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Title: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: infringer on June 18, 2010, 05:21:40 AM
Mixing, mashing, and banging ideas in my head I have plenty of ideas many I never share because I feel them to be profound or simply profoundly stupid but I believe I will soon change my course.... There is no idea too stupid one idea can lead to another idea and maybe several after that we attain something of value.

Black holes are interesting pieces in space... Many speculate much about them mainly Stephen Hawking. He is as in depth as they come. All of this is comes from memory and is simply theory that follows so if I am wrong please do correct me in the continued portion of this.

People speculate black holes to be mass compacted into a very small space, different things are believed to cause this. The death of a star is one of these things. So basically if we had a grain of sand that weighs a ton essentially this may be the makings of a black hole. maybe it would even take far less weight for a grain of sand I am really unsure.

Now if I also am correct it is said that negative particles are collected and protons ejected on to the event horizon...

My speculation from these conclusions are like this:
Black holes are simply create the conditions of antimatter as it sucks in these negative particles it is working like anti matter and all of the energy is contained by this black hole after all the forces of gravity are so great that not even light can escape the depths and it completely bends space and time.

The mass is 100% converted into energy without losses.

Now if we could take our grain of sand and somehow start the conditions for a black hole and contain it via some means which I will leave for others to work out maybe a full circle of negative magnets facing the negative poles and all the energy positive protons on the event horizon keeping it apart there is surely enough trash in landfills to throw into the black hole. Heck our waste alone may run the ship from here to where ever. If we were to then collect the energy from the event horizon I believe we may have some crazy amount of energy to use.

This is my way out there wild theory on propulsion of ufos.

One other thing that has brought me to this theory is at the center of many flying disc UFOs there seems to be a black spot it somehow reminds me of a galaxy with the black hole at the center even in the smoking gun videos it appears that the near see through crafts have a difference at the center. The other odd thing is it looks as if they are a pizza with a tiny slice taken out. Just observations.

IF YOU LOVE OR HATE THIS IDEA PLEASE DO SHARE WITH ME WHY OR WHY NOT?

It took a lot for me to even come up with a plausible theory!
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: Cloxxki on June 18, 2010, 05:57:13 PM
Nassim Haramein holds the theory that black holes have a white hole on the other side. Black compression, white expansion.
When we see expansion, we associate that with having missed the Big Bang. The latter being a moment, rather than a duration (white hole).

To extract mega energy, to be wirelessly transmitted (proven possible by Dr. Stiffler), you could locate 2 asteroids at different, but nearly colliding paths. Span a wire, stick it on the one, and put the coil on the other. Energy to be extracting (the wire being pulled) equavalent to the resulting mass*velocity vector of the 2 asteroids. I know, impossible, but there's A LOT of conventional energy out there not being harvested.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: gravityblock on June 18, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
One other thing that has brought me to this theory is at the center of many flying disc UFOs there seems to be a black spot it somehow reminds me of a galaxy with the black hole at the center even in the smoking gun videos it appears that the near see through crafts have a difference at the center. The other odd thing is it looks as if they are a pizza with a tiny slice taken out. Just observations.

Good observation!

That tiny slice that is taken out is more than likely due to an inverted field.  This tiny slice taken out can be seen in the objects shown in Nasa's Tether incident experiment.  Below is a picture of an inverted field by removing a piece of the magnet.  Here's an excellent video demonstrating the effects of an inverted field in a HPM, http://www.andrijar.com/homavi/motor.wmv

GB
 
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: giantkiller on June 18, 2010, 11:45:54 PM
Read these three books:
http://www.amazon.com/Decoding-Message-Pulsars-Intelligent-Communication/dp/1591430623/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276897361&sr=8-14
http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-of-Antigravity-Propulsion-ebook/dp/B003N3U3GW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=1276897361&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Subquantum-Kinetics-Systems-Approach-Cosmology/dp/0964202557/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276897361&sr=8-4

Your next set of questions should be further into the cosmos than you are now. ;)
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: infringer on June 27, 2010, 07:24:52 PM
Interesting read by Keely which was kinda along the lines of my theory in a way thought I would share...


