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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 183535 times)

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2009, 03:59:31 PM »
Great progress indeed Howard!

I am still puzzled with the necessity of the pendulum oscillations to achieve inceased amplitude. Best I can come up with, is that the magnet array might work exceptionally well with the accellerating entry and decellerating exit.
I am still wondering if the array could offer advantage in a horizontal setup with continuous rotation. It would take away the little issue of revering the lever magnet.
Or, is a field created within the array, that can only be taken advantage of once each direction?

Thanks so much, and good luck with your further progress!

J

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Offline spoondini

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2009, 08:57:18 PM »
Cloxxki - I ask myself the same question.  If a permanent magnetic array can accelerate in one direction (with free entry), you should be able to line several up to make a circle (continuous rotation).  Nobody has yet been able to make such because of the inherent conservative nature of magnetism.  In simple terms - the sticky points.

My suspension of disbelief that this can work is because the pendulum action provides the momentum necessary to overcome the sticky point in front of the magnet array.  A continously rotating wheel never get's the momentary gravitational acceleration associated with the YOG.

That being said, the most recent test performed still does not have me 100% convinced we're there.  Although I want to believe Howard has solved the riddle of perpetual motion with a touch of overunity, in reality I'm expecting the device to decelerate slightly with each oscillation.  Just like Jamie Ronor's stators or SMOT devices, it looks good until you try closing the loop.  I play with magnets quite a bit and can make lots of things 'look' like they're going to work until I try to get continous motion.  Howard's design is truly unique with the oscilating pendulum, he just might do it.

Offline Kator01

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2009, 01:15:56 AM »
Hi Howard,

really good progress, congrats.

When I made this comment on the cross-plate I remembered this website here

http://www.leevalley.com/shopping/Instructions.aspx?p=54198

But now it gets even more interesting if you combine an halbach array with the shielding-technique
of Mr. Roney I mentioned in the beginning.

best wishes

Kator01


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2009, 12:51:57 PM »
@ spoondini
Yes, I was able to get two cycles but I had to start over on the bearing design on the lever. The bearing mounted on the wooden lever started to bend and gave me a lot of problems. Since then I have switch to square aluminum tubing for a lever with patio door hinges instead of bearings. The hinges seem to work better and helped with the over turn.

As for the act of orientating the drive magnet. It does not take away any kinetic energy from the YOG. The YOG does not need to stop to turn. Turing a drive magnet on a 10 foot lever is no different then turning a drive magnet on a 60 foot lever. Whereas the 10 footer lifts 15lbs vs the 60 footer lifting 1500lbs. So with a long enough and strong enough lever you can actually lift a car. Therefore the YOG should be able to spare a couple of watts to turn the drive magnet.

@ Broli and Kator01
I will shoot for completely mechanically operated YOG but not for too long. I don’t think it’s wise to sit on this technology, as the world needs it. Thinking about it, every day that passes a life could have been saved.

As for the Halbach array it does make sense to use a stronger array method then buying stronger magnets. The shielding technique will sure need to be reviewed.

The YOG does open up a lot of methods ……….. 


@ Cloxxki and Spoondini,
The continuous rotation vs YOG oscillation debate is a discussion that can be too long for me right now. There are so many factors that come into play between the two.
·   For example when you close the loop with a magnetic array the flux pattern changes vs an arc array. It’s like having one big circle magnet with the spins traveling through the hole.
·   The YOG can also store kinetic energy like a flywheel and factor in potential energy.
·   Rotary devices works better with speed and the YOG works better with leverage.
·   I also believe magnets are like fingerprints and no two are the same.
·   Also the flux concentration with a closed loop seems to me a lot more sensitive vs an arc array. For example I tend to look at flux spins like a wheel. The drive magnet is like one big wheel and the closed loop magnets are like little wheels or bumps. If you drive a car over a bunch of bumps in a circle the car loses speed.
 
So that’s just to start. Maybe later when I clear my plate I'll can come back to this.


@ All
Well, at this point it’s just now a matter of time working out the orientation the harder way “no electricity”.

Thanks for the support!

