For what it is worth, MICR toner has more ferros material in it.

Take care.

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@MK1

Thanks for your real nice video.

Try putting your LED directly onto the center coil, then pulse the outer coil. Then take the center coil and place it here and there, over and under to see where the best coupling is happenning. It is not always necessarilly in the center.

Also, I have given the AG coil a great deal of though and realize there is a major effect of cancellation that must be happenning in that coil given the criss-crossing of the winds, and given you only have one outer horizontal coil wound to catch it.

I would guess the future of such a coil will mature into using the horizontal wind in the center, actually two horizontal winds separated by a spacer or other good material, then have the 45 degree winds over them. This way you can catch the outer separate from the inner energy then try to put the two (or more) horizontal output coils in series or parallel.

In such systems that rely on some level of skin effect, the AG coil as it stands today is only using about 25% of the potential surface area available via coupling. I made a quick drawing of what I think will be the final result of such a build. 

@wattsup

I agree that if the theory hold valid , that would be a good way to go about it.

Thank for the drawing you made it very clear.

@all

I still have issue to iron out , 1 of my main prototype is giving me more output with some load on the transistor , it is not the most powerful but is the most promising to that fact alone , i have yet to isolate the reason for it . Some of my leads are the secondary is spaced between the winds ( it would agree with Ag theory) , it may also have to do with some randomness i added to the windings , also there seems to be some think undeniable the fatter the wire on the pickup coil the more amps seems to come out. There are many type of winding to consider not only there location , i wish to see if i can get power from a coil outside the one i already have on. Those two coil could be then connected in series , pancake , mobius i already tested some of that seems to load even less the transistor , And so on .


@all

Here are the first two prototype i made , i started with the idea that you could make a JT from wires only no core .

And then on the second one i got the same idea Wattsup had .

Great job Mark!

I was wondering about your pickup coil.  Is that a duplication of the "agentgates" (angled wiring) or are you merely tapping voltage from a 'straight simple wound' air coil?  How are the Led's tapped onto it?  Are you utilizing any other components?

Regards

E-Goose

I think you speak of the satellite coil , i hope i am right .

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/2/U9BMTAlL0dU

The satellite coil is actually a fabrication reject , when i started making the Micro version this was the first one but the edge is kinked so i made a new one that became the green and white one , so it is the exact same geometry but only one wire.

The 3 led on to are from one of those dollar store lamp , i removed the 3 aaa and one resistor and soldered it to the coil direct to it.

Its very free and useful because it shows visually when the transistor is under load form the orbit pickup coil.

I also used at first the other coil made from over 1000 turns of 30 gauge wire. The other coil is so much better.

You can see those used in my first 2 video .

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/4/OyiY-N1Ha5A

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/5/Glg8ZWntnAo

 Mk1 ,Wattsup like this?

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1030244.JPG

Post #12   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8586.0

Run mouse over text photos come up.

@wattsup

I made a mod on your idea .

@ All.
Hi, one more idea. (Pickup cap from shiny cooper tape or plate)
Or 2 pickup coils 1 round from shiny cooper tape or plate