Speculation on Keely and his method of anti-gravity focuses on 2 areas.
For Thrust (or levitation)
An artificial neutral center is created which causes the natural neutral center of the test mass to be drawn towards the artificial center with an attraction proportional to the energy flowing through the artificial neutral center.:For Weight Increase or aggregation of additional mass:When the artificial neutral center is superposed onto the natural center, the aether flows increase proportionate to the entraining amplitudes flowing through the artificial neutral center thus causing an increase in weight and a gradual INCREASE in the mass density.
For Levitation
A wire or ring is placed around the object. The ring is fed with a frequency that resonates with the neutral center of the mass. Such a resonance, properly directed can cause what Keely calls "high vortex action" to decrease or increase the aether flow through the mass neutral center. This flow creates the equivalent of a soliton, or a self-contained standing wave' with extremely high rotational velocities on the perimeter of the mass. Such a flow directly controls the "weight" of the mass by exceeding the Flotte 'Z' axis or better stated, by creating a higher potential in the mass aggregate than that of the surrounding media for ejection of the mass to one more favorable to its energetic level.
Keely also reported a cooling effect of the local air when the anti-grav effect was in operation (likely an ion wind).
Cavitation, Implosion, Water Hammer Effect
There is a connection between Viktor Schauberger's biological vacuum, and Keely's Neutral. Dale Pond has studied this up to a point.
Viktor Schauberger (or Callum Coats, translating Viktor's work) has referred to Keely a few times in his writings.
About a century ago, John Worrell Keely figured out how to run a motor on the power of cavitation or implosion, while alternately compressing and expanding water. He harnessed that we dismiss as nuisance- the water hammer- in water pipes. Dale Pond, researcher of Keely's physics, says that Keely's Hydro-Vacuo motor created a water hammer shock wave which when synchronized with the wave's echo, "results in Amplitude Additive Synthesis, a process which tremendously increased energy accumulations in quick order." Pond warns that this resonance amplification is similar to the process, which breaks wine glasses. from http://www.emfsafe.com/implosion/water.htm
A valve closing in 1.5 sec. or less depending upon valve size and system conditions, causes an abrupt stoppage of flow. The pressure spike(acoustic wave)created at rapid valve closure can be high as five(5) times the system working pressure. from > http://www.plastomatic.com/water-hammer.html
Dale Pond, in the SVP basics video, claims that John Worrell Keely's etheric forces and Neutral Center, have a lot to do with cavitation, or implosion, or the water-hammer effect. This water-hammer-effect is what they try and NOT do in normal engineering. same with vibration, again.
Callum Coats
in Living Energies, Callum Coats prints these estimates by Keely:
Molecular Vibrations 100,000,000 per second
Inter-molecular vibrations 300,000,000 per second
Atomic Vibrations 900,000,000 per second
Inter-atomic Vibrations 2,700,000,000 per second
Aetheric Vibrations 8,100,000,000 per second
Inter-aetheric Vibrations at 24,300,000,000 per second
Home-grown sine-wave experiments for software musicians
Punch in Keely frequencies 620hz, 630hz and 12,000hz, run through oscilloscope and watch.
Related pages

Klimator spinning wavy plate generating vortical movement of medium, generating cold or warm air = Viktor Schauberger related airconditionin device
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: giantkiller on June 30, 2010, 12:08:55 AM
I put 620hz, 630hz, 12khz into gnaural2 as 3 base frequencies.
I will also put this into my 3 frequency control system tonight and scope it.
I will also put this into my Sound Heterodyning Interference Transmitter (trinity device). I need to add a line out muxed with the 3 channels for larger audio and driver output amplifiers.

