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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #555 on: June 11, 2010, 10:13:08 PM »
My home computer is still tied up with a fake antivirius program called"AV Security Suite".You can google it up to learn more about it.I had to use the library computer to leave this message.triffid
Uh huh.  It's a rogue virus.  The Internet has a lot of suggestions to remove it.  This is just one:

http://www.spyware-experts.com/need-to-remove-av-security-suite/?gclid=CKPWzZrgmKICFSCjiQod-DPcXQ

There are also companies trying to sell their own antiviral package as well.  Commercialism at its best.
Anyone who has an Internet-capable computer should have up-to-date antiviral software, or they're asking for trouble.

On topic:
Greece has occupied mine, and other's, attention for a long time, but Japan has the 2nd biggest economy in the world behind The States.  The issue, thusly:

http://www.ely-co.com/reports/crisis.pdf

Now, there was an American financial commentator on cable Channel 50, in my viewing area, for my particular cable provider, who advocated the American Gov't selling guaranteed long term securities---in very strong demand---to refinance the American debt, since the Euro and other currencies are so weak.  A win-win situation, right?
No.
All we'd be doing is the same as Greece and others by forestalling the inevitable day of reckoning when the bills come due as interest that someone has to legally pay.  Borrowing more isn't the answer.  Cutting spending and costs as a result is just as bad a decision against the public because nobody wants to face that kind of financial privation anywhere in the world.

Here's similar issue:
British stockholders are going to demand that BP pay their dividend on time, even though the Americans want the money set aside for oil spill cleanup costs and lawsuit payouts.  They, the stockholders, depend on the money to pay bills.  About the same as Greece and their welfare state.  See?  Some, or many, people don't want to pay for someone else's problem.

The whole scenario will get out of control when interest rates rise dramatically.  It's coming sooner or later.

And, the Gulf oil spill is still threatening $60 billion in Gulf business as the well continues to gush.  Double-dip recession, anyone?

@triffid
We can trade posts when you fix your computer.

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WilbyInebriated

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #556 on: June 12, 2010, 02:33:52 AM »
that's some nice cherry picking lee, but ad hominem? that's the last bastion of those with no ground to stand on...

Your admission that education, as such, was, in effect, off topic, makes my case that you're violating forum rules.
since you replied to the same post i did (saikron1's) doesn't that also make a case against yourself for violating forum rules?
reply #543 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8010.msg243567#msg243567
you replied to saikron directly after i did... and raised no 'off topic' objection then. ::)

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...china is now becoming richest country in the world... but they still dun have much on technology and majority the ppl there not really educated.
Perfect point to what I was saying.  Many world leaders are holding their countrymen hostage to the their own whims, in spite of what's in the best interest of their countries population's wishes.  This goes for China, as well.  Stupid, greedy Communists!!!

regardless, i gave you three at bats and you struck out everytime with logical fallacies... i will respond to them no more.

X00013

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #557 on: June 13, 2010, 12:49:46 AM »
@ triffid @ all, if you have a virus that locks your windows up or whatever click this link and follow the directions to the "T" http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-security-tool

And then stay off the  sites, hmmm, hell with that , download as much  as you can to test the software  ;D

And or check this vid, we all need tunes while we download, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZBV0VABlQ&annotation_id=annotation_176731&feature=iv

While the music plays, goto http://www.glaryutilities.com/

Download the free shit, and run it, I got tons more, hope this helps!

X00013

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #558 on: June 13, 2010, 12:54:00 AM »
I forgot to say even if its not "security tool" your tryin to remove , the directions are on spot to rid the varments from your pc.

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming... with more telling signs...
« Reply #559 on: June 16, 2010, 02:04:44 AM »
Recent Internet article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37136518/ns/us_news-life/
More states like NV, CA and FL may resort to this tactic.  If they do the right thing and own up to their responsibility to cut costs, their residents will be more than a little unhappy, to make a staggering understatement.
As I said before, "There's no good answer" to this recessionary crisis.
--Lee
There was a TV commentator that considered it likely that the USA can continue with its "recovery", but outside influences may short circuit the improvement process with a foreign double-dip recession.

Another article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65E5K520100615?type=ousivMolt

I agree.  Europe and Japan are vulnerable to weakness in their smaller economies and heavy debt, in some cases.

Then there's the oil spill getting worse every day.  People are becoming angry at "Obama's Katrina".