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2009, 01:16:36 PM »
Cheers on 2 cycles!  Indeed the pendulum vs wheel could be a thread unto itself, but the bottom line is that you are the first I've seen take this approach and your reported results are promising.  Respect your enginuity and drive to get this tested and developed.  Best wishes.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2009, 01:16:36 PM »
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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2009, 03:51:27 PM »
Thanks for your answers Howard.
I am most impressed with what you seem to have accomplished already.
I wish I could walk next door and make my hands dirty to help you out, sweep your floor even if that would help you work better.
All the best, keep the updates coming, and keep safe.

J

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2009, 04:36:53 PM »
Cloxxki,
Thanks for offering to help and for realizing that I’m doing this alone.
The hard part is over now as I’m in the phase now of trying to get as much people to understand as possible.

Cheers
Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2009, 04:39:45 PM »
@All

Here’s my update.

I have now made the decision to put a hold on using the tail vane method to orientate the drive magnet. It’s taking me longer then I have planned. The things that I am running into going this route are lack of access to better materials and better tools.

I know that there are going to be some readers who will have a harder time understanding when I revert back to the use of the servo method.

The full understanding of the ability to scale and its effects is something that one may have to figure out. As my knowledge came from working in the field of the Automation Industry. I will do my best to help those understand.

For now I want to clear up the “step” function of my drive magnet’s position. Before I put up additional videos of the YOG.

You may have notice on my previous video that the drive magnet is offset from the centerline of the lever. The reasoning for that position is to allow for the step in a cycle to take place while also orientating the drive magnet. This function allows for “walking” or “climbing” how every you like to view it.
 
This makes it possible to add on top of the gain kinetic energy. Resulting in the lever getting lower and lower and the weight lifting higher and higher.

One can compare it to traveling up a flight of stairs or a truck bumper jack lifting a car.

It would be great if the magnetic array has a knob where you can turn up the magnetic energy for every cycle pass, but apparently magnets aren’t made that way.

The value of energy from the magnetic array is fixed. Depending on your array set up. So that’s why we need to add the “step” function.

Hopefully in the coming days I will be posting a new video where you can see the YOG in action with a servo.

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k
 

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2009, 05:40:51 PM »
Good luck with the servo method Howard.  I think you made a wise decision to go with a method you are confidant you can make work (perfection is the enemy of the possible).  If you use a servo but can still demonstrate continuous acceleration until load is attached, you will have convinced me the concept works (not sure how much that matters).  Best wishes.  Like cloxxki I also wish I could physically help you as your device shows promise.  Following your updates closely, thanks.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2009, 06:15:49 PM »
Spoondini,

I think you will like this next video then.

Cheers
Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2009, 06:16:53 PM »
@All

Well ……..  I’m done.

Here’s the gain proof video with servo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

The input is about 1.3 Watts for 2 seconds to turn the servo per cycle.
I used a Doc Wattson meter

The circumference that will drive the turbine measured about 343 to 354 Revs/Min. I started at the 10 o’clock position and let it swing one cycle. The tachometer used is an Ametek 1726 and was measured by placing the wheel on the meter up agents the circumference.


Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »
Holy $$$$T.  You've done it Howard!  I see continuous acceleration!

I have never, I mean NEVER seen anybody actually pull off OU in these boards.  Unless you're hiding a motor or electro mags, this is the real deal. 

As you've stated, the servo can be replaced with some engineering tweeking to run completely non-electric.  I'm sure the torque can be increased through some trial/error in the mag arrays.  I think you've done it man.

All bow to our savior Howard!

PS - I think there were some earlier posts on this thread that need a plate of crow served up.......

Offline broli

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2009, 10:17:48 PM »
Nice indeed, you pulled out that servo installation pretty quickly. I bet this will catch some attention, remember to give assistance to replicators and ignore the skeptics.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model / IT WORK'S
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »
Wow Howard
Looks like it works, the more swings the more power, fantastic work  ;D ;D
Are you going to apply for the Overunity prize ? [when it runs itself and produces power]

I wonder if a small-scale version can be built ?
Where are all those people that spent their time on the Mylow Motor,
looks like it's time for another replication

cat

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »
Howard what's your take on putting this system horizontally without the pendulum concept. Surely if there's excess force in one direction it should accelerate horizontally as well unless the pendulum is a secret ingredient. The biggest advantage would be not having to flip the magnet around.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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