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Judges

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2010, 07:34:07 PM »
G' Morning Sparks,
Wish you could have recorded that.
I have repaired around a Hundred Televisions and Several Thousand (CRT)Computer Monitors.
Google Joe Smith Monitor Repair.That's me,at west point monitor repair..there are monitor and tv Forums,dedicated to building tip bases for quick,look it up repairs.I belong to them.
You must prove to the moderator that you are a tech,before being allowed to join.
I know monitors and TV's.Or I thought I did.Never ever have I heard of anything even approaching your experience.I have read your post several times.
Plasma of course would handle the analog,tv signal,,from there I am lost.
Amazing,,it must be plausible or it wouldn't have happened.

Talk about "Food for Thought",,Sparks,you win the prize for innovation,,,hands down.End of contest.

Why are there people like You and I,?,,,God only knows,,and he must Protect us,,,otherwise,,,?????how do we get away with it?

cheers + safety
Joe in Texas

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
Today I will rig a small box fan and photograph the effect on plasma.Hope it is up to what I want.

Plasma flame is hot enough to melt metal,at least copper or aluminum,,If it is NOT(hot enough),,then I wish to find out where I am going wrong.

I can only do this by experiment...so adios,,muchachos,,till
later today.
Cheers
Joe in Texas.

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2010, 05:14:17 AM »
    I did alot of work with ozone cells in water repurification and seen my share of coronal discharge but it was to an obvious ground.  This is the only time I have seen an open air discharge to nowhere.  I have seen plasma created like you are after when a pole pig shorted from primary to secondary and sent 20k into a building bridging the fused disconnect with about a 5inch gap.  Again there was an obvious potential setup between the grid and ground.  The current was resisted just enough to allow the primary breaker to stay engaged.  Then there was the time some water with salt in it sprayed a 460volt motor relay box.  I heard the hiss but was trying to minimize damage control like stop the water from spraying all over the control room.  Well the plant called for the motor to engage and so it did.  It blew the NEMA 1 enclosure cover right off the box across the room and by my head at a good 100 miles an hour.  Only thing I can figure out is that the hiss was producing hydrogen gas of some sort and the plasma from the contacts making ignited it.  The motor starter itself was fine.  The box not so good.  A little bloated.  Well on the day in question with the flyback pulsing the iron coil I was curious enough to insulate myself from ground and stick my paw a good 12 inches from the weird dually plasma things.  Cold ass ion wind heading from the ground to the coil.  You could cup your hand and feel the cold stuff fill up your palm then leak out around the edges.  That and not all of it was coming from the air I could feel it coming from out of my hand.  It is not the feeling you get when you radiate your body heat and cold is radiating in.  It was cold radiating out.  Weird as it gets.  Pretty dumb too but I lacked any kind of thermal sensing device and just had a gut feeling this was not your ordinary radiant em event.  I think this is what was happening but not so sure.  The coil was acting as a solenoid and providing a relatively permanent magnetic field of a torroidal nature.  The lead from the flyback was attached in the middle of the 6 turn coil so the current was creating like two solenoids  back to back.  The pulsed  electric field was causing ionization of the air on the ends of the iron coil and the current maintaining the split polarity solenoidal magnetic field lines.  The free electrons liberated from the air ionization started a current that followed the magnetic field lines from the iron coil.  Since the coil ends extended through a uhmw block and ions like to float they were accruing inside the electron current flowing along the magfield lines.  This kept on going until with the ions relatively cold but still very positive but lighter than air amassed inside the electron loop.  This positive pole was insulated like a low pressure area in a twister.  For any high pressure to get to it it would have to negotiate the hot electron circulation.  The cold feeling was the thermal energy drop of the mass of the air and my hand as electrons left the atoms heading for the little cyclone deal I had going.  Ions lack the thermal energy of the relatively hot electrons.  I am quite certain that if I had kept running this thing it was going to get cold enough to form condensation of water vapor and some eery fog as reported around other plasma devices running in open air.  I didnt need to wait around for that kinda shit to happen and pulled the plug. 

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2010, 06:01:19 AM »
Sparks,I am grounded to the point that theoretically I could rest one hand on ONE electrode.

One Pig Ear to Ground,3/4 X 7 foot copper clad iron rod,driven into sand below 6 inch slab,2 inches above slab equalls at least six foot deep, sand on top of gumbo ,on my particular place of the state of Texas.AWG 4 to rod,,2 foot distance.
Primary Center Tap Grounded,,AWG 4,,foot and a half length.

