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UFO propulsion theory....
« on: June 18, 2010, 05:21:40 AM »
Mixing, mashing, and banging ideas in my head I have plenty of ideas many I never share because I feel them to be profound or simply profoundly stupid but I believe I will soon change my course.... There is no idea too stupid one idea can lead to another idea and maybe several after that we attain something of value.

Black holes are interesting pieces in space... Many speculate much about them mainly Stephen Hawking. He is as in depth as they come. All of this is comes from memory and is simply theory that follows so if I am wrong please do correct me in the continued portion of this.

People speculate black holes to be mass compacted into a very small space, different things are believed to cause this. The death of a star is one of these things. So basically if we had a grain of sand that weighs a ton essentially this may be the makings of a black hole. maybe it would even take far less weight for a grain of sand I am really unsure.

Now if I also am correct it is said that negative particles are collected and protons ejected on to the event horizon...

My speculation from these conclusions are like this:
Black holes are simply create the conditions of antimatter as it sucks in these negative particles it is working like anti matter and all of the energy is contained by this black hole after all the forces of gravity are so great that not even light can escape the depths and it completely bends space and time.

The mass is 100% converted into energy without losses.

Now if we could take our grain of sand and somehow start the conditions for a black hole and contain it via some means which I will leave for others to work out maybe a full circle of negative magnets facing the negative poles and all the energy positive protons on the event horizon keeping it apart there is surely enough trash in landfills to throw into the black hole. Heck our waste alone may run the ship from here to where ever. If we were to then collect the energy from the event horizon I believe we may have some crazy amount of energy to use.

This is my way out there wild theory on propulsion of ufos.

One other thing that has brought me to this theory is at the center of many flying disc UFOs there seems to be a black spot it somehow reminds me of a galaxy with the black hole at the center even in the smoking gun videos it appears that the near see through crafts have a difference at the center. The other odd thing is it looks as if they are a pizza with a tiny slice taken out. Just observations.

IF YOU LOVE OR HATE THIS IDEA PLEASE DO SHARE WITH ME WHY OR WHY NOT?

It took a lot for me to even come up with a plausible theory!

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UFO propulsion theory....
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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 05:57:13 PM »
Nassim Haramein holds the theory that black holes have a white hole on the other side. Black compression, white expansion.
When we see expansion, we associate that with having missed the Big Bang. The latter being a moment, rather than a duration (white hole).

To extract mega energy, to be wirelessly transmitted (proven possible by Dr. Stiffler), you could locate 2 asteroids at different, but nearly colliding paths. Span a wire, stick it on the one, and put the coil on the other. Energy to be extracting (the wire being pulled) equavalent to the resulting mass*velocity vector of the 2 asteroids. I know, impossible, but there's A LOT of conventional energy out there not being harvested.

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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 10:05:27 PM »
One other thing that has brought me to this theory is at the center of many flying disc UFOs there seems to be a black spot it somehow reminds me of a galaxy with the black hole at the center even in the smoking gun videos it appears that the near see through crafts have a difference at the center. The other odd thing is it looks as if they are a pizza with a tiny slice taken out. Just observations.

Good observation!

That tiny slice that is taken out is more than likely due to an inverted field.  This tiny slice taken out can be seen in the objects shown in Nasa's Tether incident experiment.  Below is a picture of an inverted field by removing a piece of the magnet.  Here's an excellent video demonstrating the effects of an inverted field in a HPM, http://www.andrijar.com/homavi/motor.wmv

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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 07:24:52 PM »
Interesting read by Keely which was kinda along the lines of my theory in a way thought I would share...


