Everything in the universe is moving. Therefore ever thing in the universe is in perpetual monition.

No, everything in the universe was given a push with the big bang, after that it is stored energy being used over a period of a very long time. you could never duplicate it because you are so small and don't have enough energy to play with it.

Anything moving in vacuum, with no friction and no gravity, is in perpetual motion. This is the so called "conservation of energy": you can't create energy, but you also can't destroy energy. Without friction, kinetic energy can not be converted into heat. So, perpetual motion in vacuum, with zero friction and zero gravity, is the law.

it is only stored energy, a vacuum only stores it better, it does not add to it unless there is a collision of two or more systems and yet, it is only stored energy.

I would think over the part about you can't destroy energy a while. That's what the government wants you to think.

No, everything in the universe was given a push with the big bang, after that it is stored energy being used over a period of a very long time. you could never duplicate it because you are so small and don't have enough energy to play with it.

you can't prove the big bang... so don't state it like its a fact, it's just a theory.

Except that it is not the government that is telling us this, but scientists, and not just USA scientists, but scientists from every civilized nation.

sounds like an appeal to popularity... another logical fallacy.

I was distinguishing scientists from politicians/secret police.

regardless it's still a logical fallacy...

If you want to assert that scientists all over the world are in cohoots with the evil politicians, knock yourself out.

i never asserted any such thing, quit fabricating things.

Also, as an aside, you must be real bored with me not posting anymore, that you jump on the most innocuous of statements.  I am sure if I had said the sun would rise tomorrow, the logical fallacy ambulance would come wailing.

as an aside... lol do you even know what that means?
no, i'm not bored with you not posting anymore, it saves me time spent correcting your errors and pointing out your fallacious arguments, nor was i jumping on 'the most innocuous of statements'... it's just that logical fallacies is all you post as arguments. if you stated such about the sun in your usual manner, it probably would have been a logical fallacy. it wouldn't be if you offered a cogent argument regarding why the probability of the sun rising tomorrow is very high, but you rarely offer a cogent argument. i don't think you know what one is...

I said, "if".  Please point out where I accused you of asserting anything, logical fallacy boy.

it wasn't a direct accusation, you implied it.

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it wasn't a  accusation, you implied it.
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No I didn't.  You cannot know what was in my brain, and anyway, I clearly said "if", proposing that "if" you disagree, you are free to attempt to establish that scientists are in cahoots with the government.  And you are still free to do so.  Though probably you are just trying to pick a fight, logical fallacy boy, and hold no such view, though I cannot know for sure.