I am Plasma to Ground,,the energy burden for the flame I want,is too great at this time,ballast overloads,and runs hot,,cant find where I put 2 new 220v hot water heater elements,I (for a resistive load),am tired of looking.I have too much STUFF.
And a lot of it is hard to move around.I think I counted 11 MOT's,,,4 NST's,,,,,enough coax to do the Empire State Building,,5 old computers,,4,21 inch crt monitors(i know their innards),,Boxes of obscure electronics,,boxes of old tubes,,
instruments I have no idea of function,,2 dials,one green (big) eye,,,10 Sig gens(govt auction),,,big wire on spools,,,little
wire on spools,,,hmmmm,,,one of these in a bucket of water
might work in series with my ballast,,,nay,,,I think I will electrify,that big long coil in most of my pictures,,,,,#17 Magnet wire,wound 80 inches on a 16 inch diameter,,fiberglass,,pipe(1/8" thick),,in series with current ballast.Nay.Not that either.

I'll sleep on it and think of something.

Keep your powder dry,,
Joe in Texas

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2010, 06:21:17 AM »
  Couple of those microwaves in each leg would load her down.  They'll dump a thousand watts or so.  Heating up whatever.  I just nuked some soup.  Heading for the hay myself.

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2010, 04:50:18 AM »
Yo Sparks,,did you catch this?
j.

April 02, 2010

A recent experiment by myself utilizing two strong NeFeB 5150 gauss disks, each having a 2 inch diameter and spinning at 3100 rpm, generated 15 amps d.c. at 36 millivolts while mounted on a drill press.

This is free energy. It turns out that the POWER is only about a half of a watt. However, it is a fact that the POWER is a function of the radius increase to the fourth power. Thus, increasing the diameter while decreasing the speed more than compensates for brush friction. It is then possible to build a free energy machine that puts out free energy kilowatts above the friction losses and excitation power of the field. Modulating the excitation field at 60 Hz creates a.c. output of low voltage and high current that can be transformed by a step-up transformer to power the commercial grid.

Disks: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RY046

Video and more information to follow.

Respectfully,
Jerry E. Bayles
jebayles2001@yahoo.com
http://www.electrogravity.com
ElectrogravityWorks
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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2010, 07:17:38 AM »
Chopped a microwave oven,down to a functioning microwave out put..
http://s980.photobucket.com/home/Judges_album/index
Guess what I will be aiming my microwave AT ?
Have a good day.
Joe in Texas

ps.Google dose  not give me exactly what I am looking for"compressing/concentrating/pushing at high velocity?
against a plasma source with microwaves)having said this,
I DID find some very useful info on plasma confinement and concentration of plasma,,seems simple to implement,

I have about a 2 gallon pail of rectangular,twisting(spiral),
wave guides,,all from a WSMR junk radar.

I also have a very good pinch lens for microwaves,,

Let's see if I hit the 4 inch square of confined,concentrated plasma,(60 hertz),,,With,2.45Ghz of magnetron before wave guide and heat,which ADDS TO the microwave frequency.,,

The pinch guide (spiral  magnet field) should give me about a one inch diameter of microwave propellant,against the Pigs,Plasma.

Why?
Why not?
Joe in Texas

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2010, 08:13:29 AM »
Microwaves focused squarely onto Arc,=NOTHING,at most a slight flickering toward the direction oposite the MW antenna.
Slightly disappointing.
I don't really know what I expected,,,a little fireworks would have been nice.

Today I received a VERY Large MO..Lotta watts,,,,soooooo I will be tearing into it first thing in the morning,,,I'm a happy boy!
J in t

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2010, 01:55:25 AM »
  Dont sweat if man.  Hot fusion scientists have been making microwave flickers in plasma for 20 or 30 years now and still happy doing so as long as the funding holds up.  The charge of a proton becomes infinite as you approach the surface.  Now you take two of these infinitely opposing bodies and heat them with microwaves and have them compressed in the core of the plasma by the negatively charged electrons shielding them because theyre on the outside following the supercooled electromagnet produced lines of force and everyone is mystified when it takes more zing to get a zap then the zing from the zap.  This is what happens when you take two cars and drive them at each other at several hundred miles an hour and expect  them to come out looking like a brand new model you can drive away in and bring her down to the wash for a detail job.  There is always a chance but when are they going to give up and move on.

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Re: Possible experiments with HV Plasma
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2010, 04:23:06 AM »
There is a change in the air.Don't be surprised if the good old boys down the block,generate a just under sonic boom,or a rocket engine running wide open for,SCHEZAM ??2:30
seconds??logging is simple,molding and developing times are getting vastly shorter.NASA is no more the mover and shaker,,If you are looking for rocket building experience,I would say there is currently a good choice to choose from.
Good,meaning 30,40 years experience,with papers,to a Good Home only.
Handle With Care.
Cheers to Ya!
Joe in Texas.