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Offline lasersaber

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Working Air Battery
« on: June 08, 2010, 05:39:33 PM »
Hi Everybody,

I have been testing my air battery designs since May 10, 2010.  I have now started getting ready to take the next step.  I have some large 3 inch carbon rods on order and I plan on making some serious long term power with these.  I will post my progress in this thread.  I will also be making a video showing how to make these in the near future.

Check out my video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8wk8a_-D1A

Check out my other videos for more information on my previous designs.

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Working Air Battery
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Offline JamesThomas

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 07:04:32 PM »
Lasersaber,

Thanks for your post. I have been watching your videos and subscribed.

You make great videos that are clear, well lit and a joy to watch. You also have an exceptional talent explaining and demonstrating what you are doing. I strongly suggest people visit you on YouTube and checkout your work.  Also the subject matter is very intriguing and the simplicity of the devices and batteries you have chosen to work with (and improve on) makes it very motivating to do the same.

Thanks again.
jt

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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 07:06:12 PM »
Very well done.  That is good light you are getting from that cfl.  I am looking forward to following your progress.

Bill

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 01:48:34 AM »
great work! im looking farward for more  :)
keep up the good work.


Offline Mk1

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 01:57:05 AM »
@Lasersaber

Nice work again , are you still using the magnesium ribbon ?

I was thinking some zinc ribbon could deliver more current , it is the highest of the stable elements , a while back some one showed a simple zinc air battery with over 1.5 amps of current , it will also theoretically out last the magnesium ribbon.

The only element capable or producing more current is aluminum but is really unstable and doesn't last long ...

Mark
 

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 01:57:05 AM »
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Offline luishan

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 06:04:23 PM »
Would you try to make an Air Zinc battery.
The battery has more powerful and high density.
You can check it out below link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPXhNnMkpe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLJwtuCQi0c

Offline jeanna

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 07:33:20 PM »
Thank you lasersaber.
This is really great work.

From the first time you introduced the magnesium ribbon to this equation, you have added more and more to the possibilities of these batteries.
I am so impressed.
I am also very pleased that you continue to share your experiments with this crowd.

Oh, and thanks for the next idea on what to do with the rest of those soft cores I bought!  ;D

jeanna

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Offline Mk1

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 11:26:29 PM »
@all

I got a flash idea last night before going to bed , i tried to imagine how NS would to it if he was in my shoes .

To do this , i need to restrict my self to what i have around and not buy anything , and be of my time .

After thinking about it a bit , i took a hard drive plater for use as a anode (palladium is way up there with gold ) it should not deteriorate plus its potential 0 or .05 v compared to copper.35 this means any battery using a copper in the pair could be replaced by the disc and have .3 volts more .

With a wet paper between the disc and a piece of aluminum foil i got .880 and i also tried steel .840. I am contemplating making a iron /palladium cell , that should last long ...

I bet i can use a plater on each side of a steel pancake coil and maybe separate the iron coil windings with a insulated copper wire and pulse that coil with the power of the battery , i have many plater so it can have many layers ...

Mark

   

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2010, 03:53:15 AM »
I got my air battery to light a white led today!!

It was more of a struggle, because the carbon rods broke when I took them out of the ground, so they are 4 1/2 inches short.
They are 1/4 inch diameter too so kind of narrow.

I did as lasersaber did and wrapped the carbon with cotton cloth and then wrapped the magnesium around that.

I did not get this to start with air, so I misted the cloth with water.
It went on and is still on 2 hours later.

I will wait and see, because while putting masking tape around over the magnesium is a great idea for tightness and great contact, if it does not start up, I will break the magnesium ribbon if I remove the tape.
So, that is waiting.

Anyway...
yeay!

The joule thief is one that has a tor-23 toroid and 2, 20(?)  turn secondaries with a led each. one is red and the other is white.

jeanna

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2010, 07:01:08 AM »
I got my air battery to light a white led today!!

It was more of a struggle, because the carbon rods broke when I took them out of the ground, so they are 4 1/2 inches short.
They are 1/4 inch diameter too so kind of narrow.

I did as lasersaber did and wrapped the carbon with cotton cloth and then wrapped the magnesium around that.

I did not get this to start with air, so I misted the cloth with water.
It went on and is still on 2 hours later.

I will wait and see, because while putting masking tape around over the magnesium is a great idea for tightness and great contact, if it does not start up, I will break the magnesium ribbon if I remove the tape.
So, that is waiting.

Anyway...
yeay!

The joule thief is one that has a tor-23 toroid and 2, 20(?)  turn secondaries with a led each. one is red and the other is white.

jeanna

How about using an Ace bandage for tightness and great contact, instead of tape?

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Offline chinmoy1955

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2010, 12:29:43 PM »
Hi Everybody,

I have been testing my air battery designs since May 10, 2010.  I have now started getting ready to take the next step.  I have some large 3 inch carbon rods on order and I plan on making some serious long term power with these.  I will post my progress in this thread.  I will also be making a video showing how to make these in the near future.

Check out my video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8wk8a_-D1A

Check out my other videos for more information on my previous designs.

Dear lasersaber, read your article, saw your video. Sorry to say I could not make out exactly what your experiment is? Sorry, I am a novice. Just what is exactly an Air Battery? What is the principle behind it? I could see some copper coils, soft iron cores, something rotating in the foreground (supposed to be a motor running for 3 days) and a long tube supposed to be the air battery. I will be grateful if you explain the whole stuff and its theory more clearly so that I can also make the thing and post my own results. Or maybe some explicit links to other sites? Thanks

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 06:28:51 PM »
chinmoy1955

I am making a video showing exactly how to build these.  Unfortunately after shooting almost all the video clips they got accidently deleted.  The air batteries I built for the video work very well. I really do not want to take them apart just to remake them for a video.  I decided to order some more graphite rods and video the making process on my next build.  I will try to answer all the questions people have been asking in that future video.

Here is where I bought my graphite rods: http://www.graphitestore.com/itemDetails.asp?search_string=GT001420&search_mode=1&item_id=491&curPage=1

These rods hold one roll of magnesium ribbon perfectly.  It is very important that when you warp on the ribbon you leave a small space between each warp.  I am using paper towel between the graphite rod and the ribbon.  I will post a video soon.




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Re: Working Air Battery
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Offline Localjoe

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2010, 09:09:18 PM »
@lasersaber

              Sweet im thinking about building a couple of these for garage  lights for a buddy, what kinda erosion/decayy would we see on one of these after say a year or so?  Not moistened mind you just in a lake town :) .   And would this magnesium roll be enough to cover the 3 inch rod you showed in the link above

http://www.ecrater.com/p/1984355/1-roll-75-ft-of-magnesium-ribbon-25-grams-998
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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2010, 09:48:50 PM »
I get all my magnesium ribbon from this guy: http://www.mcssl.com/store/gallium-source/magnesium-metal

I may go for his deal on 100 hundred rolls: http://www.mcssl.com/store/gallium-source/048---magnesium-ribbon-100-rolls-free-shipping

$3.25 a roll seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Until I have tested these batteries for over a year I cannot really tell you how long they will last.  It's too soon to know for sure.

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Re: Working Air Battery
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