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Mannix

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2009, 12:08:06 AM »
That is so ridiculously simple it couldn't possibly work ...or  could it?

A starter motor of pulses to excite the Whatever then free run on its own stuff...no, it couldn't  be so because if it was, it has been under our noses the whole time HA!

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2009, 12:19:06 AM »
David says he will fight the giant. His whole famn damily says 'No Way! You ain't squat!' King Saul says 'Here. Put on all this armor and weaponary. It is way too much. David goes to the battle field with 5 stones and a sling. It only takes 1 stone. Keep it simple or kingdoms fall....

Ha,Ha,Ha..... this is going to be fun.

That is so ridiculously simple it couldn't possibly work ...or  could it?

A starter motor of pulses to excite the Whatever then free run on its own stuff...no, it couldn't  be so because if it was, it has been under our noses the whole time HA!

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2009, 12:55:01 AM »
hi everyone good day!

history repeat itself.

its a fake revelation!!!

they are just looking for some new info to tackle with ok, nothings new, everything is repeating, better to do your own.  ;D

even them,  they don't have real one!!!! hahahahahahaha

though not like sm design, at least mine is working.  8)

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2009, 01:51:15 AM »
Show us what you did if its not too much trouble.

Otto is showing what he did

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2009, 02:34:42 AM »
hi everyone good day!

history repeat itself.

its a fake revelation!!!

they are just looking for some new info to tackle with ok, nothings new, everything is repeating, better to do your own.  ;D

even them,  they don't have real one!!!! hahahahahahaha

though not like sm design, at least mine is working.  8)

I just read a few of your posts ..most of what you say makes good sense..coming over here and yapping does not.. please explain

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2009, 06:39:29 AM »
I'm being serious when I ask this?

What's the "new" revelation here?

All I see is some circuit attempts at a switching methodology and some talk of hitting the resonance of the transformer and talk of collapses and frequencies.

I guess it doesn't take much to excite you guys.

Yes you can do a lot with resonance and coils and switching,  and it can all be exciting. I get excited too when I light up my Tesla coil, or resonate my ignition coil, but I hope we're clear on one thing, this is not a TPU!   

Let's not pervert what SM discovered just because we can't achieve it !

EM

P.S.  And for Gods sake,  do some reading on switching techniques, if you insist on playing with this stuff (it might save you from blowing MOSFETS left and right): 
http://www.dei.unipd.it/~pel/Articoli/1998/Ias/Ias98_2.PDF
http://www.iisb.fraunhofer.de/de/arb_geb/pub_les/PCIM_China_2007_Mao.pdf
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/737/   
http://www.advancedenergyconversion.com/pdfs/pesc97.pdf
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7046049/claims.html

I have a lot of respect for otto and for Mannix and for anybody who experiments and shows their results, so if you perceive my annoyance know that it is meant to keep in check these naive sentiments that we have discovered the "secret".  This thread is mislabeled for sure.  Another thing, I will not give up until I find and PROVE that I found the secret.  Yes, this is a jungle, so get a good machete and clear your path....
« Last Edit: October 10, 2009, 07:21:51 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2009, 07:02:35 AM »
well guys atleast i can say i will post all my discoverys here and won't hold back and talk about how i built the best rig and stick in your face and spam the whole forum saying quit messing with tpu and stuff its all in the tesla blah, blah ,blah...
sorry. to much to drink i think...
i'll post a schematic before i post my ego

out, robbie

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2009, 07:36:17 AM »
Give this a go EM!

Consider the possibility that may be more important than it looks

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2009, 08:26:01 AM »
How to achieve the oscillatory, ringing feedback:
When the fet turns on the magnetic field appears on the bias line.
Then the field appears in the red control,
then the field appears in the blue control.
The 2 control coils are bifilar and wound like a Telsa bifilar pancake.
So the bias gets squeezed by the first control then the secondary squeezes it again.
The collector is biased with the initial field and then echoes the shockwave to the gate in parallel with the incoming pulse.
The control coils go all the way around the ring.
The collector coil is stranded lamp cord. The bifilar control coil is solid 22awg speaker cord. The diameter is 4".
Schematic included. Starting frequency is 4khz. Ending frequency is 1.6MGHZ.

