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Author Topic: aluminum can and copper wire batterys  (Read 50129 times)

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2010, 11:41:45 PM »
all
started new test with two cans
 white vinegar and water
vdc       ma
 .635      .269

bleach water
1.027      .273

 lemon juice water
1.116    .141

The Observer
could you let use no what your getting with your setup if you could ples thank you
The Observer is correct in saying the final voltage of a steel/copper water battery is about .6-.7 VDC.
It takes a couple of days for the cell to actual get to that voltage in an open circuit.  The only cost to me is the wire.

Do your vinegar/bleach/lemon-juice batteries give more voltage over time like the steel/copper ones?
What ohmic value of resistor were you using?

Research questions for future study:
Can these batteries be made to act like a backup UPS with a trickle charge applied to them over time?

How long will one hold a charge if it sits on a shelf unused for awhile?  Will the charge decline over a lengthy time period?

--Lee

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 11:57:20 PM »
ROCHELLE SALT try this stuff out it is used to make piezoelectric crystals which generate electricity ...

Maybe you'll have something then worth a shot...

Maybe try the bargin bottle with 1031% more from walgreens of aloe vera with some rochell salt...

Aloe Vera has an acidic pH which helps to encourage the body to secrete proper amounts of hydrochloric acid to improve digestion and absorption.

Being that it is gel it may last longer IDK worth a shot though!


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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 12:30:46 AM »
SALT try this stuff out it is used to make piezoelectric crystals which generate electricity ...
Maybe you'll have something then worth a shot...
Maybe try the bargin bottle with 1031% more from walgreens of  with some rochell salt...
Aloe Vera has an acidic pH which helps to encourage the body to secrete proper amounts of hydrochloric acid to improve digestion and absorption.
Being that it is gel it may last longer IDK worth a shot though!

http://www.reference.com/browse/rochelle+salt

Well, maybe?  This is potassium sodium tartrate.  Dissolved in water, it might act like a salt, since it actually is a salt, but money spent on the stuff and research into voltage generation would be necessary, yes?  Electrically, unless there's an unknown factor somewhere, it's just a chemical salt.  I could check out the price at Walgreen's, if they sell it.

LATER REEDIT:
I checked at Walgreen's:  No Rochelle salt for the same use as Epsom salts to soak in water for sore feet.  However, they did sell an electrolyte for babies who suffer from diarrhea or vomiting to replace natural electrolytes, but it goes for US $6.00/qt (or liter equivalent).  It had salt and other things in it.

It occurs to me that diluted soda is also acidic and inexpensively available everywhere.  Not mush should be needed in tap water.

--Lee
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 05:31:50 AM by the_big_m_in_ok »

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 12:33:44 AM »
lee


i hate to be dumn but what does What ohmic value of resistor  mine i dont no

will see how long they will hole a charge these can with vinegar/bleach/lemon-juice are going to be my controll i not going to add anything to them and aee how long they will list till the reading are 0 or no water in them my first test is for 5 days and then i and going to see how long i can keep a led on and so no till i have 12v all the time and that even with a load on it and even if it says at 12 v for a week or month it wood be good


infringer
where can you get
ROCHELLE SALT  at ill give a shot and see what happens

thanks for all of the help you guys

tom


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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 01:19:52 AM »
I actually have a big tub of it but usually your local supermarket...

I am just shooting in the dark here no sound principals at all to tell the truth!

I will tell you what maybe I will preform the expirament myself here and save you the hassle !

Hell they sell it on ebay as well I think...

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 02:32:42 AM »
well .813 was the highest voltage read so I think you have me beat on the lemon juice

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2010, 02:32:45 AM »
Well, I am trying now longtime tests
on a graphitepaper-alufoil test cell and so far it
looks quite nice.
The starting voltage without a charge is about 1.45 Volts.
After the electrolyte is a bit degraded, the cell
is down to about 0.9 Volts and stays there for a long time,
if you don´t draw much current from it.
You can also reacharge it several times and it will
behave like a combination of a supercapacitor and
normal galvanic cell.
After the charge it can go up to around 1.9 to 2 Volts
and then slowly goes down to around 1.3 Volts, if you
don´t discharge it.

I will tell more soon,
when I have done a stacked version with more cells
in series with much
more voltage.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2010, 02:40:42 AM »
infringer

i am leting mine set for 24 hours and see what happen then and then iam going to see how long it stay up or if it goes down fast yours mine go up in 24 hours ;D

Stefan.

whats you geting on it sound like you might have somethere


thank for the info you two

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2010, 06:20:55 AM »
Oh crap I already took my cell apart lol dumped all the electrolyte ...

I could try rochell salt and water...

Oddly the salt turned the gel into the consitancy of water maybe this is to be expected but i'm going to let the rochell salt dry out and harden for kicks and see what happens with it...

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2010, 07:24:25 AM »
Greetings,

I created a Penny Pill Jar Battery (with Bolt).
1 Jar gives an approximate voltage of .650 Volts.

Two of of them in series run a JT just fine !

Will be interesting to see how long it will last.
The Picture Below should explain.

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2010, 07:52:18 AM »
Funny I used a pill jar as well but a clear one and a pop can which I cut the top off of...

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2010, 08:06:34 PM »
all

my 24 hour test on vinegar/bleach/lemon-juice

vinegar

dcv      ma                           
1.132  .266
to start with   
vdc       ma
 .635      .269


bleach

.885   0.16
to start with
1.027      .273

 lemon juice

1.235   .124
to start with
1.116    .141



lee
thanks ill try them i no someone who has a baby and i no they have some electrolyte of it that i can try


infringer

let us no what happens


The Observer

Penny Pill Jar Battery who now thats useing your head lol what kind of bolt or any old bolt wood work @whats blue paper towel i dont no what that is ?


Stefan.

dont the alufoil get eat up with that set up?


well i am going to try  tomato juice and dill pickle juice and then i am going read the all of the jf post wich will take 10 years lol



tom
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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2010, 08:12:36 PM »

Stefan.

dont the alufoil get eat up with that set up?

tom

Yes, but it latest now almost 3 weeks !

You can do a few recharge cycles.
I am using a bit K2CO3 as the electrolyte in tapwater.
This seems to be a good solution.
Will have to check in more how often I can charge and discharge it
and see how many cycles I can get out of it.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2010, 04:06:11 AM »
wound up loosing some voltage after a few hours I believe it was .734v or something I did not do any charging per say but check these out for chargers they may make some good chargers if you cut the USB cable end off hook up positive to anode and negative to cathode ...

I ordered them www.thingfling.com

obviously you would need roughly 5.5v worth of these to make a difference....
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Re: aluminum can and copper wire batterys
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2010, 05:08:10 AM »
Anyone try jalapeno juice or some other hot pepper with water this may do something not sure...

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