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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2010, 04:04:48 AM »
You have the magnet order wrong.  This video shows the magnetic pole configuration on Leedskalnin's generator.  The flywheel has a north south north south.....pattern, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemkVvlaMNU

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i wasnt going to comment on that, because there are so many different theories floating around about that wheel of his..

when i went there in the 80's, it seemed quite clear to me that this was a Generator, not a motor. the chains and weights drove the generator, wound up on the horizontal sprocket above.

i believe this is what ed used to recharge his batteries, and create magnets. when the weights hit the bottom, he wound them back up like a clock to operate te generator again.

but even way back then, it was only half assembled, and missing several pieces.  from what i hear, its in even worse shape today..
which i think is the cause of most of the confusion.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2010, 08:14:48 AM »
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I would not really make conclusions on the magnet as of yet , the reason are simple , magnets in close proximity of each other can reverse the field or plain stop , and you clearly see in this video the magnets need recharging.

Second , Ed liked his girls weak , girls is the south pole , he told us about it .

The way the video is made is not precise enough for me , there are 5 rows of magnet are they all the same ?

How much decay is responsible for the current results ?

It would take many hours of meticulous verification before i will admit it to be the way .

Now if that is true , its a good news , no need to make special magnets , any old magnet will work ...

To make a real test , you need a real compass , those magnetic readers are only good to make movies , you learn nothing from using those , you can't see the magnetic lines .

The way the test was performed was inconclusive , he is checking the peak of 2 magnets at a time ? The reader can only show one polarity at one time most likely the strongest .

If you want cavitation you need a vortex implosion , Ed made basically a Magnetron with the cavitation cavity on the out side instead of inside like the microwave.

@all

I know i sound crazy at time , but come on your guys are just looking for excuses to go back to sleep , the world is changing will you have your word to say in it ?

If yes , then do it !

There is no right or wrong there is only logic , you don't need any experts on that , you are one!


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2010, 09:05:04 AM »
i wasnt going to comment on that, because there are so many different theories floating around about that wheel of his..

when i went there in the 80's, it seemed quite clear to me that this was a Generator, not a motor. the chains and weights drove the generator, wound up on the horizontal sprocket above.

i believe this is what ed used to recharge his batteries, and create magnets. when the weights hit the bottom, he wound them back up like a clock to operate te generator again.

but even way back then, it was only half assembled, and missing several pieces.  from what i hear, its in even worse shape today..
which i think is the cause of most of the confusion.

I agree it is not motor but a generator , but not a electrical generator but a magnetic current generator , hence the magnetic current tittle , and on the
picture you can clearly see that once you know what to look for and have some idea on what gravity is .

But i have to say i had many theories before this one , but none made sense with the evidence and clues left , i bet most just don't see clues as clues but plain rocks without meaning .

I have studied Art history 4 years , also took astronomy , electronics , mechanics , physics , chemistry class in college , was painter , sculptor photographer , i also am a musician play many instruments and i am also proud to say i am a chess master (if you don't play at a competitive level you don't get it, if you want super brain function you have to train it.

I quite versed in most intellectual fields , this is why i see stuff others just dismiss , i am only stating what to me is evident , for the last 2 years i worked on the assumption that if it is evident to me it evident that is all , i am not one usually to state the obvious but since clearly learned this to be false ...

I oblige my self to do so , otherwise no one will see it .

I will not go to Africa to help or be a missionary , because i will help even more by sharing what i am good at , apparently its to see invisible things , lol.

Everyone wants to save the world , first save your self , help by doing what you can do best...

What will i have to answer and build and explain everything my self .

       

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2010, 09:59:36 AM »
@all

I will try to illustrate magnetic current in its simplest form ...

The holder :

The holder is a piece of iron you put at the end of u shape magnet to keep the magnetic strength up in the iron magnet.

Simple as it looks , its is quite interesting .

First thing to observe is that the magnetic field around the magnet is gone .
This can be observed with a computer screen quite fast .

The magnet is still active but the magnetic current is not circulating inside the iron bar not outside around the magnet .

That is magnetic current !!!

