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SeaMonkey

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3960 on: July 18, 2015, 04:15:19 PM »
Quote from: joel321
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Now how does money BALANCE the balance of life? :P

Money, or more precisely, the money system which the
World is enslaved by today, is the invention of the
Greedy Ones.  They are the ones who believe they are
superior to all others;  who are more deserving of wealth
and leisure;  who without empathy or compassion will
step on others as they pursue their wealth.  These are
the same sort of people who are in positions of power
and control in Our World.  Particularly the Western World.

The few Good Rulers who truly care about the People
are ruthlessly assassinated or otherwise "eliminated"
so as not to be an obstacle to U.S. hegemony.

The People, for the most part, are screwed.

Evil is the Root of all Money

Money - The Mother of all Monopolies
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 10:13:11 PM by SeaMonkey »

SeaMonkey

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3961 on: July 19, 2015, 07:04:37 AM »
It is no accident that the situation in The Ukraine bears
and uncanny resemblance to the situation between the
State of Israel and Palestine.  More specifically, the State
of Israel (ever expanding) and the Gaza Strip (ever shrinking.)

The Kiev Regime, installed by Israeli-Americans operating within
the U.S. Department of State, has taken on the ruthless
characteristics of the State of Israel;  even to the extent that
the U.S. supports its military atrocities against the peoples of
the Donbass.  Novorossiya, the Donbass, the struggling Republics
of Donetsk and Lugansk, have been reduced to the same plight
as the Peoples of Gaza.

Why have the Israeli-Americans in the U.S. Department of State
orchestrated such a fiasco in The Ukraine?  One reason is to take
some of the heat off the State of Israel.  The State of Israel has
come under heavy condemnation from some of the nations for the
death and destruction it has inflicted upon the largely helpless
People of Gaza.  Now it is possible for Netanyahu to say:  "But
look!  The U.S. sponsored government of Kiev uses the same
sort of tactics in dealing with the "terrorists" of the east!"  "Our
Israeli tactics aren't so bad after all!"

In order to further their plans and agenda they truly do not care
how many are killed;  how much of the infrastructure is destroyed;
how many homes are obliterated;  how many hospitals are bombed
out of existence.  The People of the Donbass are in fact thought to
be animals or bugs in the same fashion as the Israelis look at the
Gazans as being animals or bugs.

What Israel is doing in The Ukraine mirrors what Israel is doing in
Gaza.  Cleverly using the resources and the muscle of the U.S. to
make it happen.

The Global Economic Disaster is getting nearer and nearer...

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3962 on: July 19, 2015, 09:56:33 PM »


"...If I can remember, all electrons go towards the protons? = positive wins always."


       Not always.   Take a look:
http://education.jlab.org/qa/particlemass_02.html
       Now:  A fused-together neutron weighs less than the combined mass of the proton or electron added together.
       And it has an effectively neutral charge compared to the electron and proton.   Positive and negative charges cancel to the relative neutrality of both?   I believe neutron stars still shine at all because the stars' core is slowly being compressed into more and more neutrons by the rest of the star above it all the way to the surface.

Does ANY OF THIS matter if the Greek economy is in a free-fall state and the Chinese stock market is--on average---losing value---at least---weekly?
      ISIS is gaining footholds in more moderate Muslim countries with no end in sight, unless they take over just about every moderate Arab state in their part of the world.


       
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The GOOD battling the bad to find a BALANCE of life.

Now how does money BALANCE the balance of life? :P
       The line of discussion immediately above isn't all related to the question posed by this thread.   I'm trying to say on the general topic as I see it, currently.

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SeaMonkey

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3963 on: July 20, 2015, 01:58:36 AM »
The Greek Plot.

We shall soon see how the plot thickens.

joel321

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3964 on: July 20, 2015, 06:04:04 AM »
Hey SeaMonkey it is 100% empirical 100% truth that Hollywood is just a way to manipulate the people. Now once we start to do some “science” on the way they handle the way they operate, is when one start to see NON mathematical equations and NON scientific evidence that would BENEFIT this world BUT only they MANIPULATE science/nature to make money which to me = corruption to the highest degree and that cannot continue for infinity since for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction. What GREED does does not equate to math/logic/positive it just equals, fuck you I’ll take your money.

The common people need to start doing some scientific research on how the government works in order to find the truth! I personally believe that they don't do it to kill the world but they just do it because humans are social animals that can easily be persuaded. So these GREEDY people are easily persuaded by GREED and CANNOT see the future of getting bit by a snake venom!

