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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 179415 times)

Offline WattBuilder

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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« on: September 14, 2009, 09:19:15 AM »
Hello,
Here is my contribution to the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ6vUS7AvbA

The Yu Oscillating Generator combine with Howard Johnson magnetic track used as an actuator.
The key is not to move in a full rotation but oscillate instead. Here is the video explaining the basics.
You have a counter weighted levered pendulum with a torque circumference.
On top of the lever you have an actuator. I used a H.J. magnetic track as one method.

The lever cannot stop in the middle of the track, but will be forced out. Afterwards a servo will redirect the drive magnetic pole facing into the track.
Pendulum -- Any kinetic and potential energy lost due to any form of resistance. Will be re-entered into the Yu Oscillating Generator “YOG” through the actuator.

My journey of the overunity model has lead to other models with great benefits too.
The device can produce renewable energy on land with wind, on top of ocean waves and even underwater.

Best Regards.
Howard G. Yu
YuEnergy-dot-comm

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 07:15:02 AM »
Here is a simple drawing.


Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 07:52:22 AM »
Hi WattBuilder.

It is nice to make novel devices but I must say if it doesn't work in the deepest darkest regions of space it won't help the world with its energy problems in the distant long run.

as of right now photovoltaic systems are becoming highly advanced and are becoming less expensive dramatically.

more advanced research is being pumped into a very lucrative and hopeful technology that will solve a lot of problems on Earth especially with future cells that trap light in quantum wells and recycles its own photo frequencies up to 99.999% efficiency. with light trap systems it is possible to capture more usable light in a much smaller area and even store excess light for when the sun don't shine.

these systems would work even with body heat and would work at night.

more investing in photovoltaic companies will lower the cost of solar cells and drive the prices down to very affordable levels and increase research.

invest, invest, invest!

Jerry ;)

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 08:59:49 AM »
Hello,
Here is my contribution to the world.
...

I'm afraid the world will be disappointed.
What let you think that the energy your system could provide will be more than this one consumed by the actuators?
The actuators just change the magnetic potential of the moving magnets in the external field, in order to reverse their motion at each cycle. Thus they have to do work, the same energy that could be recover. And in fact, due to losses, it will be less.






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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 10:34:25 AM »
Hi Jerry,

Solar energy sure does have a bright future. “no pun intended”

A fresh push in renewable energy has been long awaited here in the U.S.
With President Obama and Secretary Chu, pumping money into the renewable energy economy. I think we will sure see a lot more technology coming out.

Just recently, I came across a start up company in Michigan. Where they just got grant funding to build a device that would be able to generate electricity without the moving parts of a wind turbine. They claim it can harvest electricity at twice the rate per square meter of a photovoltaic solar panel. They call it Aerovoltaic technology. No blades, no turbine and no noise.

It just goes to show that renewable energy has a viable future just when people thought wind energy has matured.

Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 10:34:25 AM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 11:26:20 AM »
Hi Exnihiloest,

Work is okay…. As long as it produces more energy out then in.

Remember that the YOG has a lever as part of its design. It is lifting a counter weight in it’s lower pendulum. Then weight will swing back down.
You would get a mechanical gain depending on your lever’s ratio.

The force of the lower half is greater then the force of the actuator.
The magnetic ramp/track will drive the lever top thru back and fourth. Making up for any pendulum loss.


I hope that was explain clearly.

Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 06:46:24 PM »
I think Bessler's Wheel is an over rated clock mechanism. nobody can get it to work but my clock works just fine. lol

sorry. I had to.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 10:23:40 AM »
Hi Jim,

I haven’t thought much on the drinking bird, but it’s interesting on how it works with temperature.

I try to keep an open mind on different actuators until tested. But I would like to point out some of the advantages of the magnetic ramp used on the YOG.
1.   The ramp can control the amount of driving force on the lever by using stronger magnets. (example: 5lbs of force)
2.   The ramp length will control the distance of the lever travel. (example: swing from a 10 o’clock to a 2 o’clock position )
3.   The ramp magnets does most of the work without electricity. (example: it will maintain 5lbs of force swing from a 10 o’clock to a 2 o’clock position )

On the video that you posted you can see that I replaced the turbine with another method. During my earlier testing I wasn’t able to get my hands on a low drag turbine. The common ones just had too much resistance turning due the iron core design. So what I did was use the basics of an ironless core Axial Flux Permanent Magnet Generator. If you look at the lower half of the YOG, you will see a half circle. I used the circumference as a dual rotor. The wooden frame was used as a stator holding the coils between the rotors. By doing this I greatly reduce the resistance and drag for the pendulum to swing. Also using Litz wire helped even more by getting rid of the eddy currents.

