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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4320 on: November 18, 2016, 12:04:35 AM »
  Thermonuclear war does not pardon the animals nor anything else... like food supplies, water, and clean air to breath.
  ETs have mentioned that they will not allow a full scale nuclear war to happen. Won't be allowed...

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       War may not need to happen.   After Trump was elected, business at a local S.F. shopping mall has fallen off badly.   50% or more.  NOT kidding.   Up to lunch, today.   Less than 50% right before my eyes.  Most days since the election.
        There's more:
The GrabYourWallet movement is urging Americans to boycott Trump-affiliated businesses.   More than 50 that do business with his family, etc.   Some big ones, too.
       This is going to get serious if it continues.   ISIS is gloating, such that they want to see a civil war in the USA.   I'm not giving those S.O.B.'s the satisfaction.  I'd rather use an exit strategy than get killed in "Civil War II', whatever that is.   Hope it doesn't come.
       But, this thread can take on a more authentic tone if civil strife becomes acute.  Will it?   Suppose other countries decide to boycott us as retaliation against Trump's Election!?!?   If we sanction economic restrictions on others, can it be done to us?   For any reason?   Why or why not?   Can the USA go into a very serious recession if we're boycotted?   Will crazies like N. Korea launch an attack, knowing it amounts to suicide?!?!   They may be crazy and hateful enough to not give a d@mn.
       I DON'T know what's going to happen because everyone has 'free will'.   They can do what they want to.   Hope it doesn't cause people to become desperate from irrational fear.
       The future is anything but certain, given that what's happening nowadays is about like nothing anyone's ever see before.

ADDED NEW INFO:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/investing/mexican-peso-trump-us-election/index.html?iid=EL

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/08/investing/global-markets-stocks-trump-clinton-us-presidential-election/index.html?iid=ELThese new developments don't help, either.Hope these conditions aren't spreading to more countries.   You might want to get your "head for the hills" plan out and review it for worsening cases scenarios.   That goes for everyone, even me.

--Lee

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I tried the last site and it actually loaded and ran as usual.  That's not supposed to happen.  ("These" appended to end of 'Web address.)

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4321 on: November 18, 2016, 09:25:28 AM »
California is not "America",the living conditions and philosophy differs,this is my opinion as foreigner and somebody who has never been in the U.S.A. !
The "barter community" is there well established,the rumors about the currency validation or federal estate bankrupcy not new !
And there are also by someone sezession-interests like in Texas !
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fpolitik%2Fwahl-in-amerika%2Fin-kalifornien-verlangen-viele-nach-dem-calexit-14530560.html&edit-text=

But this will only happen if the F.E.D. will become really illiquid and this only when their bonds will not more become internationally accepted
or changed 1:1 ,only with great discount up to 90% : junk bonds level ! Triple A to Triple E .
Like the japanese bonds market in the beginning from the 90`.
 
No more funds,neither national nor international,are allowed to invest in this papers,no investment degree/grade.
The great "plus" of the U.S.-bond-market: the rating agencies are mostly U.S.-american:
the own estate note/rating is "officially" ever the best,also when the estate will become bankrupt,then this will become a AAA-position bankrupt ! From "financial pseudo-heaven" to "finance hell"reality !
Values and prices of " credit systems "can fall really fast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal

                                                  Donald Trump is a "chapter11"-child ! His vita is based by this paragraph content !

Like here in Europe with the EZB ! Many Euro-Bonds,no money ! Bonds/credit=paper in the purse= no money   money=coins/material value
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Ffinanzen%2Fanleihen-zinsen%2Fder-anleihencrash-von-1994-koennte-sich-so-aehnlich-wiederholen-14532766.html&edit-text=

 Only then the US.A. will get a new face ! And an another rule in future ! Smaller and calmer. As regional great confederation !

                 After east-block U.S.S.R. now the west-block U.S.A.,both only more important cause the atomic weapon arsenal

                                                   
                                   P.R. China and his Tiger-estates have now reached the global top position
                                   China included the sino-leaded economies Taiwan,Malaysia,Singapore,Thailand,Indonesia
                                   and hard/soft ware delivery https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTrans-Eurasia-Express&edit-text=

                                           but uninterestant from block-free position view,only a remark

Sincerely
              OCWL

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4322 on: November 19, 2016, 01:45:23 AM »
  Thermonuclear war does not pardon the animals nor anything else... like food supplies, water, and clean air to breath.
  ETs have mentioned that they will not allow a full scale nuclear war to happen. Won't be allowed... of course, there are other sources of this kind of contamination, such as is still happening big time, in Japan, etz... Where two saucer were videoed flying over the reactors.  They are letting the boys play with their toys, for now, to learn their lesson.  Sad, but many more new reactors are still being built, in many places all over the world.  Will we ever learn...