Speculation on Keely and his method of anti-gravity focuses on 2 areas.
For Thrust (or levitation)
An artificial neutral center is created which causes the natural neutral center of the test mass to be drawn towards the artificial center with an attraction proportional to the energy flowing through the artificial neutral center.:For Weight Increase or aggregation of additional mass:When the artificial neutral center is superposed onto the natural center, the aether flows increase proportionate to the entraining amplitudes flowing through the artificial neutral center thus causing an increase in weight and a gradual INCREASE in the mass density.
For Levitation
A wire or ring is placed around the object. The ring is fed with a frequency that resonates with the neutral center of the mass. Such a resonance, properly directed can cause what Keely calls "high vortex action" to decrease or increase the aether flow through the mass neutral center. This flow creates the equivalent of a soliton, or a self-contained standing wave' with extremely high rotational velocities on the perimeter of the mass. Such a flow directly controls the "weight" of the mass by exceeding the Flotte 'Z' axis or better stated, by creating a higher potential in the mass aggregate than that of the surrounding media for ejection of the mass to one more favorable to its energetic level.
Keely also reported a cooling effect of the local air when the anti-grav effect was in operation (likely an ion wind).
Cavitation, Implosion, Water Hammer Effect
There is a connection between Viktor Schauberger's biological vacuum, and Keely's Neutral. Dale Pond has studied this up to a point.
Viktor Schauberger (or Callum Coats, translating Viktor's work) has referred to Keely a few times in his writings.
About a century ago, John Worrell Keely figured out how to run a motor on the power of cavitation or implosion, while alternately compressing and expanding water. He harnessed that we dismiss as nuisance- the water hammer- in water pipes. Dale Pond, researcher of Keely's physics, says that Keely's Hydro-Vacuo motor created a water hammer shock wave which when synchronized with the wave's echo, "results in Amplitude Additive Synthesis, a process which tremendously increased energy accumulations in quick order." Pond warns that this resonance amplification is similar to the process, which breaks wine glasses. from http://www.emfsafe.com/implosion/water.htm
A valve closing in 1.5 sec. or less depending upon valve size and system conditions, causes an abrupt stoppage of flow. The pressure spike(acoustic wave)created at rapid valve closure can be high as five(5) times the system working pressure. from > http://www.plastomatic.com/water-hammer.html
Dale Pond, in the SVP basics video, claims that John Worrell Keely's etheric forces and Neutral Center, have a lot to do with cavitation, or implosion, or the water-hammer effect. This water-hammer-effect is what they try and NOT do in normal engineering. same with vibration, again.
Callum Coats
in Living Energies, Callum Coats prints these estimates by Keely:
Molecular Vibrations 100,000,000 per second
Inter-molecular vibrations 300,000,000 per second
Atomic Vibrations 900,000,000 per second
Inter-atomic Vibrations 2,700,000,000 per second
Aetheric Vibrations 8,100,000,000 per second
Inter-aetheric Vibrations at 24,300,000,000 per second
Home-grown sine-wave experiments for software musicians
Punch in Keely frequencies 620hz, 630hz and 12,000hz, run through oscilloscope and watch.
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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 12:08:55 AM »
I put 620hz, 630hz, 12khz into gnaural2 as 3 base frequencies.
I will also put this into my 3 frequency control system tonight and scope it.
I will also put this into my Sound Heterodyning Interference Transmitter (trinity device). I need to add a line out muxed with the 3 channels for larger audio and driver output amplifiers.

So far in Gnaural2 I like what I hear. Listen for 5 minutes then shut off and there is a tiny, tinny echo after short sounds in your hearing.

I muxed the 3 square wave freqs into one output and scoped it. The 12khz shows up in blocks that move slowly from right to left. Precession. Same would happen with sine waves.
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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 06:31:29 AM »
Back to the future; Flux capacitor. Yes it is a misnomer. Yes you are biased. Yes they are two different concepts created in two different way. Yes I am VERY board with the nonsense that has been offered by the general population (You).
Combine the two concepts (Flux, Capacitor). According to theory, what happens?
I'll even throw in some explanation for the nincompoops; Electric charges move in an electric field. A magnetic field deflects a moving charge. (Think AC.)
Tesla is rolling over in his grave and so is my Grandpa (Yes, he was a professor.)

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 06:50:46 AM »
Excuse me. Tesla was actually a doctor.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 06:06:11 PM »
I put 620hz, 630hz, 12khz into gnaural2 as 3 base frequencies.
I will also put this into my 3 frequency control system tonight and scope it.
I will also put this into my Sound Heterodyning Interference Transmitter (trinity device). I need to add a line out muxed with the 3 channels for larger audio and driver output amplifiers.

So far in Gnaural2 I like what I hear. Listen for 5 minutes then shut off and there is a tiny, tinny echo after short sounds in your hearing.

I muxed the 3 square wave freqs into one output and scoped it. The 12khz shows up in blocks that move slowly from right to left. Precession. Same would happen with sine waves.

Channel 1 = 620hz
Channel 2 = 630hz
Channel 3 = 12khz
Travel direction on scope is right to left.

Tonight I flip the channel 1 and channel 2 signals to see the directional change. Should have done this at the test.


This thread could use concrete examples of using theory to execute testing the prove theory to move to fact.
This talk of spinning is the same effect of what is mentioned with the negative / postive flux intertwining.


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Re: UFO propulsion theory....
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 06:32:23 AM »
well we cannot doubt the hutchinson effect...