How to use it ?

I will show you all in the next few post , this is nothing new it was used in the old days i have seen it on the Ford Model t magneto , and many other example of the same thing like eds machine.



 



 


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2010, 10:05:57 AM »
One example is http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm

Look the the wire connecting both magnets ...

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2010, 11:50:28 AM »
@all

Ok i can't find any decent pictures of the other example of the use of magnetic current , i was searching for the mini romag generator and ford magneto use in early t models but was actually it was invented by Keeley .

Ok first photo Make and break ...

Now one coil is installed on the holder and a led connected to it , making and breaking the connection of the holder with the magnet makes current flow in the coil and light the led .

This show that you can make a transformer action happen no battery , you just need to break physically the connection , all this can be done completely in the magnetic domain , i will not only show you but also how to improve any motor with the magnetic current switching .
 

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2010, 11:57:52 AM »
@all

Other thing to keep in mind , when you have a wave in a core the magnetic current is 90 degrees late , 1/4 of the freq rate ...

I think Tesla was referring to this as quarter wave ..  running the load on the quarter wave , for magnetic wave .

Meaning of things change so much over time  ??? i guess we will have to find out .

Mark

now 6am i am out !
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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2010, 02:18:22 PM »
i wish Scotty would chime in right about now, this is HIS subject. hes a professional when it comes to the perpetual motion holder.

he has built many of them, and has done more work on this subject than anyone else i know of.

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Second , Ed liked his girls weak , girls is the south pole , he told us about it

This should tell you exactly what he was doing with it.
the forces are both stronger and weaker than one another in opposite ways.
south has a weaker repulsion force (antigravity?) than the north.
inversly, the north has a weaker attraction force (difficult to verify, but ED walks you through that in one of his experiments).
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Im putting this into my own words here, but...

Ed defines electricty as the resultant force of the magnetic current
 (induction)

when magnetic current flows through a metal, at a non-parallel vector to its length, (length can be defined through any dimension of the metal), it causes the force we know as "electricity". This is simply a reorientation of the normal electron flow through the metal.
electrons always flow through a metal, but without the magnetic induction, the flow is balanced, resulting in a net-0 electrical potential. This theory can be used to show that all of the natural forces are reduced to the magnetic current. (aetheric in nature)

Heat, gravity, magnetism, light, atomic forces (weak/strong), ect.

its still a work in progress, but this analysis helps to clarify many of the "fudge factors" inserted into our current physics model.



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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2010, 02:47:57 PM »
i wish Scotty would chime in right about now, this is HIS subject. hes a professional when it comes to the perpetual motion holder.

he has built many of them, and has done more work on this subject than anyone else i know of.

This should tell you exactly what he was doing with it.
the forces are both stronger and weaker than one another in opposite ways.
south has a weaker repulsion force (antigravity?) than the north.
inversly, the north has a weaker attraction force (difficult to verify, but ED walks you through that in one of his experiments).
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Im putting this into my own words here, but...

Ed defines electricty as the resltant force of the magnetic current
 (induction)

when magnetic current flows through a metal, at a non-parallel vector to its length, (length can be defined through any dimension of the metal), it causes the force we know as "electricity". This is simply a reorientation of the normal electron flow through the metal.
electrons always flow through a metal, but without the magnetic induction, the flow is balanced, resulting in a net-0 electrical potential. This theory can be used to show that all of the natural forces are reduced to the magnetic current. (aetheric in nature)

Heat, gravity, magnetism, light, atomic forces (weak/strong), ect.

Bring your friend Scotty , we will laugh it out , lol ...

If you are only searching for reasons it will not work , you may pass the working option , at this point you clearly see that i am still going , well yes i know where i am going , when i show my stuff all the details will be already out .

All i will say is copper and iron are 2 different beast and no i am not talking about the perpetual motion holder , i believe building one is enough to get it but its only a example not a tool like the wheel and that is the subject at hand here since no one even comes close i need to go step by step ,by next weekend , you will begin to see the picture .

Btw i also am a expert in Leedskalnin bring one to me so some could grasp what i am saying . Bring him on if he is honest he will see his i am telling the truth and only that.