So far in Gnaural2 I like what I hear. Listen for 5 minutes then shut off and there is a tiny, tinny echo after short sounds in your hearing.

I muxed the 3 square wave freqs into one output and scoped it. The 12khz shows up in blocks that move slowly from right to left. Precession. Same would happen with sine waves.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: angryScientist on June 30, 2010, 06:31:29 AM
Back to the future; Flux capacitor. Yes it is a misnomer. Yes you are biased. Yes they are two different concepts created in two different way. Yes I am VERY board with the nonsense that has been offered by the general population (You).
Combine the two concepts (Flux, Capacitor). According to theory, what happens?
I'll even throw in some explanation for the nincompoops; Electric charges move in an electric field. A magnetic field deflects a moving charge. (Think AC.)
Tesla is rolling over in his grave and so is my Grandpa (Yes, he was a professor.)
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: angryScientist on June 30, 2010, 06:50:46 AM
Excuse me. Tesla was actually a doctor.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: giantkiller on June 30, 2010, 06:06:11 PM
I put 620hz, 630hz, 12khz into gnaural2 as 3 base frequencies.
I will also put this into my 3 frequency control system tonight and scope it.
I will also put this into my Sound Heterodyning Interference Transmitter (trinity device). I need to add a line out muxed with the 3 channels for larger audio and driver output amplifiers.

So far in Gnaural2 I like what I hear. Listen for 5 minutes then shut off and there is a tiny, tinny echo after short sounds in your hearing.

I muxed the 3 square wave freqs into one output and scoped it. The 12khz shows up in blocks that move slowly from right to left. Precession. Same would happen with sine waves.

Channel 1 = 620hz
Channel 2 = 630hz
Channel 3 = 12khz
Travel direction on scope is right to left.

Tonight I flip the channel 1 and channel 2 signals to see the directional change. Should have done this at the test.


This thread could use concrete examples of using theory to execute testing the prove theory to move to fact.
This talk of spinning is the same effect of what is mentioned with the negative / postive flux intertwining.

Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: infringer on July 01, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
well we cannot doubt the hutchinson effect...

Sound is proven to levitate objects without a doubt...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: NickZ on July 02, 2010, 07:20:27 AM
  GK & Infringer:  Great posts guys.  Nice!
  I stumbled on the following article on -Scalar Technologies- and thought that it might fit in:
http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/fringe/gravity_anti_gravity/scalar1.html
   It goes along with my ideas:
  " Scalar is a means of engineering a controled vortex to produce a desired effect. Using scalar technology we can produce an Aether pump (Aether diode) with control. This means that we can
produce a gravity point, and everything within our field will fall to that point, without affecting the normal gravity field of the planet, since our new field overides the earths field". 
  Open ended Vortex Theory- on Propulsion Technology, as well as electrical production,
 out of the dence solution of space.
                                                  NZ
 





 
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: NickZ on July 02, 2010, 05:53:59 PM
   @ GK: 
   Magnetic Flux Line Controls:
(OAHSPE -page 568 on)  It's good to read that part of the book as it reinforces that type of not curently accepted reality about our planet.
  What is still being taught in school has already been disproved, but still being taught as reality.
 Example:  That light and heat are coming from the Sun to our planet.  When there is only darkness and extreme cold between our world and the sun. Once Outside the planets vortex (that is making it's own light on the side that is facing towards the Sun).    Also that light travels,  when there is no movement at all in light, but instead a rate of polarization of light, when refering to  the speed of light.  So, why are we being taught these things as reality, when the Nasa knows very well that its not true, and has known it for years.
Makes me wonder...

    Keely mentioned the use of not only Harmonic but also Inharmonic Frequencies. 
The normal Aether condition in equilibrium needs a DISRUPTION in order to produce the results that we're looking for. That's where the combined use of inharmonic wave pulse may come in.
  SM also mentioned to throw the most disruptive combination of pulses that we can at the device.
 
