taken to the scribd page to login again. (and a charge for it)

I find your discussion of the ancient languages very interesting.
Thank you for sharing your experience.

jeanna

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2010, 12:04:31 AM »
Hi Jeanna,

Here is one possibility:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

rgds,  Gyula

this is the same "public  .PDF" file.
i can tell you where the words are written in large bold lettering, this is edited from the person who made the file.
and are sometimes in the wrong place, like on page 13, the words at the top, should actually be at the bottom.

i might have to agree with what Thoth said, that the original may be text only....
the illustrations are very helpful though, at least to someone like me with a 'visual mind'


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2010, 12:15:47 AM »
What you will find is that this pre-ancient civilization played a great role in the development of almost every ancient culture around the world. They had aircraft, weapons, and technology that may have been more advanced then we are today.

How or Why they were destroyed remains a mystery, as it seems that nearly the entire world suffered a similar fate, and was rebuilt.

You might find this interesting Smokey2.  It's a bit long, 13 episodes but contain a wealth of info.  I don't agree with everything in them, but I have had enough exposure to many cultures around the world such that many of the ideas they presented rings true to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szTppqfCL0g&feature=fvw

In regard to pre-ancient Chinese past, very few Westerners know this.  During the Three Kingdom waring period emerged a famous strategist.  He is renowned for his intelect and mastery of all the school of science (weather prediction, psychology, logistic, etc.).  He was featured in a movie called "Battle for Red Cliff" where he predicted that the wind would reverse direction on a certain night and employed it in his fire attack strategy.  You could say he is the Chinese equivalent of Leonard DaVinci.  On one of these campaign, there were a shortage of men  to run the supply line.  So he devise what is translated literallly as "wooden ox or wooden horses" .  They didn't require food or rest and can carry supply tirelessly.  (Sound to me like robots or automatons).  One of the most interesting aspect of this legend is that, it made a point to show that the strategist never claimed credit for the invention, he claimed that he saw the schematics and plans in one of the northern tribe.  Why is this significant?  Many cultures around the world claim that they emerged from caves or "underworld" (like in South America, India, Hopi tribe in North America, the Sumarian in Middle East).  And what do you find in northern China? Mountains, which means there are caves.  To me this is similar to all the private and military bunkers that are built by our modern societies to wait out catastrophy.  In the Artic is a bunker built to house all the world plant seeds (just a hunch, but maybe they know the earth surface is going to be scorched?)

Okie back to Ed stuff.  You now perk my interest in this coded message thingy.  So I looked at the 2 link to youtube that you posted.  Unfortunately, the train of thoughts of the author was too fragmented that I could not follow what he's trying to convey.  Maybe you can teach us how to decipher it?

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