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Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: braden on December 09, 2009, 05:41:47 PM
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Tesla once wrote
If ever we can ascertain at what period the earth's charge, when disturbed, oscillates with respect to an oppositely electrified system or known circuit, we shall know a fact possibly of the greatest importance to the welfare of the human race. I propose to seek for the period by means of an electrical oscillator, or a source of alternating electric currents. One of the terminals of the source would be connected to earth as, for instance, to the city water mains, the other to an insulated body of large surface. It is possible that the outer conducting air strata, or free space, contain an opposite charge and that, together with the earth, they form a condenser of very large capacity. In such case the period of vibration may be very low and an alternating dynamo machine might serve for the purpose of the experiment. I would then transform the current to a potential as high as it would be found possible and connect the ends of the high tension secondary to the ground and to the insulated body.
Does any one have the experience or knowledge to help me put together a 7.8 Hertz LC circuit
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Bad idea.Use higher harmonics
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With supercaps of e.g. 100 F this would be obtainable.
I rather would investigate wavelength (or half, or quatre labda of it) towards the ionosphere.
You need several tens of KHz for that.
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Project Tesla: Objectives
The objectives of Project Tesla are divided into three areas of
investigation. 1. Demonstration that the Schumann Cavity can be resonated with an
open air, vertical dipole antenna;
2. Measurement of power insertion losses;
3. Measurement of power retrieval losses, locally and at a distance.
Methods
A full size, 51 foot diameter, air core, radio frequency resonating
coil and a unique 130 foot tower, insulated 30 feet above ground, have
been constructed and are operational at an elevation of approximately
11,000 feet. This system was originally built by Robert Golka in 1973-
1974 and used until 1982 by the United States Air Force at Wendover AFB
in Wendover, Utah. The USAF used the coil for simulating natural
lightning for testing and hardening fighter aircraft. The system has a
capacity of over 600 kilowatts. The coil, which is the largest part
of the system, has already been built, tested, and is operational.
A location at a high altitude is initially advantageous for reducing
atmospheric losses which work against an efficient coupling to the
Schumann Cavity. The high frequency, high voltage output of the coil
will be half wave rectified using a uniquely designed single electrode
X-ray tube. The X-ray tube will be used to charge a 130 ft. tall,
Å vertical tower which will function to provide a vertical current
moment. The mast is topped by a metal sphere 30 inches in diameter.
X-rays emitted from the tube will ionize the atmosphere between the
Tesla coil and the tower. This will result in a low resistance path
causing all discharges to flow from the coil to the tower. A
circulating current of 1,000 amperes in the system will create an
ionization and corona causing a large virtual electrical capacitance in
the medium surrounding the sphere. The total charge around the tower
will be in the range of between 200-600 coulombs. Discharging the
tower 7-8 times per second through a fixed or rotary spark gap will
create electrical disturbances, which will resonantly excite the
Schumann Cavity, and propagate around the entire Earth.
The propagated wave front will be reflected from the antipode back to
the transmitter site. The reflected wave will be reinforced and again
radiated when it returns to the transmitter. As a result, an
oscillation will be established and maintained in the Schumann Cavity.
The loss of power in the cavity has been estimated to be about 6% per
round trip. If the same amount of power is delivered to the cavity on
each cycle of oscillation of the transmitter, there will be a net
energy gain which will result in a net voltage, or amplitude increase.
This will result in reactive energy storage in the cavity. As long as
energy is delivered to the cavity, the process will continue until the
energy is removed by heating, lightning discharges, or as is proposed
by this project, loading by tuned circuits at distant locations for
power distribution.
The resonating cavity field will be detected by stations both in the
United States and overseas. These will be staffed by engineers and
scientists who have agreed to participate in the experiment.
Measurement of power insertion and retrieval losses will be made at
the transmitter site and at distant receiving locations. Equipment
constructed especially for measurement of low frequency electromagnetic
waves will be employed to measure the effectiveness of using the
Schumann Cavity as a means of electrical power distribution. The
detection equipment used by project personnel will consist of a pick up
coil and industry standard low noise, high gain operational amplifiers
and active band pass filters.
In addition to project detection there will be a record of the
experiment recorded by a network of monitoring stations that have been
set up specifically to monitor electromagnetic activity in the Schumann
Cavity.
Evaluation Procedure
The project will be evaluated by an analysis of the data provided by
local and distant measurement stations. The output of the transmitter
will produce a 7-8 Hz sine wave as a result of the discharges from the
antenna. The recordings made by distant stations will be time
synchronized to ensure that the data received is a result of the
operation of the transmitter.
Power insertion and retrieval losses will be analyzed after the
measurements taken during the transmission are recorded. Attenuation,
field strength, and cavity Q will be calculated using the equations
presented in Dr. Corum's papers. These papers are noted in the
references. If recorded results indicate power can be efficiently
coupled into or transmitted in the Schumann Cavity, a second phase of
research involving power reception will be initiated.
Environmental Considerations
The extreme low frequencies (ELF), present in the environment have
several origins. The time varying magnetic fields produced as a result
of solar and lunar influences on ionospheric currents are on the order
of 30 nanoteslas. The largest time varying fields are those generated
by solar activity and thunderstorms. These magnetic fields reach a
maximum of 0.5 microteslas (uT) The magnetic fields produced as a
result of lightning discharges in the Schumann Cavity peak at 7, 14, 20
and 26 Hz. The magnetic flux densities associated with these resonant
frequencies vary from 0.25 to 3.6 picoteslas. per root hertz
(pT/Hz1/2).
Exposure to man made sources of ELF can be up to 1 billion (1000
million or 1 x 109) times stronger than that of naturally occurring
fields. Household appliances operated at 60 Hz can produce fields as
high as 2.5 mT. The field under a 765 kV, 60 Hz power line carrying 1
amp per phase is 15 uT. ELF antennae systems that are used for
submarine communication produce fields of 20 uT. Video display
terminals produce fields of 2 uT, 1,000,000 times the strength of the
Schumann Resonance frequencies.9
Project Tesla will use a 150 kw generator to excite the Schumann
cavity. Calculations predict that the field strength due to this
excitation at 7.8 Hz will be on the order of 46 picoteslas.
Future Objectives
The successful resonating of the Schumann Cavity and wireless
transmission of power on a small scale resulting in proof of principle
will require a second phase of engineering, the design of receiving
stations. On completion of the second phase, the third and fourth
phases of the project involving further tests and improvements and a
large scale demonstration project will be pursued to prove commercial
feasibility.
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I recommend this book: :)
22 Radio and Receiver Projects for the Evil Genius.
It's one of the very best! :)
Table of contents
Acknowledgments
Introduction
Chapter 1: Radio Background and History
Chapter 2: Identifying Components and Reading Schematics
Chapter 3: Electronic Parts Installation and Soldering
Chapter 4: AM, FM, and Shortwave Crystal Radio Projects
Chapter 5: TRF AM Radio Receiver
Chapter 6: Solid-State FM Broadcast Receiver
Chapter 7: Doerle Single Tube Super-Regenerative Radio Receiver
Chapter 8: IC Shortwave Radio Receiver
Chapter 9: 80/40 Meter Code Practice Receiver
Chapter 10: WWV 10 MHz "Time-Code" Receiver
Chapter 11: VHF Public Service Monitor (Action-Band) Receiver
Chapter 12: 6 & 2-Meter Band Amateur Radio Receiver
Chapter 13: Active and Passive Aircraft Band Receivers
Chapter 14: VLF or Very Low Frequency Radio Receiver
Chapter 15: Induction Loop Receiving System
Chapter 16: Lightning Storm Monitor
Chapter 17: Ambient Power Receiver
Chapter 18: Earth Field Magnetometer Project
Chapter 19: Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance (SIDs) Receiver
Chapter 20: Aurora Monitor Project
Chapter 21: Ultra-Low Frequency (ULF) Receiver
Chapter 22: Jupiter Radio Telescope Receiver
Chapter 23: Weather Satellite Receiver
Chapter 24: Analog to Digital Converters (ADCs)
Marco.
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I recommend this book: :)
22 Radio and Receiver Projects for the Evil Genius.
It's one of the very best! :)
...and its available on Amazon (US) s/h for $10
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=22+Radio+and+Receiver+Projects+for+the+Evil+Genius.&x=&y=
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I just downloaded the book, 7,5mb PDF :D
Just find the torrent.......;)
Spider
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Build a 7.8 htz transmitter first so you can zero in on the right frequency with a receiver otherwise you will be fighting with a 2 to one ratio of people who will decide that your tapping off power lines or local radio broadcast stations. Use a cage to isolate both units so you can turn off the signal and show that is what you have tuned into. Fox hole radios are the easiest to build and cost nothing then you can decide if it is practical to proceed with a larger scale.
Just keep in mind only half the people want to see energy freedom the other half want to be the task masters.
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Hi
Description video and Robert Golka
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4454624032747988056&hl=es&emb=1# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4454624032747988056&hl=es&emb=1#)
And the orignal purpose of the Tesla Coil design used for Robert Golka in Project Tesla
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-420327685434275548# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-420327685434275548#)
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Hi Folks,
I've recently been looking at Schumann Resonance stuff in my research...
I've a simple-ish question for the forum:
- Schumann Resonance is reportedly 7.83Hz
- Circumference of Earth is 40008 Km (minimum)
- Formula for calculating one from the other is: F = C / L, where C is speed of light. (http://www.1728.org/freqwave.htm)
- Speed of light is 299792458 m/s
Question: Do the calcs, and it doesn't add up!
- If F = 7.83 Hz, then L = 38,287,670 m.
- If L = 42,008,000 m, then F = 7.14Hz
What's going on? Anyone have any idea?
Thanks :)
Tim
PS. It's a big, big difference! between 7.14Hz and 7.83...
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This article deals primarily with spherical and ellipsoidal models of the Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_radius
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Here's a table showing the Earth resonance harmonics - and the differences between the two...
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This article deals primarily with spherical and ellipsoidal models of the Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_radius
Hi Wings :)
Mmm, I know the earth's not spherical... The thing is - how can the observed wavelength be * less than * the minimum circumference...?
I could understand if it was a wavelength a bit bigger than the circumference, but less? Does it go inside the Earth? No... So how does that work?
Regards, Tim
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Hi Wings :)
Mmm, I know the earth's not spherical... The thing is - how can the observed wavelength be * less than * the minimum circumference...?
I could understand if it was a wavelength a bit bigger than the circumference, but less? Does it go inside the Earth? No... So how does that work?
Regards, Tim
Hi Tim,
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
GL.
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Hi Tim
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
Hi Groundloop,
ok, found it:
"The real Earth–ionosphere waveguide is not a perfect electromagnetic resonant cavity. Losses due to finite ionosphere electrical conductivity lower the propagation speed of electromagnetic signals in the cavity, resulting in a resonance frequency that is lower than would be expected in an ideal case, "
Oh, no that's back to front... 7.83 is a higher frequency than 7.14. Hmmm, so - no that's not it then...
Which part of the page do you think explains the phenomena?
Regards, Tim
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Hi Groundloop,
ok, found it:
"The real Earth–ionosphere waveguide is not a perfect electromagnetic resonant cavity. Losses due to finite ionosphere electrical conductivity lower the propagation speed of electromagnetic signals in the cavity, resulting in a resonance frequency that is lower than would be expected in an ideal case, "
Oh, no that's back to front... 7.83 is a higher frequency than 7.14. Hmmm, so - no that's not it then...
Which part of the page do you think explains the phenomena?
Regards, Tim
Tim,
Consider the distance between earth surface and the top of the Ionosphere as a waveguide.
Then use your math to find the frequency based on the thickness of the waveguide.
GL.
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Tim,
Consider the distance between earth surface and the top of the Ionosphere as a waveguide.
Then use your math to find the frequency based on the thickness of the waveguide.
Hi GL,
- distance between earth surface and the top of the Ionosphere = 600Km
- a waveguide of 600 Km has a cutoff frequency of about 250Hz
I'm no wiser... Would you mind giving a full explanation?
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Hi GL,
- distance between earth surface and the top of the Ionosphere = 600Km
- a waveguide of 600 Km has a cutoff frequency of about 250Hz
I'm no wiser... Would you mind giving a full explanation?
Hi Tim,
Quote:
"The fundamental mode frequency for Schumann resonance
is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with
a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth."
End quote.
My personal view is that the above conclusion is not correct.
I do not think that the cavity theory explains the observed reality.
The theoretical frequency is found to be 7,48Hz.
(The circumference of the earth at the equator is 40075,16 kilometers.