Watch the video and see the effect take hold and continue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms

This set up is stable. The results happen every time at about 20 seconds.
It is a good time to be alive.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2009, 01:13:56 PM »
I see all those TC on youtube and every discharge is connected with secondary. What if there is a way to make discharge free running in air ? is that the answer ?

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2009, 02:38:38 PM »
How to achieve the oscillatory, ringing feedback:
When the fet turns on the magnetic field appears on the bias line.
Then the field appears in the red control,
then the field appears in the blue control.
The 2 control coils are bifilar and wound like a Telsa bifilar pancake.
So the bias gets squeezed by the first control then the secondary squeezes it again.
The collector is biased with the initial field and then echoes the shockwave to the gate in parallel with the incoming pulse.
The control coils go all the way around the ring.
The collector coil is stranded lamp cord. The bifilar control coil is solid 22awg speaker cord. The diameter is 4".
Schematic included. Starting frequency is 4khz. Ending frequency is 1.6MGHZ.

Watch the video and see the effect take hold and continue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms

This set up is stable. The results happen every time at about 20 seconds.
It is a good time to be alive.

--giantkiller.

Awesome!  Thank you for making the video, it really gets the concept across!  Keep up the good work!!!

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2009, 04:11:58 PM »
Yes, this is a jungle, so get a good machete and clear your path....

Darkspeed is hacking through the jungle...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8134.msg204174#msg204174

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2009, 05:27:47 PM »
@otto

It is good you opened this thread. Remember during the ECD days, I had put up a diagram mod of your plan putting the switches on the positive side and trying to explain that pulsing an already full coil at the end is not the same thing as pulsing an empty coil at the beginning. Glad to see you have found this out.

OK, I am putting up a diagram using your "right" diagram as the base to show how this may come together in the FTPU. In a basic form the FTPU is two Tesla Ozone Patents working in tandem via the toroid coil.

@EM

First of all @otto already said his diagram is not complete which is very understandable. Anyways, we are all subject to many forms of negation any time we put something forward. It is part of the deal so no problem. We each bring forth what we can within our own limitations. In my case, I am finding where things go but I will never have the ability to actually calculate component values given my lack of EE. But did that ever stop me from helping. I think not.

Yes there needs to be some voltage regulation since just in the FTPU there are many capacitors. I am in the process of finalizing a 3D diagram of the FTPU that will show you the better relationships between the rings, control coils, toroid, and components. I need a few more days to maximize the new diagram.

As far as resonance goes, this is a given since it is one of the only ways to ensure the lowest power consumption of the total device, while working to produce more juice at the output.

@GK

I have seen this many times in my testing where the waveform suddenly morphs into something else after a short while. I am glad to see you showing this.

@About the diagram

Here you will see a rough vulgarization of what i have been trying to convey for some time now. If you take two of @ottos' "right" diagrams and complete each side with the Tesla positive shorting method, you will get something like shown below. The two power supplies are actually only one power supply and the one lead going to each from the secondary outputs is basically one polarity and another polarity. The lines going back to the transistor bases are simply to show that the system is interdependent. One first side pulses, generates an output that is used to pulse the other side, that generates an output that is used to pulse the first side. There are capacitors in between these as my final FTPU diagram will show but again, I cannot calculate those values. My work is more limited to the actual physical make up of the devices, my own small testings and some logical portrayals.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »
It's as simple as this:  you connect your so called "TPU"  to a power supply, and you automaticaly prove you don't have a TPU, period !

Watch the videos again !!!

EM

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2009, 09:36:14 PM »
@EMD,
Exactly! Next is to connect 2nd and possible 3rd stages for building the energy to a usable power level then feed that back. Just like a stungun.
If I connect it to a battery that makes it a valid TPU? I can do that. This runs on 12v volts now. I have the Bedini type engine now. Add a power battery and a charging battery. Guide the energy to what purpose needs to be done.
The energy as it stands now will only phantom charge a capacitor. You know, high volt reading and can not run anything. Been done too many useless times. It is only a start. But thank you for realizing this as a TPU or close to it. This setup will continue as a basis for added simplicities. After 3 years we all know the next steps. The subject has been raped many times over.
I have given complete instructions for the builds that amount to something.

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2009, 10:06:09 PM by giantkiller »