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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 179282 times)

Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2009, 09:25:15 AM »
please read below post.

here is the data file on the Chaos Accelerator Pendulum.

Jerry
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 10:05:50 AM by onthecuttingedge2005 »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2009, 09:11:19 PM »
I made a video of the chaos accelerator pendulum, sorry about the quality since I was pointing a video camera at my monitor screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dsVop4tpOY

I will see about making some better quality videos the next time.

the model seems to perpetuates forever on the software. I let it run all night, it doesn't stop.

Jerry


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2009, 10:12:53 PM »
I was studying variances of your model, however I could not get your model to perpetuate.

Hi Jim,
I not surprise the Working Model 2D software wasn’t able to simulate the magnetic array. Thanks for trying.    ;)

Your Chaos Accelerator Pendulum looks neat. It maybe a good classroom exercise for teachers. Other then using a ROMP. Can you post that on a new topic ? I think some teachers may want to ask you some question on it.

I would like to keep this topic of the Yu Oscillating Generator on focus. It absorbs energy from magnets and lifts weights higher that will convert to torque. The gain torque drives a turbine that can produce electricity.

Howard
My latest video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2009, 12:49:50 AM »
Hello WattBuilder,

thank you for this interesting demonstration. I really wonder about some of the members her just talk and talk leading nowhere as one member has already stated.

Now I have one practical question :

You said in your presentation
that both sticks ( upper lever ) have the same weight, but this is just one necessary conditions of two. The other condition is the center of mass of each stick.
Can you please measure the center of mass of your two sticks with the stone and the magnet attached and repeat your experiment ?  Where is this masspoint of each stick located ? For this purpose just take out the sticks and balance each stick on your finger and mark it. I have the feeling that the center of mass of both sticks is not at the same level.

Only if this is the case you can compare the two processes.

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Kator01


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2009, 01:14:25 AM »
Hi WattBuilder,

have you seen this here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agReLN-tGQE&feature=fvw

have a look at all parts of this man- it is important.

Here he demonstrates that it works :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuXm7r8Ybw&feature=channel

Another thing which you can do to strengthen the mag-field of your runner-magnet is to cover the top with iron-sheet thus making it one piece of iron together with the outer two fluxguides. I am looking for a document where is was explained in detail.

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Kator01


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2009, 01:14:25 AM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2009, 03:08:44 AM »
Hi Kator01,
I have made some progress since the demo of the YOG’s one cycle video. The YOG is now modified and the lever too.

I was anticipating this question.

Both sticks are made of PVC pipe found at a local hardware store. They were both cut from the same piece of pipe. Both were weighed down to the 100th of an ounce. The stone and the drive magnet assembly were repeatedly checked, including the screw that holds it.

The masspoint is about 8 inches close to the neck of the stone and drive magnet.

Now remember that there was a gain about 15 inches. If the masspoint was lower it will show the gain less because the lever ratio would be less. For example 7:1 ratio is better than 4:1

One way to get the same effect of the gain in the video is to increase the mass point higher. But as you can see there is no way to increase the length longer past the array of magnets without hitting them.
 
Can you post this over at my main thread? As I would like to keep this topic separate?

I’m gland you like my video. I hope more people can get a chance to see it.

Cheers
Howard
My latest video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2009, 03:09:57 AM »
Hi Kator01,

I’m familiar with shielding magnets. I think there are simpler ways then using a battery though.

As for the flux guide, I’m too not sure? That’s something I will have to look into.

I read somewhere that electrons flow, something like 500 times faster through iron then through air.
The more flux spins interacting with the opposing magnets flux spins, will allow for traction.
The more spins the better.
The iron would allow for more speed and concentration of the electron to flow but where? At what point does the opposing electron from the other meet?

Now one way to look at it is if the flux can go through the flux guide, passing it? Then they are sure to meet?

Another way to look at it is that electrons flow normally greater on the skin of a copper wire. Would the skin separate the electrons from colliding that will allow for traction?

Well, I really need better materials and test equipment. But I will look into it. The answer my just be as simple as just sticking a thin iron sheet over the two extensions and just measure it.  :P

Howard
My latest video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k
« Last Edit: October 15, 2009, 09:39:28 AM by WattBuilder »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2009, 02:43:35 PM »
Hi Kator01,
The iron plate guide across the poles actually worked, it gained about 2 inches over the HJ array.

Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2009, 02:44:50 PM »
Hi All,
This new array set up seems to out perform my previous array by about 6 inches. Its based on repulsive force is greater then attraction force.
I’m going to be switching over to this for future testing until better comes along.

