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Author Topic: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils  (Read 166717 times)

Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2010, 09:16:03 PM »
Hello Mark

Great video, you are making some really great progress with your coils.  Is there an ideal distance between the coils when you add all 3 together inside one another?  I was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to try to make a 3 layer coil instead of 3 separate coils.  What do you think?  It may be worth the effort.  Anyways keep up the great work

~Stew

Actually i have found a new way to wind the coil without the cardboard, i will show it soon ...

Mark

Edit , i don't believe in a design built with more then one freq per core , the most you can put on is two phase ...

Like the tpu 3 freq Idea you need 3 core of that i am sure .
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 11:11:22 PM by Mk1 »

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #76 on: March 25, 2010, 09:18:39 PM »
Mark,
This is really wonderful.

I have a question about what is powering the motor.
It is the secondary pickup of the big coil, but it seems to be a separate circuit from a separate battery.

Is it?

You are breaking all the walls around the box... again.
Great stuff.

jeanna

You got it , not connected to anything and running bulb and motors ...

I could run bulbs and led from the jt coil  ;)

That is why i made it into a movie.

Thanks again for your support.

Mark

edit i will ad comments ...
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 09:40:14 PM by Mk1 »


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2010, 04:46:32 AM »
Yeh Yeh nice LED play, Rotor play, Spark play and Guitar play. I wonder if Tesla played an instrument. The DC Fiddle.

Is it not fun to play with those coils.

So everybody come and see what this guy made. The beginnings of the 6TPU.

The circular of the 6TPU and also could be a rectangular like the LTPU wall.

Now make 12 or more of these in rectangular standings vertical all in a circle and you have an LTPU. Cut out a piece of it and with some simple reconnection, you are off again.

It just remains to make it grow with gain.

The outer pick up wind wound be vertical on the exterior like we see in the LTPU video. The outer wind.

MK1, sorry to post this here but I just wanted to put it here because it is from here it came.

OK, here is what I think. If it works with thin wire, It will work more with thicker wire but in the same wind pattern. That could explain the weight of the LTPU.

Man oh man. Thanks.

wattsup

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2010, 10:34:15 AM »
Actually i have found a new way to wind the A without the cardboard, i will show it soon ...

Mark

Edit , i don't believe in a design built with more then one freq per core , the most you can put on is two phase ...

Like the tpu 3 freq Idea you need 3 core of that i am sure .

Mark

Great posts mate!  I am having a few issues though and can't seem to replicate the output power you are demonstrating in your video's. 

I'm not sure if it comes down to number of winds, overall frequency, your circuit, input power or what but I have tried everything including every which npn/pnp configs, not withstanding facing North, wearing an Aluminium Pyramid hat whilst holding onto a copper water pipe!  :D :D  I did NOT get much radiant but I may have contacted Elvis from beyond!

OK, so all funnies aside, some queries.
1)  What's your input power?  (1.5 volt?)
2)  Are you doing something out of the ordinary with the circuit?  I have tried additional coils, darlingtons etc etc and whilst I am seeing the standard power/spikes/lamp lighting from the EC of transistor, I CANNOT light a lamp at the EC AND the SECONDARY coil without killing the EC lamp which means the freq might not be high enough.  Can you post your circuit?
3)  I have asked this before - is there a problem bringing the coils/winds closer together?  I assume this is part of the 'nuance' of the agentgates coil.
4)  You are rectifying the current from a collector coil before feeding it to the led right?  (Either way, my meter is picking up just about zero AC on any coil I drop inside the field!

Look forward to a reply.

Regards

E-Goose


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #79 on: March 26, 2010, 12:34:30 PM »
Egoose

1)  What's your input power?  (1.5 volt?)  1.25 rechargeable 2440 mili

2)  Are you doing something out of the ordinary with the circuit?  I have tried additional coils, darlingtons etc etc and whilst I am seeing the standard power/spikes/lamp lighting from the EC of transistor, I CANNOT light a lamp at the EC AND the SECONDARY coil without killing the EC lamp which means the freq might not be high enough.  Can you post your circuit?

I don't use diodes or meter for that mater , a good transistor to test is 2n2222 and 2n3409 .

3)  I have asked this before - is there a problem bringing the coils/winds closer together?  I assume this is part of the 'nuance' of the agentgates coil.

I can't say for sure the on the spacing part , but you need many revolution and turns .

4)  You are rectifying the current from a collector coil before feeding it to the led right?  (Either way, my meter is picking up just about zero AC on any coil I drop inside the field!

Non no need to ...


I will need to see a picture ...

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #80 on: March 26, 2010, 12:40:40 PM »
@Egoose

A picture please .

But recommendation time now .

First the tube paper only .

Second the pickup coil wire needs to be really fat(serious anything in the twenties is useless)  , my jt coil gauge is about 24 , i would get better result out of 22.

The more turns you can get away with the better , you will need 2 for the jt.


Mark

edit

Are you Aussie (the use of the word mate), because i am up north the winding direction may not be proper . ::) that would be funny .

The angle you used ? and make sure you try the coil both ways.

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #81 on: March 26, 2010, 12:48:08 PM »
Egoose

1)  What's your input power?  (1.5 volt?)  1.25 rechargeable 2440 mili

2)  Are you doing something out of the ordinary with the circuit?  I have tried additional coils, darlingtons etc etc and whilst I am seeing the standard power/spikes/lamp lighting from the EC of A, I CANNOT light a lamp at the EC AND the SECONDARY coil without killing the EC lamp which means the freq might not be high enough.  Can you post your circuit?

I don't use diodes or meter for that mater , a good transistor to test is 2n2222 and 2n3409 .

