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Author Topic: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits  (Read 294462 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2009, 11:09:06 PM »
I'll go where ever you want. I posted in here because Gadget posted his circuit in this thread. The problem is that there's a section in gadgets circuit that is unclear. I asked gadget to clarify his circuit drawing, and he's logged in here numerous times already. No reply.

This is the 3rd claim that I've tried to replicate that the inventor so far will not clarify his circuit. People so far have been extremely dodgy. If they could be specific, then people could replicate it to see if their claim is correct, and that would get things going very fast. That is, assuming the claim is correct. You people do want that, correct, LOL? Very odd!

Another possible issue is that after I just bought my *new* Maxwell boostcap, gadget PM's me saying it probably is flawed, and therefore I can't replicate his claim. He says the bcap from that seller will leak. Very odd.


Okay, see you in the other thread.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2009, 11:09:06 PM »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2009, 11:17:07 PM »
I would agree, the circuit is not entirely clear in the area of the toroid.

Please clarify the bottom area of the toroid, there are a lot of crossed lines with no connection points given.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2009, 11:24:18 PM »
I'll go where ever you want. I posted in here because Gadget posted his circuit in this thread. The problem is that there's a section in gadgets circuit that is unclear. I asked gadget to clarify his circuit drawing, and he's logged in here numerous times already. No reply.

This is the 3rd claim that I've tried to replicate that the inventor so far will not clarify his circuit. People so far have been extremely dodgy. If they could be specific, then people could replicate it to see if their claim is correct, and that would get things going very fast. That is, assuming the claim is correct. You people do want that, correct, LOL? Very odd!

Another possible issue is that after I just bought my *new* Maxwell boostcap, gadget PM's me saying it probably is flawed, and therefore I can't replicate his claim. He says the bcap from that seller will leak. Very odd.


Okay, see you in the other thread.
Hi Paul I am on dial up ! it takes several minutes for a page to load and i am not always in front the computer even if you see me logged  in . I have a 7 year old i raise . I am not sure what is unclear except in the drawing the secondary loop is a little over the bottom half of jt circuit . ignore that there is no connection there .I welcome replications and begged for them . this is nothing anyone can;t do . Its so simple and was right in front of our nose.
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2009, 11:28:05 PM »
I would agree, the circuit is not entirely clear in the area of the toroid.

Please clarify the bottom area of the toroid, there are a lot of crossed lines with no connection points given.

.99

Thanks poynt99!!  :)



Hi Paul I am on dial up ! it takes several minutes for a page to load and i am not always in front the computer even if you see me logged  in . I have a 7 year old i raise . I am not sure what is unclear except in the drawing the secondary loop is a little over the bottom half of jt circuit . ignore that there is no connection there .I welcome replications and begged for them . this is nothing anyone can;t do . Its so simple and was right in front of our nose.
gadget

Gadget, thanks for reply, and we can take this in a different thread because the moderator does not want people to discuss your circuit here, but you still did not answer my question, which is please point out the correction in my circuit so I can know how to build it. You can beg people to replicate it, and I'm begging you to clarify your circuit.  :)

Sorry if I seem frustrated, but I've tried to replicate 3 claims at this forum, and for the freaken life of me I can't get anyone to clarify their designs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!
Paul


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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2009, 11:29:40 PM »
So Paul...
Where are you?

I am waiting.
I already made a post on the main jt thread to help you.

jeanna

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2009, 11:29:40 PM »
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2009, 11:32:23 PM »
I would agree, the circuit is not entirely clear in the area of the toroid.

Please clarify the bottom area of the toroid, there are a lot of crossed lines with no connection points given.

.99
There is no connection . if there was it would be a dot . the bottom half is STANDARD JT . The drawing program i have won't draw the secondary line any further up . Just forget the secondary .

@Pirate can you please replace the other diagrams with this one . I am sorry you others did not  get it the first time around.