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2009, 02:47:28 PM »

Hi All,

Here is an experiment method to prove the Yu Oscillating Generator achieves overunity.

This method is based on the YOG gaining kinetic energy per cycle as it absorbs the energy from magnets.

The illustration attached shows, cycle end points that starts from “A” to “H”.
Whereas “A” is the start point and “H” is the last “end stop” point.

Start at “A” and face the drive magnet to the array. Then lock it in so it does not turn as it makes a cycle pass.

When the cycle ends simply mark the point. It should be somewhere around “B”.

From there re-orientate the drive magnet to face into the array again and lock it in.   
Release it at point “B” and it should end around point “C”.

Repeating this process until you cycle to “H”.

You should see the mark points get lower and lower and that the YOG gains energy, lifting the weight higher and higher.

The reasoning behind this test is that the release points of the next cycle have an increase of kinetic energy and potential energy from the magnetic array. Therefore it will add on top of each cycle. 

After this experiment one may view that everything else to work out on the YOG is now Negligible. In that it is just now a matter of increasing the scale. Whether you’re working out the method to orientate the drive magnet or working out the load resistance of the turbine. The ability to scale just makes those issues too small to be a problem anymore.

So there you go! You just proved The Yu Oscillating Generator achieves overunity.

Try it and see.  :D

Note: This test method has been confirmed on my test unit.

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2009, 02:51:23 PM »
Howard,
    Nice to see some updates.  Sounds like you're making progress.  Have you had any success with 2 cycles yet using the windvane mechanism previously mentioned?  I'm following your developments with interest.  Continued acceleration through multiple cycles will be the proof your concept will work.  The novelty of mixing a magnetic motor (kind of) with a pendulum is something I've never seen before.  It just might work.

So you're saying that you have confirmed continuous acceleration in 'slow motion'!!!!!  That's awesome.

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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2009, 03:20:13 PM »
Was just thinking (dangerous)...
Before we pop the cork on the champagne bottle and celebrate the first perpetual motion device in the history of mankind, I realized that you are adding energy every time you stop the device and manually turn around the magnets.  Kind of like a SMOT, you have to position the ball each time (adding energy). Although this might seem negligible, you're not gaining that much energy with each oscillation, and the act of turning over the magnet, whether using electric, air resistance, or gravity will create a drag on the unit potentially wiping out the gains.  In short, the experiment you conducted is not conclusive and what you deemed as trivial is now the determining factor as to whether the YOG will achieve OU.

The final proof will be in a self running unit that does not rely on external power or tampering of any kind.  Not yet ready to start throwing any $$'s at the device until we hit the undisputable point of OU.


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2009, 03:26:33 PM »
Was just thinking (dangerous)...
Before we pop the cork on the champagne bottle and celebrate the first perpetual motion device in the history of mankind, I realized that you are adding energy every time you stop the device and manually turn around the magnets.  Kind of like a SMOT, you have to position the ball each time (adding energy). Although this might seem negligible, you're not gaining that much energy with each oscillation, and the act of turning over the magnet, whether using electric, air resistance, or gravity will create a drag on the unit potentially wiping out the gains.  In short, the experiment you conducted is not conclusive and what you deemed as trivial is now the determining factor as to whether the YOG will achieve OU.

The final proof will be in a self running unit that does not rely on external power or tampering of any kind.  Not yet ready to start throwing any $$'s at the device until we hit the undisputable point of OU.

First in history, lol have you been sleeping outside?

Anyway that's the whole point isn't it, to spin the magnet on the rod. The magnet is so far out of the field that you can call any effect on it negligible. So the only thing that remains is to use some of the energy you gained to spin the setup. But even in theory the magnet on the rod is pretty symmetrical so it should technically take no energy at all to spin it. I encourage that the first setup should be completely mechanic to blow any talk of energy input out of the water.

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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2009, 03:41:44 PM »
Broli - I'm also very optimistic about this setup, but by nature I'm a critical thinker and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

BTW - You implied that there are other perpetual motion devices, could you please point me to one that has been undisputably demonstrated (not one where the inventor disappears and we are trying, but unsuccessfully, to replicate).  I know of pendulums which have swung for years, but they will eventually stop.  The Finsrud will run for a couple of months before being reset.  I would love to see a genuine perpetual motion device.


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2009, 03:44:13 PM »
Hi All,
This new array set up seems to out perform my previous array by about 6 inches. Its based on repulsive force is greater then attraction force.
I’m going to be switching over to this for future testing until better comes along.

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

Have you considered using a halbach array and compare that to your current results. It should make the field about two times stronger.

http://www.skytran.net/phpsite/media/inductrack%20halbach%20array.jpg

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