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h2ocommuter

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Building DS Plasma Globe
« on: January 29, 2010, 08:49:18 PM »
I must start this thread because everywhere I go people are building other devices and this is usually not what others are exploring.
My Name is Zane, I live in Clovis Ca.
51 yrs old this mo.
I am to the point of actually charging caps, and having a ball at it.
Larger caps charge faster than smaller ones, thus suggesting a measurable advantage using larger caps.
If you are currently building a DS plasma globe I want you here to colaberate with.
This is showing where I have am currently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb_V3wu32x0

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Paul-R

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 10:56:09 PM »
I must start this thread because everywhere I go people are building other devices and this is usually not what others are exploring.
There are three Don Smith threads on this site. The Search box will take you there.

h2ocommuter

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 02:51:58 AM »
What Paul, you want me to justify why I am starting this thread, again.....
this is a place where I am starting from, the plasma from the Globe.
If you or anyone else wants to start with a HV module do it, but what I intend on exposing here is, how we can accomplish this project from the plasma globe.

I personally chose the plasma globe for a few different reasons, One As long as I have known them being around as a passive novelty. Never would harm anyone.   I saw this probably 40 years ago. da da da da da..
I wanted to start from a source that we all felt had no power.

When most everybody has dropped this and moved onto the NST's and such I will stay here and find what DS said was here.
If you read through the other threads you will find everyone who had tried a plasma globe has moved to something else.
We are all still trying to find what don said was here "in that I agree not to move". so if that is what you want to do, feel free.
Do you remember when NT first discovered the radiant energy? I am speaking of the enormous energy coming from the generators before he hooked up the helix coil, you could feel the energy, powerful, intimidating to approach, etc.
I have felt that sort of power before and if I can just grab hold of a small part of it from the plasma globe. I could rebuild the garden of Eden in the death valley desert.
I am simply trying to find a comfortable place to post my observations and testing, where I will not be slamed by someone who, "is not building a plasma globe device." My posts are usually off topic for various reasons that deal with this issue.
There is great information on these threads also, "I am not degrading their value in any way by starting this thread".
These threads should recombine at some time because supposedly we can accomplish this same task by following the directions. What ever there are of the directions. Its obvious to everyone who knows of the various designs of DS's that each device is operated from the various laws DS has proposed exist.
I was happy to start where I wanted to, where I was theoretically, and skills wise.  I chose the plasma globe because it looked to have the clearest directions.

This thread is where quarterbacks rule. 

I have learned so much from people on this forum, I have learned to experiment with what I have, try things that are not written, innovate, think outside the box, all kinds of things. This has been totally invaluable, I have watched people stumble and fall, get up and get set for another play. The people who will succeed are those who can get set for the next play, and do not want to discourage others for doing what their mind tells them to try. Quarteback rules......

don't make me slam you. I am not an idiot! if you would have been to the other threads, you could have seen I have been there too. you've been benched!

If I don't get enough comrodery here I will go someplace else.
whoopee!
Thanks for your "not" input.

ramset

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 03:34:59 AM »
Zane

Sweet   ;D

Thanks for sharing, I hope you keep posting your findings here.

 Chet
PS
Don't ever argue with an idiot ,they'll bring you down to their level
and then they have the home field advantage  ;D

[just something funny I heard today]

Judges

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 04:13:58 AM »
Yes by all means continuie,,who knows,,,some one might learn something,,,or not,,,,in any case please continuie.I have dropped my HV Plasma brute strength project for the time being,
Capicators are interesting,,,diodes are interesting,leds are interesting,,,show it to us,we will watch.
Thanks
Joe.

h2ocommuter

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Circuit clarifications
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2010, 05:19:47 AM »
I neglected to show a pic of the spark gap bread board so hear it is.
Next is the new circuit with only one side of the L-2.
No matter what I have tried it has not given any added value.
So I just stopped using it, for now.

The modifications stated are these; turn the rectifier around, take out the SG.
As I know nothing about electronics I could not see how the other way worked, this one is more clearly understood.

The drawbacks are associated with being able to measure a Tesla. without the spark gap no magnetic values are evident. until I start producing large amounts of energy I may not be able to. we will see....