Speed of light, c = 299792458 meters per second.
Frequency = 299792458 / 40075160 = 7,48 Hz.)
The real frequency measured is 7,83Hz. When a real measurement
is different from the predicted theoretical value, then one must
conclude that the theory is wrong.
My theory is that the observed frequency is the result of reflections
of radio frequency energy from the different layers in the Ionosphere
and that some ELF frequencies more easy can be reflected.
So the RF energy from the lightning is radiated away, and most of
the RF is converted to heat by atmospheric damping. For some frequencies
the damping is less and the signal can be reflected back and forth between
the layers. This frequency happens to be 7,83Hz.
I have not studied the Schumann resonance in detail, and I'm not a Phd.
Maybe some other forum members can offer a explanation to why the
measured result frequency is different from the predicted one.
GL.
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When a real measurement is different from the predicted theoretical value, then one must
conclude that the theory is wrong.
Agreed.
I like your theory, but the observed frequency remains something of a mystery...
I suppose I'll just have to put it on the back-burner, and see what turns up...
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Agreed.
I like your theory, but the observed frequency remains something of a mystery...
I suppose I'll just have to put it on the back-burner, and see what turns up...
Tim,
Yea, you probably have to ask a person that have extensive knowledge about
wave guide theory, wave theory, transmission lines theory, cavity resonators etc.
On a more humorous note, maybe we got the speed of light wrong? :-)
Or maybe we got the size measurement of the Earth wrong? :-)
Change one or both and the math will confirm the actual measurement. :-)
GL.
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(The circumference of the earth at the equator is 40075,16 kilometers.
Speed of light, c = 299792458 meters per second.
Frequency = 299792458 / 40075160 = 7,48 Hz.)
The real frequency measured is 7,83Hz. When a real measurement
is different from the predicted theoretical value, then one must
conclude that the theory is wrong.
Really? Can't you think of any other reasons why a 'real measurement' could differ from a predicted theoretical value by less than 5 percent?
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Really? Can't you think of any other reasons why a 'real measurement' could differ from a predicted theoretical value by less than 5 percent?
Hi TK,
I am still mystified as to how the fundamental can be at 7.83Hz, given that wavelength is smaller than the earth's diameter...
Any ideas?
Regards, Tim
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To suck the lightning energy from the ground, you use a Resonant Impulse wave Generator, with the one side of the secondary connected to a good earth ground, and the other side of the coil to your output device. HV DC is the only way to create impulse waves that work the right way to suck that energy from the ground. Very abrupt Unidirectional Impulse currents , Make and Breaks. Real Tesla Coils use HV DC in a resonant tank. If current is consummed in the resonant tank, then the device won't work right.
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I actually wanted to try creating a resonant antenna around part of the garden - tuned to a harmonic of 7.83 - to see if it helped things to grow... I've read that it does.
I've been working on making deep-tone wind chimes too - also tuned. Also been playing with powered chimes...
I think there's energy to be harvested - if you can set up an earth resonance. And I think it has health benefits too... Probably. :)
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I strung out about 70m of wire in the garden earlier on. Wow, it's interesting!
I bought the DSO scope - because I knew it could do spectrum analysis - and I'm not disappointed.
I've got a strong peak at about 10Hz, and again at 20Hz. I'm not sure how accurate the scope is - but it seems to find the mains at 49.9Hz ok.
How cool is that? :)
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Interesting peaks at 3, 6 and 9 Khz, with 9 Khz dominant. It peaks as high as the <50Hz range...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency
"The frequency range below 9 kHz is not allocated by the International Telecommunication Union and may be used in some nations license-free."
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Hi TK,
I am still mystified as to how the fundamental can be at 7.83Hz, given that wavelength is smaller than the earth's diameter...
Any ideas?
Regards, Tim
I think the essence of your problem is that you are looking as the waveguide as a static entity while, in reality, there isn't anything static about it. Not only is the earth not round but different areas have different attributes and properties, i.e. mountains vs oceans. The ionosphere is not round or fixed either but pulsates with the pressure of the solar wind compressing and relaxing the magnetic field of the earth and while this is happening the earth with all of its surface irregularities is rotating inside that magnetic field and inside the ionosphere. The magnetic field also fluctuates due to variations in the Coriolis effect which affects the outer liquid metal core around the solid metal inner core of the earth. And at the same time the moon is tugging the surface of the oceans this way and that. A complex system to say the least.
I've been studying Dr. Tesla's work for the last few years and one of the things it inevitably leads to is a study of geophysics which didn't even exist as a science in his time yet that's what he was doing more or less. One of his goals at Colorado Springs was to determine the laws of propagation of currents through the earth and the atmosphere. His patent for the transmission of industrial scale power through the "natural media" stated that it would be accomplished between balloons at 30,000 feet. He did a demonstration for the patent examiner in his laboratory using a long evacuated tube to simulate the rarefied atmnosphere at that altitude. Another facet of that idea is that the air is not only rarefied at that altitude but it is also very cold which also enhances conductivity. He stated oiver and over that his method used conduction, not induction.
That was before he went to Colorado Springs. Early in Colorado Springs notes there is an entry about extraction of hydrogen from the air. Although not specifically stated, we can assume this was to maintain the ballons at altitude.
But on July 4, 1899 he made observations about lightning on the plains of Colorado that changed his entire perspective and when he built the Wardenclyffe tower it had extensive underground metal works. I contend that his idea was to generate the equivalent of lightning bolts with his Wardenclyffe device and pump the energy into the ground through the underground metal works.
An interesting note about this is that I've never seen anything where he attempted to maintain balloons at 30,000 feet to accomplish the transmission and that's just as well because he probably would have failed at that. The +250 MPH winds of the jet stream were unknown at the time and they reach into the 30,000 foot level which would make maintaining balloons at that level impossible.
If you want to study the Schumann resonance you'll need to spend quite a bit of time studying not only geophysics but also lightning itself. Very interesting stuff. I think that the unknowns still existing in the study of Schumann resonances could probably be resolved if the scientists studying them were to take a more multi-disipline approach and consider all of the things that affect the resonant cavity - from the sun and moon to the movement of the planet and the internal structure and forces that generate the magnetic field of the planet.
Someone in this thread mentioned if the speed of light were different it could make the calculations different. Note that we almost always say "the speed of light" but the full term is "the speed of light in a vacuum" which the surface/ionosphere cavity is not.
The attachment is my interpretation of what Wardenclyffe was intended to do and could also apply to teh Schumann frequency of natural lightning to some extent. I don't have the skills to do this in 3D but it should give you the idea. It's an animated GIF file so open it in your browser.
I'm not sure what happened when uploading the attachment but it doesn't work when downloaded from this site and it is a different size. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.filesnack.com/files/c7p5wi8p (http://www.filesnack.com/files/c7p5wi8p)
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Someone in this thread mentioned if the speed of light were different it could make the calculations different. Note that we almost always say "the speed of light" but the full term is "the speed of light in a vacuum" which the surface/ionosphere cavity is not.
Hi thx1138,
I did consider the speed of light as a variable, but it is at it's maximum in a vacuum, and the speed is less in air. That difference in speed is refractive index, so I read... A slower speed should give a lower frequency I think, not higher.
The speed of light in air: 299705000 m/s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light
"the time for light to propagate completely around the Earth is of the order of 140 milliseconds. This transit time is what causes the Schumann resonance. "
BUT, from: http://www.calcresult.com/electronics/frequency.html
140 milliseconds, at 299705000 m/s, gives 7.14 Hz
7.83 Hz gives:
Period = 127.7139208173691 mS - milliSeconds
Wavelength = 38276500.6385696 m
My own calcs came out the same. I still don't understand the difference...
Regards, Tim
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Tim123: You're looking at it too simplistically. How many things affect the propagation? Air density varies with different altitudes. Clouds are a different material than dry air. The shape of the waveguide is not uniform. Other lightning strikes will interfer either constructively or destructively with any particular previous puldse. The solar wind compresses and relaxes the ionosphere and the earth's magnetic field. etc.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." pretty much sums it up. As noted earlier, when there is a discrepancy between theory and actual measurements, use the actual measurements.
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Tim123: You're looking at it too simplistically.
I'm looking for a clear answer to a well defined question. I don't think that's being 'simplistic'.
I think you are being rather *vague* though, and i don't think any of the things you mention could have the effect in question.
As noted earlier, when there is a discrepancy between theory and actual measurements, use the actual measurements.
I'm not ready to 'use' it at this stage - I want to understand it first!
What I'm looking for is a single plausible explanation for the effect in question. Just one will do!
It probably exists. I've probably already read it, and just not understood it - due to being a bit slow. But right now it's still eluding me... And I think no one has given an answer to the question...
Regards, Tim
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Lightning is cold electricity, unlike the energy we use. Thats why people survive being struck by it. Didn't Tesla say that since his Wireless energy has no em field that it moves at 291,000 miles per second. So use that in your equation.
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It doesn't work out...
291,000 miles / s = 468,319,104 metres per second
7.83 Hz would mean the circumference of the earth is 59,810,868 metres
PS: It's not *my* equation, it's *the* equation... I didn't come up with it. lol. I can barely tie my shoes :D
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Hi Tim,
do not know where the Schumann Wave goes.
Either above Ground in the atmosphere or maybe it is a telluric (current) wave. (As far as I know, Tesla`s aim then was only telluric current).
Regards
magneto_DC
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Tank circuits at those frequency's i don't think so.
I would try and build something mechanical to target the magnetic component of the Schumann Resonance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XghAn9olnsI
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At Colorado Springs, Tesla used his magnifying transmitter in an attempt to artificially stimulate terrestrial standing waves. Based upon observations made with the device, Tesla reported that earth resonance modes involving an electric current flowing through the earth can be excited. He claimed to have discovered a fundamental earth resonance frequency of nearly 11.78 Hz, which is somewhat higher than the fundamental earth-ionosphere cavity Schumann resonance found to exist by researchers in the 1950s in the general vicinity of 7.3 Hz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnifying_transmitter
7.3? That's closer to the calculated value... I wonder if it's a typo?
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Actually it is constantly oscillating between two frequency's so it's not a constant value.
It speeds up then slows down between a min and max frequency with a change rate of about 1 Hz.
It's only an approximate with a center frequency somewhere between 7 and 8 Hertz.
This is easily discovered by doing experimentation.
Still the kinetic movement in a mechanical system is very low which translates into a low power output.
A better way is to target the electric field of the earth directly because then you can make it oscillate at any frequency you want and then you do not have to use mechanical means which is position dependant, causes more losses, needs maintance and replacement and which will wear down eventually so the all electric way is the preffered choice of mechanism.
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Turbo
How do we touch that energy from inside a vac Tube ,or is it catch and release ?
thx
Chet
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Well Chet, the first thing that you have to understand very clearly is the Earth's field components.
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Turbo
The Elephant in the room....
those are some Big Components ,and they are so very used to getting their own way!
However there is something profoundly obvious about those components being a source to harvest from.....I feel like the potential is similar to waking up in a sea of Fuel with a book of wet Matches ...Scary big potential!
thx
Chet
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Turbo
I have to say ,I've believed your claims for quite some time.
I believe the flea really can steer this Elephant !
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Ofcource it can the energy involved is insane but you have to make a decision first as to which circuit potential you are going to target.
The mechanisms are slightly different but the source of energy is always the earth's electric field.
Unless you are moving a coil through the earth's magnetic field that is the only exception but you would have to move it very fast to get to some usable output and it might cost a lot more energy to do that compared to what you get out.
In the other two cases you are using just voltage to offset or disturb the local environment so it reacts with a re balancing flux.
Normally people put a graetz diode bridge to a long wire and a ground terminal to tap the sky voltage but this does not deliver much energy at all and that is why you have to give the wire a high voltage charge to make it act as if it was hundreds of miles up in the air it is kinda like the electrical equivalent of the electromagnetic ferrite rod antenna to make things act as if they were huge.
So pick your component :)
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I've come across a few refs today to 7.3, 7.4 Hz...
http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_6_8_10.html
1. 1.855 Hz This is a Schuman resonance and is also seen in Rysmonic
GW resonance (÷ 2 Hz).
2. 3.710 Hz This is also seen in Schuman.
3. 7.42 Hz This is also seen in Schuman as a more pronounced
resonance.
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...three requirements seem to be essential to the establishment of the resonating condition.
First. The earth’s diameter passing through the pole should be an odd multiple of the quarter wave length-that is, of the ratio between the velocity of light-wand four times the frequency of the currents...
US Patent 787412
N. TESLA.
ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUMS.