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #560 on: June 22, 2010, 04:15:32 PM »
My brother managed to remove the fake antivirus program so I'm posting this post from home.
I am looking at investing in the tar sands of canada.There is a tar sand fund.Pays about 8.4% right now.They use steam injection to remove the oil from the sands and have enough reserves to last about 20 more years up in Alberta.No off shore drilling at all and they do work at restoring the land back to its pristine state.I borrowed a dvd from the library called"The tar sands of alberta"
and got sold on investing in this technology.Plus the stocks would be in canadian money so if the dollar went into hyperinflation the loon should not.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #561 on: June 22, 2010, 04:27:54 PM »
I used strips of aluminum foil 12 inches by 4 inches.Folded them in half about 10 times using a book to flatten them into suitable wires to make my solar panels with.I tried tinning them with a 20 watt soldering iron but no luck yet.I had success in melting the 60/40 solder with the 20 watt soldering iron.I think the foil wires can be tinned but with a hotter soldering iron(which I have).I used rubbing alcohol to clean off my fingerprint oils from the foil wires.I did find that my foil wires transmit heat pretty well to my fingers! triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #562 on: June 22, 2010, 04:29:42 PM »
So I'm thinking homemade foil wires could have solar applications?triffid

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #563 on: June 22, 2010, 06:22:20 PM »
So I'm thinking homemade foil wires could have solar applications?triffid
Well, I'd never tried to build my own solar panels, since I've always rented an apartment for the last 40 years or so.

The foil connections would most likely work, but they're aluminum; having a rather low melting point and need to be fairly substantial in dimensions for the strength to be usable on a panel.
I always used extra solder rosin flux for soldering.  Radio Shack sells a 3-4 oz. container (for something like 4-6 bucks)?

The oil sand stocks in Alberta sound okay, but if the economy collapses---and it probably will---the money won't help you put edible food on the table.
As it stands now, I'm starting to quietly stockpile food and water for an emergency situation.  It's the best I can do in this large city with a low income.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #564 on: June 23, 2010, 04:00:29 AM »
if u wanna build panels from cells goto http://www.evergreensolar.com/

trust me

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #565 on: June 23, 2010, 03:57:04 PM »
This guy was on coasttocoastam again last night.He set up a website to teach people about making alcohol for fuel.He is selling a book and workshops but seems to really know what hes talking about.http://www.alcoholcanbeagas.com/
The tar sands dvd were a delight because in 50 years on the subject I had never heard a lot about it and the dvd showed the progress they have made in the last 50 years.I too am stocking up on canned goods since most will last 30 years if need be.Cranberry sauce will ruin a can in a years time(personal experience).As for water if you have to you can get it from a river or stream and boil it for 15 minutes on the stove or campfire.That will kill most germs.Run it through activated charcoal to remove most chemicals.Triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #566 on: June 23, 2010, 07:30:22 PM »
This guy was on coasttocoastam again last night.He set up a website to teach people about making alcohol for fuel.He is selling a book and workshops but seems to really know what hes talking about.http://www.alcoholcanbeagas.com/
Right.  There were plans where I lived in the Southwestern States to utilize salt-resistant plants to make alcohol and/or biodiesel.  Much cheaper and also working land that's hardly useful for anything else.
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The tar sands dvd were a delight because in 50 years on the subject I had never heard a lot about it and the dvd showed the progress they have made in the last 50 years.
Yeah, research was done on the subject.  I imagine patents were granted for unique recovery/treatment processes.  However, there's always the leftover castings.  It looks like a dead ringer for paving asphalt when it cools.  Tons and tons of the stuff laying around.  Manufacturers could use it on roads, I realize.  Why don't they?  Here's a patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=veFTAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
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I too am stocking up on canned goods since most will last 30 years if need be.Cranberry sauce will ruin a can in a years time(personal experience).As for water if you have to you can get it from a river or stream and boil it for 15 minutes on the stove or campfire.
There was a rumor in the Air Force I heard that using Clorox to kill the germs in a 5 gallon water cooler bottle works pretty well.  Just add a capfull to the water in 3-4 gallons of a bottle, shake it for a minute, and then let it sit for an hour or two.  It will still taste bad, but it won't make you sick.  The germs will be dead.
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That will kill most germs.Run it through activated charcoal to remove most chemicals.Triffid
That would work, but it might be expensive?  Charcoal is common, but is leftover fire charcoal good enough in quality to purify water?

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #568 on: June 24, 2010, 02:18:08 AM »
Mark my words, buy land late 2010, get out of the city your in.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #569 on: June 24, 2010, 02:24:50 AM »