The point I’m getting at with the turbine is that any overunity device will have to leave room in their design for the load.


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 10:24:40 AM »
Hi Exnihiloest,

Work is okay…. As long as it produces more energy out then in.

Remember that the YOG has a lever as part of its design. It is lifting a counter weight in it’s lower pendulum. Then weight will swing back down.
You would get a mechanical gain depending on your lever’s ratio.

The force of the lower half is greater then the force of the actuator.
The magnetic ramp/track will drive the lever top thru back and fourth. Making up for any pendulum loss.


I hope that was explain clearly.

It explains nothing about the work. Force is not work. Work is force times displacement, it is conserved by a lever.
No calculus, no experiment: it is a profession of faith.




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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 11:02:48 AM »
exnihiloest

Sounds like you made up your mind.
Also reading some of your post. It looks like your going around bashing other people’s hard work.
So I’ll play along with you……. What part of my device troubles you?
Oh and by the way save the smoke screen talk.   
I never said force is work.

Are you sure you have an understanding of how my device works?

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 01:20:29 AM »
Sorry to be a party pooper but this whole project is a non-starter.  The whole mechanism is a lever, and everyone should understand that a lever is not a source of energy.  The Howard Johnson magnet array is simply not going to work.  Howard Johnson is a man who managed to pass away and leave a folklore myth associated with his work.  Nothing he ever did was verified, and it's simply impossible to arrange magnets to produce energy.  Some people will be familiar with the Mylow case.

So rotating a magnet at the end of a lever to try to get energy from an array of magnets that can't give you any energy is a non-starter.

I am not sure what the author means by a "turbine" but my definition of a turbine wouldn't work in any kind of a setup like this either.

Seriously, the sound advice is to forget this and move on.  If you refuse, then I suggest that you give yourself one more year to produce a tangible result, and if you can't, move on.

MileHigh

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 05:48:12 AM »
Or simply put, have you thought of using wind power to increase the efficiency of your oscillating device ?

Hi Jim,
Yes, actually I have a Wind YOG model. The Wind YOG uses a sail as an actuator. The fundamentals of it, works like an Oscillating Wing. It uses basic aerodynamics pitching the sail, swinging it side to side.
I will have a video of it in action hopefully soon. I’m currently working on the permits with the city right now.
Check out my website YuEnergy-dot-comm I have a Humanitarian Disaster Relief YOG Model too.

Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 06:14:07 AM »
The whole mechanism is a lever, and everyone should understand that a lever is not a source of energy.

Hi MileHigh
Well respectfully, it sounds like you don’t understand it and even further off then the other guy (exnihiloest).
I’m not claiming the lever is a source of energy. I mean really are you serious ?
Also the whole mechanism is not a lever. You don’t see the Pendulum ?

The Howard Johnson magnet array is simply not going to work.  Howard Johnson is a man who managed to pass away and leave a folklore myth associated with his work.  Nothing he ever did was verified, and it's simply impossible to arrange magnets to produce energy.

I believe Howard Johnson’s work does have some merit. His work on magnetic vortexes is very fascinating. And that train demonstration going thru a gate seems very real to me.

The YOG does not need to move in a full rotation, it needs an actuator. I have noted in the first post that the HJ tract is one method.
In one aspect the YOG needs a magnetic ramp to drive a lever over a range. If you think about it, any non powered magnetic ramp will due as long as it allows acceleration and low resistance coming in and out of the ramp.
You may want to take a look at some of the videos on YouTube.


So rotating a magnet at the end of a lever to try to get energy from an array of magnets that can't give you any energy is a non-starter.

The drive magnet only rotate 180 degrees and then stops until forced out the other end. This is the only electricity the YOG uses, as Input. 
The ramp’s magnetic array is pushing it through.


Seriously, the sound advice is to forget this and move on.  If you refuse, then I suggest that you give yourself one more year to produce a tangible result, and if you can't, move on.

You know some may view that statement as a threat  :'( Just kidding, your not a party pooper just try not to scare off the girls in the party.   ::)

Howard



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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 06:27:59 AM »
Howard,

No threat, I just don't want you to expend 3000 hours of your time over the next 18 months without any good results.  If you think the magnet array is the key, then your whole giant oscillating pendulum-lever assembly is just an energy-neutral "carrier."  You would be better off using a model train track on a big desk like in the Howard Johnson clip.  What you see in that clip is nothing more than magnetic potential energy being converted into kinetic energy.  It's all about the position where you place the car on the track.  It's your hands that are supplying the energy that eventually becomes the moving car on the track and nothing else.  The magnets are as dead as doornails, all the energy comes from where YOU placed the car.  If you could see that then it could be a done deal.

MileHigh



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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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