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Author Topic: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.  (Read 14880 times)

Offline Magluvin

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This is a motor that I have been playing around with for a while when I have time. So far my second to final build had a serious error and the final need to be corrected with custom mags or built according to what is available.
Here are some vids of the idea to get started. My next posts will show some pics of the endeavor thus far.
I think I was just getting burnt out on it. But I feel a session of waves coming in to ride and also give some others a chance to see what I have come up with.   

Mags 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoAEeLQiQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEkSBPMixc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKNZk_ec-k


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Offline Magluvin

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This vid was of the had made build that was flawed by 2 stators being engaged with the rotor at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bukk8EhYg8

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When the stator mags are in a position the the poles are aiming horizontal, they have very little affect on the rotor mags which have their poles vertical, until the angle is changed thus changing the polarity of the stator causing rotor movement

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One more vid of the mech close up in action. The latches were necessary to hold the mag in position till the next switch. The spring are from lock tumblers from a lock smith. Each stator operated the same as the others. Some of my best work.

Mags

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4JXgEQEnYY


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Here is a graphic representation of the switching cycle. If you look carefully, all mags are in a positive push/pull situation in relation to near magnets, other than the stator that is about to be switched in relation to the rotor mag approaching it.  And also a pic of all the parts before assy. All the screws are torx machine from a few hard drive scavengings.  The white plastic parts are made from 1/16 and 1/8 in. pvc panels from a hobby shop.
All parts were hand made using fine jigsaw blades, razor knife and dremel.

Mags

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What's the point.....
This configuration can never become overunity.
I strongly believe any spent development is a waste of time and money.

Not being crude here, just telling you the hard facts of reality.

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I like it! Especially the odd/even ratio, the rotating stators, and latches. Keep up the good work! :bigsmile:

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Offline ramset

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Well
All negative postulations from clinically obese gamblers aside.

Thanks for sharing your hard[and beautiful] work!

Seems like a sound idea !
Still rapping my brain around some of it.

Chet

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Hi Magluvin,

I also agree with the basic idea is good as you showed in videos Part 1 and 2. However when you increased the number of magnets you seem to have a much less attract or repel force between the rotor and stator: why?
What I see is the total mass of the rotor has increased but the smaller magnets you used after Part 2 behave as if they were weak for the job.   Or the mechanical switch bumpings take too much force away from the gained torque, it seems.  Or the distance between the just interacting rotor and stator magnets is too big.  These are what I think. 
Very good and nice workmanship, keep at it!

rgds, Gyula

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Beautiful work!

I was also wondering why you didn't try with your proof-of-principle 2-rotor magnets first - though I'm sure you did!  Care to expand a little on why that didn't work?

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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 08:05:41 PM »
we need more people like you in the world! thank you for sharing! keep up the good work!
open source is the future!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 08:13:51 PM »
Hi Mags

Great looking Rig.

On your first A effect seemed so much better as you simply had two rotor magnets and were pulsing the stator magnet with your hand, which gave better control. But I was surprised how good the kick was.

Why not attach a small low power consumption solenoid to control the stator magnet.

I messed around a few year ago trying different methods and here is a old video I dragged out.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/pulsetest.mpg

As you can see the magnet in attached to the solenoid to this config, but took so much less power to move a permanent magnet, rather than using a coil to pulse the rotor.

But turning a diametricly magnetised looks like a cool effect you have there and you could end up with a pulse motor with no BEMF/CEMF !

Cheers

Sean.


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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 08:21:07 PM »
Thanks All

Sprocket,
The 2 rotor mags and 1 stator did not have enough to push through the switch. So all the other mags are in a positive push/pull situation while the 1 is being switched, thus producing motive force to continue.
In the 7/8 config, there are 56 switchings per revolution of the rotor. Sounds hard to believe as there would be 5600 switches per min in a 100 rpm run, but it all makes sense when you see it in action. But in the 10/9 config I screwed up the timing as in the rotor is making contact with 2 stators at a time instead of 1 thus increasing the work load of switching for the other mags to have to push through.
This thing needs some time and thought. Thats why I am putting it on the table. It is a fresh idea in the pmm world and is worth a looking at by all. =]
The only other idea close to it is the one with the magnet on the seesaw lever that the guy has actuated by a cam on the rotor. Well this is a much better way and it uses both sides of all mags during operation instead of forcing a stator mag above and below the rotor to cause rotor movement.


Mags

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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 08:30:53 PM »
Thanks Clanzer

In the first 2 vids is just showing the basic concept of the stator having very little angle change makes big movement on the rotor. By having the odd/even stator/rotor config, all other mags that are not being switched provide positive force to enable the push through of the switch of the one stator, and then it moves on to the next switch immediately, and so on.
I have had this basic concept for a couple years and just finally did something with it last year. It just needs a bit more refining I believe. Hopefully we can put our minds together and get it going. =]

Mags


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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 08:37:47 PM »
Here is a cam that I had designed to operate the stators early on, but only to find that the drag during the switch was no better than the activation rods on the 9/10 setup. It wouldnt seem so, but it is.
As you can see, the first 2 vids, the stator has a thin rod that was controlled by the cam lever shown in this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gogl_lm_n0A

Mags

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Re: Magluvins Magnet Motor MMM Being released for open source developement.
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