We need to find a way to find TRUTH through the media like this


http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/20/tonight-on-ac360-the-extraordinary-cost-of-getting-sick-in-america/

This is not something new, it is just that most of it is somehow not show on TV (I wonder why?) but it is true.

The same applies to medicine = big pharma! You think they are out to save you from dying? The cure is there based on the billions of years learned from mother nature...but you ncannot be cured for FREEE if you don't have the bloated money to pay back the all mighty GOD medical savior!

Please tell me what kind of scientists do research regathering this facts going deep in how the money really works? I think is time that people realize the ignorance of civilization don't you think?

What ever happened to sarkitchen?

joel321

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3965 on: July 20, 2015, 06:15:53 AM »
For those whom can't handle deep stuff, here is the following:

https://youtu.be/jtqpuYvOfHY

https://youtu.be/1_H8z9YdLGM

https://youtu.be/HaWc6TiJsQ8

https://youtu.be/BXdNYXMQoy8

https://youtu.be/pWdKf3MneyI

Now after that, lets get back to reality :P

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3966 on: July 27, 2015, 04:38:09 PM »
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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3967 on: July 27, 2015, 04:42:15 PM »
From a post by a reader in the link above:


Mr. Anderson has taken an important step forward in leading Interface Corporation towards becoming ecologically neutral. By that phrase, ecologically neutral, I mean taking nothing from and adding nothing to the environment. This concept has become a popular one in Europe beginning in Sweden, in the form of The Natural Step, but has been much more slowly adopted in the United States. Those who are interested in understanding the processes by which a company can pursue improved environmental performance will find many helpful examples in Mid-Course Correction.What if you don't care about your company's impact on the environment? Mr. Anderson makes a powerful argument based on his experiences at Interface that you should. First, it is much cheaper to produce goods and services if you use less materials and waste less. This means higher profits. Do you care about profits? Second, the pursuit of sustainability attracts many new customers and better supplier relationships. That also means higher profits. Third, people feel better about themselves. Do you like to feel better about yourself? Fourth, perhaps you should rethink your position about the environment. Even if we have enough for now, if we waste it, we are robbing our own descendents at some point of a good quality life. Mr. Anderson describes many cases of where despoilage of nature from overuse has been very expensive and undesirable by anyone's standard.He also cites many of the leading books on the benefits of an ecologically sustainable business world. In fact, this movement will become a disruptive technology by making those who waste unable to compete with those who do not.

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3968 on: July 27, 2015, 04:48:40 PM »
Other comments from the video  I watched on public tv:


Businesses exist to keep the customer happy.


You vote with your dollars.


Your dollars speak.

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3969 on: July 27, 2015, 04:51:48 PM »
Another company thats doing it is Herman Miller:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Miller_(manufacturer)


Herman Miller has engaged in a number of initiatives to promote sustainability, and many of them have had cost-saving implications for the company. The company has developed a technique of mixing sawdust with chicken manure to producetopsoil. The company also uses a database to track every chemical in each product used by the company, in order to eliminate harmful chemicals from their products. Management of the company has expressed concerns about global warming, and the company was using 27% renewable energy as of 2007. The company also issues a sustainability report.[8]
Herman Miller's driving sustainability initiatives is its "Perfect Vision" goal. This is a broad initiative that sets significant targets for the year 2020. These targets include zero landfill, zero hazardous waste generation, zero air emissions (VOC), zero process water use, 100 percent green electrical energy use, company buildings constructed to a minimum LEED Silver certification, and 100 percent of sales from DfE-approved products.[9]
Many of Herman Miller's products are designed to be ecologically sound, and many are good examples of ecodesigntechniques for achieving sustainability include saving materials, energy efficient manufacturing, recycled content, andrecyclable content, including design for disassembly. The design process also utilizes life cycle assessment.
Herman Miller helped fund the start of the United States Green Building Council, and hired architect William McDonough + Partners to design a factory incorporating green design principles.[10] The building is known as the Greenhouse and is an example of green building. The building won the following awards:AIA Committee on the Environment Top Ten Environmental Buildings, 1997
Business Week/Architectural Record Good Design Is Good Business Award, 1997
AIA Central Virginia Honor Award, 1998
International Development Research Council

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3970 on: July 27, 2015, 04:59:04 PM »

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3971 on: July 31, 2015, 09:39:49 PM »
"Other comments from the video  I watched on public tv:

Businesses exist to keep the customer happy.
You vote with your dollars.
Your dollars speak."

