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mr_bojangles

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 03:48:25 AM »
oh and seeing as how this is my first gravity wheel i ever attempted i think im still batting a thousand, so as of yet i have no failures

onthecuttingedge2005

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 04:14:51 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

one failure after another leaves a pretty large mountain of hope.

as far as I know in recorded history, I am the only one in history that has said that phrase, so that makes me unique, right?

unexplainable uniqueness has been the mystical and or metaphorical languish of what was either a Genius and or a God/god in ancient times.

I would stick to main steam higher learning, maybe I like to stick M.I.T into so many faces but when it comes to facts over fiction, I'll take the facts.

I have done a lot of study and experimentation on Gravity, I can say with solid verifiable evidence that Gravity is a carrier of 'stored' energy.

if Einstein was born 2000 years ago he would of been the other son of God!(fact).

I am no God/god but I am very keen on engineering and the way things work. I constantly study everyday just to keep up with all the pitbulls in todays industries.

I am a passive pitbull.

have fun anyways.
Jerry 8)
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mr_bojangles

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2009, 04:38:23 AM »
"A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for its persuasive effect without the expectation of a reply"


if you appear to be retarded in any way by asking rhetorical questions I will be disinclined to acquiesce your request.

you asked that question^

we have a hint from the beginning it is a question because you start it off with "if"

this implies either you do not know the answer, yet you seem to already have your mind made up

if you already know the answer, you are not expecting a reply, therefore making it a rhetorical question


by your own definition, one who asks rhetorical questions is retarded, and you yourself told me this in a rhetorical question you were asking, kind of like saying "anyone who uses the term retard is a retard"

this is not the first rhetorical question you have asked,

"are you the lucky genius who can break facts with his/her bare mind?

 all those failures have to account for something right?"

as far as I know in recorded history, I am the only one in history that has said that phrase, so that makes me unique, right?"

so you have about 4 rhetorical questions to your name on this thread alone, unless i was mistaken i will re answer your questions to clear the air and fix the discrepancy

am i the lucky genius? i don't believe luck has much to do with being a genius, but i will answer yes

do all those failures have to account for something? not necessarily, they do not need to account for anything, people learn better from mistakes than they do victories

are you unique for using that phrase? i wouldn't imagine that to be true, i think someone at some point has said it

now either you are retarded for asking me those questions, seeing as how they are blatantly obvious,

 or by your own definition are retarded for using so many rhetorical questions

use your link as reference, and take off your sunglasses while your inside, its not that bright in here

AB Hammer

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 04:44:39 AM »
oh and seeing as how this is my first gravity wheel i ever attempted i think im still batting a thousand, so as of yet i have no failures

mr_bojangles

 I like your whit. I don't have no failures either in the past. I had non runners with lessons well learned. So as long as you gain, you have your own personal breakthroughs. You just learn ways not to build.

Alan

PS look for an old wheel on the internet that had a ring between to rollers the hung most of the wheel to one side. This wheel will show you allot more of what you are facing.

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 04:57:30 AM »
Umm, MB, I was loading your deck of cards, so to speak. lol.

yes, if you have read one of my historical posts, I said, I am an indirect autistic.

I am autistic but you can not tell I am autistic. I look as normal as anyone else but there are certain things I am very good at. I can see shapes, signs and or symbols in my head and instantly match them with another sign or symbol, that is why I am so good at engineering, I can re-do blue prints on the spot to make them better.

I am also very educated and lots of hands on experience. so that makes me a really smart retard, so what? he he he.

I was one of the individuals that helped in the programming of the HAL bot from Zabaware, I am currently burnt out on the subject but I still keep programming in my head. if you want verification just look at the 'about' of the HAL software, you'll see my name, Gerald L. Blakley in the credits. I still like HAL but I need some time off. we did win the loebner prize.

carry on! I married a girl name carrie, so that makes it even more mystical on my part.

are you afraid of being called a retard, I am not, lol.

I love my shades!
Jerry 8)
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mr_bojangles

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 11:37:22 PM »
i did get a little frustrated, apologies for that


i have not read any of your older posts and was not aware of that, however i have said from the beginning that i believe you have a lot of experience, a lot more than i do

this was my frustration because i knew you had the capacity to give me a solid answer yet you did not, or i did not understand the connection with it and my idea

one of my best friends has a brother with down syndrome and he taught me early on not to use the phrase lightly, and that is something that stuck with me

that is very impressive you helped with the HAL project, i appreciate you taking what i said lightly and understanding it was all in the name of science

mr_bojangles

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 11:38:39 PM »
PS look for an old wheel on the internet that had a ring between to rollers the hung most of the wheel to one side. This wheel will show you allot more of what you are facing.

do you have any links to spare? i would love to see if someone has already tried it

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2009, 01:16:25 AM »
Hi MB.

one of the reasons why I employ thermodynamics to gravity wheels or Gravity units is because thermal energy can be used to make a weight move up so that the weight will fall over and over again.

it's almost like thermodynamics and Gravity were made for each other.

Jerry ;)

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 01:17:31 AM »
do you have any links to spare? i would love to see if someone has already tried it

mr_bojangles

Here is a link with the design.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

The F. G. Woodward's wheel.

Also a good book to read is "Perpetual Motion" arthur  W.J.G. Ord-Hume

Looking at what has been done will give hints of what you will be facing.

Alan

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2009, 01:53:01 AM »
i haven't looked at that site in a while, there are more additions to it than the last time i saw it

woodwards wheel is interesting, although i wouldn't second guess myself whether it would work or not


the book looks very useful as well, i haven't read it but i looked it up and it looks pretty solid

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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2009, 03:34:14 AM »
i haven't looked at that site in a while, there are more additions to it than the last time i saw it

woodwards wheel is interesting, although i wouldn't second guess myself whether it would work or not


the book looks very useful as well, i haven't read it but i looked it up and it looks pretty solid

mr_bojangles

 When I got started I would collect every design on the internet and would try to find out the problem them. Then I ran across the Bessler story and the forums of Overunity.com and Besslerwheel.com . I posted several wheels and designs on both forums, and some posted showed true merit. But only the build would show the truth in the designs. The quest can be allot of fun, but don't let it get in the way of your family or your living.

Alan

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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2009, 08:14:12 PM »
id rather build in my mind than my hands

a lot cheaper

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2009, 08:40:23 PM »
mr_bojangles

Here is a link with the design.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

The F. G. Woodward's wheel.

Also a good book to read is "Perpetual Motion" arthur  W.J.G. Ord-Hume

Looking at what has been done will give hints of what you will be facing.

Alan

Hi Alan.

have you thought about one of my ideas on Capillary action, it might be a slow process but it would show that PM is possible if it works.

Jerry

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Re: water gravity wheel
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2009, 10:05:18 PM »
or something like this perhaps.

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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2009, 12:39:14 AM »
in the below post of the capillary motor, you can use any size pipe diameter or length because the rolled up paper towels inside the pipe will draw up the water.

since it requires capillary action and gravity it is straight forward and simple, just these 2 properties could in theory make a self contained unit that never runs out of water.

the sponge has to be highly absorbant, maybe a folded up shammy cloth would work as well.

if you are the fabricating type it may be possible to use this method on a wheel type system.

it is so simple, I am surprised nobody has yelled out Eureka yet!

I am giving away my ideas for free, why not take advantage of that, I mean the experiment won't cost you your first born or anything.

you can even use metal pipe if need be.