So, practically for testing, I think I'll be using the 23rd harmonic at about 10m - 30Mhz I guess...
A quarter-wave monopole antenna would be 2.5m.
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...It's only an approximate with a center frequency somewhere between 7 and 8 Hertz.
This is easily discovered by doing experimentation.
H Turbo,
I've seen your magnetic spinners experiment - it's interesting - but I'm not 100% convinced that it's showing evidence of the Schumann resonance - rather than the mechanical resonance of the arrangement... Maybe it is, I'm not sure... Maybe I'll try it myself - it is the only way forward ;)
I think - traditional scientists used very very large coils indeed to detect / measure the Schumann resonance...
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If you pay attention you can see in the video description that the effect has been replicated and confirmed by other experimenters using different configurations and methodes please try it before you draw any conclusions to judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself is the highest form of ignorance.
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If you pay attention ...
It's ok Turbo, If you read what I wrote, you will see that I didn't dismiss, draw conclusions, or judge...
BTW - All your vids seem to have gone from your channel... I just looked - is it just me?
I think I will try the experiment... Can I just ask you a few questions:
1) Did you drive the coil with your audio amplifier and a signal generator?
2) The coil was toroidal right? So should emit minimum external flux...
3) The 2 ring magnets were placed on a mild-steel base - Correct?
Anything else I should know?
Regards, Tim
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I just found the original(?) of the magnet spinning at 7.8hz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJza3l8rmU
The very first comment (and it wasn't me!)
"Anyway this might be Shumann resonance, but far more likely it is just the mechanical resonance of the system which is based on the strength on the magnetic field and the sizes of the magnets happening to sit at about 7.8 hz."
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A 10 milliHenry inductor and a 41500 microFarad capacitor stack, placed in parallel, will make a tank circuit that will resonate at 7.8126 Hz.
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The second half of the quoted YouTube comment is correct. The clip is showing a mechanical resonance that just happens to be about the same frequency as the Schumann resonance. The Schumann resonance is over hyped. I am not aware of any useful applications that take advantage of it's existence. It's like being in an underground echo chamber. It sits there passively and will only respond if you stimulate it with a source of sound waves.
That's in contrast to the reflective layer of the ionosphere as a whole. The classic example is radio communications that are assisted by bouncing their transmissions off of the ionosphere. Also, when there are a lot of charged particles streaming into the magnetic poles from solar activity they create new temporary mirrors shooting up from the poles. Ham radio operators try to take advantage of the situation.
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In order to utilize something that has a very low wavelength one needs an electrically very large structure. It has happened by accident infrequently and caused a lot of trouble. But if proper precautions could be taken then something like transcontinental transmission lines might be manipulated to advantage.
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I just found the original(?) of the magnet spinning at 7.8hz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJza3l8rmU
The very first comment (and it wasn't me!)
"Anyway this might be Shumann resonance, but far more likely
To judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself, or to blindly believe others is the highest form of ignorance.
And it's not the original vid the original one i uploaded to google video.
I am sorry that i do not take the time to answer your questions, this is due to my belief that you have already made up your mind and this is the incorrect approach.
The YouTube comment is correct.
I am not aware
To judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself, or to blindly believe what others say, is the highest form of ignorance.
This effect has been replicated by several people using different setup and methodes.
And it seems that people are completely missing the eleph... i mean poynt.
Well exept for Mr. Chet that is.
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Turbo:
To judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself, or to blindly believe what others say, is the highest form of ignorance.
This effect has been replicated by several people using different setup and methodes.
I think there is great irony in your statement. I looked at the clip of the wobbling magnets and I know that it has nothing to do with the Schumann resonance. I do not have to try it myself, the clip is clearly showing the wobbling behaviour of the magnets and I have no doubt if I did the same experiment I would observe the same thing. I am not blindly believing anybody, my comments come from myself only. I am not the least bit surprised that the effect has been replicated by several people.
The problem lies in observing the phenomenon and then just blindly attributing it to the Schumann resonance. What evidence is there for this statement? That the frequencies are the same? That's not evidence, that's just a coincidence.
You are the one that is apparently blindly believing that the effect has something to do with the Schumann resonance because that's what others say. Apparently the fact that it has been replicated by others reinforces your belief.
Loot at what the clip is showing you: It's a basic LC resonator where the spring is the magnetic field attraction and the mass is the mass of the wobbling magnet. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to to with the passive electromagnetic resonance cavity of the Earth. Don't blindly believe that it does just because other people are telling you that.
MileHigh
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Yep. The fact that a mechanical resonance is stimulated by a 7.8 Hz signal is just a coincidence. The really interesting thing about that video is that the pulsations are being transferred to the magnets by a "core effect" toroidally wound coil. Recall that such a coil has very little leakage of the actual B field produced by the coil; it's all trapped inside the toroid. What happens when it is energised is that the core is driven into magnetic saturation, which _reduces_ the pull experienced from the external ring magnet. When the current is removed from the core-effect coil, the attraction is restored! And the polarity of the current is relatively unimportant. This seems exactly backwards from traditional electromagnet behaviour, and it is. The core effect needs more exploration as an energy transfer phenomenon, and can be used to make really neat pulse motors (Steorn's eOrbos from the Waterways demonstration, for example.)
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To judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself, or to blindly believe others is the highest form of ignorance.
That's three times you've said that.
A wise man once told me: "You can only judge yourself".
Or, in other words: "You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things." (Romans 2:1)
It makes it really easy to know what people are really like - you just wait til they tell you what they think of you...
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..The really interesting thing about that video is that ... seems exactly backwards from traditional electromagnet behaviour, and it is.
Thanks for pointing that out TK :)
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Tim123
To have predjudice with out examination is always a poor path..........
However Being a rather poor man myself as well as having commitments that I should be paying more attention to [Not so much OU commitments ,I make things for handicapped Children and their families to increase their quality of life. I get distracted too easily with this much bigger picture of OU and what It would do for this planet.]
So My time is small and it seems my path some what chosen
and I understand this could also be aproblem for you Too [the time and money commitment]
I will support you any way I can in this endeavor ,if you could ask Stephan for Moderator Priviledges to keep off topic or posts distracting from the replications off the page.
I will commit towards financially subsidising your build to the best of my ability.
Thx
Chet
ps
I am sending you a contact .
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That's three times you've said that.
A wise man once told me: "You can only judge yourself".
Or, in other words: "You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things." (Romans 2:1)
It makes it really easy to know what people are really like - you just wait til they tell you what they think of you...
Nowhere and no one i am judging.
I am pointing out to the FACT that one should not draw conclusions based on what they THINK or what OTHER people say, and take that for granted blindly, and, that if one wants to know the truth they will have to find it themselves it is the only way.
Besides that, you are totally missing the important points i conveyed in this and other threads.
That is, like Chet pointed out, indeed a very big elephant in the room.
If you do not understand this then i think you do not understand what judgment actually means.
In this world, words are of no value, but repeatble tests and comparison of their results are.
It is that simple.
So unless you want to share test results, i do not value you input it is easy to say look at this link look at what he says but no.
Like i said, If you really want to know and discover things that is the wrong approach.
It is either find out or shut up.
I have a ton of very real data to share but it is impossible to share it with somebody who is only talking and who has got his mind made up.
I am looking for people with an open mind to share results with so we can proceed in improving the technology and those people are hard to find.
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Turbo:
I looked at the clip and I know
MileHigh
Bravo ! that's the way to go...
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Nowhere and no one i am judging...
But you are. I'm only going to show you this once. It's *your* responsibility to pay attention, and be a decent human being:
I said quite clearly that I was not sure:
...I'm not 100% convinced that it's showing evidence of the Schumann resonance - rather than the mechanical resonance of the arrangement... Maybe it is, I'm not sure... Maybe I'll try it myself - it is the only way forward ;)
You said:
To judge or dismiss something that you have not tried yourself, or to blindly believe others is the highest form of ignorance.
I am sorry that i do not take the time to answer your questions, this is due to my belief that you have already made up your mind...
You bizarrely decided that I had 'made up my mind' - when I had just stated that I had not.
It is obviously a judgement - because it's not true. If it's not true of me - then you must be judging yourself - there is no other possibility.
Anyway - let's get on with the technical matter at hand... Can you think of any way to change the experiment to eliminate the chance of mechanical resonance?
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I sure can. Or rather, to vary the frequency at which it occurs.
What you are trying to test is whether the mechanical resonance occurs at 7.8 Hz due to the influence of the Schumann resonance, or only due to the drive of the FG and the mechanical parameters of the external magnets. If the latter, changing one of those parameters should change the mechanical resonant frequency. If the former, it's hard to see why making that same change would have any effect.
So set up exactly as before, and use some modelling clay to increase the moving mass of the two vertical magnets. Then use the FG to drive the coil as before. Do you still see the strong resonance at 7.8 Hz, or at some other frequency? If at some other frequency, is it higher or lower than before?
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Well, I've just been re-reading Tesla's patents on wireless energy transmission... His understanding of geophysics was pretty awesome...
His transmitter was designed to operate at a harmonic of the earth's natural frequency, and it seems he found the resonances at about 6 and 12 Hz. That would make a lot more sense - because it can include the ionosphere...
I could detect no significant 8Hz signal with my antenna experiments. So it's hard to imagine how it might affect the spin of little magnets...
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Talking about Tesla, secret patents, and HAARP... I think it's possible he invented the 'ionospheric heater' in order to make it oscillate...
It would mean that we were inside a capacitor - where the plates were moving back & forth with a fixed period...
If Tesla could have made the ionosphere oscillate with a given period, it would then be possible to build tuned capacitive 'energy sucking' antennas - anywhere on earth - to draw power directly from the ionosphere.
Now that really would be *free energy*
I assume that the ionosphere would have various natural modes of oscillation, and it would probably be quite easy to pick one, and set it off.
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Tesla's system was designed to draw power from the ground not the atmosphere.
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Tesla's system was designed to draw power from the ground not the atmosphere.
It depends which system you're talking about.
His 'magnifying transmitter' used a ground to air circuit, and power could be taken off by 2 plates just in the ground.
The system I was referring to is different.
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Talking about Tesla, secret patents, and HAARP... I think it's possible he invented the 'ionospheric heater' in order to make it oscillate...
It would mean that we were inside a capacitor - where the plates were moving back & forth with a fixed period...
If Tesla could have made the ionosphere oscillate with a given period, it would then be possible to build tuned capacitive 'energy sucking' antennas - anywhere on earth - to draw power directly from the ionosphere.
Now that really would be *free energy*
I assume that the ionosphere would have various natural modes of oscillation, and it would probably be quite easy to pick one, and set it off.
no more in internet here some "evolution of Tesla science" :(
I removed
not relevant to the topic
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I think you need to watch this set of films !
if your interested in facts about the earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwHbpEL6UB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHbUXnW8zQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aHO2Lurlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGWiicF-BQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMlzIPlpXqU
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It depends which system you're talking about.
His 'magnifying transmitter' used a ground to air circuit, and power could be taken off by 2 plates just in the ground.
The system I was referring to is different.
Hello Tim123, I ve read this whole thread and I ve seen you ve quote some bible verses, and I have a huge thing to ask if you have some free time and you may be willing to help me and who knows, maybe you too by applying the same math you use to calculate for the planet earth and apply it on the Earth described in Bible in the Genesis and maybe you let me know what data you came up with , what would be its size and what else can you calculate out of the data you find in the bible ? I m asking you as I have mostly no experience in electronics, and truly hope you will find it interesting enough to try to find out the outcome.
Tesla has a very interesting quote that also supports the model in the bible so who knows where these leads:
"Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment. Earth is also a machine. It is a tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also suspends the celestial spheres with electromagnetic levitation. Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is the electromagnetic force,"
Hope I m not losing anyone's time here , it might be just harder to swallow for some readers.
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F.Y.I.
NOTE: This was originally posted in the Westey thread however it has since been censored (removed). Two very good papers regarding Schumann Resonance are included below so it is reposted here for those that might be interested in some valid proven scientific information.
[Pre-] Review of the "Schumann-Kapanadze" postulation
Literature suggests (first paper - see below) that at low frequencies the earth/ionosphere cavity does support the formation of a set of maxima power sprectra in the vertical electric and horizontal magnetic fields.
To investigate this further we will first conduct an initial CAE Comsol analysis; as outlined in the second referenced paper (see below), before attempting further review and analysis of the postulation under discussion. It appears the Schumann models using Comsol Multiphysics have already been developed and tested.