Sound is proven to levitate objects without a doubt...

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 07:20:27 AM »
  GK & Infringer:  Great posts guys.  Nice!
  I stumbled on the following article on -Scalar Technologies- and thought that it might fit in:
http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/fringe/gravity_anti_gravity/scalar1.html
   It goes along with my ideas:
  " Scalar is a means of engineering a controled vortex to produce a desired effect. Using scalar technology we can produce an Aether pump (Aether diode) with control. This means that we can
produce a gravity point, and everything within our field will fall to that point, without affecting the normal gravity field of the planet, since our new field overides the earths field". 
  Open ended Vortex Theory- on Propulsion Technology, as well as electrical production,
 out of the dence solution of space.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 05:53:59 PM »
   @ GK: 
   Magnetic Flux Line Controls:
(OAHSPE -page 568 on)  It's good to read that part of the book as it reinforces that type of not curently accepted reality about our planet.
  What is still being taught in school has already been disproved, but still being taught as reality.
 Example:  That light and heat are coming from the Sun to our planet.  When there is only darkness and extreme cold between our world and the sun. Once Outside the planets vortex (that is making it's own light on the side that is facing towards the Sun).    Also that light travels,  when there is no movement at all in light, but instead a rate of polarization of light, when refering to  the speed of light.  So, why are we being taught these things as reality, when the Nasa knows very well that its not true, and has known it for years.
Makes me wonder...

    Keely mentioned the use of not only Harmonic but also Inharmonic Frequencies. 
The normal Aether condition in equilibrium needs a DISRUPTION in order to produce the results that we're looking for. That's where the combined use of inharmonic wave pulse may come in.
  SM also mentioned to throw the most disruptive combination of pulses that we can at the device.
 
   Vortexian waves erroniously called Gravity Waves flow one way, Towards the center of a Vortex or the Earth, and then out throught the poles. Some vortexes are open ended, and not all are closed,
  The  Aether Diode idea may be a way to tap that gravity wave flow, and draw out useful power.  I'll will study further on that, and see if there may be something usefull to it.   
  As we can see, each frequency or vibration is so intricate and very different in its effect and its form of flow pattern... if we miss the right combination by just a little bit, we get nothing at all,  just like with a radio signal.  But I feel like there must be an true example in nature to prove the point, like with the thunderheads analogy perhaps, or....
  Good luck with your tests.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2010, 02:12:39 AM »
  If we learned how to attenuate the cosmic background radiation waves in an antennae or large crystal we could travel most anywhere in the Universe and have a constant scource of power.  The scource of this emwave energy is unknown as it appears to be emitted from the vacuum of space itself.  I look at it this way.  There was some sort of event that caused what we call the Universe to inflate like a balloon.   Mass is just the remnants of the uninflated or condensed universe inside the expanding balloon.  As the balloon expands the internal pressure drops and everything gets cooler.  The balloon gas is around 2.7degrees k around here.  We are moving relavent to this gas as proven by the doppler frequency shift of the cmbr in a vector determined by the milkyway galaxy travel as a whole. The nearest apparent remnant not inflating would be our galaxtic core.  It persists and resists inflation as it embodies the force which concentrated the primeval heat or vibrations in what I believe to be a continous cycle of condensation and inflation as the power of the universe breathes  Does a blackhole feel another blackholes attraction.  Is there a network of filaments connecting all that was so that it can retain the information and become it again.   These filaments able to be tugged at and the whole deal collapses into what it was.   Time and space contracting back into before the beginning at will as the power at the helm decides to try it again and see what happens this time with creation.

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2010, 06:27:26 AM »
well we cannot doubt the hutchinson effect...

Sound is proven to levitate objects without a doubt...

i once met a group of tibetan monks who hummed (moaned) in chorus, along side oddly assymetrical instruments that make a bass sax sound like a mouse.

the ceremony they created, i can only describe as a display of boulders dancing in the night sky...... you could feel the atmosphere moving on your skin, and im quite certain if a man stepped inside the center circle, he too would have flown.

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2010, 07:20:58 PM »
i once met a group of tibetan monks who hummed (moaned) in chorus, along side oddly assymetrical instruments that make a bass sax sound like a mouse.

the ceremony they created, i can only describe as a display of boulders dancing in the night sky...... you could feel the atmosphere moving on your skin, and im quite certain if a man stepped inside the center circle, he too would have flown.

You may have witnessed something very ancient and mysterious!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation03.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/02files/Levitation06.html

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