   Vortexian waves erroniously called Gravity Waves flow one way, Towards the center of a Vortex or the Earth, and then out throught the poles. Some vortexes are open ended, and not all are closed,
  The  Aether Diode idea may be a way to tap that gravity wave flow, and draw out useful power.  I'll will study further on that, and see if there may be something usefull to it.   
  As we can see, each frequency or vibration is so intricate and very different in its effect and its form of flow pattern... if we miss the right combination by just a little bit, we get nothing at all,  just like with a radio signal.  But I feel like there must be an true example in nature to prove the point, like with the thunderheads analogy perhaps, or....
  Good luck with your tests.
                                         NZ
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: sparks on July 12, 2010, 02:12:39 AM
  If we learned how to attenuate the cosmic background radiation waves in an antennae or large crystal we could travel most anywhere in the Universe and have a constant scource of power.  The scource of this emwave energy is unknown as it appears to be emitted from the vacuum of space itself.  I look at it this way.  There was some sort of event that caused what we call the Universe to inflate like a balloon.   Mass is just the remnants of the uninflated or condensed universe inside the expanding balloon.  As the balloon expands the internal pressure drops and everything gets cooler.  The balloon gas is around 2.7degrees k around here.  We are moving relavent to this gas as proven by the doppler frequency shift of the cmbr in a vector determined by the milkyway galaxy travel as a whole. The nearest apparent remnant not inflating would be our galaxtic core.  It persists and resists inflation as it embodies the force which concentrated the primeval heat or vibrations in what I believe to be a continous cycle of condensation and inflation as the power of the universe breathes  Does a blackhole feel another blackholes attraction.  Is there a network of filaments connecting all that was so that it can retain the information and become it again.   These filaments able to be tugged at and the whole deal collapses into what it was.   Time and space contracting back into before the beginning at will as the power at the helm decides to try it again and see what happens this time with creation.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 12, 2010, 06:27:26 AM
well we cannot doubt the hutchinson effect...

Sound is proven to levitate objects without a doubt...

i once met a group of tibetan monks who hummed (moaned) in chorus, along side oddly assymetrical instruments that make a bass sax sound like a mouse.

the ceremony they created, i can only describe as a display of boulders dancing in the night sky...... you could feel the atmosphere moving on your skin, and im quite certain if a man stepped inside the center circle, he too would have flown.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: Cherryman on July 12, 2010, 07:20:58 PM
i once met a group of tibetan monks who hummed (moaned) in chorus, along side oddly assymetrical instruments that make a bass sax sound like a mouse.

the ceremony they created, i can only describe as a display of boulders dancing in the night sky...... you could feel the atmosphere moving on your skin, and im quite certain if a man stepped inside the center circle, he too would have flown.

You may have witnessed something very ancient and mysterious!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation06.html
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: infringer on July 13, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
well india's monks were caught cheating not too long ago I dunno chris angel or david coperfield ring a bell?

Any magician with a good act looks downright holy!
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 24, 2015, 01:43:50 AM
The main thread I use is "UFO propu".
http://overunity.com/15077/ufo-propu-engine-closed-loop/#.Vds9gDZRFy0

The attached diagram contained the main points:

1.  The late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin was the first person who proposed that gravitational energy can be lead-out via a pulsed pendulum.  If gravitational energy can be lead-out, so can magnetic and electromagnetic energy.

2.  The simple magnetic repulsion experiment can conclusively confirm that Output Gravitational Energy can be greater than Input Electrical Energy.  The Input Electrical Energy aligned the tiny magnets of the iron-core to provide the lead-out energy.

3. The higher the angular velocity, the higher will be the centrifugal force.  If an object moves at higher angular velocity in the top part of a circle and slower at the bottom part, it will produce a net upward thrust.  This was coined the King David Sling technology by some Christians.

China and USA already produced UFOs using such technology.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor was funded by Mr. Andrew Wong of Hong Kong and developed in USA.  When will China or USA disclose the top secret?

