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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #751 on: November 18, 2010, 02:50:35 PM »
What follows is a copy of one readers post from the article I posted above.It should helpthose who served in the military get a bigger SS check when they retire.                                                                             If you served in the U.S. Military and served honorably between Jan., 1957 and Dec., 2001, you could receive up to $1200 dollars of credit earnings annually, which can make a substantial difference in your monthly payments. This means ANYONE who served during this time period....not just military retirees. The catch is: You must bring your DD-214 and you MUST ASK for this benefit. SS office will not inform you that u are due this money. So ASK folks.
Hope this helps you out.                             triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #752 on: November 18, 2010, 03:10:39 PM »
        PROBLEM AND SOLUTION to Trillions of $ Debt
        Problem = Through fractional reserve banking money is created out of thin air (doesn't really exist), this money is then borrowed by the Government at Interest (this is the scam). The tax payer is forced to pay back money to the central banks that never existed in the first place WITH INTEREST. Over 100 years of this Scam has produced trillions of dollars of debt even though trillions of dollars didn't even exist 100 years ago. (Dollars or Euros it's still the same scam)
        Solution = Under USA Pres. Lincoln we had DEBT FREE money, The US government created the money the same way the banks do today except the American people didn't owe interest to any other nation / central bank etc... In Fact the Constitution of the USA says that congress is to make the money not central banks or through fractional reserve banking, derivatives etc.. Lincoln was killed, and the globalists killed the debt free money he started. Lincoln’s Debt free money postponed the complete take over of the USA by saving us from outside control via war debts.
        Today the American people do not control the US Dollar at all, only a handful of central banks and the Federal Reserve which is made up of private central bankers. The Fed and the banks through manipulation and fraud have stolen the assets of the American people over the last 100 years in exchange for DEBT they created out of thin air! THIS IS 100% FACT! They make the paper and we exchange our assets and freedoms for this paper and they collect the interest.
        It's time to take our money back, if we don't the same people in control of our money right now plan to force us into a Global Currency which would then give them absolute control over the entire world! After a global currency is setup their will no longer be independent nations, only global tyranny. They will still create the money out of thin air and everyone in the world will OWE them the interest until they own/control everything!
        Every nation in the world needs to create DEBT FREE MONEY and put the people back in control of their future. END THE SCAM, DEMAND DEBT FREE
        MONEY! MAKE THE BANKS BORROW REAL MONEY CREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT, FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE, AT INTEREST.
        If the system is flipped and banks/companies/people have to borrow real money from the Government at interest this will greatly reduce taxes and it eliminates the power of foreign governments and central banks thus ending this outsider control over our nation. Other nations can do the same thing and also have FREEDOM!
        for more information on how to solve the Trillions of Debt
        watch "Money Masters" on YouTube

   

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #753 on: November 18, 2010, 03:22:15 PM »
    It is amazing how we are told over and over to wait until we are 66 and receive full Social Security benefits. Better yet, get 8% more for each year you wait until you are 70. Don't start collecting at 62 even if you are retired drawing antoher pension. Has anyone computed the Present Value of the benefits lost by waiting until you are 70 to get extra benefits. You will have to live until you are approximately 82 to break even which means you have to work for those 8 years (62 to 70) because you still need income. I believe the average life expectancy is still around mid to late 70's. I'm thinking I had 8 extra years to relax when I was still able to enjoy relaxation. I still believe the only GTD income from Social Security is get it NOW; reap what you can today and if you live beyond 82 . . . well at least you can tell your nurse about how you made a wrong decision.

This is a copy of a readers post that I liked  triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #754 on: November 18, 2010, 03:25:52 PM »
My dad took retirement at age 62.He said he had worked enough.He died at age 86.I took retirement at age 58.I have a disability but paid into the system for 39 years.So I earned the right to draw it.Hopefully it will last a long time.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #755 on: November 18, 2010, 03:33:40 PM »
Economic Chrisy's are part of process and no Free Energy or technology can make humans free, this is illusion (for now)

all begins from us :) humans think that the planet earth are under us control and we are rights on it, but actually we all here are guests - we need to understand this ;)

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #756 on: November 18, 2010, 05:33:34 PM »
Cosmo
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but actually we all here are guests - we need to understand this
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I love this place!!
I just want to leave it a little better than I found it!
And I'm glad for that chance!Besides If I really take good care of It ,who knows?, maybe they'll have me back??

How about you ??