I'll start with this below...
https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=3b8h1v1k08qms#3498123149
(More videos at right side of TV screen,)

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/world-ufo-day-alien-girl-secret-apollo-20-mission-1454928
(My opinion, as relayed from the opinions of individual(s) I know and communicate with...is that Netflicks---at least---has a large number od videos that can be viewed for a subscription fee.   YouTube is right behind that for free at your public library.)

Lastly...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xenkCgf2860
       (80-90 Alien races in, on or around the Earth.   More videos on right side of TV screen.   The narrator sounds like he's a patched-together, computer generated voice over actor from Great Britain.)

I might be able to give more info. if a direct question is asked as a Overunity comment.   I also have a security clearance, so I have more info, but I'm not always free with it.   I'll say what I can.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4323 on: November 20, 2016, 11:00:11 PM »
I might be able to give more info. if a direct question is asked as a Overunity comment.   I also have a security clearance, so I have more info, but I'm not always free with it.   I'll say what I can.

--Lee
       The ET s' may not be able to stop these "'critters'...

https://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/ReptilianAgenda.php

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles110.htm

       I think certain New Age (???) pundits claim the Reptoids will actually succeed in exterminating Humanity from Earth.   Alledgely, it will have been their aim to wipe this planet's life out all along.   Supposedly, it's the way they think, anyway.   The heaviest karma possible awaits them for being so judgmental that Humanity is equal to beef cattle or possibly 'sheepeoples'.
       If so, they're the biggest S.O.B.'s in the Galaxy, IMO.   Even though they're not necessarily mammal-based to think like civilized entities, of any kind possible.

Lee--
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       I'm not surprised that no one's replying to these last 2 posted replies, considering the subject matter.   There's more to it than that, but I can't exactly relay it to the reader in understandable terms---merely take my word for it, that's all.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4324 on: November 21, 2016, 12:36:11 AM »
  It's a big cosmos, with lots of different humanoid ET life forms out there, as well as here on Earth. They are in the oceans, deep in the earth, in the north and south poles, etz... And walking around, with us, as well.
  They are not all reptilians.  Nor all material flesh and bones, either. Their ships can appear and disappear right before your eyes. They don't use nor need fuel propellents, nor does it take them light years to go from point A to point B. They are there, then they are here. Nor do they even need a ship to do so. But, their ships can also go slow, low, and let us see them, while they check us out as well. Evaluating our reactions, and our readiness for open contact.
 
   I'm very interested, as well as excited about what is coming concerning ETs.
   
   Yes, they know much more about free energy, anti-gravity, and space travel, than we do.
We are being already surrounded by them in our skies, at least the ones that we can see.
 Thousands of different forms of space crafts, as well.
    They know about the production of food without the agro process involved. And producing most any thing instantly out of thin air,  instant materializations, instant communications, telepathy, etz,  Almost like magic to our way or seeing it, and many other things that they could help us with, IF we allow it. When shit hits the fan... or before, or even after, to those that may make it that far.
 
   The ancient Mayan culture disappeared without leaving a trace. Thousands of them,  no graves no bones, just gone.

   No matter how much water, food, supplies, or guns that you stock up on.  That's the first things that will be taken from you, by those that are still alive, and hungry, etz...  While you're sleeping with your bellies full. 
   Head for the hills...   But don't forget to pay your taxes, then run like hell, to nowhere.
   How long do the effects of radiation last???  How long?

   We better hope that they will give us a hand or two when the time comes, or we'll be like babes left out in the fields, for the wolfs, otherwise.  Paper money will make for good toilet paper... especially if the internet goes down, also.
   So, what can we really do about it???
   I've already done it, and I'm as ready for it as I'll ever be.

   big m: Is there something that you'd like to share with us?  By all means, ... please do so.
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4325 on: November 21, 2016, 01:29:59 PM »


The U.S. Geological Survey announced this week that they have determined that an area of west Texas known as the Wolfcamp shale of the Midland Basin, Permian Basin Province, contains 20 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 16 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas.. This would make it the largest oil and gas field in the United States, three times larger than the Bakken Shale area of North Dakota which has produced huge amounts of oil and gas in recent years and contributed the the United States becoming the largest producer of oil and gas in the world.

https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-estimates-20-billion-barrels-oil-texas-wolfcamp-shale-formation

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4326 on: November 21, 2016, 03:38:57 PM »
  Not to mention what reserves are found in Alaska, which are even bigger yet.
  So, let just keep it up until we can't breath any longer, like China has done. Or where I was born, in Venezuela, with the biggest fresh water lake in the world, that drains to the ocean. 4th largest oil producer in the world. Now, after all the drilling rigs there in Maracaibo, lake Maracaibo is now green and smells like rotten eggs. And the people there are getting sick, and are being paid by the nationalized oil companies to move away from there, among other gross situations that the government has caused. And where the people are starving, and have to go to Columbia to buy food. What country will be next? 
  The irony is that now in the U.S, even any fireplaces will also be outlawed, as well as any wood stoves.
Seems a bit lopsided to me.  Are they trying to control us in that way as well?