1. Extremely Low Frequency(ELF) Radio Wave Propagation: A review (IJEAR)
https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdf (https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdf)
Abstract
The Extremely Low Frequencies (ELF) extend from 3 Hz to 3 kHz. This formal limit corresponds to real physical phenomena in subionospheric radio propagation: the Schumann Resonance (SR) observed in the band between 4Hzand 40 Hz and the transverse resonance having the basic frequency about 1.7 kHz. When speaking about ELF radio waves, we usually have in mind the subionospheric propagation when electromagnetic wave travels in the spherical dielectric stratum formed by the Earth‟s surface and the lower edge of the ionospheric plasma. The dielectric shell has a small thickness of about 60–100 km in comparison with the Earth‟s radius of ~6366 km. This non-conducting layer forms a spherical cavity resonator, with two sets of eigen-values. One of them corresponds to the global electromagnetic resonance predicted by Schumann[1952], which is often regarded as SR. Its peak frequencies (frequencies of maxima in the power spectra of natural ELF radio noise) are approximately 8, 14, 20, Hz, etc. At such low frequencies, only transverse electromagnetic (TEM) wave propagates in the cavity having the non-zero vertical electric Erand horizontal magnetic Hjfield components. If we account for the finite ground conductivity, a small longitudinal electric field Eqappears. It is clear that we use the spherical polar coordinate system (r, q, j) with the origin at the Earth's center and the polar q= 0 axis directed to the vertical electric dipole source.
Owing to small losses and a great wavelength, the resonance signals can multiply & circle the globe, so that direct and antipodal waves interfere forming a set of maxima in the power spectrum of vertical electric or horizontal magnetic fields positioned at the above-mentioned frequencies. Lightning strokes of the global thunderstorms occurring at the rate of 50–100 discharges per second serve as the source of natural ELFradio noise. SR might be regarded as “longitudinal” one: it occurs in the waves propagating along the Earth‟s surface.
The second type of resonance corresponds to vertically propagating radio waves, therefore,it is called the transverse resonance.Relevant waves are capturedbetween the ground and ionosphere, so that their basic frequency depends on the ionosphere height and is equal to 1.7 kHz when the thickness of the ground–ionosphere gap is 88 km. Transverse resonance is a local phenomenon, because it is not linked with the round-the-world propagation. In radio engineering, the eigen-values of transverse resonance are regardedas cutoff frequencies of the modes propagating in the Earth–ionosphere duct. The basic frequency is the cut-off frequency of the first-order mode, the second-order mode has the cutoff equal to the doubled basic frequency of transverse resonance, etc. Obviously, only the basic transverse resonance frequency definitely belongs to the ELF band, while the higher-order modes arefound within the very low frequency (VLF) band.
2. Theoretical and experimental studies of electromagneticresonances in the ionospheric cavities of planets andsatellites; instrument and mission perspectives - Thesis by Fernando Dos Santos Simoes
https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00811520/document (https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00811520/document)
Abstract (in part)
The study of extremely low frequency electromagnetic wave propagation in the ionospheric cavities of celestial bodies in the Solar System follows an approach similar to that developed for Earth. It contributes to the characterization of the atmospheric electric circuit and associated energy sources, and to the identification of the inner and outer cavity boundaries. A wave propagation finite element model is developed and applied to all planets and satellites surrounded by an atmosphere, with the aim of studying, in particular, the Schumann resonance phenomenon. The input parameters of the model are: (a) the geometry of the cavity, (b) the ionized atmosphere characteristics, (c) the neutral atmosphere refractivity and (d) the top subsurface complex permittivity. The simulation yields the eigenfrequency and Q-factors of the resonance and the distribution of the electric field in the cavity.
Of particular interest is where this author uses COMSOL CAE : "The numerical model to study wave propagation is based on several tools available in the COMSOL Multiphysics software, which uses the finite element method to solve specific equations."
This will allow for a quick comparison of supported Schumann resonance frequencies with those known, from EM CAE analysis and subsequent VNA tests of the so called grenade coil, to have been used in the Kapanadze generation device.
Although this post will likely be censored (removed as many others have been), I will post it anyway - just to maintain the committment that "We're at least 'trying' to do 'our' part!" by investigating, to the best of our ability, theoretically wise, various claims of excess energy.
[EDIT: This post was censored (removed) from westeys thread as predicted.] Also; unfortunately it is now confirmed that this forum has become unusable, especially to those that are interested in valid science and engineering development. Too bad!
The attached papers are long and very technical in nature but contain some excellent information regarding Schumann Resonance.
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Schumann waves are so low-power that they require high-sensitive receivers to be detected. They are many orders of magnitude weaker than any normal electro-smog.
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Schumann waves are so low-power that they require high-sensitive receivers to be detected. They are many orders of magnitude weaker than any normal electro-smog.
I agree with you, skywatcher. I answered the same to SolarLab but my post has also been suppressed by Wesley (among many others).
Here is it again:
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Exceptional paper, great study, SolarLab, thanks!
This is really the most comprehensive study I have seen on the subject, with many experimental results.
We see that attenuations at Schumann frequencies are considerable, e. g. more than 140 to 150 dB over distances of the order of 16,000 to 18,000 Km, although the attenuation per Mm is low (about 1 dB): indeed they are essentially standing waves, not progressive, so the attenuation is global when we establish them.
There are some causes of attenuation that I hadn't thought of, such as the resistivity of the air, which increases it even more, or the 11-year cycle of solar activity.
A simple way to find out is to test the mains frequencies of 50 and 60 Hz. In Europe, where the frequency is 50 Hz, the 60 Hz signal from America, generated by thousands of amperes travelling in thousands of kilometers of high-voltage lines powered by hundreds of KV, is barely above the background noise!
The idea that standing waves of an amplitude compatible with energy transmission can exist around the earth as in a copper waveguide with high Q factor, is simply ridiculous, and supported by no facts.
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Hi F6FLT,
Just a quick note; based on the cited papers and lack of any other presented technical
information with respect to tying SR with Kapanadze, we have suspended further analysis,
or any other study, of westey's "claims."
However; we have developed a very interesting "Ruslan Generator" "Test-Set" by partitioning
this system into three seperate modules [HV gen; System Primary coil; and System
Secondary (output) coil].
Integrating these modules with T&M instruments [FG/Arb, Scope, VNA], Control software
and CAE [full EM and schematic simu] makes for a pretty substantial test, analysis and
optimization capability. And, it's not that expensive to cobble together considering it's
overall sophistication with broad parameter characterization. So far - some amazing stuff!
We are planning on publishing the approach as a "Test-Set" feature in the very near future (when
it has been properly documented, and with a few examples included).
Will publish on a better forum (properly moderated and more friendly towards developers).
This post will most probably "misteriously disappear" as well. Oh well, so be it; it contains nothing.
SL
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solar lab quote Wesley,Your unlawful redirection of a copywright web page has been reported to the originator.
https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdfThe (https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdfThe)
Hope they find it as cute as I did! (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)) Thanks again...
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531693/#msg531693 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531693/#msg531693)
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Sir, you write like a smart fellow ,Now seems even a Barrister ... but then you seem to have great voids in your logic and knowledge
truly more what a child would write ,a complete lack of comprehension of censorship .
and a persons Blog ....[which you obviously know but choose to throw stones at Stefan
implying fantasies of removal here in this thread .SL Quote This post will most probably "misteriously disappear" as well.
Persons who violate TOS ,just like people who would break into your home ....there are rules.
Here in public Domain [not Wesley world} Stefan will never and has never touched a post which falls under compliance with TOS.
Get over it ,and please feel free to not censor your open source forum choice ?
But playing in Wesley's Blog / house and expecting to rearrange his furniture or ?... that is childish entitlement .
Start your own Blog/thread or post as you did here.... in one of the the other 7 million threads and topics at this forum.
yeesh
one thing is certain ,your post above will stand for and represent [whether real or imagined on your part]the consequences of Law ...and your seeming double standard when rules apply to yourself .
but at the very least an eye opener for persons who think no need of TOS or cry censorship when they violate.
thank you for the lesson ,it will serve Stefan well here [example],that trigger happy lawyers and persons like yourself are just one of many reasons Stefan has rules and why Knuckleheads who break the TOS in his house get removed.
just like they would in your house or mine..........
but I must admit not so much your example above ...but other things being written in Wesley Blog about one member here ?? might be concerning as far as TOS
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solar lab quote Wesley,Your unlawful redirection of a copywright web page has been reported to the originator.
https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdfThe (https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdfThe)
Hope they find it as cute as I did! (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)) Thanks again...
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531693/#msg531693 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531693/#msg531693)
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Sir, you write like a smart fellow ,Now seems even a Barrister ... but then you seem to have great voids in your logic and knowledge
truly more what a child would write ,a complete lack of comprehension of censorship .
and a persons Blog ....[which you obviously know but choose to throw stones at Stefan
implying fantasies of removal here in this thread .SL Quote This post will most probably "misteriously disappear" as well.
Persons who violate TOS ,just like people who would break into your home ....there are rules.
Here in public Domain [not Wesley world} Stefan will never and has never touched a post which falls under compliance with TOS.
Get over it ,and please feel free to not censor your open source forum choice ?
But playing in Wesley's Blog / house and expecting to rearrange his furniture or ?... that is childish entitlement .
Start your own Blog/thread or post as you did here.... in one of the the other 7 million threads and topics at this forum.
yeesh
one thing is certain ,your post above will stand for and represent [whether real or imagined on your part]the consequences of Law ...and your seeming double standard when rules apply to yourself .
but at the very least an eye opener for persons who think no need of TOS or cry censorship when they violate.
thank you for the lesson ,it will serve Stefan well here [example],that trigger happy lawyers and persons like yourself are just one of many reasons Stefan has rules and why Knuckleheads who break the TOS in his house get removed.
just like they would in your house or mine..........
but I must admit not so much your example above ...but other things being written in Wesley Blog about one member here ?? might be concerning as far as TOS
Well, it is what it appears to be. TOS or not!
The link was altered, this alteration was brought to the threads attention,
and the altered link was not fixed, but then completely removed.
So, the lesson is:
Information (directly relating to, and valuable to, a subject) is, in the end,
suppressed for no apparent reason; and then the presenter of this valuable
information is now in violation of the forum's TOS -
- for; first, presenting the information and;
- second, for reporting the link's address alteration.
Also, no specific reference to this TOS violation is given, no offending post(s)
are cited or any otherwise explaination of these "violations" of TOS.
Well, it IS what it appears to BE!
You fellas make up these rules and adjudicate them
- we humble participants have, and are, just attempting
to contribute valuable information.
We get it!
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well .. you absolutely don't Get it...you want special privileges to unmoderate the blog spots ??
Wesley has written his TOS in his blog , which are autonomous of Forum TOS but must respect them.
in other words you can post anything your heart desires on the other 7 million topics here and even start you very own topic [suggested many times] obey TOS and your posts will remain untouched for millennia... for all to see.....to insinuate otherwise makes you disingenuous at best .
But thats not what you want is it ??
you want special treatment in Wesley's house/Blog ,to write anything you please ...or you will hold your breathe and stomp your feet and attempt to defame the entire forum.and write insinuating Lies .There have never been words removed from this forum unless they were against Laws of the land ..or in your case ,as an uninvited guest in someones autonomous blog spot.
There are others here with the same moderator Blog privilege...Bruce TPU... itseung88 [and some others ??]
maybe go and write over there and stomp your feet and hold your breathe ..when they catch you in the house and throw you out
??
instead of trying to generate legal issues for this forum thru sneaky tactics.
which to be honest I don't understand ....except to say that ultimately Stefan could be held responsible as the owner...But you know that too....and have written your disdain for his forum...if you can;t have your way then it should all go away....and that does make you more of a threat than the average Child who plays such games .
Here I must add a comment ,my personal experience with Member F6FLT ,i know his work for many years .
[almost ten ?] and have always heard he is too hard on beginners at the forums ,[no comment whatsoever here about Wesley]and he did leave some forums years ago due to persons like itseung 88 and his many undocumented claims .
his way of raising the bar here to bring back the many skilled and trained members who also left this forum for the very same reason is evident in his postings..... asking for experiments that can be performed to prove claims .the OPEN SOURCE talent pool here is a monster waiting for a piece of meat.
and F6FLT is passionate about trying to set the table [finding true anomalies ....
I however also have much respect for Wesley's work [and obvious life experience ] and would prefer he be able to explorehis path ...to a conclusion .
and help others to understand .
but at the end of the day...experiments are what is needed .
