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innovation_station

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2010, 01:25:39 PM »
yes wattsup i have ..  i have scoped it too .. 

it is a lovely bunch of coconuts ..  lol   lol 

now if you force feed it ...  : ) anyhow   those diodes 1000v 3 amp each  120 diodes and there fast recovery rectifier diodes ..

if i had enough i would use microwave diodes .. and i take the hv  spikes and slam it to caps ...

the boost cap im useing can be filled from empty in seconds .. useing 1 of my coils .. the cap is 5800watts at 2.6vdc

i may take a flb and scope it today and produce a video .. just pulseing it by hand with 1.5vdc will WAKE YA UP ! 

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2010, 02:25:57 PM »
As I said before, I am new to this forum. And, I am sorry about the non-sense argument going on. I was expecting a more professional behavior from you, members of this forum.

When I posted “Tesla is the father of the TPU” I did not mean Tesla invented the TPU. The message was that the TPU is a child of the Tesla work, or it is based on Tesla principles. Therefore, SM deserves all the credit. The TPU is novel and non obvious.

What I posted is just a concept, a proposed solution that makes sense based on my research. I was expecting that some members would go out searching for more related information and contribute toward a common goal – to help each other (this world). I was expecting more information, questions, etc. For instance, if there is a load current in the secondary, 1) will the associated magnetic field couple with the primary or middle solid wire? 2) Will the secondary heat up?

BTW, my answer to the questions above is, 1) there would be no magnetic coupling or magnetic influence coming from the secondary coil due to the fact that the magnetic field runs parallel to the primary (middle solid wire), and 2) once loaded, you can expect the secondary to heats up due to Joules losses.

I consider the basic to be the most important – treat each other with respect. It is an emotional common sense that some times does not make sense to us.

PS:
I am really disappointed! I was trying to withdraw my post but I did not know how to do it. This might be my last participation in this forum.

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2010, 03:34:58 PM »
As I said before, I am new to this forum. And, I am sorry about the non-sense argument going on. I was expecting a more professional behavior from you, members of this forum.

When I posted “Tesla is the father of the TPU” I did not mean Tesla invented the TPU. The message was that the TPU is a child of the Tesla work, or it is based on Tesla principles. Therefore, SM deserves all the credit. The TPU is novel and non obvious.

What I posted is just a concept, a proposed solution that makes sense based on my research. I was expecting that some members would go out searching for more related information and contribute toward a common goal – to help each other (this world). I was expecting more information, questions, etc. For instance, if there is a load current in the secondary, 1) will the associated magnetic field couple with the primary or middle solid wire? 2) Will the secondary heat up?

BTW, my answer to the questions above is, 1) there would be no magnetic coupling or magnetic influence coming from the secondary coil due to the fact that the magnetic field runs parallel to the primary (middle solid wire), and 2) once loaded, you can expect the secondary to heats up due to Joules losses.

I consider the basic to be the most important – treat each other with respect. It is an emotional common sense that some times does not make sense to us.

PS:
I am really disappointed! I was trying to withdraw my post but I did not know how to do it. This might be my last participation in this forum.

what is to be dissapointed  ?   i have given you more than you will eat or even dare to !

it is an inductive ballance .. then it is minipulated

take a high inductance coil and a low inductance coil hook it up as a single wire .. and open and close the loop watch the results ... add a neo gap and send it out to a coil transformer and step it down ...

the low inductance coil borrows engery the choke chokes down the cosumed engery you can dubble switch it should you choose ..  so smack it fast ...  the choke resists sudden change .. and the coil pukes !  or BACKFIRES ...

LOL


ist

there is a simpler way .. block it ! lol  diode bridge FORCE IT TO EXIT ALL SECONDARIES..

SO PLAINLY PUT YOU NEED A BLOCKER THAT CAN HANDLE ALL THE FLY BACK THEN SOME ...    and pulse it through the bridge ..  or block it at source and redirrect fly back via RECTIFIER ..  i have drawen all of this in the past moons ago ...   

i use caps as they take the high freqency much better than batteries ... then i switch it to PURE DC IN A FEW CAPS ... AND FEED IT TO BATTERIES AT 3 TO 10 TIMES THE SOURCE VOLTAGE ..

so in my dummy modle where all is super simple .. useing 2.6vdc as a source ...  i will actually charge batteries at 36 volts dc and 6 groups of 3 batteries .. or any combanation i choose ...

regards
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 06:54:07 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2010, 08:52:51 PM »
I thought Marks stumbled across this while working on audio systems. If what he found is actually Tesla's or not, I really don't think it matters. I just want one in my house :)

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2010, 04:46:34 AM »
I just wanted to refer you to the following article. I really enjoyed!

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/51-100/article87_body.html

@Loner
I am not sure if I understood your question. But, if no-load is connected, then, I do not expect any heat up of the secondary coil. If the TPU is heating up with no load, then, the primary coil is overheating. That would make sense with the proposed embodiment because the load on the primary circuit is practically a short circuit (one turn of solid wire). The design of the primary circuit is critical. I would say if the device is overheating at no load, it is more likely we are dealing with a design issue.

