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Author Topic: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils  (Read 166890 times)

Offline ElectricGoose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2010, 12:12:41 PM »
Hi all!

Welcome to my new tread !

Ok in this tread i will work on my new JT design , inspired by the Rodin Coil , and agent gates coil , but mostly by nature .


Great job Mark!

I was wondering about your pickup coil.  Is that a duplication of the "agentgates" (angled wiring) or are you merely tapping voltage from a 'straight simple wound' air coil?  How are the Led's tapped onto it?  Are you utilizing any other components?

Regards

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2010, 03:49:36 PM »
For what it is worth, MICR toner has more ferros material in it.

Take care.

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Offline innovation_station

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »
looks great mk1!

: )

cant waite to see more ... 


ist!

we gonna make em fly yet eddy? 

; )
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 12:05:02 AM by innovation_station »

Offline wattsup

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2010, 08:18:23 PM »
@MK1

Thanks for your real nice video.

Try putting your LED directly onto the center coil, then pulse the outer coil. Then take the center coil and place it here and there, over and under to see where the best coupling is happenning. It is not always necessarilly in the center.

Also, I have given the AG coil a great deal of though and realize there is a major effect of cancellation that must be happenning in that coil given the criss-crossing of the winds, and given you only have one outer horizontal coil wound to catch it.

I would guess the future of such a coil will mature into using the horizontal wind in the center, actually two horizontal winds separated by a spacer or other good material, then have the 45 degree winds over them. This way you can catch the outer separate from the inner energy then try to put the two (or more) horizontal output coils in series or parallel.

In such systems that rely on some level of skin effect, the AG coil as it stands today is only using about 25% of the potential surface area available via coupling. I made a quick drawing of what I think will be the final result of such a build. 


Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2010, 09:22:35 PM »
@ E-Goose Ramset Slapper Wattsup

Thank again for your interest.




 
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 01:31:44 AM by Mk1 »

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2010, 09:40:44 PM »
@wattsup

I agree that if the theory hold valid , that would be a good way to go about it.

Thank for the drawing you made it very clear.

@all

I still have issue to iron out , 1 of my main prototype is giving me more output with some load on the transistor , it is not the most powerful but is the most promising to that fact alone , i have yet to isolate the reason for it . Some of my leads are the secondary is spaced between the winds ( it would agree with Ag theory) , it may also have to do with some randomness i added to the windings , also there seems to be some think undeniable the fatter the wire on the pickup coil the more amps seems to come out. There are many type of winding to consider not only there location , i wish to see if i can get power from a coil outside the one i already have on. Those two coil could be then connected in series , pancake , mobius i already tested some of that seems to load even less the transistor , And so on . :)


@all

Here are the first two prototype i made , i started with the idea that you could make a JT from wires only no core .

And then on the second one i got the same idea Wattsup had .




Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2010, 09:45:48 PM »
@all

Oscar made a movie ,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PdxlD4xOck

With scope shot !

 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8586.msg232142#new

Mark

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2010, 09:45:48 PM »
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Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2010, 10:48:32 PM »
Great job Mark!

I was wondering about your pickup coil.  Is that a duplication of the "agentgates" (angled wiring) or are you merely tapping voltage from a 'straight simple wound' air coil?  How are the Led's tapped onto it?  Are you utilizing any other components?

Regards

E-Goose


I think you speak of the satellite coil , i hope i am right .

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/2/U9BMTAlL0dU

The satellite coil is actually a fabrication reject , when i started making the Micro version this was the first one but the edge is kinked so i made a new one that became the green and white one , so it is the exact same geometry but only one wire.

The 3 led on to are from one of those dollar store lamp , i removed the 3 aaa and one resistor and soldered it to the coil direct to it.

Its very free and useful because it shows visually when the transistor is under load form the orbit pickup coil.

I also used at first the other coil made from over 1000 turns of 30 gauge wire. The other coil is so much better.

You can see those used in my first 2 video .

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/4/OyiY-N1Ha5A

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/5/Glg8ZWntnAo



« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 12:58:43 AM by Mk1 »

Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2010, 10:54:23 PM »
@all

More pictures of another prototype .

Also the satellite coil managed to pickup the field around a ferrite toroid Jt no magnets.

The bright light is 24 led in parallel .
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 01:33:06 AM by Mk1 »

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2010, 12:26:13 AM »
 Mk1 ,Wattsup like this?

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1030244.JPG

Post #12   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8586.0

Run mouse over text photos come up.

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2010, 01:00:16 AM »
Mk1 ,Wattsup like this?

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1030244.JPG

Post #12   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8586.0

Run mouse over text photos come up.


Yes it is an expansion on what i have learned about the Agentgates coil .

Thank !

Mark

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2010, 01:25:34 AM »
@wattsup

I made a mod on your idea .


« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 07:20:06 AM by Mk1 »


Offline ElectricGoose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2010, 12:03:57 PM »
@wattsup

I made a mod on your idea .

Thanks for the reply Mark.

BTW, that's a good idea about the modification to the wattsup notion.  I originally thought the same thing some time back (about making the bifilar coil 'heart') out of a copper coil itself rather than the cardboard or plastic former.  The reason I didnt was because, once it is there you can't remove it and it acts as a Faraday cage altering the behavior of the 'air' core itself.  It means you are restricted if you want to do a lttle bit of experimentation with it.  OK if you are happy with the end product though.

Do your bifilar winds actually start on opposite sides of the former (crossing at the same point but running in parallel?)  whoa is that clear?   :P

Regards

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2010, 07:47:24 PM »
@ All.
Hi, one more idea. (Pickup cap from shiny cooper tape or plate)
Or 2 pickup coils 1 round from shiny cooper tape or plate


Offline Magluvin

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2010, 11:42:44 PM »
Hey Mk
Since you have been working on this for a while, has it given you any insight as to what is actually going on with this style of coil interaction as compared to what we know about common transformers? Is there any of AG's theory becoming evident as you progress?
Just asking. I had an interest in the interactions of windings crossing similar to these before AG brought it about.

I wonder if 45deg is optimum. I had some good ideas and thoughts of how the coils would interact. But I had to wander back to some projects I was more into at the time.

Its good to see there are more than one way to apply the coils. Actually, yours had the best output so far as I can tell.

How many coils have you made and tried so far. Just interested.

Mags

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2010, 11:42:44 PM »

 

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