Funny thing is the capacitors; 200V 220 uf and the 400 v 24 uf caps both charge to 165 V,  I should note here, These capacitors charge right up to this level and just stop charging.
The 400v charges in 11 sec while the 200v takes 2 min.
The little 50v 1uf charges instantaneously to 100v and carries the charge without unloading when shorted. 

Magluvin

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2010, 10:13:42 AM »
Hey H2O

I had seen in a Don Smith vid where he put coil on top of a plasma globe, but didnt show the result, he just said, do this and your in business.
I have a lil 2 inch plasma globe you can get at PepBoys that you plug into a lighter socket. Well I bought one to test this.
After taking the clear plastic protective sphere apart, 2 halves, I put a lil coil of wire on top of the globe and sure enough, a spark jumps off the coil end an actually burns my finger, you can smell it. lol

I hadnt thought to put a diode on it thinking it wouldnt take the hv. What voltage are your diodes?

Also from another thread, someone asked about plasma globe, wire coil and a light bulb. Where is that thread?
Well now that I think about it, the spark was so hot that it just may light a filament bulb.
The hv wire that goes to the globe really burns stuff.  Thin wire melts like solder.
I will try the light bulb test today and post my results with a vid.

If it does light the bulb, the battery current that it takes to do it, will be far less than the bulb needs at 120v.

Thanks for showing  =]

Mags

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2010, 02:06:37 PM »
Also from another thread, someone asked about plasma globe, wire coil and a light bulb. Where is that thread?
Well now that I think about it, the spark was so hot that it just may light a filament bulb.
The hv wire that goes to the globe really burns stuff.  Thin wire melts like solder.
I will try the light bulb test today and post my results with a vid.

If it does light the bulb, the battery current that it takes to do it, will be far less than the bulb needs at 120v.

Thanks for showing  =]

Mags
it was me on the jt thread. as no one replied other than ist, i look forward to your results.

you don't actually need a coil on top of your plasma ball to pull a spark/arc, anything metal will do. a pop can, a alligator clip wrapped around the globe and clipped to itself, etc.

Magluvin

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 02:41:03 PM »
Hey Wilby
I did see it here at OU then.  I looked but couldnt find.

So should I wrap the globe in foil to get more?  I have 2 of them, one with the globe and the other just the power supply, due to the globe broke when the bag slipped off the table.  Ill try both direct and outer globe pickup.

Mags

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 02:41:18 PM »
how does this work?

Paul-R

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 02:44:42 PM »
What Paul, you want me to justify why I am starting this thread, again.....
this is a place where I am starting from, the plasma from the Globe.
Take a look at these. The globe has been discussed. I point out the two circuits interlocked by a transformer which all need to resonate one with another:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4233.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=502.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7837
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Magluvin

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 04:15:42 PM »
Wilby
Howd ya do that?  Did you make a run to Pepboys?  =]

So it does work

Mags

Magluvin

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2010, 06:36:13 PM »
Hey Wilby
I tried the lil plasma globe and it wasnt enough to light a bulb, tried a couple.

Mags

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2010, 08:55:12 PM »
Wilby
Howd ya do that?  Did you make a run to Pepboys?  =]

So it does work

Mags
i think it works because i'm an idiot (according to some of this sites knowitalls).  nope, i didn't make a run to pepboys :)

yup it works, but shouldn't we have about 40 more pages of speculation by milehigh, grumpy, poynty, marco, yucca, etc. about why it doesn't/can't work?

edit: my plasma globe is wall powered, 8' globe (approx) and the bulb will not light if the globe is not removed.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2010, 10:57:31 PM by WilbyInebriated »

FatBird

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 12:36:10 AM »
Thank you for the Plasma Video.  I too have monkeyed around with a Plasma Lamp, and the best I could do was light up a 4 foot long Fluorescent Bulb by holding it in my hand and touching the Plasma Lamp with one end of the bulb.

I never tried your spark plug spark gap, which is a great idea.  Try wrapping some aluminum foil around your Plasma Lamp and fasten your wire to that.  That worked best for me for maximum output.

You mentioned that your capacitor voltage went up and down.  That is because only AC comes off of Plasma Lamps, and Caps need DC to charge them up.  So maybe you should try placing a Diode in between the Spark Plug and Capacitor.

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