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Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2  (Read 312897 times)

magnetron88

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #675 on: September 29, 2011, 02:37:39 AM »
I worked with this type of magnets "special torbay" answer ... not too good for the engine!too hard to repel the magnet down!

magnetron88

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #676 on: September 29, 2011, 03:02:27 AM »
too many weird things in case torbay...

magnetron88

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #677 on: September 29, 2011, 02:36:19 PM »
Hi all... :) new update!

Frank

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #678 on: October 02, 2011, 03:37:22 AM »
I am still working on my model. Run into same problem, when motor starts, it speed up so fast, that all magnets were sheared off. Now i am working on complete encasing magnets into AL cages.
        God bless
                      Frank

magnetron88

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #679 on: October 02, 2011, 03:40:25 PM »
hello Frank! So you had the same prolem as all other members of the topic here on this engine! have you ever seen on page 45 with my corrected plans? to understand how the engine works in Torbay the original video, must be analyzed frame by frame the following: remove stator, stator down, exact location of the ball bearing that pushes up the stator, etc. etc. .....all indications are good to understand and correct the errors of each!
Walter Torbay engine is not a hoax! I understand just what kind of magnet should be taken, and the power of magnets! and manufacture precision engine components! unlike some people, I do not think that the topic torbay is dead! think that we must have the will to do! and of course tools and machines! ;) this engine was born to run, you must prove it!

God bless

Geoffray

mscoffman

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #680 on: October 02, 2011, 09:28:26 PM »
I am still working on my model. Run into same problem, when motor starts, it
speed up so fast, that all magnets were sheared off. Now i am working on
complete encasing magnets into AL cages.
        God bless
                      Frank

If you really had this problem, it's kind of like curing cancer,
even if you cure it, the patient is eventually going to die of
something else.

The real cure is to have a non-linear speed resistance
such as a fluid torque converter used as a brake. Like
wind resistance the braking force needs to go up as
a power of the rotational velocity. The braking force curve
then intersects the magnets output power curve at some
point, that is then your motors maximum rpm. Wind
resistance eventually does this but at a rpm far to high
for other stuff.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Frank

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #681 on: October 05, 2011, 09:33:32 PM »
Hi Geoffray-magnetron88
Congrat`s on beautifully designed Torbay magnetmotor replica.
But, dont forget , whatewer you are doing, you will end up with
same problem like anyone else, motor will find parking position (Lock-Up).
As I mentioned before, this motor will only run if you keep system
always unbalanced, said that, motor will always chase unbalanced
position. That is solution to this.problem. How to create this
unbalanced system? Torbay motor was never operational. Not in the form
presented with his video. In concealed base, he was able to hide
even one diesel motor or battery pack.If you watch video, before
pushing stator on the rail, watch his finger flip hiden switch.
        Anyway, god bless you!
                                       Frank

maw2432

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #682 on: October 07, 2011, 12:33:08 AM »
my engine rolled 1 minute before releasing the magnets! due to bad glue! super good news, it means he can run! but I think my engine faults are mainly the lack of precision in the manufacture! torbay my mini is good for the trash! i built a new and better model! in the pictures you see the arms stator with more little magnets  5mmX2mmX1mm! I'll replace them with true arc magnet!

Magnetron,

Nice work!!   One minute Wow!!  Most of us would be happy to see a unit turn a couple full revolutions.

I think if you really look at what must happen is a magnetic leverage affect.   Because a leveraged force is affected by a proportional distance depending the distance from the fulcrum,  it may be possible achieve OU with magnets, because the magnetic field strength drops/increases exponentially over distance.   

Bill


Frank

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #683 on: September 11, 2016, 01:48:55 AM »
Wow !
Almost 5 years passed silently but not one whisper on this forum. Well I am now retired and finally I have time to prove to everyone, that this motor in any form has big potential.
Now I could pursue and finish this project, regardless of outcome, be it positive or negative. As I said before, key is in creating continuous system unbalance. Once I create this, then all pieces will fall in its proper place. Shame, many people did stop working on this project after first or second fiasco. Seems to me, that Magnetron88 was very close.
Anyway, I will try my best.
Regards
Frank

Low-Q

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #684 on: September 20, 2016, 12:08:46 AM »
Wow !
Almost 5 years passed silently but not one whisper on this forum. Well I am now retired and finally I have time to prove to everyone, that this motor in any form has big potential.
Now I could pursue and finish this project, regardless of outcome, be it positive or negative. As I said before, key is in creating continuous system unbalance. Once I create this, then all pieces will fall in its proper place. Shame, many people did stop working on this project after first or second fiasco. Seems to me, that Magnetron88 was very close.
Anyway, I will try my best.
Regards
Frank
Good luck with your project. I'm sure you'll figure it out  :)
Please post pictures as the project is moving forward.


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