I respect other people explanation for explaining unknown energy phenomena by using earth magnetic fields, ether, zero point energy, etc. But, unless someone can explain them to me in way that makes sense, I cannot be a believer. Until now, the reasons for using the above concepts look more like a mathematical justification to a physical phenomenon that is not well understood. The problem I found with the above approach is that it might work on a mathematical model (on paper) but I found them useless for practical implementation.

Thanks and good luck with your experiments.

bajac

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2010, 05:08:13 AM »
I refer you to this:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8185.msg239207#msg239207
It is the iron core posted above this.
This coil charges up with only the postive connected to the fet driver.
I have disconnected all instruments and the batteries. It is essentially one wire in the air. The iron core charges up ambiently to 125vdc after the bridge. If I connect an LED across it the LED pops.

They don't teach this school. I won't do the math.

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2010, 04:42:40 AM »
I would like to add on the following:

It seems that you guys have been trying hard to build a working TPU prototype for some time without success, and I can feel your frustration in some writings.

I found it to be extremely naive to (blinding) believe any information assumed to be coming from SM. It just does not make sense for SM to provide any information related to the functioning and/or construction of the TPU that you can use to build a successful TPU prototype. And, any information coming from SM(?) should be suspicious of being misleading. It is my opinion that SM is not providing any information but the people keeping him under house arrest. I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!

When I saw some efforts to build a TPU with three coils and three frequencies and others with a reel type core, iron core, etc., I immediately knew it will never work. The problem is that the use of any coil based on standard electromagnetic application as found in today’s text books will just not work.

I just feel sorry when I read someone claiming to be close to having a working TPU prototype because he/she is getting and output of 10v, 100v, 100v, 10,000, etc. They all are meaningless data. Unless you can prove to have a power gain, you do not have a working TPU prototype.

One last important topic is about instrumentation. You have to be very careful when measuring RMS and AVERAGE values. I have witnessed so many current and voltage measurements that are very wrong. If it is not a sinusoidal waveform, just because the meter gives you a reading does not mean it is correct. If you have switching devices generating all kinds of non-sinusoidal waveforms, it is advisable to learn the testing equipment limitations by reading the user’s manual or by contacting the testing equipment manufacturer. In many instances, the only way to measure power is through a calorimeter or by using mathematical algorithm on the waveform of the voltage and/or current.

bajac

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2010, 09:58:09 AM »
Hello all,

@bajac

for myself I can say that Im the last 3 years working on a TPU solution. I have spent ALL my free time ( I have a lot of free time!) on my TPU work and all I can say is that Im NOT frustrated. Others are maybe frustrated but not me.
In this time I have learned a lot about coils and people here.

About SM I dont want to wright because we have a "story" about him and I have accepted it because I dont know the real story about him, if there is a real, other story. And my "job" is only to figure out the secret sitting inside and outside a TPU.

I agree with you that with only 3 coils or with iron cores nothing happens. I also agree with you that kicks in the range of 10V - 100 000V gives nothing.

But it seems that you missed something: I HAVE power gain and what do I really have??

A PIECE OF SHIT!!

Power gain is NOT enough!!

You know why??

Im missing the main function of a TPU and that is the MAGIC!!

What means magic??

Ha,ha, I dont know because I have never seen it. Its just a feeling. Years ago I had a runaway. The kicks changed slowly into nice sine waves. Is this the magic? I dont know.

Otto




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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2010, 02:04:11 PM »
Hello all,

@bajac


I agree with you that with only 3 coils or with iron cores nothing happens. I also agree with you that kicks in the range of 10V - 100 000V gives nothing.

But it seems that you missed something: I HAVE power gain and what do I really have??

A PIECE OF SHIT!!


Otto

otto  i do dissagree ... 

with only 10 volts in spikes i have a self refilling cap ...

hummm

 so my unit uses engery and returns MORE .. THAN CONSUMED  hence how it charges the cap while powering the unit 

ist

it runs with gain .. slowly so as it can be understood

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2010, 02:56:15 PM »
Hello all,

sorry, I wasnt clear with my post:

I wanted to say that with only kicks a TPU cant work. In the last 3 years I have fired up my coils with kicks from 10V - 100kV. Result - No magic.

So, my conclusion is that we need something totally different to have a working TPU. Of course we need kicks and ......I dot know what.

Otto


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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2010, 03:23:14 PM »
it is time to ask the question ...  what is the gyro motion of a tpu .. ?

i have an answer .. and it does not have to spin to get this effect !

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2010, 07:10:27 PM »
@!,
You can fill caps with kicks. But the rotation is equivilant to motion. Kick the rotation as it comes around. In synch.

Lidmotor showed a regular coil spinning a neo magnetic inside the spool. It takes alot of current. But what if you hit it at the right time at lower current? This would make the horizontal windings the driver and the vertical windings the collector. I switched the aforementioned coil operation. Because if we are pumping the horizontal magnetic field around the ring and modulating the amplitude that activity would cut across the many wires of the vertical windings, what we call the control. And this would fit in with what Don Smith said about the 'Charge pumping' the power supply. This would also fit the model of DC with hash on it. This would also fit with the cannon ball posts. With a copper core we have an interface between the flux and the copper's internal electrons with no eddy current problems. Less resistance.

