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mr_bojangles

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2009, 10:33:01 AM »

There is no wicking effect, the capillary pipe is filled to the top with capillary tubing.  water will rise up due to capillary effect.


hey bud, sorry to say but creativity is right

the "wicking effect" literally is the capillary effect....

i am puzzled as to what you are referring to as a "capillary pipe... filled to the top with capillary tubing."

the capillary effect generally refers to one of two main things,

the first being extremely thin tubes, being partially submerged in water, where the surface tension of water is less than that of the gravitational pull inside the tube, and the liquid inside the tube raises until they are met equally (this is not due to difference in air pressure, if you tried this with mercury it would have the opposite effect)

the smaller the tube the greater effect

the other refers to, well a wick or any porous material, the best example being a paper towel or a sponge

even a rope

that being said i think your either combining them (which i haven't heard of) or filling a tube with...a wick like material

the thing about capillary action is the same as a siphon

what we perceive as work is either an imbalance in gravity or an absorbent material that spreads liquids evenly throughout the material, not doing work

not a bad idea though

with water, don't worry about turning a generator, just try to make something that can fill itself up

first just try to get a "capillary tube" to overflow, if you can do that then you already made history

hope it helped...

mr_bojangles

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2009, 10:38:59 AM »
oh ya, and if water only moves from one pressure to the other, how will it get back to the other chamber...

Azorus

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 10:42:24 AM »
One more clarification.

The capillary pipe is a pipe filled with capillary tubing, thin glass tubing.

and did you even read the discription before you wrote your last comment about how water goes back down to the lower tank?

Azorus

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 10:48:02 AM »
Reposting of pic

Creativity

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 04:03:56 PM »
i painted capillary pipe man..in green. water will rise to the green level by capillary effect + blue rise of the water due to pressure gradient. Blue pipes are the one that rise water purely due to the pressure gradient. i do not neglate any of the effects, I base the drawing on the real experiment. Pressure in both types of pipe on my drawing is the same, normal pipe is a reference pipe to show what is the pressure used. As u can see there is no difference in the level of water in a normal pipe and a capillary pipe once the capillair starts to have any water above its upper end.

 Until the pressure is such that in a normal pipe the water level is not higher than the upper end of the capillair, not a single drop of water will leave the capilair. Indeed in this situation,the water will have higher level in capilair, but no water will leave the capilair.

I don't care about ur non- capillary -generator-side-pipe and i was not referring to it in any of my posts. I just say that ur capillary pipe will still need the same amount of energy to start to drip as a normal pipe used instead of ur capillair.

Build it and prove me wrong.

mr_bojangles

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2009, 08:00:27 PM »
your device confused me a lot, when its a very simple set up
by capillary tube with capillary glass tubes, im assuming you just mean multiple, long, and small in diameter glass tubes
your word choice can be tricky sometimes, apologies

what i meant was, you put a lot of emphasis on pressure variants and how fluids will always flow in one specific direction, and from that i interpreted it was a one way process, or that it would at least get stuck in one chamber, it just seemed like a logical fallacy

i am not sure if your using the wicking effect, or exploiting differences in air pressure

i guess both in combination?


its a good idea, but its been done before...

Azorus

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 07:35:21 AM »
Just an update.  Purchasing equipement

Acrylic lower water tank, Acrylic 100mm pipes, and glass capillary tubing.

When all of it comes in I will put it together and post a video.

My plan is to use a small bike pump to add air pressure to the lower bottome tank via a small air valve I plan to install.  If water comes out of the top of the capillary tubing and not the top of the open air pipe that should prove that it works.  If it does I will order an upper trough that will allow the water to fall back down the open air pipe.

Azorus

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2009, 01:15:57 PM »
@ Exxcomm0n

I have read your thread and agree.  That is why I will build it and post a video.

Azorus

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2009, 06:41:53 AM »
Have the lower tank just have to assemble now, still have to cut the sides of the lower tank at 45degree angles, so i have more surface area to glue the 6mm acrylic glass together.

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2009, 08:58:25 AM »
Just an update.  Purchasing equipement

Acrylic lower water tank, Acrylic 100mm pipes, and glass capillary tubing.

When all of it comes in I will put it together and post a video.

My plan is to use a small bike pump to add air pressure to the lower bottome tank via a small air valve I plan to install.  If water comes out of the top of the capillary tubing and not the top of the open air pipe that should prove that it works.  If it does I will order an upper trough that will allow the water to fall back down the open air pipe.

cool. i can't wait to see it!
just might work!

keep up the good work.

peace

Azorus

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Re: Capillary Energy Source
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2009, 09:20:35 PM »
ordered pipes and capillary tubing today, says it has a 2-4 week delivery time...

Azorus

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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »
Have the acrylic tubes, waiting for capillary tubing, which should be in the next 3-4 days.  The lower water tank is almost complete it is pending the arrival of the capillary tubing to be installed in the acrylic tubing.

Low-Q

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2009, 12:34:55 PM »
Maybe it is already mentioned, but if the capillar effect is forcing the water to a higher level, you don't need air pressure to force the water to exit the capillar. Use instead another water tank that has a higher water level and connect those two tanks together with a tube at the bottom so the pressure from the higher waterlevel will help the already raised water inside the capillar to exit the capillar and onto the higher water tank again. The lower watertank is sealed so the pressure from the higher watertank must exit the capillar. A very efficient capillar is a 1cm diameter tube filled with cotton threads (Like a wick). Add a little extra pressure, and the wick will overflow and poor the water into the higher water tank.

Then you have a circuit that "last forever"...maybe it isn't that easy, but it's allmost free to try.

Vidar

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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2009, 12:42:41 PM »
I bought capillary tubing Round Borosilicate glass Part no.  CV0508 ID 0.05mm (50 microns) OD 0.08mm (80 microns) Length 100mm Sold per pack, each pack contains 100 pieces

Azorus

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2010, 03:50:57 PM »
turns out the tubes where sent with wrong address, so they will be resent tomorrow and hopefully make it by monday.