3)  I have asked this before - is there a problem bringing the coils/winds closer together?  I assume this is part of the 'nuance' of the agentgates coil.

I can't say for sure the on the spacing part , but you need many revolution and turns .

4)  You are rectifying the current from a collector coil before feeding it to the led right?  (Either way, my meter is picking up just about zero AC on any coil I drop inside the field!

Non no need to ...


I will need to see a picture ...

Thanks for the reply Mark, youre a lovely fella.

I assume that although you have posted a schematic of a standard JT, where it has 'hand wound toroid', you are using the agentgates coil yes?

This being the case, I think I have been too slack with my turns then and require MORE revoloutions around the former.  The only other thing I could think of was that I am using a VERY thin plastic former and not cardboard.  I didnt think this would be a problem considering that thicker PVC pipe has been used as standard for Tesla coils forever and a day and nobody ever complains about it blocking radiant.  No former would be even better!

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #82 on: March 26, 2010, 12:54:07 PM »
Thanks for the reply Mark, youre a lovely fella.

I assume that although you have posted a schematic of a standard JT, where it has 'hand wound toroid', you are using the agentgates coil yes?

This being the case, I think I have been too slack with my turns then and require MORE revoloutions around the former.  The only other thing I could think of was that I am using a VERY thin plastic former and not cardboard.  I didnt think this would be a problem considering that thicker PVC pipe has been used as standard for Tesla coils forever and a day and nobody ever complains about it blocking radiant.  No former would be even better!

E-Goose

No one had success with PVC , find any card board around the house the size of it it not show any difference in results .

Yes same Ag coil i have been showing and the circuit modification is a 1 k pot to replace the resistor .

I can't guarantee all bulbs will light , i am up to 6 volt 250 mili now .

Mark

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #83 on: March 26, 2010, 12:58:31 PM »
@Egoose

A picture please .

But recommendation time now .

First the tube paper only .

Second the pickup A wire needs to be really fat(serious anything in the twenties is useless)  , my jt coil gauge is about 24 , i would get better result out of 22.

The more turns you can get away with the better , you will need 2 for the jt.


Mark

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Are you Aussie (the use of the word mate), because i am up north the winding direction may not be proper . ::) that would be funny .

The angle you used ? and make sure you try the coil both ways.

Mark

Oh, you beat me to the punch with some queries, especially on the former material.  Yes perhaps my plastic IS the problem afterall!!!  >:(   Funny to think that something as small as that could kill performance, which makes me think there is something to all that 'orgone' matrix matching in the end!

Yes, I was only using 15 AWG as secondary pickup coil on the outside (5 turns or so) and 19AWG as the primary.  I think the former was roughly 90mm diameter by 80mm high which probably made the angle quite rakish.  5mm spacings between bifilar winds (not enough turns I suspect).

I dont have a digi camera at the mo so cant post a pic sorry.

Yes, I am Aussie!

Cheers mate!

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #84 on: March 26, 2010, 01:10:31 PM »
No one had success with PVC , find any card board A the size of it it not show any difference in results .

Yes same Ag coil i have been showing and the circuit modification is a 1 k pot to replace the resistor .

I can't guarantee all bulbs will light , i am up to 6 volt 250 mili now .

Mark

Mark

Yes, I was fairly certain my circuit wasnt the issue but wanted to be sure.  I always use trimpots anyway to 'tune in' and get the best consumption/power-out ratio.

Thanks for the clarification.  Now to find some cardboard rolls.  I need to start hoarding more, I throw away too much stuff  ;D

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #85 on: March 26, 2010, 01:18:19 PM »
@Egoose

A picture please .

But recommendation time now .

First the tube paper only .

Second the pickup A wire needs to be really fat(serious anything in the twenties is useless)  , my jt coil gauge is about 24 , i would get better result out of 22.

The more turns you can get away with the better , you will need 2 for the jt.


Mark

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Are you Aussie (the use of the word mate), because i am up north the winding direction may not be proper . ::) that would be funny .

The angle you used ? and make sure you try the coil both ways.

Mark

Winding direction?  Is this an American joke where I need to check which direction my toilet is flowing before winding my coil for maximum performance?  LOL

Yes, I did flip the leads around a little and there was a SLIGHT variation in performance, not much though.

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #86 on: March 27, 2010, 09:36:52 AM »
@egoose

I hope it is a joke , but a Canadian one  ;D

« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 08:15:13 PM by Mk1 »


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2010, 09:39:57 AM »
@all

I have found this interesting ...

Ayrton-Perry winding - type of bifilar winding made of two parts wound in opposing
directions and connected in parallel.

1. Advantages

Such winding allows making wire resistors with the lowest values of
 parasitic inductance and parasitic capacitance. [1]

2. Drawbacks

Because the two parts of resistive wire are connected in
 parallel, the total resistance is half of the value
 of resistors made in common technology (with the same dimensions).

3. Use

Resistors with Ayrton-Perry winding are used in high-frequency electronic
circuits, in which parasitic
effects would have non-permissible effects on the circuit performance.


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #88 on: March 27, 2010, 10:51:46 PM »
@all

Have a look at this , a honeycomb coil usually 3 wires , perfect for 3 freq.

They where used in tube radio , i wonder if they ever used it in tv sets.

The over all size of it is quite reveling and i know what that geometry dose .

The next step will be to make one of those with the secondary inside to honeycomb coil .

My jig is ready , i just nee to find the wire...

 


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #89 on: March 27, 2010, 11:19:36 PM »
Beautiful coil design but way to complicated for hehe..... ;D

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