Hey, triffid and all others reading this...
       This was just in to the news media as of the posted time of this post:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/31/emergency-measures-fail-to-halt-chinas-stock-market-nosedive

Okay..........
       I don't think it's going to go well for the Chinese 'from here on out', as it can sometimes be put.   The whole world is beginning to feel the economic repercussions of these goings-on in the Chinese economy and stock market.

So I started this thread several years ago?   I was---then and now---allowing these greedy schmucks sink in a flood of worthless money from their economy.   It's just that the whole world's economies are interlinked and prone to wholesale deflation as a depression is looming---as it is, now.
       I'm not giving the Chinese anything positive for what non-existent altruistic feelings they probably never had.   The Communists can starve, and may just even do that in the future.

Good riddance,   Nobody needs them; even they don't need themselves.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3972 on: August 01, 2015, 05:05:18 AM »
@thebigm
 
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I'm not giving the Chinese anything positive for what non-existent altruistic feelings they probably never had.   The Communists can starve, and may just even do that in the future.[/font]Good riddance,   Nobody needs them; even they don't need themselves.


Wow, that may be the most fucking ignorant statement I have ever actually heard... let them starve?. Thankfully we have democratic governments made of people much smarter than you which respect basic human rights to protect us from people like you because you my friend are a mental case.


You are everything that is wrong with this world, not corporations, not governments, not democracy nor communism, not consumerism. When you lose compassion, when you lose consideration for others then you are nothing more than an animal in my opinion because these traits are what defines us as intelligent beings.


I could say many things, things I might regret but know this that if we should ever come face to face and you spew this nonsensical BS it will not end well. We Canadians are very tolerant however we have limitations and you my friend are offside.


AC

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3973 on: August 01, 2015, 11:03:54 PM »
@thebigm
 

Thankfully we have democratic governments made of people much smarter than you which respect basic human rights to protect us from people like you because you my friend are a mental case.


You are everything that is wrong with this world, not corporations, not governments, not democracy nor communism, not consumerism. When you lose compassion, when you lose consideration for others then you are nothing more than an animal in my opinion because these traits are what defines us as intelligent beings.


I could say many things, things I might regret but know this that if we should ever come face to face and you spew this nonsensical BS it will not end well. We Canadians are very tolerant however we have limitations and you my friend are offside.


AC
       This is a timed computer, so I'll have to give you a response a piece at a time, but I'm not going to stop until I get to the end of all your strongly worded reply points.
If you want to engage in a sidebar conversation concurrently, that will slow me down, so I'll have to be more brief, and the effect of that may be to possibly be further misunderstood, by you or others.
       Here it is, for starters:
"Wow, that may be the most fucking ignorant statement I have ever actually heard... let them starve?"
       Alright, I admit that was a 'blanket statement.'   What I meant was the Chinese top tier of government.   They're bastards.   Do you have a local weekly newspaper that presents 'counterculture' material  that's also investigative in it's method of reporting?   I have available the Epoch Times in S.F.   They regularly expose the goings on of the Chinese Gov;t's misdeeds in detail.   I wasn't referring to the Chinese peasants because my Mom was related to them from the actually historical Huns.   Was I insulting myself and my Mom from that one point of view only?   No, I don't think so.
        Repeated:   The Chinese upper Party members are worthy of insult and no one else in that allegation above.   Follow me?    Look, I have more to say and I get hot having to defend myself like this...but think of this:   A have Asperger's syndrome and you're lucky not to have it.

Look.      The.      Description.     Of.       Asperger's.       Up.       On.       The.      'Web.       Yourself.


I was born with this condition and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.    Other Members who read this can do the same.   It's a genetic condition I have to live with.   I can be out of line verbally and not just in this Forum.

We all have our problems in life and Asperger's is one with me.

--Lee
 

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #3974 on: August 02, 2015, 08:50:25 PM »
You are everything that is wrong with this world, not corporations, not governments, not democracy nor communism, not consumerism. When you lose compassion, when you lose consideration for others then you are nothing more than an animal in my opinion because these traits are what defines us as intelligent beings.
 Gee  lee i am so glad your all that is bad in the world. ::)
 Wait! you don't through people in prison because they complain or have the wrong religion.
your not playing brinkmanship over a few scraps of land.
your tanks did not crush protesters.
your doctors don't harvest organs for profit form unwilling convicts.
maybe your not such a bad guy. :)
fritznien