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Your defense arguments, IMHO, are fool hardy at best. So, let us stick to the facts. A couple that immediately come to mind:
Westey claimed a while back that a "3 phase" capacitor in the Turks demo was the "KapGen Secret." It was simply pointed
out to him, that, without further explaination, the capacitor was nothing more than a simple "3 phase" compensation device.
Westey recently claimed (in Polish only) that a couple of random screen captures and related Zennick waves were the
"KapGen Secret." It was simply pointed out to him, that, without further explaination, that Zennick waves and the captures
did not stand up to even the simplest of analysis.
There are no insinuations implied what so ever - just facts - simple, unrefutable, facts.
My actions have not placed the forum in legal, or any other, jeopardy - BUT Westey's actions may well have.
Think about it and consider - actual "actions" cause consequence - NOT the simple act of bringing those "actions" to light!
Not the least bit interested in "posts remaining for a millenia" [journals and other publications do just fine for that]
BUT what does concern many of us is truth, honesty and integrity; and keeping unchecked BS to a minimum if at all possible.
This is not a game...
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You know what I refer to here , your "reporting" makes you the prime mover here [legal action
Side stepping and pointing to Wesley is a joke ,all of this would also have sat here for millennia if not for your efforts !!
and then add your intimations of full spectrum censorship at this forum ??fantasy extraordinaire .
on another note
perhaps you can explain how you can post a link here but Wesley cannot ?I admit my ignorance .
RE Wesley's work
you must also realize that a very large percentage of this community believes in WardenCliffe and its purpose .would be very good to investigate that one way or the other ,perhaps we let that happen here ??
also I have to mention one thing since I have your ear....that fellow you pointed to a few weeks back Beelziwuz or what ever his handle was [German guy],sent the most horrific threatening messages to members here [threatening Wesley and others ],and was remove By Stefan as a result .nothing at all to do with censorship [YOUR big parade calling out this forum as a place where people are censored]all of that guys info is still right here ,as well as all the info from others who did the same and where removed.
you obey TOS and you stay ,you don't you go away .[sometimes that process takes way too long IMObut this is not my Forum ,Stefan is quite tolerant ,but he has his limits.can you please explain the legal issue wth a document you posted here and somehow when Wesley touched it he broke some law ?is that what happened ?
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You know what I refer to here , your "reporting" makes you the prime mover here [legal action
Side stepping and pointing to Wesley is a joke ,all of this would also have sat here for millennia if not for your efforts !!
and then add your intimations of full spectrum censorship at this forum ??fantasy extraordinaire .
on another note
perhaps you can explain how you can post a link here but Wesley cannot ?I admit my ignorance .
RE Wesley's work
you must also realize that a very large percentage of this community believes in WardenCliffe and its purpose .would be very good to investigate that one way or the other ,perhaps we let that happen here ??
also I have to mention one thing since I have your ear....that fellow you pointed to a few weeks back Beelziwuz or what ever his handle was [German guy],sent the most horrific threatening messages to members here [threatening Wesley and others ],and was remove By Stefan as a result .nothing at all to do with censorship [YOUR big parade calling out this forum as a place where people are censored]all of that guys info is still right here ,as well as all the info from others who did the same and where removed.
you obey TOS and you stay ,you don't you go away .[sometimes that process takes way too long IMObut this is not my Forum ,Stefan is quite tolerant ,but he has his limits.can you please explain the legal issue wth a document you posted here and somehow when Wesley touched it he broke some law ?is that what happened ?
Let me end this by re-stating:
Facts are facts! They do not change no matter the retoric...
BUT what does concern many of us is truth, honesty and integrity; and keeping
unchecked BS to a minimum if at all possible.
Have a nice day!
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good that we agree ,your petty "he said this and he said that" about Wesley as if he is some final word on a public forum or would have one iota of control over this Group of "show me" builders ?
a complete and total joke IMO ... Much more serious are your attacks on the forum [Stefan] and its integrity ,these facts flow thru your recent posts... and your legal action/report here with complete disregard for Stefan ??
as well your well documented comments against his forum .... speak volumes !
fair thee well, peddle your censorship delusions elsewhere !
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F.Y.I.
ICANN Calls for Full DNSSEC Deployment, Promotes Community Collaboration to Protect the Internet
LOS ANGELES – 21 February 2019 – The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) believes that there is an ongoing and significant risk to key parts of the Domain Name System (DNS) infrastructure.
Details ICANN Announcements
22 Feb 2019 Announcement Technology
... ""
Public reports indicate that there is a pattern of multifaceted attacks utilizing different methodologies. Some of the attacks target the DNS, in which unauthorized changes to the delegation structure of domain names are made, replacing the addresses of intended servers with addresses of machines controlled by the attackers.
This particular type of attack, which targets the DNS, only works when DNSSEC is not in use. DNSSEC is a technology developed to protect against such changes by digitally 'signing' data to assure its validity.
Although DNSSEC cannot solve all forms of attack against the DNS, when it is used, unauthorized modification to DNS information can be detected, and users are blocked from being misdirected.
"" ...
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-22-en (https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-22-en)
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SolarLab...more in your field of science ,maybe your Parker probe looks for Clues to the next.....extinction cycle ??? what are your thoughts ?is there any Meat to this theory ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bduDeZ4GA0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bduDeZ4GA0c)
perhaps Elon's tunneling equipment is actually part of some bigger investment project ?
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... "he said this and he said that" about Wesley...
It's always interesting to know what's illusive, what's wrong and what to avoid. ;D
- Surface/Zenneck/Schumann waves in Kapanadze: none factual evidence
- Surface/Zenneck/Schumann waves around the earth: just above the background noise, at least 99.99999999% of energy is lost.
- "Zenneck surface wave does not radiate": false. They radiate by definition since they are "electromagnetic plane wave".
- "tune to existing surface wave created in natural Schumann waveguide and extract energy from there": already done, only µV noise (http://www.vlf.it/Schumann/schumann.htm).
- "tune to existing surface wave created in natural Schumann waveguide and extract energy from there": absurd mix. A surface wave doesn't need a "waveguide" because by nature, its "waveguide" is the surface itself. The surface alone is enough, that's the whole point of a surface wave, no need for ionized layers.
- "Zenneck Wave does not radiate in Far Field": false. Even radio long waves propagate over distance of up to hundreds times their wavelength. Almost all listeners of AM stations are in the far field and these radio waves are surface waves. At 2 Km from an AM broadcasting transmitter, you are in the far field! And you don't receive anything? :o
- "two horn transmission where significant portion of the microwave horn is below the earth surface": Zenneck microwaves from a horn half buried at the earth's surface, when even a window terribly attenuate the SHF, it's the ultimate nonsense! laughable. ::)
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Non-exhaustive list. It is endless and getting longer every day. It sounds like the opinion of lab security guards or laboratory cleaners about the mysterious devices they see or about obscure words (for them) from the scientists they hear.
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F6FLT,
Just wondering - any "Old Crows" under your bed?
SL
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F6FLT,
Just wondering - any "Old Crows" under your bed?
SL
What do you mean (expression related to a specific culture should be avoided because the forum is international)?
I can answer about methodological or technical points in science, beyond that it's difficult for me.
Thanks
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I doesn't matter Zenneck or Norton waves or EM waves or polarized EM or electrostatic induction - stiveip did not explained actual mechanism to obtain energy from ambient field. The transmission factor although important is not where we will find free energy. Tesla knew about Zenneck waves in 1916 and still insisted that the best way of using them is to transmitt energy from natural existing sources like power generators working with waterfalls
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I have recently spoken to a few persons who reminded me of Tesla's 193? Pierce arrow
seems they knew a great deal about this car.a car which Drove around with a very big whip antennae and a huge electric motor,No ICE [internal combustion engine]had some gizzmo in the glove box ??
F6FLT ...have you researched this ? or anybody else here have more in the way of "Documentation" and not Lore ? Being in the NY area where the car was said to travel ?? I could chase down leads ?I had spoken years back with the Tesla museum at Wardenclyffe .. and have friends who grew up with Stanford Whites family.... at the time I was trying to work to get Eric Dollard involved in a powerless transmission demonstration there [borderlands??] ,but others took hold of Eric ...and who knows what is going on there now??
will ask around to see what I can find out in the coming month....about the car ?"?
anyhoo
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//on another note...I think SolarLab writes about "Lore/Tales" with his "Old Dead Crows under his bed" comment.
What some people will try for a good nights sleep///Yeesh// is he selling them ?? has he done a control experiment ?[placebo??] website ??
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I have recently spoken to a few persons who reminded me of Tesla's 193? Pierce arrow
seems they knew a great deal about this car.a car which Drove around with a very big whip antennae and a huge electric motor,No ICE [internal combustion engine]had some gizzmo in the glove box ??
F6FLT ...have you researched this ? or anybody else here have more in the way of "Documentation" and not Lore ? Being in the NY area where the car was said to travel ?? I could chase down leads ?I had spoken years back with the Tesla museum at Wardenclyffe .. and have friends who grew up with Stanford Whites family.... at the time I was trying to work to get Eric Dollard involved in a powerless transmission demonstration there [borderlands??] ,but others took hold of Eric ...and who knows what is going on there now??
will ask around to see what I can find out in the coming month....about the car ?"?
anyhoo
Hi ramset. All indications are that the Pierce Arrow car claim was a hoax perpetuated by someone on the
internet a number of year ago, and the myth has continued to develop from there, like so many other things
claimed about Tesla which also typically cannot be supported by any actual evidence. For example, the claims
that Tesla has supposedly spoken or written about free energy in the sense of 'over unity' appears to not have
any actual evidence behind it at all.
Here's an overview of the apparent Tesla Pierce Arrow story hoax:
"The Nikola Tesla electric car hoax is an anecdote that refers to a supposed Nikola Tesla invention described by Peter Savo,
who claimed to be a nephew of Tesla, to Derek Ahers in 1967. Savo said that Tesla took him to Buffalo, New York in 1931
and showed him a modified Pierce-Arrow car.
Tesla, according to the story, had removed the gasoline engine from the car and replaced it with a brushless AC electric motor.
The motor was said to have been run by a "cosmic energy power receiver" consisting of a box measuring about 25 inches long by
10 inches wide by 6 inches high, containing 12 radio vacuum tubes and connected to a 6-foot-long (1.8 m) antenna. The car was
said to have been driven for about 50 miles at speeds of up to 90 mph during an eight-day period.
The story has received some debate because the car's propulsion system is said to have been invented by Tesla. No physical evidence
has ever been produced confirming that the car actually existed. Tesla did not have a nephew by the name of Peter Savo, and Tesla's
grand-nephew William Terbo considers the Tesla electric car story to be a fabrication. A number of web pages exist that perpetuate the tale.
Every account of this purported demonstration automobile is based upon the story plus literary embellishment."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_electric_car_hoax
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So 7.8 Hz, so what's all this fuss about, I don't find anything special about that frequency at all 8hz yes!
whenever I build a Katcher or Tesla coil I read off the frequency and divide it by 8 and I always get a base 8 with no
rollover (remainder) if it's a base72 (8/9) then it's also a base 9 as well and in tune with us humans. One strange thing I have noticed a sort of pulling to base 8 when forcibly changing the operating frequency.
I have to ask you guys do you get stuff out of threads and here say and then argue about it on here to try and make it fact or what, experiment your self and get some decent test equipment!!
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Maybe Tesla Pierce Arrow is a myth but there were others with electric car powered by ether. Like Perrigo, Earl C.Amman and his brother.
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I doesn't matter Zenneck or Norton waves or EM waves or polarized EM or electrostatic induction - stiveip did not explained actual mechanism to obtain energy from ambient field.
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Hi Forest,
I think it's as important as knowing that he doesn't explain anything operational, because the information he gives is false or distorted. This can mislead the group.
Anyone, especially newcomers to physics, should know the high risk of failure if they rely on his material, a very poor scientific popularization, not even really scientific often. To go further, we must base our ideas on real knowledge, not pseudo-scientific gibberish mixing the true and the false.
I have recently spoken to a few persons who reminded me of Tesla's 193? Pierce arrow
seems they knew a great deal about this car.a car which Drove around with a very big whip antennae and a huge electric motor,No ICE [internal combustion engine]had some gizzmo in the glove box ??
F6FLT ...have you researched this ? or anybody else here have more in the way of "Documentation" and not Lore ? Being in the NY area where the car was said to travel ??
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There is an urban legend around Tesla. I stick to his patents and writings, not to what others say about him, that he would have done, because these are less smart than Tesla. So if the great Tesla failed, they won't be able to tell us why, and what should be done about it, when they themselves have never done anything.