In reading about Townsend Brown and Evgeny Podkletnov they both said that when you hit what is in front of the anode with a hard pulse i.e. high voltage and 1 high frequency the interference is fierce and one is able move it. Said another way is you can push it. The frequency they used was 100khz to 1 mega hertz. That is a 555 to a fet. The Fet has a fast enough 'on' transistion time. Like smacking water too hard. It doesnt give way immediately but transmits the pressure (kinetic and audio) quite easily.

The TPU is sub energy wave behavior. The results look somewhat like Deyo's smoke demo showed but we use a toriodal magnetic field to present the medium of control or pathway.

Even though the fluctuations of the field extending radially are parallel with the vertical wires the pulsing actually flies perpendicular to those vertical windings.

The mobius wiring configuration of the GK4 that Otto posted actually interleaves the operation by alternating the vertically and the horizontal operation. That is why it spewed radially.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 07:35:25 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2010, 07:42:15 PM »
sure ..

there much simpler ways that work HAND IN HAND so to speak ..


ist

verry much how push and pull operates ..

1 switch

it ramps and amps non freq dependent !
if done properly you can have the MAGNET SWITCH KICK STARTER  to start the operation of it so in essance you swipe the magnet make a kick .. it goes to a cap .. this cap powers phase 1

ok  hope i havent lost anyone .. 

now  the magnet is THEN PROPERLY OREINTATED TO THE PROPER COIL.. and set there.. to serve as the hall effect amp ..  : )

and i will let your  mind wonder 

i have much better designs aswell

useing a super cap as the source .. you DO NOT NEED THE MAGNET SWITCH KICK STARTER ..  simply pre charge the cap .. then modulate output 1 2 1 2  1 is source feed back  2 is phase 2 supply

« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 08:18:53 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2010, 07:52:58 PM »
@!,
You can fill caps with kicks. But the rotation is equivilant to motion. Kick the rotation as it comes around. In synch.

Lidmotor showed a regular coil spinning a neo magnetic inside the spool. It takes alot of current. But what if you hit it at the right time at lower current? This would make the horizontal windings the driver and the vertical windings the collector. I switched the aforementioned coil operation. Because if we are pumping the horizontal magnetic field around the ring and modulating the amplitude that activity would cut across the many wires of the vertical windings, what we call the control. And this would fit in with what Don Smith said about the 'Charge pumping' the power supply. This would also fit the model of DC with hash on it. This would also fit with the cannon ball posts. With a copper core we have an interface between the flux and the copper's internal electrons with no eddy current problems. Less resistance.

In reading about Townsend Brown and Evgeny Podkletnov they both said that when you hit what is in front of the anode with a hard pulse i.e. high voltage and 1 high frequency the interference is fierce and one is able move it. Said another way is you can push it. The frequency they used was 100khz to 1 mega hertz. That is a 555 to a fet. The Fet has a fast enough 'on' transistion time. Like smacking water too hard. It doesnt give way immediately but transmits the pressure (kinetic and audio) quite easily.

The TPU is sub energy wave behavior. The results look somewhat like Deyo's smoke demo showed but we use a toriodal magnetic field to present the medium of control or pathway.

Even though the fluctuations of the field extending radially are parallel with the vertical wires the pulsing actually flies perpendicular to those vertical windings.

The mobius wiring configuration of the GK4 that Otto posted actually interleaves the operation by alternating the vertically and the horizontal operation. That is why it spewed radially.

dude when modulating .. simply modulate the out put ..

need a video ? : )

i got 1 

2 freq modulation  by hand lol   

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5FmO55sBAU

so .. after viewing my video ..  you send the NORMAL jt SPIKES back to source to replinish .. the LARGE spikes you see are sent to phase 2


b4 you even ask there NO CAPS IN THAT SYSTEM... 
: )

i have seen flying feilds blow things .. it was not visual .. how ever   it was a 1/4 meggawatt diode ..  at a distance of 4 feet from my coil ...  hummmmmm

it pissed me off!  and i never picked up the damm thing agin ..
« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 08:43:44 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Tesla is the father of the TPU
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2010, 08:29:05 PM »
now i have a phase 2 system that runs with gain BIG TIME !

as well i have the video proof to back it up

regards !

it consumes micro amps .. at low volts returning much higher volts ..  in some cases 10 volts VHF  and i mean VHF..

now when taken to full 12vdc supply it consumes 3.1 miliamps  while returning 70 volts  AGIN VERRY HIGH FREQ ..

so  when i charge a 12vdc audio amp super cap of .5 f it runs this unit for close to  1 hour ..  the entire time putting out min 10 volts  if i turn the consumputin up to 40 ma at 12vdc im returned 600v spikes

agin   the same freq ..

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here is a video i speak of this coil ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OvNtS8kEjk
« Last Edit: May 05, 2010, 12:13:13 AM by innovation_station »