Divine Wine flows...

Lawrence Tseung
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 25, 2015, 07:40:13 PM
The proposal from Prof. Dennis Leung of Hong Kong University:

1.  Break the project down into  many small student projects.
2.  Let the students compete and shine.
3.  The first experiment will be the vertical tube magnet/coil repulsion.
4.  Try to achieve the highest COP.  Even if COP could not be greater than 1, it would still be a good learning experience (use of DSO, best electromagnet, pulsing techniques, tuning etc.)
5.  The preliminary tests showed that COP was greater than 1.  Same electrical energy input, iron-core produced magnetic field hundreds times more powerful than air-core.
6.  The COP greater than 1 experiments will already be a big scientific breakthrough.  It must be proved beyond any possible doubt.  The present estimate for the scientific paper is 6 to 12 months...

7.  The next experiment is likely to be determining the net thrust due to varying angular velocity.
8.  The competition is likely to be generating the highest net thrust horizontally first.

9.  The last academic experiment is likely to be a demonstration of a lead-out energy flying saucer.
10.  Rumor was that the Nanjing UFO shown on YouTube in Oct, 2006 was done by the Chinese Military and accidentally flew over Nanjing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_OH6nu7V8

Scientists and engineers in Hong Kong will have much to do...

Lawrence Tseung
 
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 25, 2015, 07:54:48 PM
NO upward thrust!
Drive down electromagnetic force.
the two forces cancel each other out.

Impact-back effect.
Newton's law.

Please study the youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_yMdmavq_U

The inventor already achieved net thrust via centrifugal force.  He used a much more complicated mechanism.

Experimental proof will tell the scientific truth.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 26, 2015, 02:00:12 AM
The second experiment is to determine the net thrust.

The trick is to turn the pulse on when the permanent magnet moves to the exact position of the wheel.  There is a relatively simple solution.  We can use either a contact switch or a non-contact switch.

This experiment can be performed as a separate project.  The students can compete on getting the highest net thrust with some conditions.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ingyenenergiagep on August 26, 2015, 08:13:12 PM
http://overunity.com/6387/inertia-drive/30/

http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/images/Fundamental%20Anomaly.jpg

Opposite turning wheels: no turning effect-> linear force and motion.

Mass arms rotate down outside with 90 degree acceleration: force up, antigravity.
Mass arm rotate up inside with 90 degree deceleration: force up, antigravity.

90 deg acc down, 90 deg permanent speed, 90 deg dec up, 90 deg low permanent speed, and this again and again.
Give me the Nobel prize.
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http://overunity.com/6387/inertia-drive/dlattach/attach/127458/
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on August 26, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
Hi folks, Hi ltseung888, i like your ideas, though do you think when the electromagnet pulses and pushes the weighted magnet away, will this cause a force equal in the opposite direction or do you think it will be less than what is gained by the thrust of the higher speed weight at the top.
It would be awesome if this idea works.
Thanks.
peace love light
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 27, 2015, 01:04:21 AM
Hi folks, Hi ltseung888, i like your ideas, though do you think when the electromagnet pulses and pushes the weighted magnet away, will this cause a force equal in the opposite direction or do you think it will be less than what is gained by the thrust of the higher speed weight at the top.
It would be awesome if this idea works.
Thanks.
peace love light

Study the attached diagram and experiment.  This and its variations were well known and used...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on August 27, 2015, 09:25:37 AM
Hi ltseung888, thanks for sharing the information.
I do remember those tests, was just wondering how it plays out with the setup i commented on using centrifugal force.
peace love light
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: joel321 on August 27, 2015, 10:21:37 AM
Itseung888, I hope you have time to watch this video https://youtu.be/9EPlyiW-xGI which kind of opened my eyes a bit. To me, all is simplistic once you understand the fundamentals.