Ed would iron push and pulls , copper only pulls (i may be push i don't remember , but not really important to this point)

And he made more electricity with iron then copper ...

details on it this can be found in this article its not complete but its a good start ...

http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf2/fields10.htm

Iron becomes a magnet if you allow it to , ask your self why chains ?
then why are they that big ?

Any i will answer i a really clear and provable way ...

Ed show us a picture of what he could do , he showed just enough so you could figure it out on your own . Not the work of some one else .

What you do with what you learn is up to you really , once you get it ...

But please keep going it show interest , and i can see where i left details out , or things are unclear .

This is really magnetic current not electricity , they don't work the same much simpler . 

But make some magnets , then kill them and reverse the magnetism .

Its fun and entertaining , you can make magnets of every strength but if you only charge one side its not a magnet it take 2 side , hence one can be weaker . 

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2010, 05:21:58 AM »
This is a great topic, Mk1,
I will be watching.
thank you,

jeanna

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2010, 05:24:29 AM »
everything Ed used was recycled, from something he found, or something that had outlived its original "use".
even his generator itself was made from parts of his old truck, and tow-chains.
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i guess my description of "electricity" was confusing the subject, it sounds like you thought i meant something different than what i was trying to say... but i dont know any other way, than to say it the way i did.

Ed doesnt talk a lot about "electricity", except to prove that the magnetic current CAUSES the electricity.

he used iron wire because that's what he had,. it makes electricity just the same as copper, just in greater abundance for its mass (induction), the trade-off is the additional attraction force. (magnetism).

but then again, this was comming from a man who could defy gravity, lorentz' force, ect.    So to him, it didnt cause a problem to use the iron, in fact it was to his benefit.
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why does iron create more induction for its mass?
 because there are more "tiny magnets" in the iron than in the copper. This causes them to set-up a permanent magnetic current through the iron. Copper does this to a much much smaller degree., which is why a "magnetized" piece of copper has a faint, almost indetectable field.
"electrons" orbit along this magnetic current path, creating a permanent magnetic field through the iron.
which is why the iron becomes "magnetized".









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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2010, 06:02:02 AM »
everything Ed used was recycled, from something he found, or something that had outlived its original "use".
even his generator itself was made from parts of his old truck, and tow-chains.
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i guess my description of "electricity" was confusing the subject, it sounds like you thought i meant something different than what i was trying to say... but i dont know any other way, than to say it the way i did.

Ed doesnt talk a lot about "electricity", except to prove that the magnetic current CAUSES the electricity.

he used iron wire because that's what he had,. it makes electricity just the same as copper, just in greater abundance for its mass (induction), the trade-off is the additional attraction force. (magnetism).

but then again, this was comming from a man who could defy gravity, lorentz' force, ect.    So to him, it didnt cause a problem to use the iron, in fact it was to his benefit.
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why does iron create more induction for its mass?
 because there are more "tiny magnets" in the iron than in the copper. This causes them to set-up a permanent magnetic current through the iron. Copper does this to a much much smaller degree., which is why a "magnetized" piece of copper has a faint, almost indetectable field.
"electrons" orbit along this magnetic current path, creating a permanent magnetic field through the iron.
which is why the iron becomes "magnetized".

Yep he could have recycled copper , and saved him self some time by not rewiring his alternator with iron ...

Yes those magnet are from t model ford magneto , i know that and actually been promoting recycling for 2 years ... i get that .

Now i will enjoy showing you how you are off by 90 degree tomorrow , but basically you input to many thing you know about electricity into it .
So much simpler .

The is no magnetic current in copper .

Now i am off to bed early first time this week , in the mean time think about how magnetic current would work in a chain , to help you whit this reflection  , what happens when a piece of iron is in the field of a magnet .

Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron .

What can carry more load a really big but week magnet , or a super strong micro nano neo-magnets  .

More tomorrow 

     


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2010, 07:04:56 AM »
The is no magnetic current in copper .

Now i am off to bed early first time this week , in the mean time think about how magnetic current would work in a chain , to help you whit this reflection  , what happens when a piece of iron is in the field of a magnet .

Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron .

What can carry more load a really big but week magnet , or a super strong micro nano neo-magnets  .
   

copper does in fact magnetize. and retain a magnetic field. as do ALL metals. to different degrees.
i can prove this, but its really irrelevant, because the feld strength of a copper magnet is so weak, that we consider it to be non-magnetic...

in a chain, hmm... the current would split at each link, wrapping around each half of the link, then merge back together....
like an "infinity sign" ....
i would theorize that each "half-current" would switch sides of the chain at the next link, then switch back at the next link, not really sure about that, thats just how i see it in my head..

"Is polarity stronger then the plain attraction of the iron?"
im not sure what you mean by that

Load: if you are talking about two magnets of the same Gauss/Tesla,  then i would go with the larger magnet. It's field domains are spread across a much larger surface area, therefore it can hold more metal-mass in its grasp.
the field domains of a neo are compressed, and the metal does not stretch them out very easily.
where-as a less powerful magnet, like say a ceramic-ferrite: the metal will draw the field domains fully around itself, and into an adjoining piece of metal.

You can do this with paperclips., get you a neo and a ceramic of the same strength.
the larger one (ceramic) can hold more metal-mass.
even though they both have the same "rating"

To demonstrate what happens to a piece of iron ( or any metal for that matter) in the presence of a magnetic field, i draw the following: i simplified this by showing the path of a single electron, in actuallity there are 26, in groups of different orbital radii.
2/8/14/2/ respectively.
keep in mind that the atomic structure of each metal is different, so the exact formation taken on by their respective electron orbits will differ, thus resulting in differing field-vectors, and subsequent megnetic induction. This drawing closely resembles Iron. pardon my crude artistic work, im no Picaso...
also i feel the need to mention, that when i say "electron", this term is used in classical physics to describe an observed phenomena, in reality what they are observing is something much different, but for the purposes of this discussion, the classical "electron" will suffice. The external magnetic field alligns the field-domain of the nucleus, which in turn, affects the orbit of the "electron".
In the case of iron, a complex atom, there are neutrons present, which themselves behave similar to iron, by which i mean the magnetic induction from the protons translates into the neutrons, giving the entire nucleus the same magnetic charge, as if the neutrons were not present. this is similar to sticking a piece of iron onto a magnet. its mass increases (and field domain expands), but the field "strength" remains relatively the same. (minus some losses due to the physical induction)
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anyways, this is my crude sketch of what is going on when iron comes into the presence of a magnetic field. Its not perfect, but this should give the general idea.


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2010, 07:16:12 AM »
this field is an electro-magnetic field, of four distinct frequencies.
these frequencies are dependent upon the radius of the electrons respective orbits, and combine to create the irons' "atomic frequency". This frequency is extremely high, and for all intensive purposes, we view this field as a 'static-magnetic' field.


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2010, 07:53:04 AM »
@smoky

Dose copper becomes a magnet if magnet is applied to it .

Ed did not use magnets to create electricity but to create other magnets .

We here can only think about electromagnet , for that you need electric current .

He used heavy chains to conduct magnetism not electricity , why use electricity to make magnets when magnets to it for free ...

If you ever have a chance to get what he was doing you have to keep in the magnetic domain . No conversion to electric the back to magnetic the problem is that is all we can conceive .

So what happen if you put a piece of iron on a magnet the piece of iron becomes a magnet and will repulse other magnets if not on the right polarity but if the magnet comes to close to the iron it will stick to it, ed used this to make his generator rotate .

He use the big transformer casing as a magnetic capacitor , its has big mass of iron to concentrate the magnetic field that is switch from North to south when the wheel turns , the magnetic current not electricity travels down the chain each link making its own magnetic field back to the wheel the training weight is also a magnetic capacitor .

The idea is to direct the magnetic field to push on the same polarity else where on the wheel , in the magnetic domain .

Now why the magnetic domain , look at the rod in the bottle and the chains , they are big in diameter to make sure they hold enough magnetism .

I am waiting on fresh battery to make a video example ...

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