Chet


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #757 on: November 18, 2010, 09:43:10 PM »
What follows is a copy of one readers post from the article I posted above.It should helpthose who served in the military get a bigger SS check when they retire.
Sorry to say, there was link to article in the post above.  Can you resend the link?  I did serve between those dates and with an Honorable Discharge.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #758 on: November 18, 2010, 09:55:37 PM »
Economic Chrisy's are part of process and no Free Energy or technology can make humans free, this is illusion (for now)
Yes, I agree.  Too much greed and violently pugnacious men who demand what they desire.  So, you have a point.
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all begins from us :) humans think that the planet earth are under us control and we are rights on it, but actually we all here are guests - we need to understand this ;)
Right, true.  I agree with your point as is. 
Well, as far as it goes.
The trouble is---and I've seen this happen from a distance---that whomever is a "whistleblower" for positive change, will quickly become a target.  The louder the whistle, The.  Bigger.  The.  Target.

Martyrdom will come to whomever thinks differently.  The SW Asian Jihadis want martyrdom;
they're just using a bomb instead of a whistle.

They can be part of The Collapse if they gain strongly against our allies in the Eastern Hemisphere.

--Lee

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #759 on: November 19, 2010, 02:13:40 PM »
The link below displays a disturbing trend.Members of congress grow richer no matter wnat happens to the man in the street.http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Members-of-US-Congress-Get-cnbc-1255923366.html?x=0   read and learn.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #760 on: November 19, 2010, 02:16:42 PM »
More than half of all members of congress are millionaires.One was worth over 300 million.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #761 on: November 19, 2010, 02:28:28 PM »
One reader (of the article above)posted the following comment:    All of the largest companies that are listed in this article, do a tremendous amount of offshoring and outsourcing. At GE, I know some of the folks in India that work for them on contract, they have cut so many Americans from their position and acquired so many India employees, that even the folks in India have complained to me that there are so many of them, and so few Americans, that it can be difficult to obtain clear direction from onshore in the USA or from the few Americans working there in India. Up to 80% of GE's labor is now offshored and outsourced, only about 20% of the American job positions that used to exist still remain - and they would love to get rid of those too if they could do it. That's called an "80/20" policy. 100% of that decision is about money, and the company loves to blow their little trumpet about all the wonderful cost savings - the executives brag about it routinely, and it is frequently on display on power point presentations and other blow-your-own-horn opportunities.
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    Your congressmen, and senators, oh yeah, you better believe they are in love with this, they support it fully. They are not interested in doing anything about it? Good grief, they're trying to help these thing occur, they are IN LOVE with this.


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #762 on: November 19, 2010, 02:38:32 PM »
Another readers postis :How can people with this kind of wealth have any clue about what the people they are supposed to represent need and want? With our current structure of no term limits and pretty much unlimited spending to get elected and then reelected the pool of potential senators and representatives shrinks with every election cycle. To enter the political arena you must have a great deal of personal wealth and then become beholden to special interest groups to pay for television ads, mailings, rallys and all the other dog and pony show events that have become part of our political process. The irony of the whole mess is that the only people who can change the system are the same senators and congressman who are currently manipulating it to help the special interest groups that pull their strings. I'm embarrassed to say that I got snookered into believing that Mr. Obama was really going to try and change Washington. Now that the Republicans have regained some power back they will take the opportunity to deliver some pay back. The congress reminds me more of a schoolyard with kids squabbling about a kick ball game that responsible representatives making decisions about the future of our country.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #763 on: November 19, 2010, 02:47:47 PM »
Another reader has a very negative view of the article that was written and in the interest of seeing both sides here is what he posted:Cynicism sells, and these posts show it. There isn't a lot of context in this article. I'd like to know the ones who have investments in companies that have business before Congress, and if they recuse themselves, and if not, why not? The multi-millionaires were multi-millionaires when they got there, and that's a problem, but this article makes it look like they came poor and got rich. There are only 537 elected federal officials, and the 300 million of us citizens who don't trust them; they are about the last people on earth who can "stuff their pockets" and get away with it. Ask Rangel! The interesting point to me in the article is, "The median wealth of a representative was $765,010, up from $645,503." Well, they make 175,000 a year, and according to these numbers their wealth increased by 120,000. That means they spent 55, 000 this year, the rest went into the bank. Does that seem out of line? I think this article is manipulative in this way.
Get to know your Congressman or woman. Judge for yourself. I have gotten to know my representatives and I believe they are in the political business to do public service, not to bilk the system. RESIST the PROPAGANDA!!!

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #764 on: November 19, 2010, 06:13:48 PM »
More than half of all members of congress are millionaires.One was worth over 300 million.
Their day is coming.  No empire last thousands and thousands of years.  People are born and then die.  For that reason, karma is real to me.  They'll get what they deserve.  Good or bad.

That was both a compliment and a condemnation at the same time.

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