@paul
I did answer . Its a Standard 11 turn JT . with a 22 turn secondary  ???????? Standard . the cad program just would not draw the secondary line high enuff but i managed to clear it up .Jt? Anyways yes its the same guy and i did not leave him feed back to spoil his 100% feedback . that's the kind of person i am . i did finally get my money back but it was a bad experience and we had some words . There leaky My friend and you will see . How can anyone sell an 80 dollar bcap for 30 Dollars . Answer there inferior rejects . Its ok Maybe he has some good ones now . like i said i test mine and make 2 dollars off of them .
here is the new schematic to clear up what you don't understand . have fun . It works like i said it does . I hope this Clears up the cad error .

best regards

gadget
« Last Edit: November 22, 2009, 12:14:43 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009, 11:40:56 PM »
gadget have you thought about shipping bcaps with a JT kit? It would definitely speed things up for the beginners.

I just read the 10 last JT thread pages and they were interesting indeed. It might need some special circuitry but I would advise to have a certain setup freezed somewhere where people (and pets) can't reach that flip flops between bcaps. This would serve as a good benchmark while you continue to improve the concept.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009, 11:40:56 PM »
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2009, 12:34:42 AM »
Thanks poynt99!!  :)



Gadget, thanks for reply, and we can take this in a different thread because the moderator does not want people to discuss your circuit here,
Paul

Paul:

What are you talking about??  I am the Moderator and I was the one that posted gadget's drawing in the second post of this topic and we ARE discussing his circuit here.

Jeanna very kindly volunteered to help you with a basic joule thief circuit on the other topic because that is where that circuit was born.  That circuit is only a small part of Gadget's new circuit but if you can't make one of those, then you won't get Gadget's circuit to work.

@ Al:

I will swap out the drawings as you requested as soon as I get a chance.

Thanks,

Bill

***EDIT***  The drawings have been swapped out.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2009, 12:48:05 AM »
Okay, are there any real pictures or any video of this circuit out there yet ?

How bright is the 1 Watt LED and how long does it take to charge up
the ultracap ?

How much power does the circuit draw from with battery at the same time ?

How long will the nichrome wire heat up,
when it discharges the cap ?
Probaby only for a few seconds ?

Have you measured power input from the battery over time= energy input
compared to the heat and light energy output ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2009, 12:51:12 AM »
@Stefan

You can read all the details in the last 10 pages or so from the joule thief tread , and some detail can be found here in the first 3 pages .


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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2009, 01:00:42 AM »
Here's an old but interesting video that shows what such a cap can do to a wire. The wire becomes red hot very fast. This is in contrast what high voltage would do ie explode the wire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp2QDhcw6Bs

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2009, 01:05:28 AM »
I have read from P.997 as advised by Gadget, and I echo Stefan's questions, with this to add:

Gadget, or anyone--what has led you to believe that the new circuit (or original JT) is capable of OU?

.99


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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009, 01:09:23 AM »
Here's an old but interesting video that shows what such a cap can do to a wire. The wire becomes red hot very fast. This is in contrast what high voltage would do ie explode the wire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp2QDhcw6Bs
Hot stuff!
Thanks broli

jeanna

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009, 02:14:53 AM »
Hot stuff!
Thanks broli

jeanna

its damm hot sh!ft

lol

you all know where it came from  ;)

ist

same place telepotation came from ...  8)

so to clairfly it for the slow ones gadget!  5 1thousands of a volt charged the cap from source ... you then recycled it and ended up ou bigtime ...

omg   its too easy ...  :P

IF YOU THINK I WILL SETTLE WITH THE FARRA TREATMET YOUR BADLY MISTAKEN!

when we have matured as will your teck!  ;)

when your ready to treat people as people then you shall learn more till then .. 

its time to grow up ..

ill see you if your ready if not ... like you all said this is open source ..

there is nothing that keeps me here other than to share ...  ;)

w

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2009, 02:42:54 AM »
IST:

And we are happy to have you here sharing with us.

Bill

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
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