This video, to me, touches on the roots of what can be an OU device and even what could be a UFO deviceā€¦there is more than 50% that a UFO does exists..the ONLY question is, how do they work? NOT IF THERE IS ONE :)

I think is has been proven enough that a magnet does not have an equal and opposite polarities. Putting a magnet inside a vacuum, it will walk. This walking depends on where it wants to go but it will walk. NOW THINK ABOUT IT, is a NEUTRINO influenced by magnetism too? WHAT CAUSES A NEUTRINO TO MOVE ANY DIRECTION? gravity? The big bang? light? One has to understand that a NEUTRINO basically can go to all waves of matter, or is it, matter of waves? or maybe a multiverse? :)
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 28, 2015, 02:04:55 AM
Hi ltseung888, thanks for sharing the information.
I do remember those tests, was just wondering how it plays out with the setup i commented on using centrifugal force.
peace love light

It is time to go beyond the resources of a retiree.  The first academic institution to take on scientific experiments is Hong Kong University.

The resources of a retiree is like rowing a boat across the Pacific.  Any wave will sink the boat.  The resources of Hong Kong University is like a large ship with proper engines.  The resources of a Country such as China or USA is like huge ocean liners with the most modern equipment.  Crossing the Pacific is a piece of cake.

Attached is the draft presentation file planned on Sept. 3 at HKU for the use of the preparation team.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 29, 2015, 08:02:02 PM
Discussion with other fishermen at the fishing pond.

Fisherman 1: "Your lead-out energy flying saucer is interesting.  I heard about it two months ago.  What is the latest progress?"

Tseung: "We did the demo on the vertical tube magnet-coil repulsion experiment at Hong Kong University.  Professor Dennis Leung and his students will improve and turn that into a proper scientific paper.  We are working on the second project to measure the net thrust as in the ninth design of the flying saucer."

Fisherman 2: "This is the first time I saw information from you.  But I do believe in UFOs.  You gave a plausible scientific explanation of how it would work."

Fisherman 1: "The USA and Chinese Governments so far have not disclosed their UFO research activities.  I believe the Official line is that no UFO ever existed."

Fisherman 3: "Do you still believe in Governments or Politicians?"

There was laughter...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on August 30, 2015, 08:55:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRiJeIO49eg

UFO sighting...

Made in USA?  Made in China?  Made in XXX?
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: SoManyWires on August 31, 2015, 10:04:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRiJeIO49eg

UFO sighting...

Made in USA?  Made in China?  Made in XXX?

it appears to be vulcan. a sub atmospheric ship.
lifeforms detected, there is an away team on board.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on September 01, 2015, 10:10:43 PM
My task is NOT to build another flying saucer.

My task to find a plausible explanation for the many UFOs that are already flying...

The presentation in 2006 at Tsinghua University was sufficient...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on September 02, 2015, 02:02:11 PM
The Hong Kong University Students and Research Assistants will be able to do proper scientific data gathering.  There is no time pressure.  UFOs made in China and USA are flying.

All they need is to publish papers on reproducible experiments.  They will publish results showing Input Electrical Energy and Output Potential Energy...

They will show different iron-core coils with different windings and current.  Others can replicate and confirms...

COP > 1 will be considered as big fish.  How big?  Students can compete for the glory...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on September 09, 2015, 08:15:59 PM
The Ferrite Core Coil.

Does the Input Electrical Energy align the tiny magnets of the ferrite material to provide the much stronger magnetic field?

Is that a form of lead-out energy?

Catching the Big Fish (COP > 1) needs more turns and better ferrite rods with same current...

It is time to plan on the Competition.  The measurement of Input Electrical Energy via the DSO has been laid down.  The measurement of Output Potential Energy via the jumping coil has been laid down.  The elements to get highest magnetic field are identified: more turns, better ferrite rods, bigger diameter coils and higher current.

