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Author Topic: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!  (Read 148542 times)

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #75 on: April 16, 2010, 01:46:16 PM »
  On the motor generator thing I remember seeing a guy doit but the generator was mounted on a disk.  The countertorque on the generator stator was transferred to the drive mechanism using pulleys.  The Earth transfers some of its angular momentum to the moons orbital momentum.  This slows the rotation of the Earth and increases the angular velocity of the moon.   This causes the moons orbit to become more eliptical.  Someday it might just keep on trucking and never come back.  I was dynamometer testing a small 1/6 hp fan motor one day. I didnt bother bolting it down just chucked it and grabbed onto the stator.  My guy was at the load control smiling.  I said give it to it.  He loaded her down.  (The load is created by spinning a large steel disc through electromagnets causing eddy currents by the way)  It took considerable energy on my part to hold onto the stator.  After about 15 seconds I had enough and my guy turned the switch off still smiling.  If the stator I was grabbing had a pulley on it driving a generator load I dont think I would have broken a sweat.

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2010, 06:01:26 PM »

I have also come to the conclusion that I will have painted, all of my pieces.  I know someone who paint's cars and will take it to them for a proffessional job.  This will make it non-electrically conductive and avoid eddy currents of any kind.  I will have the shaft and all metal pieces painted. 


Taken out of context this text reads strangely... It should say:
"painting pieces will eliminate any eddy currents flowing between
the pieces". Painting won't paticularly reduce eddy currents flowing
inside unitary pieces of metal. In fact the homopolar generator disk
is one giant interrupted eddy current.

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2010, 10:08:38 PM »
Taken out of context this text reads strangely... It should say:
"painting pieces will eliminate any eddy currents flowing between
the pieces". Painting won't paticularly reduce eddy currents flowing
inside unitary pieces of metal. In fact the homopolar generator disk is one giant interrupted eddy current.

:S:MarkSCoffman

I don't agree with this.  If the metal disc doesn't have a return path and is electrically isolated from the copper disc or coil which you will be drawing current from, then a static electric field is setup on the metal disc itself (the separated charges on the metal disc will have no where to go, due to no external circuit to complete a closed circuit).  Also, as long as the magnetic field is completely covering the conductive copper disc, then this eliminates most of the eddy currents.  Eddy currents are not a problem in the HPG.

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2010, 10:39:03 PM »
Taken out of context this text reads strangely... It should say:
"painting pieces will eliminate any eddy currents flowing between
the pieces". Painting won't paticularly reduce eddy currents flowing
inside unitary pieces of metal. In fact the homopolar generator disk
is one giant interrupted eddy current.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Good thing I am not using a "generator disk" then isn't it?  LOL

Back track and read the parts that I wrote...correctly, please.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce


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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2010, 11:46:52 PM »
Happy Saturday, ALL,

I feel as if I have made good progress today!  I did the painting myself and also designed and built the B.R.U.N.G. output stage, which is now prepared for the future brushes and mounted on it's shaft.  This part was critical and took a great deal of work but alas it has turned out just fine...

There is a nylon tube grommet glued inside, to keep the wires from contact with the shaft and to hold the output stage to the shaft.  The output stage IS removable from the shaft, if I need to change this shaft to a different length.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #80 on: April 18, 2010, 02:01:43 AM »
Hello ALL,

Shaft is now installed on first rotor, and the set screw has been tightened with an Allen wrench.  It is looking good, if I humbly say so myself!  LOL

My son asked why I was building it to look so good and I responded that I had "high hopes" that this would be an OU device when completed and did not want to ship something ugly off to Stefan...Hehehe

Next is to make a template for my BRUNG motor's stand. I am thinking on this... It needs to be made out of plastic or wood.... I think wood will work fine.  I also hope to order my ceramic bearings this week.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2010, 07:16:11 PM »
Pleasant Sunday to ALL,

The second shaft is installed securely.  I am now winding my first Tesla Pancake Coil, but ran out of wire.  The roll was 20' stranded 12 awg... so on my way for some connectors.

I love this wire... Winds nicely for pancake coils and has about 42 strands!   ;)  It should do nicely.

P.S.  Thinking about Tesla's disc with spirals, I think of a video I saw today... I have seen many varieties...  A magnet is dropped down an aluminum tube and Eddy currents of course slow it's descent.  I think if that tube were grooved with rifling, like a rifle, (unsure of depth) it would speed the descent of the magnet (thus lessening the effect of Lenz, and using Lenz rather than trying to defeat it)  Just a "half baked" thought for my "half baked" thread!  LOL

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2010, 08:37:26 PM »
Say you drop the magnet down a spiral wound solenoid coil. Store the eddy currents in an indutively coupled secondary that charges a capacitor.  When the magnet exits the tube discharge the capacitor through an accelerating coil that shoots the magnet through a plastic tube back to the top of the column.  Repeat as necessary.