Tesla has always shown the reality of his inventive capacity by demonstrating that his machines work. I never saw him mention overunity.
If he has failed with remote energy transmission, there are good reasons. He was a brilliant inventor but not as good a physicist as Maxwell. Remote energy transmission involves using either directional beams (e. g. microwaves or lasers) or a near field (distance < wavelength) otherwise you have the attenuation you see for radio waves.
Tesla has invested efforts in the second method. To transmit far away, it is therefore necessary a long wavelength, therefore low frequencies. The problem is that we are quickly limited, because the radiating elements must have a size at least of the order of a quarter wave, otherwise the efficiency drops drastically. With a 1 km high tower, we can hope to transmit useful energy 1 or 2 km around, with an efficiency of about 50%. At Schumann's frequencies to cover the earth, it would take a tower of at least 3700 km (2300 miles)!
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The schematics Wesley has republished recently on his thread look interesting but are so blurred I can't work on them to translate
and we would need more information on the wound coil data or photo to be of help, how about some more focus on that section?
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Maybe Tesla Pierce Arrow is a myth but there were others with electric car powered by ether. Like Perrigo, Earl C.Amman and his brother.
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Johan great to see you....were your ears ringing yesterday ? [Folk lore about when some one talks about you here ,your ears ring]was mentioning "soap" and water ....
and how a ball was dropped by some !!
Hope I can call you soon !!?
Chet
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Proof that it worked, they made their fortune and today everyone drives an air-powered car. ;D
We shouldn't believe everything they say in the least article of newspapers. Not only are articles deliberately false because sensationalism attracts the buyer, but also many are incomplete because essential points have been omitted by journalists who do not understand them.
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Free energy guy made an FE car says he got rid of the jerks in the motor but got killed by the jerks
He had big idea's so where are they now ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfsEfnsA4I
make your own why not ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMDoSLPUn80
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The schematics Wesley has republished recently on his thread look interesting but are so blurred I can't work on them to translate
and we would need more information on the wound coil data or photo to be of help, how about some more focus on that section?
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532030/#msg532030 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532030/#msg532030)
Now you have it
Everything including winding instructions is there.
here is set of HQ schematics that will oversize the page
one additional schematic in good quality is located (2 posts above post from link on Wesley's forum.)
only one schematic was not translated.
total 6 schematics
Ask these few controversial Russians for help.
You will see who is who immediately
Wesley
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As a supplement to just throwing cartoons up on the threads;
try these approaches as well:
MicroCAP Circuit Simulator: [evaluation version available at no cost]
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=micro-cap+12
(https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=micro-cap+12)
http://www.spectrum-soft.com/demodownnew.shtm
(http://www.spectrum-soft.com/demodownnew.shtm)
Enter the schematic into MicroCAP, evaluate it; then publish the findings and
results - quite sure it would be very useful to varify, at least to some extent,
the blind schematics and cartoons before spreading.
Also Required: [evaluation versions are available at no cost]
Since some of the components (grenade coil and TV yoke torriod transformer,
for example) need parameters that are not common (yet) we have to perform a
full ElectroMagnetic (EM) simulation using other, more suited, analysis software
(Comsol, CST, Ansys, etc. in conjunction with bench analysis. Once the parameters
are found they can then be imported over to the circuit simulator and a complete
simulation of the device can be accurately completed.
Physical Test Set: [most already have the needed T&M instruments]
Parallel to the simulations and parameter determinations, a "test setup"
(Test Set V1 or V2) is used to physically varify component parameters and
characteristics on the bench. Test Sets V1 and V2 along with the application notes
is available elsewhere and is currently being evaluated and Alpha tested by a select
number of Maker groups.
You may even be amazed at how quickly you will understand the system's
operation and it's underlying analysis. At worst you can quickly determine
a cartoons mistakes and flaws before waisting too much time and money on
attempting a repliation.
Good luck and keep up the great work!
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Supposedly, the following is a newspaper story about C. Earl Ammann and his 'atmospheric generator' powered car:
Denver Post - Monday, August 8, 1921
Denver Man Invents Generator That Takes Electricity From Air & Propels Automobile
Believes He has Apparatus that will Revolutionize Power & Lighting & Gives it a Test on Streets of City
Has an invention been made that will revolutionize the electrical world? Will the apparatus conceived by
a Denver man light buildings, run automobiles, battleships, power plants by the unlimited supply of electricity
in the air? Denver electrical experts say "yes", and the young inventor, C. Earl Ammann, Monday demonstrated his
invention by attaching it to an old automobile and running it about the city.
An atmospheric generator is the name of Ammann’s apparatus. It is a compact, cylindrical object with two small
brass spheres protruding from the top. Inside, Ammann says, is an arrangement of steel wires and minerals,
so fixed as to draw the electricity from the air, condense it and utilize it for driving power.
The automobile which Ammann used for his demonstration Monday was the body and chassis of an electric vehicle.
There are said to be no batteries in the car. It propelled itself with remarkable speed at the touch of the foot,
climbed hills and glided through a maze of traffic under easy control.
Careful To Conceal His Invention ~
When asked by skeptical persons if he had a storage battery concealed inside of the power cylinder, Ammann said:
"As badly as I would like to show the inside of my invention, I can’t, for I have not yet obtained the patent rights.
It would be exposing the result of seven years of work to open the cylinder. I leave for Washington this week to obtain
the patent rights. When I return I will gladly show everything and I can only say, wait until then and time will tell.
"I have bucked every law of the textbooks to perfect the invention. It appears on the order of the wireless telephone but
it is decidedly different, except that the electricity is derived from the air. It will run anywhere except under water.
The automobile is only a simple test. The generator will light buildings, do away with steam turbines, and, in fact,
propel any kind of engine motor".
J. N. Davis, the proprietor of the Davis Electric Garage company, at 921 East 14th Avenue, and one of the oldest
electrical men in Denver, made a thorough study of the generator.
Electrical Man Has Faith In It ~
"I believe that Mr. Ammann has at least made the invention which will revolutionize power", Mr. Davis said. "Of course,
we don’t know what is inside of the generator and the inventor would be foolish to show us. We have long known that
certain minerals exist, which if properly arranged together, would furnish power. That, in substance, according to the
blueprints of the invention, is the basis of the whole thing.
"If the generator has been perfected to the extent that it will propel an automobile, the rest of its work is assured.
It will be the greatest invention of the age. The electricity obtained from the air, first passing through the
generator, would be available for any use". So impressed was Mr. Davis that he offered the use of his building for
Mr. Ammann’s headquarters. Ammann, who is but 28 years old, came to Denver from Spokane, Washington.
He is an electrical engineer and lives at the Argonaut Hotel.
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P.S. I did a search in Google Patents for any patent applications by anyone with the name Ammann
between 1920 to 1930 and couldn't find any patent applications that seem to be by those two
Ammann brothers. If they ever did apply for a patent for their 'atmospheric generator', I couldn't find
it in my Google Patent search for between 1920 and 1930. If anyone finds a patent application by these
two brothers, let us know.
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You may even be amazed at how quickly you will understand the system's
operation and it's underlying analysis. At worst you can quickly determine
a cartoons mistakes and flaws before waisting too much time and money on
attempting a repliation.
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Void
You would not find any patent from Amman. I'm sure, because some other inventors from this time were also supressed like Meyers. Perrigo got a patent but it's to cryptic to understand except one thing...
P.S. Dig more to find other pictures or information. They are priceless. What is the name of Amman brother ?
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Hi forest. The only name I have seen for C. Earl Ammann's brother is J. E. Ammann.
P.S.
If the following story is accurate (I don't know if this is legit or not), then it appears that when
C. Earl Amman went to Washington D.C. to file for a patent, they instead laid charges against him
claiming his device was stealing electricity from the power lines. :)
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Fate Magazine, October 1956, pp. 123-125; "Report from the Readers"
Mysterious Invention
"The Hubbard Energy Transformer" brought back to me exciting memories of another inventor. In 1918,
while doing painting and decorating, I was hired to paper several bedrooms in a large two-story house.
While at this work I went down to the back porch to pick up some materials. I happened to glance at the
light meter [mains power meter] and saw it was not moving.
I opened the fuse box and saw the main power fuses had been removed. It took only a minute to make sure
the line had not been tapped beyond the meter.
The only member of the family at home at the time was a young man in his early twenties [C. Earl Ammann].
I asked him, "Earl, where do you get your juice? I noticed it does not come from the power lines".
"Come along and I’ll show you", he said. He led me up to the attic. He placed some steel bars on a work table
and picked up a coil which looked like a loose coupler. After placing the coils on the steel rods he touched the
opposite terminal. The bell rang with great force, and there was quite a spark, too.
I picked up the coils to make sure there was no contact with other appliances. I could see right through them.
There was no battery inside. The bell rang just as vigorously. The wire was iron.
In the basement Earl had what he called an Activator Transformer, the size of two fists, which had to be within
10 miles of the radius of the generator coils. The activator was not in contact with any visible wires or appliances.
It was activated by the electric currents which surge around the earth and activate the compass needle. By cutting
into these currents, Earl said, we can obtain unlimited power.
A year later Earl demonstrated his Cosmo Electric Generator in Denver. He had placed two copper spheres on the
front fenders of his car in place of the headlights. From these copper spheres he obtained enough power to drive
that old jalopy all over Denver as reported in the Denver Post at the time.
While Earl was demonstrating his invention all over the streets of Denver, the power had been cut off in the foothills.
In spite of this, when he went to Washington DC shortly afterward to try to obtain a patent on his Cosmo Electric Generator,
he found that charges had been filed against him claiming he had a device to steal power from the power lines.
K. H. Isselstein,
Spokane, WA
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http://rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm#amman
The Denver Post news story was written in Aug 1921 however, so the dates in the above story
don't match exactly, but I suppose that guy Isselstein could have mixed up the year. :)
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Amman, Hubbard, Hendershot, Perrigo - 4 persons from the same time period saying the same thing - electricity taken from Earth field. This can't be mistake or accident. I bet if we could find more information about Daniel McFarland Cook he had similar concept.
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Add also this fellow Roy Meyers to the list http://www.viewzone.com/meyers/ , also almost the same period.
If you look at this tower prototype you will find the same kind of "thing" like in photo of Leedscalnin.
It's very frustrating they had superior methods than we could imagine without using current electronics.
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Add also this fellow Roy Meyers to the list http://www.viewzone.com/meyers/ , also almost the same period.
If you look at this tower prototype you will find the same kind of "thing" like in photo of Leedscalnin.
It's very frustrating they had superior methods than we could imagine without using current electronics.
Hi Forest. Yes, some very interesting claims/reports relating to those people. Because it is so long ago,
it is very hard to assess now however, but still very interesting. Also interesting that some mention using iron wire.
Not as good of a conductor as copper wire, so why were they using iron wire then? Things that make you go hmm...
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Anybody here gets some useful info on any of these posted wonders ...they feel would lead to answers [possible contact info for relatives] ...please forward to me in PM or my email [in my profile
you would be amazed at the response you get when you call someone for the right reasons ....a family's legacy, and a better world ///// not a bigger bank account or monetary interests .
I will absolutely follow up and report here.//
respectfully
Chet K..// PS and yes iron seems to be a thread thru many early claims...
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F.Y.I.
Just a quick note - some good stuff happening:
As I'm sure you're aware; we're in the process of setting up a working relationship,
including educational and hands-on training sessions, with a variety of so called "Maker"
groups. Several "Test Set" configurations have been designed and are now being Alpha
tested by a small but very diverse panel - high scool through retired - little formal
education through Phd.
Had our first "real/preliminary working day" this weekend and the turn-out was
overwhelming, over 120 stayed for the full day. Since we had only 9 functional test sets,
we had to work in teams of 12 or so. Some of the participants are extremely sharp and
I think everyone left with much more than they came with. I know I sure learned a lot!
This approach to introducting "electronic extra energy power generation" so far appears
to a very good one. We'll know more in the coming months as our test sets mature, more
application notes are completed, and the lecture notes are polished.
Just plant a small seed of knowledge amongst the youth and it will grow like a weed!
Most of the younger folks participate in the local robotics club (many awards worldwide),
and I must say, they know their stuff (resonance, power, interference, etc.). Very inpressive
to say the least and they are definitely up for another challenge.
One of many examples: They set up their Sherline CNC Lathe software for coil winding,
from scratch using a brief app note, and wound a Tesla coil and a grenade coil in
less than 2.5 hours... WOW!
Note; there's a lot more going on out here in the real world than what you might find on
these isolated forums! Check it out. Get involved at the local level. There is a life
after the forums! (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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A repeat just in case...