The new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucer is inevitable.  China and USA military may not want to disclose the top secret.  But we should do it for the better good of mankind.  With the new paradigm, there will be enough energy, food, knowledge to sustain a closer world.  The lead-out energy flying saucer will make transportation easier and space travel will not be a problem.

The late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin waited and we have to complete his work while he lies in his grave.  Lawrence Tseung must take the risks and start the competition before he joins Mr. Lee in the next world...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on September 10, 2015, 01:47:50 AM
Why China and USA are not disclosing the top secret?

One comment:
"The World is in a Global Economic War.  We are now familiar with the Currency War.  But there is a Big Fish eating Small Fish war going on.  These fishes are the fund managers."

"Some Big Fishes are forcing the stock markets down.  Previously, many fund managers believe that when Countries circulate more money, the financial assets are bound to go up.  They bet on the stock up side."

"The Big Fishes are using a killing strategy.  They not only bet on the side of a down market but they also push the market down.  One new technique they are using is to deposit money with the Fund Managers.  The Fund Managers invests in the stock market.  They then withdraw the money, forcing the money managers to sell the stock cheap."

"When the stock market keeps going down for some months, many small money managers will show red and some may even cheat - cook the books.  Then there will be confidence crisis.  The small fishes will be eaten.  The Market will shoot up again..."

What can the small fishes do?  Will Governments step in again???

If Lead-out energy flying saucer is a reality, what will be the new paradigm?  Will technology win the financial war???
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on September 11, 2015, 12:12:26 PM
The weekly fishing trip.

Catching the big ones are no longer problems.  Will the Hong Kong University Students do better?

It will be fun...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on October 11, 2015, 05:48:29 AM
Who can turn the lead-out energy flying saucer theory into commercial products?

A retired physicist cannot do it.  A few eager students have a better chance.

The likely candidates are the Government Backed Institutes.  Examples include Japan Inc., Israel Inc., Korea Inc., Taiwan Inc., Singapore Inc., etc.

Many are looking for innovations...

I expect USA and Chinese Governments will disclose their top secrets only after other Nations disclosed them.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on October 11, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Dreaming about the Late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin and what he said.

1.  Lee was associated with the Chinese Military.  He was the first person who claimed that the pulsed pendulum could lead-out gravitational energy.

2.  Lee coordinated my visit to Tsinghua University; introduced me to Mr. Andrew Wong who funded the 225 HP Pulse Motor; got personal meetings with Mr. Wang Shen He who invented the all magnet motor and Mr. Laing Sing Yan who invented the 188 HP car.

3.  Lee told me that I was suspected as a US spy after the Tsinghua Trip because I explained the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier theory to the US team.

4.  Lee told me that the Nanjing UFO video on youtube was created by a Military Institution.  All my work since 2006 were just kindergarten stuff until the ninth flying saucer design.

5.  The right approach is to link the lead-out energy flying saucer technology with Meaningful Economic Activities.  With technology alone, a Nation may gain such superiority that it could conquer and enslave other Nations.  That happened with the West with the Industrial Revolution.  Many Westerners still believe Greed is good.

6.  At the back of their minds, continued military superiority is an absolute necessity.  Without that superiority, the conquered Nations might take revenge.  The weapons will no longer be swords, guns, ships, airplanes or missiles.  The battlefields will no longer be National Boundaries.  Destructions will come to the masses in cities and villages massively.

7.  The lead-out energy flying saucer may possibly destroy all existing military superiority.  The comparison is arrows verses bullets.  That is why the technology is a top secret.

8.  If Meaningful Economic Activities are introduced at the same time, the human mind may see the new paradigm in a positive light.  If a Nation wants more comfort or Modern Wealth, it does not need to rob or conquer.  It can increase the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.

9.  A neutral and small Nation such as Singapore may be a better place to introduce the lead-out energy flying saucer technology than the big Nations with histories of conquests...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on October 13, 2015, 12:19:14 AM
Meaningful Economic Activities

For me, discussing the lead-out energy flying saucer is Meaningful.