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2010, 11:44:43 PM »
Say you drop the magnet down a spiral wound solenoid coil. Store the eddy currents in an indutively coupled secondary that charges a capacitor.  When the magnet exits the tube discharge the capacitor through an accelerating coil that shoots the magnet through a plastic tube back to the top of the column.  Repeat as necessary.

Hi Sparks,

You should try your suggestion Sparks, and let us know how it goes!  Use Alum wire...

Hi GB and Gyula, and all,

I think I have had stumbled onto a great improvement this afternoon, as I wound my first Tesla pancake coil....

What if, between each of the six or eight or however many pancake coils I sandwich between my large magnets, I were to place thin discs of black iron oxide??    ???  Because these are not "typical coils", would that work?  or would it actually hurt the flux field strength reaching the coils??  Any ideas or thoughts?  Of course I have also thought of placing a small thin one between the cores of my many stacked Tesla pancake coils, would that be a better route to go? 

@ ALL

I am coating first coil with laquer and have a picture below.  It took every bit of 40 feet for a 10" pancake coil.  So... 40' x 42 strands gives me...1680 feet worth of wire, for magnetic flux field to produce power~!   ;)  With 6 coils, without thin iron powder disc would be about 1.25" seperation between huge magnets (I may be able to throw in a few more, need to see where the strength of the N52's diminish... If any one has some, and a way to test flux field strength vs. distance, please post for me here, inquiring minds want to know.

Anywho, say six coils x 1680 = 10,080 feet of wire subject to a super strength flux field being rotated at high speed... I see a great power potential here...

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #84 on: April 19, 2010, 12:28:51 AM »
Hi Bruce,

Unfortunately I have had no hands on tests with pancake coils so I refer to this link and the one following it: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg237834#msg237834

I think you are going in the right direction with testing flat coils.

rgd,  Gyula

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #85 on: April 19, 2010, 04:05:38 AM »

Evening ALL,
I am going to continue to wind more pancake coils, but then I will also be winding an entire set of Tesla's bifilar pancake coils.  This way I will be able to test with both sets when the time comes.

Current pancake coil:
Ohms  .7
40 feet
12 awg
stranded-42 strands

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #86 on: April 19, 2010, 05:12:49 AM »
@ ALL

I am coating first coil with laquer and have a picture below.  It took every bit of 40 feet for a 10" pancake coil.  So... 40' x 42 strands gives me...1680 feet worth of wire, for magnetic flux field to produce power~!   ;)  With 6 coils, without thin iron powder disc would be about 1.25" seperation between huge magnets (I may be able to throw in a few more, need to see where the strength of the N52's diminish... If any one has some, and a way to test flux field strength vs. distance, please post for me here, inquiring minds want to know.

Cheers,

Bruce

What about a paper clip test?  See at what distance a paper clip will attract to the large magnet, then double this distance since the coils will be sandwiched between two magnets.  This may be a good starting point, then you can subtract coils until you find the best results in your testing.

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« Reply #87 on: April 19, 2010, 02:36:43 PM »
What about a paper clip test?  See at what distance a paper clip will attract to the large magnet, then double this distance since the coils will be sandwiched between two magnets.  This may be a good starting point, then you can subtract coils until you find the best results in your testing.

GB

Hi GB and ALL,

That's a simple idea.  I may end up purchasing a gaussmeter.  I have been wanting one anyway.

I have decided to coat the top layer of my pancake coils with a thin layer of black iron oxide/laquer, after much thought.

I researched a letter that Tesla wrote a friend, about his fueless generator, yesterday.  Interesting.  I am more convinced than ever that the unipolar generator combined with his bifilar pancake coil was it.  The bifilar pancake coil shows a voltage gain of 900% over what classical science calculates should be there, from a graph I saw yesterday, as well.

I am glad that I will be winding both.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #88 on: April 19, 2010, 03:51:35 PM »
Hi Bruce,
Any chance of seeing this letter and graphs you're talking about ? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!
« Reply #89 on: April 19, 2010, 05:35:54 PM »
Hi GB and ALL,

That's a simple idea.  I may end up purchasing a gaussmeter.  I have been wanting one anyway.

I have decided to coat the top layer of my pancake coils with a thin layer of black iron oxide/laquer, after much thought.

I researched a letter that Tesla wrote a friend, about his fueless generator, yesterday.  Interesting.  I am more convinced than ever that the unipolar generator combined with his bifilar pancake coil was it.  The bifilar pancake coil shows a voltage gain of 900% over what classical science calculates should be there, from a graph I saw yesterday, as well.

I am glad that I will be winding both.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

I know that you have a great deal more knowledge about this than I do but I have to ask why the iron oxide coating since it seems counterintuitive to me.  I'm sure there is something obvious I don't know but it just seems it would tend to block the fields from reaching the copper in the coil OR it would hinder flow along the copper.  I'm at least hoping you may save one uncoated to see the difference between the two.  All this is just based on an intuition - which has been known to be totally wrong before though   :)

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