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Solarlab//people are the biggest resource we have ,young minds are the absolute best .
Working with others towards a common goal is much better than typing in a closet....Been outa the closet here for a long time !!
Would love to see your classroom grow !! Thanks for sharing. //respectfully Chet K
Ps yes there are wonderful resources within the communities ,I have MIT not far from here and its a hotbed for such !!
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Just plant a small seed of knowledge amongst the youth and it will grow like a weed!
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I agree, and that was true in the 20th century.
Today, we must also provide reasons for motivation, because many young people have reservations about technology, a matter of heightened awareness of environmental and health risks due to the alarmism of environmentalists, without any rationality capable of weighing the ratio of benefits to disadvantages.
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Johan great to see you....were your ears ringing yesterday ? [Folk lore about when some one talks about you here ,your ears ring]was mentioning "soap" and water .... and how a ball was dropped by some !! Hope I can call you soon !!? Chet
Its all around and more, only even the purchased air-plane mechanico's are not knowing it!
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6663680B1/en
4000 patents on Emulsified fuels:
https://patents.google.com/?q=C10L1%2f328
Think Chet, you have kids, help them???
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Johan ,it was good to talk ,and yes how to help the kids has always been the prime mover.the sooner we advance to "clean energy" which can sustain humanity without hindering it...the better. This burning stuff is Bad news...
Water as fuel would sure help at some level to transition ,your old link here .. .. ..https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends (https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends)
... ..on the other topic ... I would imagine the mechanics who fuel the planes up would know something is strange..Stefan has long pointed this out ...the trails they leave in the sky ,injecting water to increase power is one reason , but the pink and blue colors you mention ...in the contrails ...seems something else ??
water vapor is supposedly a big contributor of global warming [single biggest ?]
Who knows what they do up there and why ??
Chet
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Johan ,it was good to talk ,and yes how to help the kids has always been the prime mover.the sooner we advance to "clean energy" which can sustain humanity without hindering it...the better. This burning stuff is Bad news...
Water as fuel would sure help at some level to transition ,your old link here .. .. ..https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends (https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends)
... ..on the other topic ... I would imagine the mechanics who fuel the planes up would know something is strange..Stefan has long pointed this out ...the trails they leave in the sky ,injecting water to increase power is one reason , but the pink and blue colors you mention ...in the contrails ...seems something else ??
water vapor is supposedly a big contributor of global warming [single biggest ?]
Who knows what they do up there and why ??
Chet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-M_uYkpT0
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QUESTION - Technical Testing Development
Background:
As part of our work with the "Maker" groups we are developing several "Test Sets"
that focus primarily on the "Ruslan" type "Electronic Excess Energy Generation (E3G)"
devices. These Test Sets specifically target providing a means to "exercise" various
components of the E3G as well as the integrated system as a whole.
In an attempt to make a Test Set that is more viable, one of the instruments we are
working with is the computer based "Digilent Analog Discovery 2" (TS-2) which has
multifunction capabilities that includes, but is not limited to;
dual channel oscilloscope and waveform generator, vector network analyzer,
and logic generator and analyzer.
With a band width within our device test and exercise range [12MHz - 100MS/s], the
Analog Discovery 2 and Waveforms3 software appears it might be a good fit [includes
script and store]. It's many features and capabilities, however, present an initial complex
challenge; but at it's near $200-$300US (lower with student discounts, etc.) price range
the cost/bennefit is very appealing!
Brief Analog Discovery2 Instrument review and specifications are found here:
https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/software/waveforms/waveforms-3/reference-manual?redirect=1 (https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/software/waveforms/waveforms-3/reference-manual?redirect=1)
https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/instrumentation/analog-discovery-2/start (https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/instrumentation/analog-discovery-2/start)
Our initial "Test Set (TS-1)" is fully capable of providing valuable project T&M but it's an
expensive configuration of conventional test instruments and does not lend itself to providing
each "Maker" participant with a personal test and exercise platform; thus, the transition to the
Analog Discovery 2.
Questions/Considerations:
1. Do any of you fellows have or use a "Diigilent Analog Discovery (older version) or
Analog Discovery 2 (new version) instrument? {or - Does your kid use one at school?}
2. Would you be interested in sharing your experiences with this instrument and
relevant algorithms, etc.?
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4. Any other constructive ideas, suggestions and comments?
BTW; We are still on-track for a June/July "project" release (pending validation,
peer reviews and such).
Also, try looking into a local "Maker" or similar groups - can almost garantee you'll
be very surprised and impressed (if you haven't done so already)!
Thanks and have a good week!
SL
Full Disclosure: We have no affiliation with Digilent, or any related entities,
what so ever; other than being a full price, paying customer (no student discounts, nor free-be's).
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Interesting video below about the changing Schumann resonance in the last few days.
What's going on with our Sun as well as the rest of space should be of interest at this time, with so many noticed Earth changes going on now.
https://youtu.be/Oxbb-io0-5Q
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Steven Mark TPU said the frequency of the energy he captures is around 5KHz and it's pulsed DC with a lot of hash. I think this ~5KHz was mentioned also by that guy who discovered a way to capture earth's elestrostatic potential while in prison, i could find him easily if i wanted.
Also James Schwartz says energy he captures is mostly pulsed DC with a lot of hash, he keeps "his" frequencies secret, but possibly it's also around 5KHz.
Let's not forget Hans Coler said ferrite magnet frequency is ~180KHz, those are Tesla frequencies.
In short, as Don Smith said, resonance = energy gain and higher the frequency more energy gain.
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Steven Mark TPU said the frequency of the energy he captures is around 5KHz and it's pulsed DC with a lot of hash. I think this ~5KHz was mentioned also by that guy who discovered a way to capture earth's elestrostatic potential while in prison, i could find him easily if i wanted.
Also James Schwartz says energy he captures is mostly pulsed DC with a lot of hash, he keeps "his" frequencies secret, but possibly it's also around 5KHz.
Let's not forget Hans Coler said ferrite magnet frequency is ~180KHz, those are Tesla frequencies.
In short, as Don Smith said, resonance = energy gain and higher the frequency more energy gain.
strange his neon PSU was at 31.5 i also thought The SM guy sounded more like 6khz not 5 and 31.5 is a base 9hz frequency the universe, oh happy days ;D
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Interesting video below about the changing Schumann resonance in the last few days.
What's going on with our Sun as well as the rest of space should be of interest at this time, with so many noticed Earth changes going on now.
https://youtu.be/Oxbb-io0-5Q
I wouldn't mind betting if NASA isan't chucking iron into the sun it kills stars like ours. NASA never a straight answer 8)
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strange his neon PSU was at 31.5 i also thought The SM guy sounded more like 6khz not 5 and 31.5 is a base 9hz frequency the universe, oh happy days ;D
For SM, from Schizinger Report: "Think of the ouput as dc (pulsed) 5khz with lots of Hash in it"
Indeed 9 is the key to the universe, even Hendrix knew (9 to the universe), 9 is the key of magnetism - as mentioned in these highly valuable radio transmissions, this particular detail in The Richard Miller "Tensor Series" Radio Series (1974) http://innersites.com/issa/
12 of gravity (as revealed by Council of 9 in The Only Planet of Choice by Phyllis V. Schlemmer)...unification electricity and magetism, resonating EM force.
Afterall, in Hinduism 108 is the key to the universe.
In 9 we trust, ALL IS 9.
9 are the layers of "human" being, 9x2 are there chakras, 6 lower 12 higher, numerical values of pythagorean scale almost all add up to 9..
As for the "material" planes, there are 7 and so called speed of light is 49x faster just one level up and x49 each level up, this is how whole universe "jumps" accross vast distances according to Ummo contact and Oscar Magocsi..
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For SM, from Schizinger Report: "Think of the ouput as dc (pulsed) 5khz with lots of Hash in it"
Indeed 9 is the key to the universe, even Hendrix knew (9 to the universe), 9 is the key of magnetism - as mentioned in these highly valuable radio transmissions, this particular detail in The Richard Miller "Tensor Series" Radio Series (1974) http://innersites.com/issa/
12 of gravity (as revealed by Council of 9 in The Only Planet of Choice by Phyllis V. Schlemmer)...unification electricity and magetism, resonating EM force.
Afterall, in Hinduism 108 is the key to the universe.
In 9 we trust, ALL IS 9.
9 are the layers of "human" being, 9x2 are there chakras, 6 lower 12 higher, numerical values of pythagorean scale almost all add up to 9..
As for the "material" planes, there are 7 and so called speed of light is 49x faster just one level up and x49 each level up, this is how whole universe "jumps" accross vast distances according to Ummo contact and Oscar Magocsi..
This is good but remember that the TPU runs off of multiple frequencies, and not just one.
The (energy source) frequency can be one frequency for example 7.8 Hertz but this wavelength is too large to resonate with,and induce a current into your small coils.
So to solve this he used a classic RX protocol called Heterodyning where multiple signals are mixed to create a new frequency.
Think of it as having two side band frequencies both very close to 5 KiloHertz, but with a slight offset (transformer experiment) that will create the slow 7.8 Hertz beat, or center frequency in the field, that does resonate with the Earth's resonant frequency by making the coils act as if they are very large.
Steven blatantly admits that his device works like a common radio in one way, why nobody picks that up is beyond my belief.
He also said these were conversion devices converting up and down.
Another example can be found in nowadays SDR software defined radios where a antennae wire is multiplexed the wire is connected and disconnected to the receiver at the desired frequency or, multiple frequencies to receive the entire bandwidth on one sample.
This boils back down to the very old understanding of pushing the kid on the swing you have to connect and disconnect (or hit) the wire (or wave...) at the correct intervals to interact with the moving electrons that are all over the wire surface.
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i'm not sure electrons exist it's more like it's truth 'bastardised' by bigots because its magnetic field in reality with all this going on one can see why they mess with truth.
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i'm not sure electrons exist it's more like it's truth 'bastardised' by bigots because its magnetic field in reality with all this going on one can see why they mess with truth.
This comment does not help.
The wide consensus is that these electrons that circle the atom are able to move and are able to move more freely with distance or layers of bands because the binding force diminishes by the square root rule.
Whether it is a particle or a wave depends on the time component.
If you take a snapshot it will represent a particle, frozen in time, and if you monitor it for an extended period of time you will observe a (charged) particle in motion, which will represent itself as a wave.
It is not important to know what it is, it is important to know how to use it.
We know very little, in fact almost nothing, And most of the time we know how to make something work but don't have a clue about what is really going on.
Many people are picking the fruits while others are studying the roots.
It just depends which end you want in on.
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This comment does not help.
The wide consensus is that these electrons that circle the atom are able to move and are able to move more freely with distance or layers of bands because the binding force diminishes by the square root rule.
Whether it is a particle or a wave depends on the time component.
If you take a snapshot it will represent a particle, frozen in time, and if you monitor it for an extended period of time you will observe a (charged) particle in motion, which will represent itself as a wave.
It is not important to know what it is, it is important to know how to use it.
We know very little, in fact almost nothing, And most of the time we know how to make something work but don't have a clue about what is really going on.
Many people are picking the fruits while others are studying the roots.
It just depends which end you want in on.
You should have been a politicization 'sum are getting there plums and some the crumbs' ! isn't that what the takers say ::)
why use a Telly Soliver quote like a 1000 words when the one says how it is on target!
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i'm not sure electrons exist it's more like it's truth 'bastardised' by bigots because its magnetic field in reality with all this going on one can see why they mess with truth.
According to St. Germain there is only one partice in all creation - electron. When you consider all that exists are electric (male - speed of light) and magnetic (female - 16,000miles/s faster) lines of force. There are no particles or forces other than disturbances of the primary medium which is btw under immense pressure due to abovementioned difference of speed between the two basic polarities with neutral G lines separating them.
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According to Tesla, there is no such thing as an "Electron", flying around a central core, as we have been told, and imagine it.
It does NOT exist, as we have been told. Even though dark technologies, and science now know much more about dark matter, and dark energy, yet won't spill the beans on it. Why? Because... you could find that a self running device could be made, anti gravity space ships, cars, planes could be powered by this as yet unproven but real source of energy.
Scientists are busy at CERN, though, still looking for the GOD particle. Or so they say. But, in reality, what are they really up to?
Tesla also said, that light is NOT a "particle", nor is the Aether composed of "particles", either. They are non particles, and nor material, in nature. And I add, that electrons, or what we call electrons, don't "travel" from one point to another, they polarize, instead, similar to a photon. Not does light "travel" like in the speed of light, but light will polarize to a light source, instead. Without any traveling of the "particles or electrons", involved.