For others, organizing a party for the Senior Citizens is Meaningful.

For others, talking about the Economic Changes in China is meaningful.  Their main point is the shift from manufacturing, exports, investment to consumer markets.  China does not need to be a factory to produce goods for other Nations.  China can now pour more resources in producing goods and services for its own citizens.

For some investment managers, talking about investing in developing countries is Meaningful.  Many developing countries will benefit from existing technologies.  It is a matter of infrastructure planning, introducing modern farming techniques; setting up factories; buying the resultant products etc.

The Economy of China boomed in the last few decades because the individuals have a chance to develop what is Meaningful to them and to the rest of the community.  The Government provides the stability and the policies to facilitate such Meaningful Economic Activities.

After the Second World War, many countries prospered without the need to rob or conquer.  They just increase their Meaningful Economic Activities - Germany, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.  Some places such as Macau use their special edge - gambling industry.

Many Countries use technology as their Meaningful Economic Activities - USA uses Internet, Windows, iphones etc.  Japan uses its edge in cars and consumer electronics.

If China releases the lead-out energy flying saucer technology to civilian use, it can easily maintain double digit economic growth for the foreseeable future...

If a small, neutral Country such as Singapore demonstrates the first commercial lead-out energy flying saucer, that Meaningful Economic Activity will be copied and improved rapidly.  Many developing Nations will be developed in a pace faster than China.

How can we make sure that the technology is not put into evil use?

Divine Wine is to be shared.
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: John.K1 on October 13, 2015, 12:52:27 AM

How can we make sure that the technology is not put into evil use?

Divine Wine is to be shared.

Itseu, I think you are too much focus on "What will be"  You as a Chinese ( I guess, sorry if not) you should know the life is always balanced (Jin / jang).

The technology you speak about is just next evolution and less dangerous than the tool people has in hand already , and which can wipe us all from this planet - Nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on October 13, 2015, 02:14:23 PM
Itseu, I think you are too much focus on "What will be"  You as a Chinese ( I guess, sorry if not) you should know the life is always balanced (Jin / jang).

The technology you speak about is just next evolution and less dangerous than the tool people has in hand already , and which can wipe us all from this planet - Nuclear weapons.

The technology is the delivery mechanism for the Nuclear weapons.

One possibility not mentioned is the unlimited energy converted to laser beams.  When a vessel never runs out of ammunition, it will represent a jump in weapon technology.

I agree that the lead-out energy flying saucer potentially delivers more benefits to the human race.  But we have to increase the Meaningful Economic Activities for every Nation now - so they have something to lose if they use it for evil.  A Nation enjoying the comforts of good food, clothing, transport, education, entertainment, etc.  will not risk losing such in a nuclear war...

But a Nation with hatred or revenge in its heart may contemplate the unthinkable...
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on October 15, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
The attached file has been sent to multiple places for quote.  The important part is the electromagnet at the bottom.

The top coil can be lighter, less number of turns.  It is used to measure the jumping height only.

There is no urgency.  We can wait for the quote from the many possible experimenters.

Flying saucers are hovering already...

*** One comment:
Any electromagnet manufacturer can do the proposed experiment.  They do not need to do any wiring.  They just need to choose two appropriate electromagnets and do the experiment.

Thank you for the Internet.  Open sourcing and openly discussing the experiment has its virtues.  I may not need to pay any experimenters...

***** Almost every Nation has electromagnet manufacturers or retailers.  This means all Nations can do the experiment.  Is this the will of the Almighty?  No Nation will have the dominance.  If this experiment is performed and verified by all Nations, can all Nations do the King David Sling Experiment next???
Title: Re: UFO propulsion theory....
Post by: ltseung888 on November 13, 2015, 10:01:21 AM
Fishing on Friday the thirteen (Oct. 13, 2015)

Taught the technique to another fisherman.

He was successful in catching one.  He lost one when he used a thin line.

He would not go hungry...