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4327 on: November 22, 2016, 10:18:14 PM »

https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-estimates-20-billion-barrels-oil-texas-wolfcamp-shale-formation
       If President Elect Trump wants America to become self-sufficient in oil and gas, that's a  step in the right direction.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4328 on: November 24, 2016, 06:00:10 AM »
   That's fine if we want to keep burning things up, for now, but there are better and cleaner ways to go towards self sufficiency.
   

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4329 on: November 25, 2016, 02:49:21 PM »
  This last Hurricane OTTO just passed Costa Rica, fortunately I was not affected, as I live on the Pacific side of the country.
  However, the eastern coastline, as well as the northern part of the country did not fare so well. It was the worst disaster seen in this country, as well as in Panama, Nicaragua,  with total 4 countries seriously affected.

   So, in a matter of just a few hours of rain and strong wind, your whole life can be changed. No matter how well you prepare for it.
   
   I am well, as where I live is a special place, not affected by the 7 point earthquake that happened yesterday, either. 
   No volcanoes near by, either.
   That is why I'm here, for the last 33 years, in this particular location, protected from most mayor Earth changes, and catastrophies. Where food can be grown year-round, and with plenty of fresh water, as well.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4330 on: November 25, 2016, 10:39:54 PM »
       If President Elect Trump wants America to become self-sufficient in oil and gas, that's a  step in the right direction.

--Lee

http://www.keelynet.com/news/112516i.html

20 Billion barrels oil "reserves" dividing with 8(not 10) : 2,5 Billion barrels recoverable oil
1 ton ~ 6 barrels                                                       400 Million ton    recoverable oil

+ gas et cet.

comparing with the article numbers:
  total Russia(Arctic,Sibiria) recoverable oil estimation    29 Billion ton

Venezuela: President Maduro seems to not have trouble with his politics and voters :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FDas-Volk-hungert-der-Praesident-tanzt-Salsa-article19184011.html&edit-text=

                    "Massimo Lider-Rodeo": also in Venezuela ? Um fim muito duro ! Ma !
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fgeschichte%2Farticle135700697%2FNur-wenige-Diktatoren-enden-so-wie-Ceausescu.html&edit-text=

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4331 on: November 26, 2016, 01:20:25 PM »
                   Bye-Bye "Maximo Lider" cubano (not galactic but galicic/ESP)
 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Fausland%2Fcastro-171.html&edit-text=

 Maduro, un pouco duro : tik-tak.tik-tak  ,life-watch count-down  8) de ex-provincia romana "Galaecia"

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4332 on: December 01, 2016, 04:04:09 AM »
   That's fine if we want to keep burning things up, for now, but there are better and cleaner ways to go towards self sufficiency.
       Sure, I agree.   He may or may not know something everyone else doesn't.   Be that as it may, the situation on the Pipeline route through the Plains States is getting serious.   The Native Americans there are getting more and more support from outside interests.   They'll defend their land to the death.   They have nothing without the land.   Death may the only way out for them.
       I'm Native American and I know why they think this way.   I'm related to them.   This could get ugly.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4333 on: December 01, 2016, 01:23:55 PM »
       Sure, I agree.   He may or may not know something everyone else doesn't.   Be that as it may, the situation on the Pipeline route through the Plains States is getting serious.   The Native Americans there are getting more and more support from outside interests.   They'll defend their land to the death.   They have nothing without the land.   Death may the only way out for them.
       I'm Native American and I know why they think this way.   I'm related to them.   This could get ugly.

--Lee

They are "native Americans": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
                                          A native American is never europide ! And have their own territorium!
                                                 Mental blood-brother relationship,probably !

                                              The others : "Made in - ex-colonial - U.S.A."
 And now,eventually with an anglo(GB)-saxonial(DE) ancients President ,with an East-Europe-born wife (actually)!


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4334 on: December 01, 2016, 09:34:34 PM »

The U.S. Geological Survey announced this week that they have determined that an area of west Texas known as the Wolfcamp shale of the Midland Basin, Permian Basin Province, contains 20 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 16 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas.. This would make it the largest oil and gas field in the United States, three times larger than the Bakken Shale area of North Dakota which has produced huge amounts of oil and gas in recent years and contributed the the United States becoming the largest producer of oil and gas in the world.

https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-estimates-20-billion-barrels-oil-texas-wolfcamp-shale-formation

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=14431

http://www.kpmg.com/FR/fr/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/Shale-gas-global-m-and-a-trends.pdf

The international OPEC and U.S. oil politicians will try to have for the next future the crude oil barrel-price-level between 60 and 70 U.S.$,this is the average break-even level from shale gas to GPL .

http://www.marcellus.psu.edu/resources/PDFs/shalegas_GWPF.pdf

http://graphics.wsj.com/oil-barrel-breakdown/