Which is what at least I, am trying to tap into, the illusive but real, Aether source.
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This is good but remember that the TPU runs off of multiple frequencies, and not just one.
The (energy source) frequency can be one frequency for example 7.8 Hertz but this wavelength is too large to resonate with,and induce a current into your small coils.
So to solve this he used a classic RX protocol called Heterodyning where multiple signals are mixed to create a new frequency.
Think of it as having two side band frequencies both very close to 5 KiloHertz, but with a slight offset (transformer experiment) that will create the slow 7.8 Hertz beat, or center frequency in the field, that does resonate with the Earth's resonant frequency by making the coils act as if they are very large.
Steven blatantly admits that his device works like a common radio in one way, why nobody picks that up is beyond my belief.
He also said these were conversion devices converting up and down.
Another example can be found in nowadays SDR software defined radios where a antennae wire is multiplexed the wire is connected and disconnected to the receiver at the desired frequency or, multiple frequencies to receive the entire bandwidth on one sample.
This boils back down to the very old understanding of pushing the kid on the swing you have to connect and disconnect (or hit) the wire (or wave...) at the correct intervals to interact with the moving electrons that are all over the wire surface.
Interesting that he used beats, didnt know that. Of course swing allegory applies whenever we describe constructive/destructive interference, which again reminds me of this russian paper on overunity of constructive interference. http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Melnichenko/Andrei_Melnichenko_Inventions.pdf
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According to Tesla, there is no such thing as an "Electron", flying around a central core, as we have been told, and imagine it.
It does NOT exist, as we have been told. Even though dark technologies, and science now know much more about dark matter, yet won't spill the beans on it. Why? Because... you could find that a self running device could be made, anti gravity space ships, cars, planes could be powered by IT.
Scientists are busy at CERN, though, still looking for the GOD particle. And Tesla also said, that light is NOT a "particle", nor is the Aether composed of "particles", either. They are non particles, and nor material, in nature.
Which is what we, or at least I, am trying to tap into, this illusive but real, Aether source.
Of course there is no PARTICLE electron as no particle exists, but there IS a standing wave electron, the only "particle" there exists. Like i said above dynamic energy permeating all space is under pressure, omnidirectional pressure of infinite potential canceling itself out and all we perceive are secondary (...) remnants of it.
Keely managed to reach 6th level of this PRESSURE, one short of the ultimate 7th.
Also important point, according to Zirbes (https://www.scribd.com/document/412572591/UFO-CONTACT-FROM-ALCYONE-zirbes (https://www.scribd.com/document/412572591/UFO-CONTACT-FROM-ALCYONE-zirbes)) all is made of the particles of netural energy which appear as circles on the oscilloscope, only when these two neutral (gravitational) BUBBLES unite as when hitting the planetary magnetic field and the atmosphere, polarized energy (LIGHT, HEAT) is produced.
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A "standing wave electron"... really?
You mentioned that there are waves composed of electrons but, electrons don't exist? Sounds a bit strange.
However, if something like electrons don't actually exist, what type of "waves" are you talking about then?
And more importantly, what is the ever present "Cosmic Soup" and the Aether source, that Tesla mentions. Was he nuts? Or not...
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A "standing wave electron"... really?
You mentioned that there are waves composed of electrons but, electrons don't exist? Sounds a bit strange.
However, if something like electrons don't actually exist, what type of "waves" are you talking about then?
And more importantly, what is the ever present "Cosmic Soup" and the Aether source, that Tesla mentions. Was he nuts? Or not...
Standing wave electron indeed. I didn't say "waves composed of electrons" i said electrons ARE waves, and waves in what, in the primary medium which is an infinite network of electric and magnetic lines of force at 90°, vibrating slightly out of phase due to their difference of speed/density. Tesla understood this, he just used different words like Aether.
I'll repeat this cause it's important. This is according to George Van Tassel. Primary Energy aka Vril, Prana, Chi or whatever name, is composed of
electric (male) lines of force traveling at what is known as speed of light
magnetic (female) lines of force traveling at 16,000 miles / second faster
magnetic lines being faster are accordingly being less dense.
These oscillate in precise manners, where two lines of same frequency cross chemical
element is produced.
For more detail read Council of 7 lights.
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Tesla used no words like electrons. Or to associate the movement of electrons with waves. Or that waves are electrons.
Imagine an ocean wave, or any wave formed in the water. Does this wave move??? What is actually moving, if anything?
There is no actual "movement" in ocean waves as we think. Nor in any other kind of waves. There is nothing "moving, nor traveling", from point A to point B. Polarization is the key.
Just how this all works with light (photons) and the tapping of the Aether, is what I'm after.
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He used no words like electrons. Or to associate the movement of electrons with waves.
Imagine an ocean wave, or any wave formed in the water. Does this wave move??? What is actually moving, if anything?
There is no actual "movement" in ocean waves as we think. Nor in any other kind of waves. There is nothing "moving, nor traveling". Polarization is the key. Just how this all works with light (photons) and the tapping of the Aether, is what I'm after.
Your information is limited and little information is a dangerous thing.
Indeed, nothing really moves, primary light IS, it does not move, this is at the core of Keely's sympathetic vibration, this is well known to every occultist and every advanced human being.
But in the world of effects, we perceive apparent movement, what is moving, only a disturbance, the pattern, not the medium itself.
As for this.. "There is no actual "movement" in ocean waves as we think."
That's wrong, actual movement of water waves are extremely complex and they do include both standing waves and propagating waves that is particles actually moving.
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Ok, my information is limited, and dangerous? To who? The government? Guys in black?.... Anyway, I can see that you don't get the drift of the idea that I'm conveying. So, I won't bore you any further. I would not want to add more "dangerous" information, to the pot.
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Ok, my information is limited, and dangerous? To who? The government? Guys in black?.... Anyway, I can see that you don't get the drift of the idea that I'm conveying. So, I won't bore you any further. I would not want to add more "dangerous" information, to the pot.
Your info is surely no threat to government. No need to get insulted, we all got limited information, i was just saying don't come to conclusions too easily, like saying "there is no electron".
I get your "drift" very well, seems you dont get mine, as i in big part affirmed what you said, not went against it, except that there is no electron. Well, i made it clear at the most basic level there is nothing but lines of force, but then again you might say whole creation being infinite and thus spherical in shape (only shape same in all directions) is but a giant electron or giant atom, this is semantics as all "particles" are the same at different speeds of vibration.
Pardon me if i came across as talking down to you.
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Speaking of government, makes my stomach turn upside down thinking what they had and what they known for so many decades.
Solar Warden https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDuZt2Dt0DQZiEvNx6UCce22ah1scLz8h
Lake Tsiolkovsky https://imgur.com/a/dZNqj
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You should have been a politicization 'sum are getting there plums and some the crumbs' ! isn't that what the takers say ::)
why use a Telly Soliver quote like a 1000 words when the one says how it is on target!
I was trying to convey a principle on how to make something work.
This was then professionally buried by you and your meaningless comment 'do electrons exist or not'
Whether they exist is of no importance what so ever.
What is important is that the proposed mechanism is valid and can be verified, regardless of the knowledge on the existence of electrons.
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OT - just checking if all the threads here are "moderated."
Quote from: mkjekyll on June 06, 2019, 11:35:46 PM (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg535044/#msg535044)<blockquote>Wesley,
A short while back we were talking VNA's and you were kind enough to make some recommendations the final one being the PCI card unit.
I found this AIM unit interesting and would love your opinion concerning it's specs since you are much more knowledgeable in this gear. I showed it to you before and not sure if your response was humbug or what. I like the fact it is very modern, inexpensive and has been recommended by some RF guys I know. However I am not sure of our requirements besides S parameters and the frequency.
https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf (https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf)
I am coming back on some time and look forward to going down that one rabbit hole.
Thanks,
Mick
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Hi Mkjekyll,
F.Y.I.
Bode 100 Vector Network Analyer [approx $5,500 US]
https://www.picotest.com/products_BODE100.html (https://www.picotest.com/products_BODE100.html)
Coverage: 1Hz thru 50MHz (more than adequate for excess energy work and industrial power)
We use this VNA instrument extensively for insitu analysis of the "Ruslan" type devices.
Also,
Analog Discovery 2 [approx $300 US, student discounts approx $200 US]
https://analogdiscovery.com/ (https://analogdiscovery.com/)
Another, more cost effective, multi-instrument, is the Digilent Analog Discovery 2 which includes a VNA feature
amongst many other capabilities (2 CH Scope; 2 CH AWG; 16 CH Logic Analyzer or mixed Pattern Generator;
16 CH Digital I/O; built-in Power Supplies; Voltmeters; 2 CH Spectrum Analyzer - shared with scope; advanced
waveforms, and so forth).
Coverage: VNA 1Hz thru 10MHz; instrument in general: 12MHz @ 3dB, 4MHz @ 0.5dB, 1MHz @ 0.1dB. Sample Rate (real) 100 MSPS; AWG slew rate 10V step 400V/uSec. Full Spec Sheet:
https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/instrumentation/analog-discovery-2/specifications (https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/instrumentation/analog-discovery-2/specifications)
We are developing a variety of "Excess Energy Generation" Application Notes based around the Analog Discovery 2 instrument, primarily for the "Maker Mark" groups. Appears to be a"great bang for the buck!"
Regards, SL
FIN- Yep, all are moderated. Just checking. Does explain why there is not much of value on here anymore!Have a good one...
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Perhaps, but it helps to know what you're aiming for, to hit the target. There have been endless theories, but no working devices.
The thing is, to try and build up a device yourself first, then you can verify the results, of that mechanisms workings, or not working, as you thought. Then we can discuss if there are electrons involved, or something else at work there. That's not an easy thing to prove though.
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I wish everyone around here just focuses on few facts.
1. magnetic field is a source of infinite energy
2. if back emf is canceled, we can multiply input energy proportionally to frequency of disturbance
now we come to antoher 2 key points.
1. stronger magnetic field can be produced by using thicker longer wire = same amps more turns
also by making poles as close as possible as in pancake coil, also bifilar (or even multifilar) config
2. making coil resonant will allow us to push energy more efficiently at desired frequency
Have in mind if you disturb the magnetic field "only" ~40,000 times a second it is an equivalent of single pole alternator spinning at ~2.4 MILLLION rpm, you get the picture.
Think and you will find.
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I wish everyone around here just focuses on few facts.
1. magnetic field is a source of infinite energy
2. if back emf is canceled, we can multiply input energy proportionally to frequency of disturbance
now we come to antoher 2 key points.
1. stronger magnetic field can be produced by using thicker longer wire = same amps more turns
also by making poles as close as possible as in pancake coil, also bifilar (or even multifilar) config
2. making coil resonant will allow us to push energy more efficiently at desired frequency
Have in mind if you disturb the magnetic field "only" ~40,000 times a second it is an equivalent of single pole alternator spinning at ~2.4 MILLLION rpm, you get the picture.
Think and you will find.
This is wrong.
I just wished the exact opposite.
That everybody would let go of the idea that a magnetic field is energy.
Magnetic fields are a property of space.
You are saying a light bulb is an infinite source of light, because you do not understand that it is the electricity that goes in that is making it shine.
That's primordial thinking.
We need to go beyond that and start using the underlying principles.
And it's about time, people have been running around magnets long enough.
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imho you are right in both cases but the essence is that magnetic field is a stream of peculiar waves which goes from "somewhere" into our 4-dimiension and back and it is pure energy but mostly in conservative way. That's why we need tricks to get energy from magnetic field...or use it in non-conservative mode. Tom Bearden said: don't kill the dipole
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This is wrong.
I just wished the exact opposite.
That everybody would let go of the idea that a magnetic field is energy.
Magnetic fields are a property of space.
You are saying a light bulb is an infinite source of light, because you do not understand that it is the electricity that goes in that is making it shine.
That's primordial thinking.
We need to go beyond that and start using the underlying principles.
And it's about time, people have been running around magnets long enough.
You have no idea what you're talking about or you're a shill, in any case you shine like a brick.
Magnetic field is INDEED an infinite source of energy, first order effect of the Primary Light PRESSURE creating all lower manifestations.
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You have no idea what you're talking about or you're a shill, in any case you shine like a brick.
Magnetic field is INDEED an infinite source of energy, first order effect of the Primary Light PRESSURE creating all lower manifestations.
The one that doesn't have a clue, is you.
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The one that doesn't have a clue, is you.
I seen dogs with more clue than you.